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"Mr. Young" |
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03 Sep 2006 11:18:51 AM |
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Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/local_news/article/0%2C2545%2CTCP_16736_4963413%2C00.html
ST. LUCIE COUNTY - An appeals court on Friday threw out the child abuse
conviction of a Stuart man who told his 6-year-old son to get a knife and
stab the boy's mother, saying words alone do not amount to abuse.
Edward Munao, 40, was found guilty by a jury in April 2005 of child abuse
and solicitation to commit aggravated battery and Circuit Judge Gary Sweet
sentenced him to five years on each count, to be served back-to-back. The
Fourth District Court of Appeal upheld the solicitation charge, but
acquitted him of abuse, knocking five years off his total sentence.
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 02:12:04 PM |
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"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:adidnS0xlqghnWbZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com...
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
you truly are the biggest moron! you win!
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 01:12:25 PM |
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"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:adidnS0xlqghnWbZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com...
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/local_news/article/0%2C2545%2CTCP_16736_4963413%2C00.html
ST. LUCIE COUNTY - An appeals court on Friday threw out the child abuse
conviction of a Stuart man who told his 6-year-old son to get a knife and
stab the boy's mother, saying words alone do not amount to abuse.
Edward Munao, 40, was found guilty by a jury in April 2005 of child abuse
and solicitation to commit aggravated battery and Circuit Judge Gary Sweet
sentenced him to five years on each count, to be served back-to-back. The
Fourth District Court of Appeal upheld the solicitation charge, but
acquitted him of abuse, knocking five years off his total sentence.
Great! he should be out in a couple of years with good behavior. No wife and
kid to abuse in jail.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 01:11:50 PM |
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Mr. Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process,
Nobody has any such freedom, lunatic.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 04:36:33 PM |
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Mr. Young schrieb:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby
Then, why are these women not arrested for murder? Oh, that's right:
because no babies are being killed.
before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
Too bad your mum didn't have this idea with you.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Spread_Eagle=AE?=" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 12:19:47 PM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
02 Sep 2006 07:57:03 PM |
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"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
news:1157303987.674416.246500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
A troll taking advantage of an idiot. How lovely.
How obvious.
<<Plonk!>>
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 12:41:32 PM |
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"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
news:1157303987.674416.246500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
I guess if you are an abortionist male who likes to hide behind 'a woman's
right to choose' you would like it.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 12:54:16 PM |
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John D.Wentzky schreef:
"Spread Eagle=AE" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
news:1157303987.674416.246500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should h=
ave
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should =
at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
I guess if you are an abortionist male who likes to hide behind 'a woman's
right to choose' you would like it.
This has nothing to do with abortion
This was about a 6 year old, and the mother would probably be between
24 and 46
Now unless we are talking about a mother who is suffering intollerable
and without serious changes of recovery the man was asking the child to
commit a crime.
The fact that some women do not want to give birth to the foetus inside
them,
does not mean other women who actually did give birth should be killed.
I think you people should condider seeing a shrink!
Peter van Velzen
September 2006
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "junegill" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 06:29:39 PM |
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"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
news:1157303987.674416.246500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
To be really fair though, the 'babies' who would kill their mothers should
first have to go through the hours, or even days, of agony that their
mothers endured to give birth to them.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 01:21:59 PM |
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On 3 Sep 2006 10:19:47 -0700, "Spread Eagle®"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> in news message
<1157303987.674416.246500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
Liz #658
If a fetus is biologically independent then you will have no problem
with removing it intact from a woman's body and leaving it to get on
with its busy life. -- Frank O'Dwyer
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 02:47:12 PM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
On 3 Sep 2006 10:19:47 -0700, "Spread Eagle®"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> in news message
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should
have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
The anti-abortion movement styles itself "pro-life" and also argues against
euthanasia. The fact is that in thiry year's time there will be too many old
people for the workers to easily support. There will be a strong economic
pressure for euthansia to prevent grannie's house being swallowed up by her
nursing home bills, and moral justifications will be invented. You may well
find yourself as such a grannie.
If a woman aborts all her children, obviously there will be no grandchildren
trying to collect on the inheritance, so that particular danger won't apply.
If she aborts some and lets the others live, then the action of abortion can
be seen as helping to bring about the sort of climate where euthansasia is
accepted. Don't say you weren't warned, but ultimately it comes down largely
to economics. Marx was right there.
If a fetus is biologically independent then you will have no problem
with removing it intact from a woman's body and leaving it to get on
with its busy life. -- Frank O'Dwyer
And if an adult is biologically independent they will have no problem going
to the African jungle and living on the food the catch. Humans are social
animals, only a few exceptional young adults are able to survive on their
own for any length of time, even in an ideal environment like an African
forest.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
04 Sep 2006 07:00:09 AM |
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:47:12 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in news message
<vpedneK475JixWbZnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
On 3 Sep 2006 10:19:47 -0700, "Spread Eagle®"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> in news message
Mr. Young wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should
have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
The babies of the world tracking down their mothers to abort them. I
like it. I like it a lot. Watch the liberals squeal. But, hey,
turnabout is fair play.
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
The anti-abortion movement styles itself "pro-life" and also argues against
euthanasia. The fact is that in thiry year's time there will be too many old
people for the workers to easily support. There will be a strong economic
pressure for euthansia to prevent grannie's house being swallowed up by her
nursing home bills, and moral justifications will be invented. You may well
find yourself as such a grannie.
Oh, Malcolm. I'm so scared. [makes little shivering motions]
Interesting enough, I favor euthanasia in hopeless cases, such as
Terri Schivo, and I favor assisted suicide for those terminal cases
that choose that route. Wholesale killing of perfectly well persons,
as you suggest, merely because of avarice is, of course, illegal and
should not be promoted by any civilized man.
I already have a living will to take care of circumstances where I am
incapacitated. I trust those whom I have named in that will to do the
best thing, even if the best thing in the situation is my death. This
scenario does not frighten me.
Don't you trust your family? Do you think that they would see your
life as nothing more than an obstacle to possession of your property?
If that is the case, you must not engender a whole lot of love from
those who should be closest to you.
If a woman aborts all her children, obviously there will be no grandchildren
trying to collect on the inheritance, so that particular danger won't apply.
If she aborts some and lets the others live, then the action of abortion can
be seen as helping to bring about the sort of climate where euthansasia is
accepted. Don't say you weren't warned, but ultimately it comes down largely
to economics. Marx was right there.
What can I say Malcolm? Do you have family that are merely nice to
you because you have money? If so, that is sadder than I can express.
If a fetus is biologically independent then you will have no problem
with removing it intact from a woman's body and leaving it to get on
with its busy life. -- Frank O'Dwyer
And if an adult is biologically independent they will have no problem going
to the African jungle and living on the food the catch. Humans are social
animals, only a few exceptional young adults are able to survive on their
own for any length of time, even in an ideal environment like an African
forest.
You are a strange person, Malcolm.
Liz #658 BAAWA
You can define anything you want, any way you want. Defining it as such
is not the same as offering real world evidence to support your
assertion. -- Woden
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 01:40:08 PM |
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Liz wrote:
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
Nah, I love women. What I'm saying is that if they gave children the
reciprocal unfettered freedom and right to, on a whimsical whim, have
their mother's skull cracked open and their brains sucked out, a lot of
pro-choice people would become pro-life lickity split. Think about it.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 04:14:09 PM |
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<redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote:
Liz wrote:
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
Nah, I love women. What I'm saying is that if they gave children the
reciprocal unfettered freedom and right to, on a whimsical whim, have
their mother's skull cracked open and their brains sucked out, a lot of
pro-choice people would become pro-life lickity split. Think about it.
Thought about it. You're a wackjob. A kook. A murderous lunatic.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liz" |
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03 Sep 2006 01:56:11 PM |
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On 3 Sep 2006 11:40:08 -0700, in news message
<1157308808.618550.63700@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Liz wrote:
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
Nah, I love women. What I'm saying is that if they gave children the
reciprocal unfettered freedom and right to, on a whimsical whim, have
their mother's skull cracked open and their brains sucked out, a lot of
pro-choice people would become pro-life lickity split. Think about it.
I have thought about it, and I think you are a sociopath.
Liz #658 BAAWA
We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not
enough to make us love one another, - Johnathan Swift
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
04 Sep 2006 09:31:30 AM |
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On 3 Sep 2006 11:40:08 -0700, wrote:
Liz wrote:
Interesting that you are advocating the death of women who chose to
give birth. Isn't that against your own position? Or do you just
dislike women in general?
Nah, I love women. What I'm saying is that if they gave children the
reciprocal unfettered freedom and right to, on a whimsical whim, have
their mother's skull cracked open and their brains sucked out, a lot of
pro-choice people would become pro-life lickity split. Think about it.
Under those terms, the unwanted children of pro-lifer
would be the most likely to be killed by the children. Not a
bad idea, really abused children could kill abusive
parents at will. Pro-child abuser would soon be wiped out.
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Court: Telling child to stab mom not abuse |
03 Sep 2006 01:17:54 PM |
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:18:51 -0400, "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in news message <adidnS0xlqghnWbZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If the mom should have
the freedom to kill her baby before the birth process, the dad should at
least have the freedom to tell the child to do the same to the mom.
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/local_news/article/0%2C2545%2CTCP_16736_4963413%2C00.html
ST. LUCIE COUNTY - An appeals court on Friday threw out the child abuse
conviction of a Stuart man who told his 6-year-old son to get a knife and
stab the boy's mother, saying words alone do not amount to abuse.
Edward Munao, 40, was found guilty by a jury in April 2005 of child abuse
and solicitation to commit aggravated battery and Circuit Judge Gary Sweet
sentenced him to five years on each count, to be served back-to-back. The
Fourth District Court of Appeal upheld the solicitation charge, but
acquitted him of abuse, knocking five years off his total sentence.
You do understand, don't you, that the father was sentenced to five
years in jail for telling the child to participate in a crime? And
that it is illegal to try to persuade, by any means, another person to
commit a crime? And that is why dear, old dad will be sitting in jail
for the next five years.
That act just wasn't considered child abuse.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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