On the other hand, if you are a Bushevik troll, then in the immortal
floor-of-the-Senate words of the unloved ***** Cheney: "Go ***** yourself."
That mentality goes a long way towards explaining blather like this:

Up to this point, it was a excellent post. I really don't care if you
like my style or not, Doorman, but 'Go ***** yourself' is exactly the
kind of thing I don't agree with. It has no place in intelligent
debate. Why is it mostly Kerry supporters who do it?

"Doorman" <spam@hyde.park.sc> wrote in message news:<416a8c9c$0$2567$44c9b20d@news3.asahi-net.or.jp>...

If you are a fellow American patriot and lover of the First Amendment, then
by these presents greetings. It is good that you seek rational and
democratic discussion of the great and urgent issues facing our nation.
Unfortunately, I think you've come to the wrong place. See the bottom of
this post for additional evidence--but this entire enormous thread is
dedicated to the display of the freshest original parts of such disruptive
anti-democratic tripe. With the witless assistance of the Bushevik trolls,
it only took a short time to build this "tower of babble".

Especially if you remember the old days of rational discussion in the
newsgroups, this triumph of noise over signal may sadden you. Hyde Park of
the world and cheap advertising are all that remain.

However, there are still alternatives. For example, there are many moderated
forums on the Internet where civil discussions and real conversations can be
found. Even better if you can build bridges to real people in the physical
world. For example, you could treat a rational RINO to a movie--like
Fahrenheit 9/11. Lots of good books still being published, or you could
write a letter to the editor for your local paper--you'll reach more real
people and have more impact than here. Or you could donate to the political
campaigns--I confess I've already made six donations. Just remember that big
money is harming democracy, that BushCo has more money than anyone, and that
if money alone decides elections then the American republic is already dead.

Last, but MOST important: VOTE! Your nation needs you NOW!

On the other hand, if you are a Bushevik troll, then in the immortal
floor-of-the-Senate words of the unloved ***** Cheney: "Go ***** yourself."
That mentality goes a long way towards explaining blather like this:

Up to this point, it was a excellent post. I really don't care if you
like my style or not, Doorman, but 'Go ***** yourself' is exactly the
kind of thing I don't agree with. It has no place in intelligent
debate. Why is it mostly Kerry supporters who do it?

DJYahtzee <GGroups.20.djyatman@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
<old stuff snip>

Almost, but not quite, name calling. We Bushies need to stand above
the name calling and profanity if the Kerry-ites.

By the way, your signature of Kerry Accomplishments; Right on! Kerry
has been a traitor his whole life, perverting his professed
idolization of John Kennedy. If he is elected President, (not by MY
vote), the patriot act policies will seem like a lark compared to
the
influence France and Russia will have on our policies. The real JFK
was a real war hero and didn't wimp out after four months, and he
certainly wouldn't give Russia a veto vote.

[This one is *REALLY* funny in the contradiction between his first and
second paragraphs.]

It does kind of flip-flop, doesn't it? What I meant is personal
attacks against posters, which you poluted an otherwise excellent post
by doing. I mean people who's main contribution to the topic is to
call the other posters '***** wit' and '***** hole' and say things like
'Go ***** yourself'.

The words 'liar' and 'traitor' that I used against Kerry hardly fit
the category, but I will try to avoid them in the future if you will
please not tell me to 'Go ***** myself'.

--
We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.

True, but neither would Al Gore have stopped it if he had won in 2000.
Nor Clinton, for that matter. No president would have allowed it to
happen if he could have stopped it.

You want steady leadership for disastrous change?

Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.

The lie and spin accusations can be aimed at Kerry, too. And now he
seems to claim he will find and kill all terrorists, so I guess attack
can be included in there, too. Learning more and more about Kerry is
what changed me from a 35 year Democrat to a Republican.

Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)