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Courts to decide if state can fund Baptist school's pharmacy ... |
Courts to decide if state can fund Baptist school's pharmacy ...
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/14419705.htm
Kentucky.com - Lexington,KY,USA
[excerpt]
Ernie Fletcher will not veto $10 million for a pharmacy school at the
University of the Cumberlands, but the said no money will be used on the
project until courts determine if it’s constitutional for state dollars to
go to the Baptist school.
Fletcher, on statewide television tonight, said, “I believe we need to
answer once and for all in Kentucky the legality of funding private
faith-based institutions for public purposes.”
The issue of state funding for private, religious schools grew more intense
after the school expelled student Jason Johnson because he said on a Web
site that he was gay. The Kentucky Fairness Alliance, which promotes gay
rights, had urged Fletcher to veto.
“I think (Gov. Fletcher) chose to fund bigotry and discrimination rather
than to promote equality throughout Kentucky,” Johnson said.
He said he was upset with Fletcher’s decision, “not only as a taxpayer, as
a citizen of Kentucky.”
Although Fletcher said he would not veto the money, the school apparently
won’t get it immediately.
.... “We’re talking about the separation of church and state. I don’t know
how he could blur that any more than he already has. ...
[end excerpt]
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The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
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American Theocrats - Past and Present
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The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
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all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
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"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: Courts to decide if state can fund Baptist school's pharmacy ...; unfair taxation, not c&s separation, is the issue |
27 Apr 2006 12:47:19 AM |
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Courts to decide if state can fund Baptist school's pharmacy ...
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/14419705.htm
Kentucky.com - Lexington,KY,USA
[excerpt]
Ernie Fletcher will not veto $10 million for a pharmacy school at the
University of the Cumberlands, but the said no money will be used on the
project until courts determine if it's constitutional for state dollars to
go to the Baptist school.
Fletcher, on statewide television tonight, said, "I believe we need to
answer once and for all in Kentucky the legality of funding private
faith-based institutions for public purposes."
The issue of state funding for private, religious schools grew more inten=
se
after the school expelled student Jason Johnson because he said on a Web
site that he was gay. The Kentucky Fairness Alliance, which promotes gay
rights, had urged Fletcher to veto.
"I think (Gov. Fletcher) chose to fund bigotry and discrimination rather
than to promote equality throughout Kentucky," Johnson said.
He said he was upset with Fletcher's decision, "not only as a taxpayer, as
a citizen of Kentucky."
Although Fletcher said he would not veto the money, the school apparently
won't get it immediately.
... "We're talking about the separation of church and state. I don't know
how he could blur that any more than he already has. ...
[end excerpt]
The core issue with state funds for the Baptist pharmacy school is not
a c&s separation issue but an unfair taxation issue. The state ideally
has the power to appropriate tax based funds to the school because the
10th Amendment gives them this power. The real problem, however, is
that state lawmakers have never gotten their acts together with respect
to making tax laws that respect all religious perspectives. In this
case the Baptist school is unthinkingly wanting to accept taxes, a part
of which where quite possibly collected from the former gay student and
and third parties who were helping to pay the student's tuition. So
the state is failing to balance its 10th A. protected powers with
personal taxation issues that are probably protected by the 14th A.
Jefferson was well aware of problems like this in his time:
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation
of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical."
--Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545
But also consider the hypothetical possibility that the gay student was
going to become a public school evolution teacher whose salary would be
derived in part from Christian taxpayers, the children of whom would be
told by this teacher that life is a random happening.
Again, state lawmakers have never gotten their acts together with
respect to making tax laws that respect all religious perspectives.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why =
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisne=
r,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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