Danbury Conn, The Irony that perhaps no one notices
(1) Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
(2) You have to give credit to the other side, they know how to use
symbolism. Maybe that is why they are current;y ahead in this 200+ year
long war.
http://news.newstimeslive.com/story.php?id=82471&category=Local
Neo-Nazis say they're coming to Danbury
By Elizabeth Putnam THE NEWS-TIMES
A rally calling for an end to the separation of church and state is
expected to draw hundreds to downtown Danbury on Tuesday, including members
of a neo-Nazi group who plan to wear swastikas on their black jackets.
Minutemen United, an Ohio-based Christian organization, is holding the
rally Tuesday afternoon, because "the wall between the separation of church
and state must be torn down," the group's leader and founder Dave
Daubenmire said Wednesday.
Minutemen United expects up to 300 people at the event on the Danbury
Green, but that number could increase as word of the rally spreads. Members
of other organizations that advocate unity between religion and government
say they plan to attend.
The Grey Wolves, a Northeast-based white supremacist group loosely
affiliated with the Christian Identity Movement, will bring three busloads
of people to the rally, Rick Renage, Grey Wolves spokesman, said Wednesday.
Renage read about the rally at NewsTimesLive.com, The News-Times' Web site,
which posted information Wednesday afternoon about the event.
"We just want to show our solidarity with the churches who are sponsoring
this activity," Renage said.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization known for its
battles with white supremacists and its tracking of extremist groups across
the country, could not confirm whether the Grey Wolves is a hate group.
Still, Frank Caporale, a non-denominational Christian from Danbury who is
helping to organize the rally, told Renage not to attend.
"This is not a demonstration. This is a solemn assembly," Caporale said.
"This is religious, not political. I want people from all walks of life to
feel comfortable attending."
Renage said his group will not cause any trouble.
"I, personally, am not looking for any confrontations, but if we are
provoked, we will react very strongly," he said in an e-mail to The
News-Times.
[snip]
President Bush has sparked controversy over whether the government should
provide funding for faith-based social service organizations. Some
Christian public officials have butted heads with the courts over the
posting of the Ten Commandments in government buildings.
Daubenmire said he wanted to spotlight these issues and decided to hold a
rally in Danbury because of the city's historical significance.
After the Revolutionary War, local government still had Congregationalist
preachers on the payroll. In protest, the Danbury Baptist Association wrote
a letter in 1801 to then-President Thomas Jefferson asking him to help,
said Bob Young, a researcher at the Danbury Historical Society who helped
Daubenmire study the city's history.
In response, Jefferson wrote a letter that included the phrase "wall of
separation between church and state."
"Jefferson's intent was never to keep God out of government," said
Daubenmire, who picked Tuesday for the rally because it's the 231st
anniversary of Paul Revere's famous midnight ride.
Jefferson's intentions and what the Founding Fathers saw for the new nation
is the subject of much debate and the topic of many books.
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National Rally on Separation of Church and State--April 18 in Danbury,
Conn.
http://www.earnedmedia.org/mmu0411.htm
National Rally on Separation of Church and State--April 18 in Danbury,
Conn.
“The time has come to tear down the false Wall of Separation of Church &
State constructed by a secular Supreme Court during the past 60 years.” --
Minister Bob Cutting
To: National & State Desks
Contact: Coach Dave Daubenmire, National Director of Minutemen United and
Founder of Pass the Salt Ministries, 740-507-3211; Minister Pastor Bob
Cutting, New England Coordinator, 203-778-2672.
DANBURY, Conn., April 11 /Christian Wire Service/ -- A Columbus, Ohio based
group, Minutemen United, will host a rally in Danbury, Connecticut, to
address the political, cultural and religious impact of the poorly titled
public policy of "separation between church and state."
National Rally on Separation of Church and State Details---
When: April 18, 4 - 7 PM (there will be several events prior to the rally,
see http://www.minutemenunited.com)
Where: City Center Green in Downtown Danbury. (Follow the signs for the
Downtown Dining District off Exit 5 of I-84).
Who: The rally will feature nationally acclaimed speakers: Bill Federer of
Amerisearch, Rev. Flip Benham of Operation Save America, Greg Thompson of
America Asleep kNOw More, Rev. Bob Schenck of National Clergy Council,
Rusty Thomas of Elijah Ministries, Coach Dave Daubenmire "Coach to the
Church" and Mike Heath of Christian Civic League of Maine.
Why: New England Regional Coordinator Pastor Bob Cutting declares, “The
time has come to tear down the false Wall of Separation of Church & State
constructed by a secular Supreme Court during the past 60 years. We have
witnessed the slow deterioration of religious freedoms under an antagonist
Supreme Court that has misinterpreted and misused the First Amendment to
effectively remove God from the public square. We have requested leaders
and citizens from around America to come to Danbury on the anniversary of
Paul Revere’s famous Freedom Ride, to pray and lay a new foundation stone
for the Wall of Separation as originally envisioned by the Founders.”
According to Coach Dave Daubenmire, founder of Minutemen United, “In 1801,
responding to a private letter from the Danbury Baptists, the phrase ‘wall
of separation of Church and state’ was penned by President Thomas Jefferson
in response to the Baptists' fear that the U. S. Government was going to
establish the Congregationalist Church as the official denomination of the
new nation. Jefferson's reference to a wall of separation of church and
state was a one way wall...a wall in which the government would have no say
in the affairs of the church. His statement, mis-characterized today, was
never intended to keep God out of Government.”
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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