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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 13 Sep 2007 12:22:17 AM
Object: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club
Notice the omission of the ACLU from this article.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091203.html
Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as
Gay Club
FARMINGTON, September 12, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Thomas More
Law Center, a national public interest law firm today announced that
United States District Judge Victoria A. Roberts has entered a
permanent injunction granting equal rights to a Bible club and its
members at Farmington High School in Farmington, Michigan.
The Law Center represents ALIVE, a voluntary student Bible club, its
president and co-founder, Aaron Grider, and his parents. In 2006,
Grider had requested that ALIVE be recognized by the school as a
noncurriculum-related student group and receive the same treatment and
benefits that other noncurriculum-related student groups receive at
Farmington High School. In the past, Farmington High School has
recognized several noncurriculum-related student groups, including the
Gay Straight Alliance, R.E.A.C.H. (a diversity club), and S.A.D.D.
(Students Against Drunk Driving).
School officials denied Aaron's request. Unlike recognized
noncurriculum-related student clubs, school officials allowed ALIVE to
meet informally before school, but did not allow ALIVE to advertise
over the school's public address system, on the school's bulletin
boards, on the school's website, in the school's yearbook, or over the
school's internal television network, and they did not allow the club
to use the school's photocopying machines.
The Law Center filed a lawsuit in federal court in Detroit, Michigan,
and raised claims that school officials had violated plaintiffs'
rights under the Federal Equal Access Act, the Michigan Equal Access
Act, and the federal constitution.
Before the start of the school year, which began on September 4, 2007,
plaintiffs filed motions seeking a court injunction to ensure that
ALIVE and its members would be treated the same as other noncurriculum-
related groups are treated at Farmington High School. Last week, Judge
Roberts issued a permanent injunction in favor of plaintiffs and
required school officials to provide ALIVE the same benefits,
treatment, and privileges enjoyed by other noncurriculum-related
student clubs.
According to Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the
Thomas More Law Center, "The judge's order should highlight to all
school officials in Michigan and in other states that once a public
high school allows one noncurriculum-related student club to meet on
campus, they cannot discriminate against a Bible club. A Bible club
must be permitted the same rights as other student clubs."
Judge Roberts determined that plaintiffs were likely to succeed on the
merits of their claims under the Federal and Michigan Equal Access
Acts, and, therefore, she did not need to consider the constitutional
claims. Judge Roberts stated that "it appears clear that ALIVE has
been treated differently than other student groups 'on the basis of'
the religious content of their speech."
Judge Roberts also determined that because plaintiffs have been denied
equal access to the school in violation of the Federal Equal Access
Act, based on plaintiffs' religious viewpoint since at least October
2006, that the plaintiffs would be irreparably harmed this school year
without an injunction to ensure that their rights as a club are
protected.
Commented Edward L. White III, trial counsel for the Thomas More Law
Center handling the case: "Judge Roberts's permanent injunction will
protect the rights of ALIVE and its members this school year and
thereafter. These students will be able to enjoy all the benefits
that other noncurriculum-related student clubs enjoy at Farmington
High School."
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Barnes forges postings 15 Sep 2007 08:38:04 AM
In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost cause, it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?

I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you lazy
*****.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 15 Sep 2007 12:57:02 PM
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <q76dnZTkn8t5I3fbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgn...@comcast.com>, Osprey
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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you lazy
*****.

You have never done so.
Show this alleged Message ID and proof.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 16 Sep 2007 04:39:03 PM
In article <Qtqdnbrt-shsgXHbnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you lazy
*****.


You have never done so.

Show this alleged Message ID and proof.

Beg me some more and I will consider it.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 16 Sep 2007 04:55:50 PM
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:160920071439035513%davbarnes@gmail.com...

In article <Qtqdnbrt-shsgXHbnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:140920071653286529%davbarnes@gmail.com...

In article <q76dnZTkn8t5I3fbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgn...@comcast.com>,
Osprey
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like
this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud
was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology
was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with
Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you
_still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark
A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for
comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost
cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you lazy
*****.


You have never done so.

Show this alleged Message ID and proof.


Beg me some more and I will consider it.

It's not begging, it's simply proving you're nothing more than a liar.
Beg for more attention dog.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 16 Sep 2007 05:17:03 PM
In article <bf-dna-xU7X0O3DbnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like
this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud
was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology
was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with
Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you
_still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark
A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for
comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost
cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you lazy
*****.


You have never done so.

Show this alleged Message ID and proof.


Beg me some more and I will consider it.


It's not begging,

Its begging. But you do it well!
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 16 Sep 2007 05:22:16 PM
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <Qtqdnbrt-shsgXHbnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L.
Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do
a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be
taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like
this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud
was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing
Scientology
was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with
Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you
_still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to
Mark
A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for
comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost
cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change
the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing
it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you
lazy
*****.


You have never done so.

Show this alleged Message ID and proof.


Beg me some more and I will consider it.


It's not begging,


Its begging. But you do it well!

You're the one crying for my attention.
As your comrades have stated before, you must prove your claims and since
you can't, you admit you lied.
This has been stated by your own fellow liberal comrades.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Barnes admits he can't provide proof for his claims - UNDENIABLE PROOF 16 Sep 2007 06:40:55 PM
In article <M92dnTbgi7IGMXDbnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <bf-dna-xU7X0O3DbnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <Qtqdnbrt-shsgXHbnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1189836848.160786.220690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:35 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <DNadnZROEaknvXbbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtn...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <q76dnZTkn8t5I3fbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgn...@comcast.com>,
Osprey
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L.
Ron
Hubbard:

"I

met
the man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do
a
sobriety
test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be
taking
medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like
this,

without

actually knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud
was a
malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing
Scientology
was
to

dupe

stupid people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with
Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you
_still_
not
learned to read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to
Mark
A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for
comprehension,

you'd

embarrass yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost
cause,
it was
just
a matter of my reading it too quickly.


<snip>


So, you're going to keep snipping ...


That's right...now you're catching on.


I've played the fool long enough.


<Snip>


Just a note to other readers to beware.


Whiner, whine whine. Note how Osprey continues to try to change
the
subject now that I posted the proof of his reprimand and alike.-


Where is this posting at?
Do you have a Message ID?


I've done it repeatedly and so many time people are sick of seeing
it.
Find it yourself. I have no interest in being your servant, you
lazy
*****.


You have never done so.

Show this alleged Message ID and proof.


Beg me some more and I will consider it.


It's not begging,


Its begging. But you do it well!


You're the one crying for my attention.

As your comrades have stated before, you must prove your claims and since
you can't, you admit you lied.

Prove that claim, chump.
.







User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 07:02:48 PM
In article <NLidnXNaS5HmLHfbnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test?
How do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!



Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


Thankfully, as you're one of a kind..

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Good on you.
If you'd effort yourself to learn to read for comprehension, you'd
embarrass
yourself with somewhat less frequency.


No, it wasn't a matter of reading comprehension lost cause, it was just a
matter of my reading it too quickly.
Now, run along.

Can you get along with anyone at all???

LOL!!!! The irony!!
.

User: "Gwenyth Bennet"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 01:59:11 PM
On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189778298.622649.49760@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test? How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...

There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.

Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?

End or story...go back to your obsessions with someone else.

Why is that you defend John D. Wentzy, anyway? He has a rap sheet
longer than the toilet paper tissue sticking out of yours pants!
(Could it be that you and he are a pair of welfare fraud?)

I did what you can't do.

.
User: "LC"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 02:22:37 PM
"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189796351.463818.212960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message

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What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing

Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to read for comprehension?
Sheesh!

Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...

There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

Technically, Ostrich is still breathing, but it's increasingly obvious he's
braindead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.

Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?

The recourse he _always_ takes with me: he whines, he snips, and he and runs
away.
<snip>
.

User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 04:12:19 PM
"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.



Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?

You are a sad little person.
ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.
So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.
Get a life.


End or story...go back to your obsessions with someone else.


Why is that you defend John D. Wentzy, anyway?

Where did I defend Wentzy?
Well, that killed your argument..one question...now you will whine about
something else.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 06:54:27 PM
In article <v9GdnbeEiqyrZHfbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189796351.463818.212960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.



Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.

ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.

So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.

Get a life.

Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: David Barnes positively busted for lying and forging - proof undeniable. 14 Sep 2007 07:02:25 PM
"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:140920071654270078%davbarnes@gmail.com...

In article <v9GdnbeEiqyrZHfbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189796351.463818.212960@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I
met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.



Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.

ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my
part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.

So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.

Get a life.


Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?

Earlier today..
Barnes made a claim that I was arrested for a DUI.
Upon being asked to support that claim, he quickly avoided it and ran.
later..same date.
Barnes was caught forging a posting...
From: "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same
Benefits as Gay Club
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:03:29 -0400
Message-ID: <q76dnZTkn8t5I3fbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com>
"I've played around with the fool long enough."
Barnes changes it to...
Subject: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same
Benefits as Gay Club
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:53:28 -0700
From: "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.bible
Message-ID: <140920071653286529%davbarnes@gmail.com>

I've played the fool long enough.

.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: David Barnes positively busted for lying and forging - proof undeniable. 14 Sep 2007 09:33:28 PM
In article <P6idnVoylL6IvHbbnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:140920071654270078%davbarnes@gmail.com...

In article <v9GdnbeEiqyrZHfbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I
met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.



Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.

ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my
part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.

So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.

Get a life.


Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?


Earlier today..

I kicked your *****. Nothing new there.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: David Barnes positively busted for lying and forging - proof undeniable. 15 Sep 2007 01:13:43 AM
On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <P6idnVoylL6IvHbbnZ2dnUVZ_tuon...@comcast.com>, Osprey





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<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I
met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.


ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my
part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.


So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.


Get a life.


Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?


Earlier today..


I kicked your *****. Nothing new there.-

Only in your dreams...nothing new there.
Can you explain to the readers why you lied? Was it for attention? Do
you enjoy lying and making things up? Did you not make an accusation
that I was supposably picked up for a DUI? Kind of hard to imagine
that since I don't drink alcohol.
Can you explain why you alter postings?
How about the many other lies you tell, can you explain why you lie?
Shall we go over each and every lie again?
I don't know what the point would be, you will deny it and just say
something stupid like you already proven it and naturally you can't
show where you ever have.
Is this what you would like to do?
.
User: "LC"

Title: Re: David Barnes positively busted for lying and forging - proof undeniable. 15 Sep 2007 03:00:43 PM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <P6idnVoylL6IvHbbnZ2dnUVZ_tuon...@comcast.com>, Osprey

Can you explain to the readers why you lied?

You first, Ostrich:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/8d98ff66e55b08c6?hl=en
LC~ Knows Ostrich doesn't comprehend 'irony'.
"Yes, I know the difference between someone who will not take responsibility
for their actions and makes excuses and somebody who owns up to his/her
mistakes and/or responsibilities."
From: "Osprey" NoNeedtok...@mail.com, obviously the former.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion
Subject: Re: osprey's dilemna
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:08:02 -0400
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.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: David Barnes positively busted for lying and forging - proof undeniable. 15 Sep 2007 08:38:40 AM
In article <1189836823.411497.179630@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, "David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <P6idnVoylL6IvHbbnZ2dnUVZ_tuon...@comcast.com>, Osprey





<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <davbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:


http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I
met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a

malicious

schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.


ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my
part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.


So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.


Get a life.


Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?


Earlier today..


I kicked your *****. Nothing new there.-


Only in your dreams...nothing new there.

No - in reality.
.




User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 14 Sep 2007 08:52:32 PM
In article <140920071654270078%davbarnes@gmail.com>, David W. Barnes
<davbarnes@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <v9GdnbeEiqyrZHfbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwithonet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.

I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.



Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.

ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my part...they
said it only once.
I immediately agreed and I apologized.

So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.

Get a life.


Why do you suppose it is that so many people here see you as only a
liar?

What's that smell again?
.


User: "Gwenyth Bennet"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 15 Sep 2007 10:09:38 AM
On Sep 14, 4:12 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Gwenyth Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.


I admitted to making a mistake and I apologized to Mark A.


Only after enough people badgered you into embarrassment. What other
recourse did you have?


You are a sad little person.
From which HBO movie did you rip that off?
ONE person said something to me, and pointed out an error on my part...they
said it only once.

And you (superficially) apologized *after* you were hammered.

I immediately agreed and I apologized.

So much for your "Only after enough people badgered you" lie.

Get a life.

Well, Mr. Imonusenetallday Heishman: it appears you'll need a new job,
home, and wife, soon enough.


End or story...go back to your obsessions with someone else.


Why is that you defend John D. Wentzy, anyway?


Where did I defend Wentzy?

So you were defending Hubbard, as if he were alive? ;-)

Well, that killed your argument..one question...now you will whine about
something else.

I'll bet you'll whine at me for exercising my First Amendment right,
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Court Forces Michigan High School to Give Bible Club Same Benefits as Gay Club 15 Sep 2007 12:56:03 PM
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On Sep 14, 4:12 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 14, 10:50 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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On Sep 14, 8:16 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"MarkA" <t...@nowhere.com> wrote in message


news:pan.2007.09.14.12.06.07.696254@nowhere.com...


On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:27:27 -0400, Dionisio wrote:


John D. Wentzky wrote:

<parsifa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read this:
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html


ACLU Cases Defending Religious Freedom


Ok, so what year did that occur?


Too drunk to click the link?


LOL! It reminds me of Randi's comment on L. Ron Hubbard: "I
met
the
man twice. Both times, he was drunk."


He was? Did you take a blood alcohol level or do a sobriety
test?
How
do you know he was drunk?
He could be diabetic for all you know, or be taking medication.


Do you just go around and make assumptions like this, without
actually
knowing?


You're blithely unaware of the fact that the fraud was a malicious
schemer whose sole purpose of inventing Scientology was to dupe
stupid
people out of their money! DUH!


What does your incoherent rambling have to do with Marks
assumption?
Answer: Nothing


Good Gawd Ostrich, after all these years, have you _still_ not
learned
to
read for comprehension?


Sheesh!


Unlike you Lost Cause, and your comrades...


There's only difference between Wetshimself and Hubbard: Hubbard's
dead.


I admitted to making a mistake