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User: "Xomicron"
Date: 11 Apr 2004 02:17:01 PM
Object: Darwin was full of crap
Survival of the fittest?
Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the other
Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and unicorns? I
thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's why we
have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers, mountainlionpeckers or
peckerpeckers anymore.
.

User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 12:10:08 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out

of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the other
Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and unicorns?

I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's why

we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers, mountainlionpeckers or
peckerpeckers anymore.

Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker is
probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the general
pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called "modern
science", which despite all its self-serving blustering propaganda is
almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and demise of
the creatures of this planet.
Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more, each
ten times worse than the original.
.
User: "maff"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 05:00:01 PM
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out

of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the other
Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and unicorns?

I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's why

we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers, mountainlionpeckers or
peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker is
probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the general
pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called "modern
science", which despite all its self-serving blustering propaganda is
almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and demise of
the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more, each
ten times worse than the original.

Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the Klan are atheists?
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 05:47:03 PM
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred

out

of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?

I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's

why

we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker is
probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called "modern
science", which despite all its self-serving blustering propaganda

is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the Klan

are atheists?
If there is something more important to them than loving God and keeping
His commandments, then they are atheists.
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 10:02:22 PM
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred

out

of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?

I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's

why

we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker is
probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called "modern
science", which despite all its self-serving blustering propaganda

is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and keeping
His commandments, then they are atheists.

I wonder if you're even aware of what a complete
ignoramus you are. Even if you are just a troll, you
are full of hate. That's so sad. What a waste of
human skin you are.
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 12:18:01 AM
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic

woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner.

If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been

bred

out

of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?

I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff.

That's

why

we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker

is

probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called

"modern

science", which despite all its self-serving blustering

propaganda

is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the

Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and

keeping

His commandments, then they are atheists.

I wonder if you're even aware of what a complete
ignoramus you are. Even if you are just a troll, you
are full of hate. That's so sad. What a waste of
human skin you are.

Get over it, porky.
.


User: "maff"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 03:48:16 AM
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred

out
of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?
I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's

why
we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker is
probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called "modern
science", which despite all its self-serving blustering propaganda

is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and keeping
His commandments, then they are atheists.

They certainly aren't atheists. Confederates, Bible Belt
fundamentalists and the Klan are the biggest supporters of Bush and
Jefferson Davis.
"My correspondent thinks with Mr. Jefferson, that Jehovah has no
attributes that will harmonize with slavery; and that all men are born
free and equal. Now, I say let him throw away his Bible as Mr.
Jefferson did his and then they will be fit companions. But never
disgrace the Bible by making Mr. Jefferson its expounder, nor Mr.
Jefferson by deriving his sentiments from it. Mr. Jefferson did not
bow to the authority of the Bible, and on this subject I do not bow to
him."
[Rev. Thornton Stringfellow, D.D., in "Scriptural View of Slavery," a
work showing that the Bible sanctions slavery, from John E. Remsburg,
"Six Historic Americans. Chapter 2: Thomas Jefferson"]
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_remsburg/six_historic_americans/chapter_2.html
"The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy
Scriptures, both by precept and example."
[Rev. R. Furman, D.D., Baptist, of South Carolina]
"There is not one verse in the Bible inhibiting slavery, but many
regulating it. It is not then, we conclude, immoral."
[Rev. Alexander Campbell]
"The extracts from Holy Writ unequivocally assert the right of
property in slaves."
[Rev. E.D. Simms, professor, Randolph-Macon College]
"I draw my warrant from the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments
to hold the slave in bondage."
[Rev. Thomas Witherspoon, Presbyterian, of Alabama]
"In another area of human rights, many Christian clergymen advocated
slavery. Historian Larry Hise notes in his book 'Pro-Slavery' that
ministers 'wrote almost half of all defenses of slavery published in
America.' He lists 275 men of the cloth who used the Bible to prove
that white people were entitled to own black people as work animals."
[James A. Haught, 'Holy Horrors']
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0879755784/
"The delegates of the annual conference are decidedly opposed to
modern abolitionism, and wholly disclaim any right, wish, or intention
to interfere in the civil and political relation between master and
slave in the slave-holding states of the union."
[Methodist Episcopal Church, Statement of the General Conference,
Cincinnati, May 1836]
Slavery, segregation and the Bible
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=36717622.38996%40news.ala.net
http://www.dovelink.com/News/archives/Feb1999/Feb161999.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_slav.htm
http://www.commonlink.com/~chiron_rising/race/inter.html
http://www.multiracial.com/projects/hallofshame.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_mar3.htm
http://www.webcom.com/~intvoice/add_site.html
http://dir.yahoo.com/Arts/Humanities/History/U_S__History/Slavery/
http://dir.yahoo.com/Arts/Humanities/History/By_Subject/Slavery/Atlantic_Slave_Trade/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/Subject=Slavery/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/Subject=Segregation/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/Subject=Lynching/
Slavery
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Slavery&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Slavery&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Slavery&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Slavery&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
Lynching
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Lynching&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Lynching&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Lynching&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Lynching&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
Segregation
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Segregation&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Segregation&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Segregation&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Segregation&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
Jim Crow
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Jim+Crow%22&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Jim+Crow%22&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Jim+Crow%22&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Jim%20Crow&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 03:54:55 AM
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic

woodpecker

outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner.

If

Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been

bred

out
of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?
I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff.

That's

why
we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker

is

probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called

"modern

science", which despite all its self-serving blustering

propaganda

is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the

Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and

keeping

His commandments, then they are atheists.


They certainly aren't atheists. Confederates, Bible Belt
fundamentalists and the Klan are the biggest supporters of Bush and
Jefferson Davis.

Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more important
than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.
<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>
.
User: "Frank Pericope"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 02:54:35 PM
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<snip>

Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more important
than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>

Tell me, are those who love the letter rather than the spirit, as you
appear to, atheists--or just garden variety literalists trapped in
their own spew?
- F.
Among the other questions you refuse to answer, perhaps because *any*
answer would betray your ignorance and bigotry and the complete and
utter corruption that is at the heart of your posts:
What was the "natural use" of Adam's penis and his testicles prior to
Eve's creation--or do you assert they were they tacked on later?
Is interracial marriage against your view of 'natural law'?
When will you be starting a "Debate over allowing heterosexuals to eat
shrimp" thread?
Which foods consumed for "sense gratification" would you outlaw? All
dessert, or just some?
And what label, besides "Pharisee" (which you've been unable to squirm
out of; see http://tinyurl.com/2xawl), would you prefer we apply to
you, based on your self-righteous law-giving behavior?
Or are you just going to dodge these questions yet again?
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 03:17:23 PM
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<snip>

Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more

important

than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>


Tell me, are those who love the letter rather than the spirit, as you
appear to, atheists--or just garden variety literalists trapped in
their own spew?

Atheists love something more than they love God. For example, you love
your imaginary "letter" and "spirit" dichotomy more than you love God.
.
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Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 14 Apr 2004 12:27:11 PM
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<snip>

Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more

important

than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>


Tell me, are those who love the letter rather than the spirit, as you
appear to, atheists--or just garden variety literalists trapped in
their own spew?


Atheists love something more than they love God. For example, you love
your imaginary "letter" and "spirit" dichotomy more than you love God.

Bzzzzt! Sorry, wrong; I'm not an atheist. I'm a follower of Christ,
unlike you, apparently. But thanks for playing, Pharisee.
Next?
- F.
.



User: "maff"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 02:52:15 PM
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic

woodpecker
outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner.

If
Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been

bred

out
of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and

unicorns?
I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff.

That's

why
we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your woodpecker

is

probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called

"modern

science", which despite all its self-serving blustering

propaganda
is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and the

Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and

keeping

His commandments, then they are atheists.


They certainly aren't atheists. Confederates, Bible Belt
fundamentalists and the Klan are the biggest supporters of Bush and
Jefferson Davis.


Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more important
than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>

Atheists certainly don't invoke God.
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 03:14:40 PM
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic

woodpecker
outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air

conditioner.

If
Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have

been

bred

out
of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of

the

other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos

and

unicorns?
I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff.

That's

why
we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your

woodpecker

is

probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to

the

general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called

"modern

science", which despite all its self-serving blustering

propaganda
is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination

and

demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten

more,

each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and

the

Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and

keeping

His commandments, then they are atheists.


They certainly aren't atheists. Confederates, Bible Belt
fundamentalists and the Klan are the biggest supporters of Bush

and

Jefferson Davis.


Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more

important

than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>


Atheists certainly don't invoke God.

They certainly do. They use the name of God for all sorts of mischief.
In fact, that's one definition of atheism: to misuse (and by so doing to
deny) the power of the name of God.
.
User: "maff"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 14 Apr 2004 04:03:46 AM
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic

woodpecker
outside my

bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air

conditioner.

If
Darwin is

right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have

been
bred

out
of

this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of

the
other

Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos

and

unicorns?
I

thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff.

That's

why
we

have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers,

mountainlionpeckers or

peckerpeckers anymore.


Darwin was full of crap. That's true. However, your

woodpecker
is

probably innocent, and suffering from brain damage due to

the
general

pollution created by the atheistic philosophy of so-called

"modern

science", which despite all its self-serving blustering

propaganda
is

almost entirely responsible for the degradation, ruination

and
demise of

the creatures of this planet.

Every time the atheists solve a "problem", they create ten

more,
each

ten times worse than the original.


Are you claiming Confederates, Bible Belt fundamentalists and

the
Klan

are atheists?

If there is something more important to them than loving God and

keeping

His commandments, then they are atheists.


They certainly aren't atheists. Confederates, Bible Belt
fundamentalists and the Klan are the biggest supporters of Bush

and

Jefferson Davis.


Those who consider following "Bush and Jefferson Davis" more

important

than loving God and keeping His commandments are certainly atheists.

<snip a lot of quotes about things other than God>


Atheists certainly don't invoke God.


They certainly do. They use the name of God for all sorts of mischief.
In fact, that's one definition of atheism: to misuse (and by so doing to
deny) the power of the name of God.

So why don't you appear before the courts, fundamentalist bearer of false witness?
.








User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 02:34:48 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird?

Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air
conditioners have only been around for the last 50 years or so, and that's
not long enough for a significant evolutionary adaptation to take place.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 03:06:13 PM
Denis Loubet wrote:


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird?


Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air
conditioners have only been around for the last 50 years or so, and that's
not long enough for a significant evolutionary adaptation to take place.

Besides, one of the reasons that woodpeckers peck is to make noise to
advertise their presence. He may just be a heavy metal woodpecker.
--
John Popelish
.
User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 04:52:51 PM
In sci.skeptic, John Popelish
<jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote
on Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:06:13 -0400
<4079A535.2D6DFF83@rica.net>:

Denis Loubet wrote:


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird?


Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air
conditioners have only been around for the last 50 years or so, and that's
not long enough for a significant evolutionary adaptation to take place.


Besides, one of the reasons that woodpeckers peck is to make noise to
advertise their presence. He may just be a heavy metal woodpecker.

Great, an AC/DC beak-pounder. :-)
--
#191,

It's still legal to go .sigless.
.
User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 11:39:56 PM
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in message news:<u4qok1-dol.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>...

In sci.skeptic, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote

Besides, one of the reasons that woodpeckers peck is to make noise to
advertise their presence. He may just be a heavy metal woodpecker.


Great, an AC/DC beak-pounder. :-)

The origin of the term, 'head banger'.
--
John Popelish
.
User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 11:00:13 AM
In sci.skeptic, John Popelish
<jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote
on 11 Apr 2004 21:39:56 -0700
<855a1a14.0404112039.23112420@posting.google.com>:

The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in message news:<u4qok1-dol.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>...

In sci.skeptic, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote


Besides, one of the reasons that woodpeckers peck is to make noise to
advertise their presence. He may just be a heavy metal woodpecker.


Great, an AC/DC beak-pounder. :-)


The origin of the term, 'head banger'.

At least he has *two* fans... :-) (One innie, one outie...)
--
#191,
-- although probably zero sense
It's still legal to go .sigless.
.




User: "John M Price PhD"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 05:47:00 PM
In sci.skeptic article <Y4ednYVM2PlKAOTdRVn-jg@io.com> Denis Loubet <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
: "Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
: news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...
: > Survival of the fittest?
: >
: > Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
: > bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
: > right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
: > this bird?
: Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air
I think you're speaking out of class here.
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 12 Apr 2004 01:38:06 AM
"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
news:4079cae4$0$90475$d368eab@news.calweb.com...

In sci.skeptic article <Y4ednYVM2PlKAOTdRVn-jg@io.com> Denis Loubet

<dloubet@io.com> wrote:


: "Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
: news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...
: > Survival of the fittest?
: >
: > Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker

outside my

: > bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If

Darwin is

: > right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out

of

: > this bird?

: Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air

I think you're speaking out of class here.

Dammit, yes. Yes I am.
Curses!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 11 Apr 2004 02:43:55 PM
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:34:48 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird?


Well, you see, evolution in mammals takes a very, very long time. Air
conditioners have only been around for the last 50 years or so, and that's
not long enough for a significant evolutionary adaptation to take place.

Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet

Howdja do that...you said what I was thinking...and with only 17
minutes turnaround time! Well met! Of course the christers will point
out that woodpeckers aren't mammals, therefore avoiding the point,
like they do. So, you're banging your head against...well...an air
conditioner!
--
zamboni
#2139
Chief Denigrator of Theists
.


User: "Danny Kodicek"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 04:06:07 AM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94C89B8AD9BF1xomicron@0.0.0.3...

Survival of the fittest?

Right now, as I'm typing this, I've got some idiotic woodpecker outside my
bedroom window banging it's brains out on my air conditioner. If Darwin is
right how could this sort of idiotic behavior not have been bred out of
this bird? How did this species not go the way of some of the other
Brainiacs of the Animal Kingdom like Triceratops, dodos and unicorns? I
thought natural selection took care of this sort of stuff. That's why we
have woodpeckers but we don't have rockpeckers, mountainlionpeckers or
peckerpeckers anymore.

I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the animal
kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature which
seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose preferred
method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and several
chinese characters.
Danny
.
User: "john enockson"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 05:19:46 AM


I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the animal
kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature which
seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose preferred
method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and several
chinese characters.

Danny


They eat and they reproduce. What more do they need to do? Matt Giwer
however has no reason to continue.
.
User: "Danny Kodicek"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 05:48:24 AM
"john enockson" <jenockson@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:69Pec.66854$z%1.55495@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the

animal

kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature which
seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose

preferred

method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and several
chinese characters.

Danny


They eat and they reproduce. What more do they need to do? Matt Giwer
however has no reason to continue.

:)
Obviously I wasn't seriously suggesting that they *were* a disproof of
Darwin. But it's still a mystery to me how they survive long enough to
reproduce. Not that I've ever done even a second's study into the lifetime
of the crane fly. But they just *seem* so useless - and surely they're
extraordinarily easy prey for even the dimmest bird (my cats like them too).
An animal that exists only to be lunch...
Another example of strangely poor adaptations is the goldfish: 'Hmm, that
looks tasty, I'm going to eat it. Hmm, that looks tasty, I'm going to eat
it. Hmm, that looks tasty, I'm going to eat it. Oh dear, I'm dead.'
Danny
.
User: "Reanimation"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 08:35:16 AM
goldfish have been bred for thousands of years already. Thousands of
years ago, goldfish were probably like any other fish, but humans
started breeding them for other purposes, and thus they developed
features which were not suitable for their survival. Like for
example, chickens are probably even worse than goldfish, and they
would die almost immediately if they were released. That is because
humand bred chickens for their needs - to be fat and unable to fly.
.


User: "uncleward"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 04:08:35 PM
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:19:46 GMT, john enockson <jenockson@wi.rr.com>
wrote:



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the animal
kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature which
seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose preferred
method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and several
chinese characters.

Danny

I suspect that human beings, held to this odd standard, mighht well be
discarded.
ward



They eat and they reproduce. What more do they need to do? Matt Giwer
however has no reason to continue.

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User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 06:09:08 PM
"uncleward" <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:19:46 GMT, john enockson <jenockson@wi.rr.com>
wrote:



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the

animal

kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature

which

seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose

preferred

method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and

several

chinese characters.

Danny


I suspect that human beings, held to this odd standard, mighht well be
discarded.

ward

What I find amusing about Darwinists is their general world view - that
all phenomena are primarily existing to serve as "evidence" for
atheistic "theories", and if any phenomenon cannot be somehow screwed
into an impersonal, mechanistic "theory", then it is seen as
"purposeless", or "meaningless", or "anomalous", or it is ignored
altogether, or is even claimed not to exist at all!.
Fascinating: the funded-by-taxpayers-at-the-point-of-a-gun academic
tower of Babel, making a name for itself at your expense!
.
User: "Poster Boy"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 06:42:48 PM
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:09:08 GMT, "Chris Devol" <xyz@defghijk.lmn>
wrote:

"uncleward" <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2mlo705ms68dotfajfthte2ft1i2ue98an@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:19:46 GMT, john enockson <jenockson@wi.rr.com>
wrote:



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in the

animal

kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A creature

which

seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and whose

preferred

method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and

several

chinese characters.

Danny


I suspect that human beings, held to this odd standard, mighht well be
discarded.

ward


What I find amusing about Darwinists is their general world view - that
all phenomena are primarily existing to serve as "evidence" for
atheistic "theories", and if any phenomenon cannot be somehow screwed
into an impersonal, mechanistic "theory", then it is seen as
"purposeless", or "meaningless", or "anomalous", or it is ignored
altogether, or is even claimed not to exist at all!.

Fascinating: the funded-by-taxpayers-at-the-point-of-a-gun academic
tower of Babel, making a name for itself at your expense!

That's right, by golly. Before you know it they're going to be saying
the world isn't flat! Or that the earth isn't the centre of the
universe! The blasphemous fools! And the audacity of these people to
actually *demand* evidence, let alone repeatable, verifiable evidence!
Obvious lunatics. Who needs proof when you have the bible? Right?
Science is only a tower of babel to those who have not learned the
language of logic and the scientific method. My experience is that
this knowledge is in short supply amongst fundies. Indeed, few
fundies who learn logic and the scientific method stay fundies for
very long, which might explain why fundies are so intent on trying to
suppress it in our schools.
.
User: "Chris Devol"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 07:04:35 PM
"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:osto70pviu1gvt7pmqsdr7s4jvt9b0tdio@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:09:08 GMT, "Chris Devol" <xyz@defghijk.lmn>
wrote:

"uncleward" <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2mlo705ms68dotfajfthte2ft1i2ue98an@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:19:46 GMT, john enockson

<jenockson@wi.rr.com>

wrote:



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in

the

animal

kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A

creature

which

seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and

whose

preferred

method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and

several

chinese characters.

Danny


I suspect that human beings, held to this odd standard, mighht well

be

discarded.

ward


What I find amusing about Darwinists is their general world view -

that

all phenomena are primarily existing to serve as "evidence" for
atheistic "theories", and if any phenomenon cannot be somehow screwed
into an impersonal, mechanistic "theory", then it is seen as
"purposeless", or "meaningless", or "anomalous", or it is ignored
altogether, or is even claimed not to exist at all!.

Fascinating: the funded-by-taxpayers-at-the-point-of-a-gun academic
tower of Babel, making a name for itself at your expense!


That's right, by golly. Before you know it they're going to be saying
the world isn't flat! Or that the earth isn't the centre of the
universe! The blasphemous fools! And the audacity of these people to
actually *demand* evidence, let alone repeatable, verifiable evidence!
Obvious lunatics. Who needs proof when you have the bible? Right?

Science is only a tower of babel to those who have not learned the
language of logic and the scientific method. My experience is that
this knowledge is in short supply amongst fundies. Indeed, few
fundies who learn logic and the scientific method stay fundies for
very long, which might explain why fundies are so intent on trying to
suppress it in our schools.

Funny, I didn't use the word "science" at all, yet you assumed it. So,
who has a problem with the "language of logic" and the "scientific
method"?
.
User: "Poster Boy"

Title: Re: Darwin was full of crap 13 Apr 2004 07:48:16 PM
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:04:35 GMT, "Chris Devol" <xyz@defghijk.lmn>
wrote:

"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:osto70pviu1gvt7pmqsdr7s4jvt9b0tdio@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:09:08 GMT, "Chris Devol" <xyz@defghijk.lmn>
wrote:

"uncleward" <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2mlo705ms68dotfajfthte2ft1i2ue98an@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:19:46 GMT, john enockson

<jenockson@wi.rr.com>

wrote:



I've always thought that if there was one disproof of Darwin in

the

animal

kingdom it'd have to be the crane fly / daddy-longlegs. A

creature

which

seems to have no earthly reason to continue surviving - and

whose

preferred

method of going from A to B seems to be via Q, Z, F, aleph and

several

chinese characters.

Danny


I suspect that human beings, held to this odd standard, mighht well

be

discarded.

ward


What I find amusing about Darwinists is their general world view -

that

all phenomena are primarily existing to serve as "evidence" for
atheistic "theories", and if any phenomenon cannot be somehow screwed
into an impersonal, mechanistic "theory", then it is seen as
"purposeless", or "meaningless", or "anomalous", or it is ignored
altogether, or is even claimed not to exist at all!.

Fascinating: the funded-by-taxpayers-at-the-point-of-a-gun academic
tower of Babel, making a name for itself at your expense!


That's right, by golly. Before you know it they're going to be saying
the world isn't flat! Or that the earth isn't the centre of the
universe! The blasphemous fools! And the audacity of these people to
actually *demand* evidence, let alone repeatable, verifiable evidence!
Obvious lunatics. Who needs proof when you have the bible? Right?

Science is only a tower of babel to those who have not learned the
language of logic and the scientific method. My experience is that
this knowledge is in short supply amongst fundies. Indeed, few
fundies who learn logic and the scientific method stay fundies for
very long, which might explain why fundies are so intent on trying to
suppress it in our schools.


Funny, I didn't use the word "science" at all, yet you assumed it. So,
who has a problem with the "language of logic" and the "scientific
method"?

Darwinism is a religion then? An atheistic religion. How quaint.
.








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