Religions > Atheism > Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher
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06 Sep 2005 05:47:06 PM |
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Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher
By Emma Elliott
Teacher had sued, claiming 'sexual orientation' discrimination.
The original intent of the Founding Fathers was upheld this week by an
appeals court in Minnesota, reports the Pioneer Press of St. Paul. The
ruling blocked a "gay" teacher's attempt to sue the Christian
school that discharged him because of his homosexuality.
"This was clear-cut," said Robert Knight, director of Concerned
Women for America's (CWA's) Culture & Family Institute: "If a
church school can't tell a teacher not to flout Biblical morality,
the school might as well go out of business, which is what the ACLU and
other God-haters are really trying to accomplish. The court rejected
the activist role that other courts have taken, and wisely upheld the
First Amendment rights of the Lutherans to determine their own
standards."
The teacher, referred to as John FR Doe in the court's ruling, was
ordained as a minister by Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod in 1973.
According to court documents, he served as campus pastor to the
Lutheran High School of Greater Minnesota in Bloomington from 1976 to
1979. He returned to that position in 1993. His duties included
conducting school chapel services and counseling students. When his
homosexuality became known to the bishop of Doe's synod, Doe was
asked to resign. He then sued the high school and the Lutheran
Church-Missouri Synod for discrimination.
The Lutheran High School of Greater Minnesota is affiliated with the
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod. Lutheran schools make up the largest
Protestant parochial school system in the United States.
The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod has taken an unequivocal stance
against homosexuality. According to court documents, the synod in 1973
called homosexual behavior "intrinsically sinful." In 1999 it
published a document titled "A plan for Ministry to Homosexuals and
Their Families," which describes homosexuality as "the tragic
result of original sin."
The Minnesota State Court of Appeals on Tuesday upheld a district
court's decision that hearing Doe's suit would violate the
separation of church and state.
"We all talk about the separation of church and state. This is what
it's all about," said the school's attorney William Hart to the
Pioneer Press. "People don't have the right to challenge church
doctrine in court. Otherwise, the state would define what religions
could and could not believe."
The Supreme Court's 1971 decision Lemon v. Kurtzman set the standard
for determining if a state action violates the First Amendment.
According to the so-called Lemon test, the government's action must
have a secular purpose, must not advance or inhibit religion and must
not excessively entangle government with religion. If the action meets
these three criteria, it is constitutional.
In accordance with this precedent, the Minnesota Court of Appeals ruled
that it may not decide whether or not Doe's discharge was
discriminatory. His lawsuit would force the court to conduct a
"searching inquiry" into a church's doctrine and administration.
This would violate the Lemon test's third criteria of avoiding
"excessive entanglement."
Doe also argued the high school's actions violated the Minnesota
Human Rights Act, which prohibits discharge based on "sexual
orientation." Religious associations, however, are exempt from this
prohibition. The court rejected Doe's argument that the high school
and the synod do not qualify for the exemption.
In making this determination, the court relied on a 2004 case involving
a mailroom employee discharged from the Billy Graham Evangelistic
Association. That decision established that the Minnesota Human Rights
Act exemption also applied to nonprofit religious organizations engaged
in a religious business activity.
It is not yet known if Doe will appeal the decision.
Reflecting on the court's decision, David Strand, Director of Public
Affairs for the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, said, "Of course
we're sad that someone lost their job, but we're very relieved the
court upheld our First Amendment rights."
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07 Sep 2005 12:31:13 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
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07 Sep 2005 08:18:37 PM |
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Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
10 Sep 2005 10:33:31 PM |
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wrote:
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
So, no women, nor football players; no wrestlers, nor soldiers; no
hockey skaters, nor ballroom dancers, and definitely no politicians.
Pretty boring place. (At least for those who don't get the irony of a
bunch of men "bending low" for a fellow who allegedly doesn't like
homosexuals. Hmm... And maybe not for them either.)
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions.
The reason was idolatry. But don't let me interrupt you as you interrupt
God.
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
Selective truth is still a lie.
Thank you for playing. Please let the door hit you on the way out. (And
don't play with the knob.)
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People need insults. Most people behave so abominably that they cry out for abuse. Charity moves us to meet this need. Abuse is a form of attention, and a little accommodating attention makes anyone feel human again. Now f*** off, oh clueless blatherskite!
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| User: "BYTE ME!" |
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07 Sep 2005 08:45:54 PM |
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wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (=A92001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
=20
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?=20
=20
=20
1 Cor 6:9-10
=20
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
=20
Rom 1:26-27
=20
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
=20
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
=20
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
=20
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
=20
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
=20
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
=20
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
The main problem with this spew is that god did not write the bible, men =
wrote it. Go figure!
--=20
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too =
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only =
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =96Thomas Paine
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
10 Sep 2005 09:41:33 PM |
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In article <mJMTe.300069$WN5.15788@fe02.news.easynews.com>,=20
donotreply@nowhere.com says...
wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (=A92001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
=20
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?=20
=20
=20
1 Cor 6:9-10
=20
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
=20
Rom 1:26-27
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26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
=20
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
=20
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
=20
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
=20
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
=20
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
=20
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
=20
The main problem with this spew is that god did not write the bible, men
wrote it. Go figure!
God inspired the men to write the Bible you heathen!!!!!!
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| User: "BYTE ME!" |
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11 Sep 2005 12:52:39 PM |
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Chris wrote:
In article <mJMTe.300069$WN5.15788@fe02.news.easynews.com>,=20
donotreply@nowhere.com says...
=20
wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (=C2=A92001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?=20
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in=
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."=
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
The main problem with this spew is that god did not write the bible, me=
n
wrote it. Go figure!
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God inspired the men to write the Bible you heathen!!!!!! =20
Does god personally speak to you, moron?
--=20
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too =
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only =
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =E2=80=93Thomas Paine
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11 Sep 2005 01:00:15 PM |
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In article <H9_Ue.9646$a14.486@fe09.news.easynews.com>,=20
donotreply@nowhere.com says...
God inspired the men to write the Bible you heathen!!!!!! =20
=20
Does god personally speak to you, moron?
=20
--=20
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=
=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=
=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =E2=80=93Thomas Paine
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Yeah, he said you need to get off the internet and go play in traffic!
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| User: "BYTE ME!" |
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11 Sep 2005 05:09:00 PM |
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Chris wrote:
In article <H9_Ue.9646$a14.486@fe09.news.easynews.com>,=20
donotreply@nowhere.com says...
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God inspired the men to write the Bible you heathen!!!!!! =20
Does god personally speak to you, moron?
--=20
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=
=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and to=
o
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces onl=
y
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of =
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=
=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =C3=A2=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDThomas Paine
=20
Yeah, he said you need to get off the internet and go play in traffic!
You sure you didn't misunderstand him and he actually meant for you to=20
play in traffic?
--=20
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too =
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only =
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =E2=80=93Thomas Paine
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
07 Sep 2005 10:40:14 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to :
Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)" you posted in
alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
Xians are cultists. Xianity is a cult, and has always been a cult.
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
Well, it's your interpretation, anyway.
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
LOL!!!!!
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
10 Sep 2005 09:45:33 PM |
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In article <yoOTe.432200$5V4.24691@pd7tw3no>, =FDk=AE=E5=F1s=EBp=F4p@w=F2=
=E9m.g=AE=F3=20
says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddes=
s
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to :
Hello "maf1029 (=A92001-2008)" you posted in
alt.religion.christian.baptist :=20
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
=20
1 Cor 6:9-10
=20
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
=20
Rom 1:26-27
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26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
=20
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
=20
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
=20
Xians are cultists. Xianity is a cult, and has always been a cult.
=20
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
=20
Well, it's your interpretation, anyway.
=20
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
=20
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
=20
You'll be reincarnated into dirt, ahes to ashed, dust to dust, thats it,=20
reincarnation is BULL *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 05:13:05 AM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Chris:
ýk®åñsëpôp@wòém.g®ó says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to christia@quik.com:
<snip>
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
You'll be reincarnated into dirt, ahes to ashed, dust to dust, thats it,
reincarnation is BULL *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prove it. Prove either of your assertions, even. Without reference to your
wholly babble.
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___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 12:40:41 PM |
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In article <RqTUe.467797$s54.357110@pd7tw2no>, =FDk=AE=E5=F1s=EBp=F4p@w=F2=
=E9m.g=AE=F3=20
says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddes=
s
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Chris:
=FDk=AE=E5=F1s=EBp=F4p@w=F2=E9m.g=AE=F3 says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to christia@quik.com:
<snip>
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
=20
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
You'll be reincarnated into dirt, ahes to ashed, dust to dust, thats it=
,
reincarnation is BULL *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!
=20
Prove it. Prove either of your assertions, even. Without reference to you=
r
wholly babble.
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I don't have to prove *****. You proveit. Kill yourself and come back=20
as monkey and email me!
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 08:02:36 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Chris:
ýk®åñsëpôp@wòém.g®ó says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Chris:
ýk®åñsëpôp@wòém.g®ó says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to christia@quik.com:
<snip>
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
You'll be reincarnated into dirt, ahes to ashed, dust to dust, thats
it, reincarnation is BULL *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prove it. Prove either of your assertions, even. Without reference to
your wholly babble.
I don't have to prove *****. You proveit. Kill yourself and come back
as monkey and email me!
I'm not of the opinion that the reincarnated are often aware of previous
incarnations, sorry. Usually, they're not aware at all, or not more than a
little bit. Try proving there's a god, a heaven, no uch thing as
reincarnation, or that non-believers will go either to hell or nowhere at
all. Prove *one* of the ridiculous assertions you've been foisting on those
of us who don't buy into your religion.
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "VO here@there" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 09:51:31 AM |
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The Secretary of HomIntern wrote:
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Chris:
ýk®åñsëpôp@wòém.g®ó says...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to christia@quik.com:
<snip>
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Okay. I'm perfectly happy to be reincarnated on Earth, TYVM.
You'll be reincarnated into dirt, ahes to ashed, dust to dust, thats it,
reincarnation is BULL *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prove it. Prove either of your assertions, even. Without reference to your
wholly babble.
All she said was everything turns to ***** in the end.
That, in turn, deteriorates to atheist.
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07 Sep 2005 09:36:42 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:18:37 -0600, wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
It's very plain that you're a one-verse wonder who ignores context so
that you can fixate and obsess on your favorite topic -- gay sex.
This chapter of Romans, if read in context, refers to pagan fertility
rituals in which sex was involved. Very plain, no lie, just the whole
truth, which you conveeeeniently omitted.
Oh, and you need to look up the Greek phrase "para-physin" in Strong's
Concordance, since in your version above, it has been mistranslated.
Badly.
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
All religions are cults, by definition.
I was just wondering if your cult requires you to lie semi-regularly,
or are you allowed to substitute
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
First off, your credibility as spokesmodel is shot when you can't even
address your deity by his/her/its given name.
Secondly, the Romans verses **in context** refer to ritualized temple
prostitution, not homosexuality. Of course, in your mind, there can be
no difference, or you'd have to face up to your hatred. And that would
be just way too Christian for a guy like you.
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
It's actually a condemnation of HETEROsexuals who went in for group
sex to worship pagan fertility gods. But hey -- what's a little
context when you're gettin' your self-righteous judgment on, right?
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Well, then, I hope you enjoy Hell.
And your whole bitter/cranky thing -- honey, it's because you have to
"practice" at sex. It's not a piano.
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
And when you find that truth and stop lying, I'll let you know. Until
then, you're just another semi-literate godbot, allergic to exegesis
and context, who spews forth the bile and ***** in which he has
cast himself adrift.
Have fun with that, because your hate is all you've got!
SGLY --
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
08 Sep 2005 09:20:11 AM |
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Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:18:37 -0600, wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Homosexuals are not fornicators, effeminate? Nonsense.
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom
of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
NASU
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
9 Don't you know that those doing such things have no share in the
Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives,
who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals-will have no share
in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards,
slanderers, or robbers.
TLB
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their
women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in
their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
NKJV
Pretty plain, no lie, just the truth.
It's very plain that you're a one-verse wonder who ignores context so
that you can fixate and obsess on your favorite topic -- gay sex.
This chapter of Romans, if read in context, refers to pagan fertility
rituals in which sex was involved. Very plain, no lie, just the whole
truth, which you conveeeeniently omitted.
Oh, and you need to look up the Greek phrase "para-physin" in Strong's
Concordance, since in your version above, it has been mistranslated.
Badly.
Try again. You have NO translation that justifies men having sex with
men, or women having sex with women. You have only your own personal
"rationalizations" to support you, NOTHING SCRIPTURAL AT ALL.
Baptists are not "a cult." We are just Christians
All religions are cults, by definition.
I was just wondering if your cult requires you to lie semi-regularly,
or are you allowed to substitute
The part of the homosexual community that considers itself "Christian"
certainly is a cult, and lying is something you do regularly.
We Baptists teach what the Bible teaches; lying is a sin.
God considers men with men and women with women to be "vile passions."
First off, your credibility as spokesmodel is shot when you can't even
address your deity by his/her/its given name.
Apparently YOUR only deity resides between your legs.
Secondly, the Romans verses **in context** refer to ritualized temple
prostitution, not homosexuality. Of course, in your mind, there can be
no difference, or you'd have to face up to your hatred. And that would
be just way too Christian for a guy like you.
It speaks SPECIFICALLY to homosexuality and the other sins it
addresses. And sorry bubba, but I don't hate you guys. I pity you.
There is a difference.
And for you to claim to know what I feel better than I do is
ludicrous.
That sounds like a condemnation to me. fornicator, effeminate, those
sound like homosexuals to me.
It's actually a condemnation of HETEROsexuals who went in for group
sex to worship pagan fertility gods. But hey -- what's a little
context when you're gettin' your self-righteous judgment on, right?
The context says nothing at all about "group sex to worship pagan
fertility gods." The text doesn't discuss the subject at all.
Apparently God does NOT LIKE homosexual behavior and those who
practice it will not go to Heaven.
Well, then, I hope you enjoy Hell.
And your whole bitter/cranky thing -- honey, it's because you have to
"practice" at sex. It's not a piano.
BIBLICAL TRUTH, no lie!
And when you find that truth and stop lying, I'll let you know.
And you think you are the expert on it.
You are bigotted and self-righteous, but you are no expert on the
Bible, as you have clearly shown here.
In Christ Jesus,
Christian
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
08 Sep 2005 11:02:11 AM |
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<> wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:18:37 -0600, wrote:
Hello "maf1029 (©2001-2008)"
<saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Homosexuals are not fornicators, effeminate? Nonsense.
Your prejudices aren't reality.
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
Another passage:
1 John 4:20
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:57:17 PM |
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Hello (Ray Fischer),
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:56:13 -0600, wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Homosexuals are not fornicators, effeminate? Nonsense.
Your prejudices aren't reality.
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
Another passage:
1 John 4:20
Hello ray,
1 John 4:17-21
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in
the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because
fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in
love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us.
20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love
God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him:
that he who loves God must love his brother also.
NKJV
Pretending we don't love you does not change anything, ray. All it
does is load your posts with falsehood.
We Christians love all sinners. . .Our Savior died for you too.
But we hate sin, as God hates sin.
The sinful behavior by homosexuals is opposed to God. But God still
loves you, and so do we Christians.
Of course there are radical idiots on both your side and mine who
claim different things, hate each other and everything, and are often
very loud. But they don't speak for most of your side or of my side
either.
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
I notice you still have not refuted the passages I gave.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 Sep 2005 10:27:14 PM |
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<christia@quik.com> wrote:
Hello (Ray Fischer),
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
The punishment for working on Sunday is death, according to the Bible.
Eating shellfish is an abomination, according to the Bible.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Homosexuals are not fornicators, effeminate? Nonsense.
Your prejudices aren't reality.
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
Another passage:
1 John 4:20
Hello ray,
1 John 4:17-21
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in
the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because
fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in
love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us.
20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love
God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him:
that he who loves God must love his brother also.
NKJV
Pretending we don't love you does not change anything, ray.
Pretending that you love even as you condemn those who love is
just the desperation of the bigotted.
We Christians love all sinners. . .Our Savior died for you too.
Except for the gays that oyu hate and the self-righteous judgement
and arrogance you exhibit.
But we hate sin, as God hates sin.
Luke 6:42
The sinful behavior by homosexuals is opposed to God.
You don't speak for God.
Of course there are radical idiots on both your side and mine who
Tell us: What is my "side"?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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09 Sep 2005 09:49:04 AM |
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Hello (Ray Fischer),
you posted in alt.religion.christian.baptist :
<christia@quik.com> wrote:
Hello (Ray Fischer),
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
The punishment for working on Sunday is death, according to the Bible.
Eating shellfish is an abomination, according to the Bible.
Completely false! The Bible does not say one single thing against
working on Sunday! NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE will back you up at all!
As for eating shellfish. . .I don't like em anyway.
And that was for the Jews, not Christians. You really should learn a
little bit about Christianity before attempting to critique it. It
would make you sound a little more intelligent if you did.
So, does you cult have more daily lying requirements for you, or was
this just a test run for an even bigger lie?
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of
God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
KJV
No mention of homosexual anything there.
Thanks for refuting yourself.
Homosexuals are not fornicators, effeminate? Nonsense.
Your prejudices aren't reality.
Another translation:
1 Cor 6:9
Another passage:
1 John 4:20
Hello ray,
1 John 4:17-21
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in
the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because
fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in
love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us.
20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love
God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him:
that he who loves God must love his brother also.
NKJV
Pretending we don't love you does not change anything, ray.
Pretending that you love even as you condemn those who love is
just the desperation of the bigotted.
We don't condemn you. We condemn your behaviors. We love you. Jesus
died for you as well as for us.
We Christians love all sinners. . .Our Savior died for you too.
Except for the gays that oyu hate and the self-righteous judgement
and arrogance you exhibit.
So far I have felt no hatred towards anyone, and the judgement I judge
by is the SCRIPTURES.
Your intentional misinterpretation of our actions does not change our
actions OR our motives.
But we hate sin, as God hates sin.
Luke 6:42
You should follow it.
The sinful behavior by homosexuals is opposed to God.
You don't speak for God.
Sure I do. I point out what God has said in His Word, the Bible.
That IS speaking for God.
You surely don't speak for God OR for society as a whole.
Of course there are radical idiots on both your side and mine who
Tell us: What is my "side"?
The side that advocates acceptance of homosexual behavior as "normal"
and "good."
Or are you trying to argue something you DON'T believe in?
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
10 Sep 2005 01:38:23 AM |
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<christia@quik.com> wrote:
Hello (Ray Fischer),
<christia@quik.com> wrote:
The Bible condemns homosexual behavior.
The punishment for working on Sunday is death, according to the Bible.
Eating shellfish is an abomination, according to the Bible.
Completely false! The Bible does not say one single thing against
working on Sunday! NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE will back you up at all!
Apparently you haven't even read your own Holy Book.
Ex 16:26
Ex 16:29
Ex 20:10
Ex 31:15
Ex 35:2
Lev 25:4
Deut 5:14
Jer 17:21-22
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else. And yet
you freely ignore that Bible's commandent to keep that day holy even
as you condemn others for sexuality.
Looks like you're a typical "christian" hypocrite.
As for eating shellfish. . .I don't like em anyway.
So what?
And that was for the Jews, not Christians.
Cafeteria "Christian".
You really should learn a
little bit about Christianity before attempting to critique it.
You first.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
10 Sep 2005 11:30:34 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else.
And it's pretty clear that said day = Saturday. Or... At least it used
to before the adoption of the Gregorian calendar shifted things by ten
days. (Which means that Wednesday is the *true* Sabbath. Oh dear...)
--
People need insults. Most people behave so abominably that they cry out for abuse. Charity moves us to meet this need. Abuse is a form of attention, and a little accommodating attention makes anyone feel human again. Now f*** off, oh clueless blatherskite!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 12:52:58 AM |
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else.
And it's pretty clear that said day = Saturday.
Only if you're Jewish.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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11 Sep 2005 03:53:56 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else.
And it's pretty clear that said day = Saturday.
Only if you're Jewish.
Now why should God be human and start work on Monday? Besides, the Jews
were the first to know Him; Certainly their long association lends
itself well to getting quibbling little factoids like "When did You
start making things?" answered correctly.
Regardless, those who work on Wednesday are going to Hell. God doesn't
change His rules for folks named Gregor.
--
People need insults. Most people behave so abominably that they cry out for abuse. Charity moves us to meet this need. Abuse is a form of attention, and a little accommodating attention makes anyone feel human again. Now f*** off, oh clueless blatherskite!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 06:22:06 PM |
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else.
And it's pretty clear that said day = Saturday.
Only if you're Jewish.
Now why should God be human and start work on Monday?
Non sequitur.
Besides, the Jews
were the first to know Him; Certainly their long association lends
itself well to getting quibbling little factoids like "When did You
start making things?" answered correctly.
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 07:48:29 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Ray Fischer:
Dionisio wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dionisio wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Looks pretty clear that the Sabbath is a Holy Day or else.
And it's pretty clear that said day = Saturday.
Only if you're Jewish.
Now why should God be human and start work on Monday?
Non sequitur.
Besides, the Jews
were the first to know Him; Certainly their long association lends
itself well to getting quibbling little factoids like "When did You
start making things?" answered correctly.
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
Pssst! Ray. He's taking the *****. Just sit back and watch...Better yet, make
popcorn. Then sit back.
--
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 07:59:44 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
Well, if some folks want to disobey God, I guess that's their choice.
--
People need insults. Most people behave so abominably that they cry out for abuse. Charity moves us to meet this need. Abuse is a form of attention, and a little accommodating attention makes anyone feel human again. Now f*** off, oh clueless blatherskite!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
11 Sep 2005 11:34:53 PM |
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
Well, if some folks want to disobey God, I guess that's their choice.
Just as it's your choice to be an idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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12 Sep 2005 06:06:47 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
Well, if some folks want to disobey God, I guess that's their choice.
Just as it's your choice to be an idiot.
I don't make the facts, I just observe that they are what they are. And
the fact in this case is that I'm rather enjoying this superstitious
conversational topic, and the holes thereof. Rumor has it that God
doesn't change simply because humans wish Him to. Dreadfully
inconvenient that.
--
People need insults. Most people behave so abominably that they cry out for abuse. Charity moves us to meet this need. Abuse is a form of attention, and a little accommodating attention makes anyone feel human again. Now f*** off, oh clueless blatherskite!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Court Upholds Christian School's Right to Fire 'Gay' Teacher |
12 Sep 2005 11:36:27 AM |
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
The Christian Sabbath is Sunday. That's the way it's been for many
centuries.
Well, if some folks want to disobey God, I guess that's their choice.
Just as it's your choice to be an idiot.
I don't make the facts, I just observe that they are what they are.
No, you don't. Sunday is the Christian Sabbath, Saturday is the
Jewish Sabbath, and Friday is the Muslim Sabbath.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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