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Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure. The victors must have their triumph,
plus the privilege of dictating the terms of peace as they see fit. If
this process does not occur, then there is no closing, no climacteric.
The war remains unended on the symbolic and psychological level, which
means, for all practical purposes, that it hasn't ended at all.
Victory goes a long way toward shaping a war. A mishandled victory
often leads to a failed peace. Consider WW I: the brutal provisions of
the 1919 Versailles Treaty, which humiliated Germany, made it
impossible for the Germans to recover in good order and set the stage
for the rise of Hitler. It also did nothing to redeem the anguish and
misery of the four years of the trenches, much less the 16 million-
plus dead.
Then turn to our own Civil War. During the last months, there was talk
among Rebel forces of refusing to surrender, of taking to the hills to
really make the Yankees bleed. That ended at Appomattox, in large part
due to two distinct gestures. The first by Grant who, distracted by
the gleam of Lee's sword, added a line to the surrender document
directing that "officers will retain their sidearms". The other was by
the legendary Joshua Chamberlain, at that time holding the rank of
brigadier general. As Confederate troops approached to lay down their
arms, Chamberlain ordered his men to salute as they passed. The Rebels
gazed back stunned for a moment, then returned the salute. That was
all it took. From that point on that war was over. Despite regional
tensions between the South and the rest of the country that continued
for a century, the thought of secession never seriously recurred.
Without a just ending, war is merely a parade of atrocities and
massacres, killer apes doing what killer apes have done for three
million years or more. It is the victor who gives shape to the ending,
who decides whether it will be yet another episode in the long
Halloween or something that partakes of the higher aspects of human
nature: mercy, honor, and reconciliation.
Which is why victory is hated by antiwar types, no matter what their
ideology and motivation. (This is not even to mention the agendas of
the hard left and the Democrats, which we don't have space to get
into.) They don't want war redeemed. Anything that lessens its
loathsome aspects makes it easier to view war as a possibility.
Victory is one of the failings of war that must be gotten rid of. But
of course, in any conflict (excepting wars of exhaustion, which we
don't often see) there will be winner and a loser. Victory can't be
denied to that extent. But the rituals, the salutes, the expressions
of respect and magnanimity, can be undermined. And so we get buried
victories.
A buried victory is one that has been downgraded and ignored, one that
has been hedged with so many qualifications and second thoughts that
it is scarcely a victory at all any longer. A buried victory is one
from which all the human aspects have been drained, and replaced -- if
that's the word -- with bureaucratic procedure.
We've seen this for fifty years or more. U.S. forces had effectively
secured most of South Vietnam by 1972. The Viet Cong had been a
nullity since being effectively wiped out during the Tet Offensive,
and the People's Army of North Vietnam had to a large extent been
chased across the borders into Cambodia and Laos. South Vietnam was a
stable political entity, and with adequate support could have remained
that way.
But the American left, for purely political reasons, portrayed the
situation as a defeat, and in a series of Congressional actions
through 1973 and 1974, cut off support for the Saigon government until
it was hanging by a string. It fell at last on April 30, 1975, after a
heroic final defense at the gates of the city.
In the years that followed, close to 3 million were murdered in
Southeast Asia.
In 1991, having wiped out the bulk of the Iraqi Army in a matter of
days, the U.S. contented itself with an incomplete victory. It
unilaterally brought the war to a close without demanding recognition
of defeat from the Iraqi military, and above all, from Saddam Hussein
and his Ba'ath Party. Instead of a clear victory, we were treated to
the spectacle of U.S. forces standing by while thousands of innocent
Shi'ites and Kurds were slaughtered. Twelve years later, we had to do
it all over again, under -- as we are all now well aware -- far more
difficult circumstances. (Being self-inflicted, this is another case
of Bush Senior adapting the ideas and behavior of his opposition --
"read my lips" in military form.)
(Compare those two incidents to the Grenada and Panama conflicts. In
both cases, the U.S. fought to the finish, destroyed enemy
capabilities, brought down the tyrannies, and remained to oversee the
reestablishment of civil government. Today both are free and
prosperous nations.)
But the most egregious example is the Cold War. Only those who lived
through the period have any clear idea of the miracle embodied in that
conflict's end. For decades, it was widely believed that the Cold War
could climax only with a universal catastrophe, or at least a paroxysm
that would leave tens of millions dead. But thanks to Reagan's
boldness and acumen, (and not to forget Gorbachev's humanity) it
closed without a single ICBM so much as quivering in its silo.
It was one of the great victories of the modern epoch, one of a trio
of defeats handed out to the enemies of human freedom during the 20th
century: absolutism, fascism, and at last, communism. A victory at the
highest levels of human endeavor, with nothing of the primitive or
brutish about it. "One of the great unsordid acts," as Churchill once
put it. At the same time, it was a victory of the common and workaday,
in which the average and unheralded individual shared as much in the
triumph as any general or diplomat or premier. A glance at the footage
of the destruction of the Berlin Wall will reveal as much.
And it was buried.
"Let's not engage in triumphalism," we were told by the media, by the
left, by the academics. "Let's not humiliate the Russians... Both
sides were at fault here." We were even told that "Now capitalism must
be defeated." As if capitalism ever built walls, or Gulags, or
massacred millions for the sake of demonstrating a theory.
In not taking its place as the rightful victor, the U.S. was unable to
mold the post-Cold War world as it molded Europe after WW II. Bush
Senior could talk all he liked about a "New World Order", but nothing
of the sort came into being. An individual transported to the present
from the mid-1980s would have no difficulty recognizing the world he
saw about him -- a belligerent Russia, a conniving and expansionist
China, a Latin America flirting for the hundredth time with Marxism,
an Africa on the skids. Even Burma in a state of political chaos.
The sole new aspect is the internationalization of religious terror by
the Jihadis. In 1989, the U.S. was given a once-in-a-century
opportunity to remake the global community in the manner of the Treaty
of Westphalia or the Congress of Vienna. We decided to be a New Age,
politically-correct country instead. Does anyone like the result?
Today we see a similar process occurring in Iraq and in the
Afghanistan/Pakistan arena. None of the achievements of the Coalition
or the Iraqis has gained more than momentary recognition. The purple
revolution, the elections, the reconstruction -- all have been
dismissed or ignored. What has replaced them is an endless chronicle
of suffering and destruction - of war without victory. (In what other
conflict would Arthur Chrenkoff's sorely-missed "good news from Iraq"
column have been necessary?)
The "Mission Accomplished" incident set the tone. George W. Bush's
appearance in a military flight suit beneath the banner bearing those
words was greeted with a storm of insults and mockery that grew more
frantic as the violence in Iraq failed to abate. Today, many believe
-- because they were led to believe -- that the banner was placed
there by the administration itself, in the kind of cowboy gesture
often ascribed to Bush, though seldom actually seen. In truth, it was
the work of the ship's crew, who had completed a difficult job with no
serious losses and were proud of the fact. This truth failed to get
across, and now it will never get across. There will be history books
a century from now explaining how Karl Rove put that banner up
personally.
Once burned, the administration -- along with other branches and
agencies of the government -- has been unwilling to claim any
accomplishments whatsoever. Saddam Hussein's capture passed without
much in the way of acknowledgment. (Quick -- what troops captured him
and how were they rewarded?) The same with the killing of Zarqawi and
numerous other incidents. Even when making a claim, government
spokesmen end with the same sorry whimper, "Of course -- we still have
a long way to go.... " providing the media with the precise peg they
need to hang their stories on.
And the media has obliged. News reports of Coalition or Iraqi
achievements became conventional, their form and content as invariable
as a Noh play. First would come the announcement of a Coalition
triumph -- the capture of an Al-Queda emir, the breakup of a bombing
ring -- written in what amounted to a dull monotone. Then the
counterpoint: how many bombs went off that day, how many civilians had
been killed, how many troops (always ending with the number added to
the war's overall total). This part was usually longer than the first,
and often enlivened by quotes, eyewitness reportage, and local color,
in contrast to the dull prose of the "official news". So each
announcement of a triumph was accompanied by its own negation. A
narrative has been created in which the impression of victories simply
could not occur
Now we're achieving the real thing, on the most massive scale. The
major element of the "insurrection" (an unsatisfactory term, but does
anyone have one better?), the Al-Queda, is being chewed to pieces. The
new "surge" strategy -- actually a classic counterinsurgency strategy
similar to that utilized in the final years in Vietnam -- has proven
itself as clearly as any on record. The enemy has been unable to
respond, and is on the run wherever engaged. The Sunnis have been
coming over in ever-increasing numbers, fulfilling one of the basic
requirements of a successful counterinsurgency effort: the full
cooperation of the civilian population. A serious reconciliation has
been blooming between the newly-dominant Shi'ites and Sunni minority.
Barring unforeseen setbacks, the Coalition appears to be set to
prevail. (A number of critics newly cognizant of counterinsurgency are
pointing out that it takes years for such an effort to succeed,
overlooking the unique aspects of the Iraq situation: the
"insurrection" is actually a form of invasion by outside forces,
namely Al-Queda. Destroy them, end the invasion, and the
"insurrection" becomes a matter of bandits and diehards, easily
handled by domestic Iraqi troops.)
And how is all this being depicted? It isn't. Early coverage of the
surge emphasized how it could go wrong. A "September surprise", a
sudden rise in casualties prior to General Petreaus's report to
Congress, was predicted. Discord between Iraq factions was emphasized.
Several Jihadi "offensives" were announced. None of it came to
anything. No "surprise" occurred. The factions are, for the moment,
reconciled. Al-Queda offensives, if they ever existed, fizzled out.
And in recent weeks... almost nothing. Suddenly, Iraq is not a topic.
Achievements in the field have gone unmentioned in a media that
couldn't get enough of car bombs, IEDs, massacres, and assassinations.
The focus has shifted to the domestic: the endless campaign, bogus
"health-care" bills, Al Gore's latest prize. If Iraq is mentioned at
all, it's in the context of scandal, as in the Blackwater shooting
incident, quite serious in and of itself, but nothing to overshadow
the events of the past three months. It's as if news of Pvt. Eddie
Slovik's execution overwhelmed any mention of the Allied advance into
Germany.
We will see more of this. Last Friday, the New York Times, which has
granted no meaningful coverage to the surge, featured no less than
three stories dealing with civilian casualties. Reportage of a speech
by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez ignored his criticism of the media's role
in Iraq (or the fact that he calls for redoubling our efforts there),
in favor of his attacks on the administration's war efforts. Last week
the UN demanded not greater support for the newly-invigorated Iraqi
government, but an investigation into the Blackwater incident.
There are muted lanterns in the graveyard, the clink of shovels on
gravel. Victory in Iraq, one of the hardest-fought in recent American
history, is being buried before our eyes.
This is unacceptable. American victories are not those of a Tamerlane
piling up skulls, of SS units reveling in genocide. As Victor Davis
Hanson revealed in his classic study, The Soul of Battle, American
wars are fought to free the enslaved, to punish the tyrant, to set
right what has been overturned. American victories are nothing to be
ashamed of.
Pacifist opposition to victory in war is a case of misapplied idealism
creating more of the very horrors it decries. A war not properly ended
simply engenders more conflicts and creates more misery.
If war is useful for anything, it is for solving intractable problems
completely and finally. Victory is a key element of this. Victories
that are not victories, but simply cessations of combat, will always
end up being only temporary.
They used to ring bells, the bells of churches, in both thanksgiving
and celebration when a war ended victoriously. We don't do that
anymore. But we do need to discover the equivalent for the new
millennium. The rituals that will enable us to reclaim victory, and
with it a lost portion of our humanity.
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16 Oct 2007 07:49:31 PM |
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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16 Oct 2007 06:17:04 PM |
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their heads
to grant us victory?
Heads of state can do it, but we're not fighting one.
A soldier can do it, but he only speaks for himself.
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
I'm serious.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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16 Oct 2007 08:10:29 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:17:04 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1192569769.518096.58000@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their heads
to grant us victory?
Victory? Like the one we had in Nam?
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
Bush's and Cheney's. On Guillotines.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
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16 Oct 2007 08:40:52 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:17:04 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their
heads
to grant us victory?
Victory? Like the one we had in Nam?
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
Bush's and Cheney's. On Guillotines.
And, as someone once said:
A regular army loses by not winning;
An insurgent army wins by not losing..."
M.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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16 Oct 2007 09:42:20 PM |
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"AtheistMainstream" <AtheistMainstream@Niche.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:17:04 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their
heads
to grant us victory?
Victory? Like the one we had in Nam?
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
Bush's and Cheney's. On Guillotines.
And, as someone once said:
A regular army loses by not winning;
An insurgent army wins by not losing..."
Excellently put!
Too bad Kurt can't understand that.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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17 Oct 2007 06:52:20 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:42:20 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"AtheistMainstream" <AtheistMainstream@Niche.com> wrote in message news:EKdRi.5733$7a2.4115@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:26oah31v78dnsvnp9j33sn4tl4vpik3er3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:17:04 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:1192569769.518096.58000@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their
heads to grant us victory?
Victory? Like the one we had in Nam?
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
Bush's and Cheney's. On Guillotines.
And, as someone once said:
A regular army loses by not winning;
An insurgent army wins by not losing..."
Excellently put!
Too bad Kurt can't understand that.
Kurt may be mentally deficient due to malnourishment,
toxin damage, poor socialization, and a lack of quality
education available to him.
Bush and Cheney hope more Americans will be too sick
and weak to resist their fascist assault on the USA.
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17 Oct 2007 09:02:57 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:40:52 GMT, "AtheistMainstream"
<AtheistMainstream@Niche.com> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:17:04 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1192569769.518096.58000@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure.
So who, exactly, in this current conflict, do you see as bowing their
heads
to grant us victory?
Victory? Like the one we had in Nam?
Who's head needs to be bowed for us to claim victory?
Bush's and Cheney's. On Guillotines.
And, as someone once said:
A regular army loses by not winning;
An insurgent army wins by not losing..."
And a guerilla army wins.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"I've never had a problem with pollution. If God didn't want smoke in the air,
he wouldn't have told us to burn witches."
- Stephen Colbert
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16 Oct 2007 09:15:44 PM |
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Besides Lee, we know Generals Grant and Chamberlain showed 'Class."
Both Confederate and Union troops displayed and responded to 'Class.'
Unfortunately, today's Democrats have no class.
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| User: "Bill Dukenfield" |
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17 Oct 2007 12:11:58 PM |
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Docky Wocky wrote:
Besides Lee, we know Generals Grant and Chamberlain showed 'Class."
Both Confederate and Union troops displayed and responded to 'Class.'
Unfortunately, today's Democrats have no class.
Yes, the republicans have class, too bad it's low class.
JAM
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Oct 2007 01:43:11 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:15:44 GMT, "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net>
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Besides Lee, we know Generals Grant and Chamberlain showed 'Class."
Both Confederate and Union troops displayed and responded to 'Class.'
Unfortunately, today's Democrats have no class.
They're just following the lead of The Leader. He's trying to create
a classless society. What can you expect from a Legacy who was gifted
with a gentleman's C?
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Al at Webdingers dot com
"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example
of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved --
the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
- John Adams
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| User: "Bill Dukenfield" |
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17 Oct 2007 12:08:58 PM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure. The victors must have their triumph,
plus the privilege of dictating the terms of peace as they see fit. If
this process does not occur, then there is no closing, no climacteric.
The war remains unended on the symbolic and psychological level, which
means, for all practical purposes, that it hasn't ended at all.
We won the war in Iraq years ago.
There are no longer WMD in Iraq, there never were any.
We deposed and killed Saddam Hussein.
We set up a puppet government.
The Iraqi people are free to determine there own future.
Why are we still there?
JAM
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Oct 2007 05:16:41 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:08:58 -0400, Bill Dukenfield
<BillDukenfield@nospam.net> wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure. The victors must have their triumph,
plus the privilege of dictating the terms of peace as they see fit. If
this process does not occur, then there is no closing, no climacteric.
The war remains unended on the symbolic and psychological level, which
means, for all practical purposes, that it hasn't ended at all.
We won the war in Iraq years ago.
There are no longer WMD in Iraq, there never were any.
We deposed and killed Saddam Hussein.
We set up a puppet government.
The Iraqi people are free to determine there own future.
Why are we still there?
There's still some money left in the treasury.
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Al at Webdingers dot com
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to
the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his
children smart.
- H. L. Mencken
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16 Oct 2007 08:13:26 PM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Buried Victories
By J.R. Dunn
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/buried_victories.html
A war's end has its necessary rituals. The defeated must bow their
heads and acknowledge failure. The victors must have their triumph,
plus the privilege of dictating the terms of peace as they see fit. If
this process does not occur, then there is no closing, no climacteric.
The war remains unended on the symbolic and psychological level, which
means, for all practical purposes, that it hasn't ended at all.
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There are probably many fewer anti-war Americans than
you think, if you are speaking of war in general. But there are
a lot of Americans who oppose the war in Iraq because it is a
waste of resources being spent in the chasing of phantoms.
But don't worry: the U.S. is going to get yet a lot more
war to fight.
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17 Oct 2007 01:41:33 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:13:26 -0400, Front Office
<YoMo.nospam@erols.com> wrote:
There are probably many fewer anti-war Americans than
you think, if you are speaking of war in general. But there are
a lot of Americans who oppose the war in Iraq because it is a
waste of resources being spent in the chasing of phantoms.
Close. Chasing of welfare for the chosen few.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Given that you exist and that you are aware of your situation and
surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
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