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Religions > Atheism |
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"Dale" |
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03 Apr 2004 12:01:13 PM |
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Cross Posting |
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio is
approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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03 Apr 2004 09:51:55 PM |
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Dale wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio
is approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
Get a good newsreader. A good newreader will allow to to killfile pests,
threads you aren't interested from, posts over X lines long, crossposted
to X groups, threads mentioning people or sujects you don't care for even
if not mentionin headers, and more
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 11:57:51 PM |
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wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> astounded us with: news:406f9d95
$0$17093$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com:
Dale wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio
is approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
Get a good newsreader. A good newreader will allow to to killfile pests,
threads you aren't interested from, posts over X lines long, crossposted
to X groups, threads mentioning people or sujects you don't care for even
if not mentionin headers, and more
http://xnews.newsguy.com
It's free...
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 04:24:20 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600 in episode
<c4mu3s$c09@library1.airnews.net> we saw our hero "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio
is approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
alt.atheism is not a moderated ng so there's nothing to "set."
talk.origins is moderated so they have a system that can handle such
things.
There is an alt.atheism.moderated but it seems to have dried up...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "spakka" |
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03 Apr 2004 01:26:48 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, Dale wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio is
approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
No. talk.origins is moderated.
You need a decent newsreader. Not sure about Windows myself - look
at some other threads. It comes up fairly often. Something with
score files would help.
I find this group a bit of a stress test for newsreaders.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 04:26:51 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:26:48 +0000 in episode
<pan.2004.04.03.19.31.29.798421@m16.demon.co.uk> we saw our hero spakka
<usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, Dale wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to
accept only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
Is it possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the
signal-to-noise ratio is approaching zero. Eliminating most
cross-posters would help a lot.
No. talk.origins is moderated.
You need a decent newsreader. Not sure about Windows myself - look at
some other threads. It comes up fairly often. Something with score files
would help.
I find this group a bit of a stress test for newsreaders.
Yeah, it's a good one huh? <g>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "raven1" |
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04 Apr 2004 05:09:37 AM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
And as usual, Jabbers is deliberately lying. Talk.origins limits the
total groups posted to four, not two. He's well aware of this, just as
he's also aware that t.o doesn't moderate for content, yet he persists
in lying about this as well. Basically, he's a pathological liar and
sociopath, who is best ignored.
Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio is
approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
Talk.origins is robo-moderated; alt.atheism isn't, nor is there a
likelihood that such could be initiated, alas. A newsreader client
with good kill filters, like Forte Agent,can be quite helpful in
separating the gold from the dross.
www.forteinc.com
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| User: "JaBrIoL" |
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04 Apr 2004 03:40:17 PM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:<blnv601lvt33l8vo7s2fkgk3s2l616j7p3@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
And as usual, Jabbers is deliberately lying. Talk.origins limits the
total groups posted to four, not two. He's well aware of this, just as
he's also aware that t.o doesn't moderate for content, yet he persists
in lying about this as well. Basically, he's a pathological liar and
sociopath, who is best ignored.
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
this has been discussed at length in News.Groups
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| User: "The Rev Optional" |
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04 Apr 2004 05:09:36 PM |
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you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
this has been discussed at length in News.Groups
That doesn't make anything true either ya twit.
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| User: "raven1" |
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04 Apr 2004 03:51:02 PM |
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On 4 Apr 2004 13:40:17 -0700, (JaBrIoL) wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:<blnv601lvt33l8vo7s2fkgk3s2l616j7p3@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
And as usual, Jabbers is deliberately lying. Talk.origins limits the
total groups posted to four, not two. He's well aware of this, just as
he's also aware that t.o doesn't moderate for content, yet he persists
in lying about this as well. Basically, he's a pathological liar and
sociopath, who is best ignored.
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
this has been discussed at length in News.Groups
And you've been wrong every time.
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| User: "Jabriol" |
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04 Apr 2004 04:00:55 PM |
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On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
neither are the support groups..
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past, and can do so at whim. it is called
content moderation.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
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| User: "Tom" |
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04 Apr 2004 07:43:23 PM |
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"Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net> wrote in message
news:40707797$0$67463$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
neither are the support groups..
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past, and can do so at whim. it is called
content moderation.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
How many times have you changed your name to avoid killfile filters,
jabbers? You are aware that the majority of us don't want to read your lying
*****.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 09:57:33 PM |
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1071atddvhe47f6@corp.supernews.com...
"Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net> wrote in message
news:40707797$0$67463$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
neither are the support groups..
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past, and can do so at whim. it is
called
content moderation.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
How many times have you changed your name to avoid killfile filters,
jabbers? You are aware that the majority of us don't want to read your
lying
*****.
As soon as I see it's jabbers, I rekillfile him without even reading
whatever
nonsense he is spewing. His changing his name every two seconds is a
failure, like everything else he tries to do.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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05 Apr 2004 01:52:37 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<SYGdnekVnumNVu3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>...
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1071atddvhe47f6@corp.supernews.com...
"Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net> wrote in message
news:40707797$0$67463$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
neither are the support groups..
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past, and can do so at whim. it is
called
content moderation.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
How many times have you changed your name to avoid killfile filters,
jabbers? You are aware that the majority of us don't want to read your
lying
*****.
As soon as I see it's jabbers, I rekillfile him without even reading
whatever
nonsense he is spewing. His changing his name every two seconds is a
failure, like everything else he tries to do.
heh... I do the same with this carol person who changes her screen
name sometimes *THREE* times in one day!
Another woman who calls herself promenade beelzelite is the same
way... as soon as I see them I plonk them without reading a word :^D
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| User: "Their 2¢" |
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05 Apr 2004 02:54:25 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDancer@usa.net> wrote in message
news:eb91c9d7.0404042252.538ae01@posting.google.com...
heh... I do the same with this carol person who changes her screen
name sometimes *THREE* times in one day!
Another woman who calls herself promenade beelzelite is the same
way... as soon as I see them I plonk them without reading a word :^D
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Yeah! Why learn something when you can remain ignorant? :^)
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2 ¢....
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl" |
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05 Apr 2004 04:43:22 AM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:00:55 GMT, "Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net>
wrote:
On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
neither are the support groups..
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past, and can do so at whim. it is called
content moderation.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
wOw - 6 groups already and they appear in YOUR post!!
--
Gordie
"Mankind can accept the Scriptures on the basis that they are inspired by God,
but this does not eliminate the facts that the authors of these sacred books
were Roman Catholic and that ONLY the Catholic Church has the ability to
determine which books were sacred and which were not."
http://www.catholicapologetics.net/apolo_14.htm
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| User: "Wolf" |
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05 Apr 2004 10:47:17 PM |
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"The Nolalu Barn Owl" <gordy@nolalu.on.ca> wrote in message
news:rga270l9nkjgspclscsaduvi5ga2r622c5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:00:55 GMT, "Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net>
wrote:
Gordie
"Mankind can accept the Scriptures on the basis that they are inspired by
God,
but this does not eliminate the facts that the authors of these sacred
books
were Roman Catholic and that ONLY the Catholic Church has the ability to
determine which books were sacred and which were not."
http://www.catholicapologetics.net/apolo_14.htm
I'm so sorry, but I am going to have to laugh derisively here. The Roman
Catholic Church was not founded until over a thousand years after Jesus died
and the majority of the NT was already written. Catholic Church has no
rights to the bible at all whatsoever. In fact the OT was written by Jews,
as well as a large portion of the NT... well ex-Jews anyway. Who taught
your bible classes? Damn. Do not attempt to fight the worlds most
insidious cult organization unprepared and uninformed. They will eat you
for breakfast, and then spit you out again because you are unworthy. Fight
the fight intelligently, or don't fight it at all.
Wolf
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| User: "firstjois" |
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05 Apr 2004 10:53:27 PM |
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Guys,
It is the responsibility of every poster to cut back on cross posting.
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl" |
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06 Apr 2004 11:59:43 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:47:17 -0700, "Wolf" <Sylvarwolf@charter.net>
wrote:
"The Nolalu Barn Owl" <gordy@nolalu.on.ca> wrote in message
news:rga270l9nkjgspclscsaduvi5ga2r622c5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:00:55 GMT, "Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net>
wrote:
Gordie
"Mankind can accept the Scriptures on the basis that they are inspired by
God,
but this does not eliminate the facts that the authors of these sacred
books
were Roman Catholic and that ONLY the Catholic Church has the ability to
determine which books were sacred and which were not."
http://www.catholicapologetics.net/apolo_14.htm
I'm so sorry, but I am going to have to laugh derisively here. The Roman
Catholic Church was not founded until over a thousand years after Jesus died
and the majority of the NT was already written. Catholic Church has no
rights to the bible at all whatsoever. In fact the OT was written by Jews,
as well as a large portion of the NT... well ex-Jews anyway. Who taught
your bible classes? Damn. Do not attempt to fight the worlds most
insidious cult organization unprepared and uninformed. They will eat you
for breakfast, and then spit you out again because you are unworthy. Fight
the fight intelligently, or don't fight it at all.
Wolf
Funny, they say the same mocking things you do but they CANNOT prove
their position any more convincingly than you can.
Whatta you got? A Protestant CULT to fight with?
--
Gordie
'Of course "All scripture is inspired of God...' (2 Timothy 3:16).
'...Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.' (2 Peter 1:21).
'Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.' (Matthew. 24:35).
'The grass withered, and the flower has fallen--but the word of the Lord endures forever.' (1 Peter 1:24-25).
It is for this very reason that God chose the Catholic Church to protect then preserve the scriptures for all-time."
http://www.catholicapologetics.net/apolo_14.htm
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| User: "raven1" |
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04 Apr 2004 04:36:24 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:00:55 GMT, "Jabriol" <jabriol@.Familias.net>
wrote:
On 4-Apr-2004, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
you know.. you can put it to the test.
crosspost this reply
three groups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
sci.anthropology.paleo,talk.origins
this would make 4 with the atheism NG.
Calling people names does not make your statement true.
My statement is true. You're being deliberately disingenuous, as
usual, about the fact that there are certain groups that the
talk.origins robo-moderator does not allow cross-posts to, by request
from those groups, largely because of you. You're free to cross-post
to any other groups up to a total of four.
You're well aware of all this, of course. Why do you persist in being
dishonest about it?
interesting you forget these small little facts in your reply. you were
saying about dishonesty?
Yes, I was saying that you're incredibly dishonest.
ARJW and SAP are not moderated newsgroups.
Irrelevant. Talk.origins is. That's all that matters.
neither are the support groups..
Also irrelevant. Talk.origins is. That's all that matters.
also you forget to tell, that the moderator does not have follow the
charter.
and he has banned people in the past,
For example...?
and can do so at whim. it is called
content moderation.
No, it isn't. "Content moderation" is exactly what the phrase implies;
restricting the content of what one is allowed to post. Talk.origins
has no such restrictions. Disallowing cross-posts to certain groups
has nothing to do with the actual content of the posts. Apparently
you're unable to comprehend basic English.
even the denizens of News.Groups agrees to this.
So they're as disingenuous as you?
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 08:42:20 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:01:13 -0600, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to accept
only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list. Is it
possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the signal-to-noise ratio is
approaching zero. Eliminating most cross-posters would help a lot.
I wish we could.
I've been here for years and it's the worst it's ever been. Mostly
because Yang has us cross posted to busy political groups.
*****.
If you want to enjoy newsgroups, learn to killfile with gusto. I
killfile people and subjects during every download. My reader says
it's retrieving 900 posts, then the killfile, and then downloads 600
posts.
People are stupid. They feed trolls. Nuff said.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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03 Apr 2004 01:43:24 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Dale:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to
accept only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
Is it possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the
signal-to-noise ratio is approaching zero. Eliminating most
cross-posters would help a lot.
If you're using Xnews, copy this into your score file. Things are a
whole lot cleaner now.
[.]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.tasteless.jokes
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.tastless.jokes
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.politics.bush
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: seattle.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: tx.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: nyc.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: dc.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: talk.politics
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.politics.british
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.politics.republicans
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.fan.barbra.streisand
[alt.atheism]
Score:: -9999
Xref: alt.os.windows-xp
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day.
Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
--Timothy Jones
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 04:47:16 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:43:24 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C07763D890Fvicman@216.148.227.77> we saw our hero Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com>:
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Dale:
Jabriol recently informed me that the talk.origins ng is set up to
accept only posts with no more than two groups in the newsgroups list.
Is it possible to set up alt.atheism this way? Lately the
signal-to-noise ratio is approaching zero. Eliminating most
cross-posters would help a lot.
If you're using Xnews, copy this into your score file. Things are a whole
lot cleaner now.
Finally figured out how to get that working in Pan (Linux). Nice watching
all those "LIBRULS ARE" messages and threads just up and vanish...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "spakka" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 05:39:02 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:47:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:43:24 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C07763D890Fvicman@216.148.227.77> we saw our hero Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com>:
If you're using Xnews, copy this into your score file. Things are a whole
lot cleaner now.
Finally figured out how to get that working in Pan (Linux). Nice watching
all those "LIBRULS ARE" messages and threads just up and vanish...
This is where pan's annoying me. Killfile a troll & each thread turns
into multiple threads, one for each response.
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score
for each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 05:52:13 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 23:39:02 +0000 in episode
<pan.2004.04.03.23.43.49.976514@m16.demon.co.uk> we saw our hero spakka
<usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:47:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:43:24 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C07763D890Fvicman@216.148.227.77> we saw our hero Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com>:
If you're using Xnews, copy this into your score file. Things are a
whole lot cleaner now.
Finally figured out how to get that working in Pan (Linux). Nice
watching all those "LIBRULS ARE" messages and threads just up and
vanish...
This is where pan's annoying me. Killfile a troll & each thread turns
into multiple threads, one for each response.
I've resorted to a couple of things. One being killfiling "LUBRULS IS"
troll boy by common phrases (he likes DemoRAT so that one was easy).
That works fairly well.
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score for
each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
On the *other hand, it does allow you to killfile on Xref. Which gets you
to the same place. So you can add stuff like:
%BOS
[^alt\.atheism$]
Score: =-9999
Xref: alt.os.windows-xp
%EOS
To kill *everything coming out of K-twit's home ng. So it *does let you
killfile on newsgroups. Just not quite the way I would have expected. And
I find no way to do that through the GUI. You have to edit the score file
directly.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "spakka" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 04:40:25 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:52:13 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I've resorted to a couple of things. One being killfiling "LUBRULS IS"
troll boy by common phrases (he likes DemoRAT so that one was easy).
That works fairly well.
Killing 'Liberals' in subject line is a good idea, yes.
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score for
each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
On the *other hand, it does allow you to killfile on Xref. Which gets you
to the same place. So you can add stuff like:
My newsfeed doesn't fill in the Xref header properly. I don't think
it's required to.
I've just looked through the pan source. It looks like 'Newsgroups'
is a header which requires the whole article to be retrieved, so there's
probably a reason why you can't score on 'Newsgroups': I know slrn
becomes unusably slow when you inadvertently filter on such a header.
Bugger.
It's not even like your US 'liberals' are anything worth reading about.
It just seems to mean 'people opposed to fascism'. In the UK, our
Liberals have a colourful gay sex / murder conspiracy / dog killing
history.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 08:17:21 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:40:25 +0000 in episode
<pan.2004.04.04.09.45.13.969588@m16.demon.co.uk> we saw our hero spakka
<usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:52:13 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I've resorted to a couple of things. One being killfiling "LUBRULS IS"
troll boy by common phrases (he likes DemoRAT so that one was easy).
That works fairly well.
Killing 'Liberals' in subject line is a good idea, yes.
It helps. <G>
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score for
each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
On the *other hand, it does allow you to killfile on Xref. Which gets
you to the same place. So you can add stuff like:
My newsfeed doesn't fill in the Xref header properly. I don't think it's
required to.
I've just looked through the pan source. It looks like 'Newsgroups' is a
header which requires the whole article to be retrieved, so there's
probably a reason why you can't score on 'Newsgroups': I know slrn becomes
unusably slow when you inadvertently filter on such a header.
Well, NNTP doesn't require the entire article to be retrieved. Headers and
articles can be pulled separately. If that's what Pan does, they must have
backed themselves into a corner somehow.
(I became pretty familiar with the RFCs because back when Pan was just
getting started, I *was going to write my own reader. Got derailed by
projects that actually paid the bills and by the time I got back to the
idea, Pan was coming along and I started using it and sort of just let the
idea go. Though sometimes I do fiddle with the idea just because I don't
like the approaches I'm seeing out there. Oh well. Maybe. If I get around
to it. <g>)
Bugger.
It's not even like your US 'liberals' are anything worth reading about. It
just seems to mean 'people opposed to fascism'. In the UK, our Liberals
have a colourful gay sex / murder conspiracy / dog killing history.
Hell, the *word has been so wrecked it now pretty much means "somebody I
don't like." It's just a pejorative. Without any real substance. Like the
way they screech "LIBRUL!!!!!" about Clinton. When the man was the most
fiscally conservative president since Reagan and a staunch supporter of
free trade. Now the "conservative" president is outspending most of the
Democratic presidents of the last 40 years, pushed the biggest expansion
of the federal welfare state in 40 years, and has a habit of slapping
tariffs on imports with surprising abandon.
It's real Alice in Wonderland over here right now.
(And... wait, gay dogs murdering who??? I should read the UK press more
often. <G>)
(Oh and you mean the Lib Dems maybe? Or somebody else?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 10:31:09 AM |
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It's just a pejorative. Without any real substance. Like the
way they screech "LIBRUL!!!!!" about Clinton. When the man was the most
fiscally conservative president since Reagan and a staunch supporter of
free trade.
Actually, Clinton was MORE fiscally conservative than Reagan.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "spakka" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 09:37:25 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:17:21 -0500, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:40:25 +0000 in episode
<pan.2004.04.04.09.45.13.969588@m16.demon.co.uk> we saw our hero spakka
<usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:52:13 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
I've resorted to a couple of things. One being killfiling "LUBRULS IS"
troll boy by common phrases (he likes DemoRAT so that one was easy).
That works fairly well.
Killing 'Liberals' in subject line is a good idea, yes.
It helps. <G>
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score for
each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
On the *other hand, it does allow you to killfile on Xref. Which gets
you to the same place. So you can add stuff like:
My newsfeed doesn't fill in the Xref header properly. I don't think it's
required to.
I've just looked through the pan source. It looks like 'Newsgroups' is a
header which requires the whole article to be retrieved, so there's
probably a reason why you can't score on 'Newsgroups': I know slrn becomes
unusably slow when you inadvertently filter on such a header.
Well, NNTP doesn't require the entire article to be retrieved. Headers and
articles can be pulled separately. If that's what Pan does, they must have
backed themselves into a corner somehow.
I had a look at this when trying to sort out slrn. I think the trouble is
that some newer headers are implemented as part of the article body,
and aren't returned by a HEAD request. However, a quick look at the RFCs
suggests that Newsgroups is mandatory. I don't see why that wouldn't
always come back.
Wait a minute...
OK. Just tried it with telnet. My news server certainly returns the
Newsgroups header in the HEAD response. Guess I'll be hacking pan then.
(I became pretty familiar with the RFCs because back when Pan was just
getting started, I *was going to write my own reader. Got derailed by
projects that actually paid the bills and by the time I got back to the
idea, Pan was coming along and I started using it and sort of just let the
idea go. Though sometimes I do fiddle with the idea just because I don't
like the approaches I'm seeing out there. Oh well. Maybe. If I get around
to it. <g>)
<snip>
It's real Alice in Wonderland over here right now.
I've noticed.
(And... wait, gay dogs murdering who??? I should read the UK press more
often. <G>)
(Oh and you mean the Lib Dems maybe? Or somebody else?)
I'm talking about this:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/20/newsid_2550000/2550945.stm>
which was pretty sensational stuff at the time.
Yes, they've morphed into the Lib Dems. I'm tempted to vote for them
this time. They're the only party who resisted the Bush-Blair effort
in Iraq. The supposed 'official opposition' wanted a war, only more so.
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| User: "spakka" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
04 Apr 2004 01:16:20 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:17:21 -0500, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Well, NNTP doesn't require the entire article to be retrieved. Headers and
articles can be pulled separately. If that's what Pan does, they must have
backed themselves into a corner somehow.
FWIW, pan is using the XOVER NNTP extension, which returns a block of
overview data for a range of articles in a single transaction The
fields returned are
Subject:`
From:
Date:
Message-ID:
References:
Bytes:
Lines:
in that sequence, not necessarily the same as those returned by HEAD.
(In fact Bytes & Lines aren't even headers). There may be optional
trailing fields, which you can find out by asking the server LIST
OVERVIEW.FMT. My server tells me it sends Xref, but nothing else.
Looks like I'm stuck with some trolls.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Cross Posting |
03 Apr 2004 05:43:35 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 23:39:02 GMT, spakka <usenet_spam@m16.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:47:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:43:24 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C07763D890Fvicman@216.148.227.77> we saw our hero Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com>:
If you're using Xnews, copy this into your score file. Things are a whole
lot cleaner now.
Finally figured out how to get that working in Pan (Linux). Nice watching
all those "LIBRULS ARE" messages and threads just up and vanish...
This is where pan's annoying me. Killfile a troll & each thread turns
into multiple threads, one for each response.
It doesn't let you score on the Newsgroups header. Having a score
for each troll subject is going to get slow pretty quickly.
I started with usenet in a line mode on a Unox time sharing system.
Probably the most basic newsreader called rn. Which would let you
killfile on a string anywhere in the text, not just in specific
headers.
There's nothing like that in the windows world.
MacAfee spamkiller does that for email.
Has anybody worked out how to do this for usenet news?
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