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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "words of truth"
Date: 28 Sep 2005 11:22:05 AM
Object: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible
The Holocaust: Why Did It Happen?
by Wayne Jackson
http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm
Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and his
associates perpetrated that infamous evil.
On April 22, 1993, the Holocaust Memorial Museum was dedicated in
Washington, D.C. The museum is supposed to be a reminder of the 6
million Jews (and others) who were exterminated at the behest of Adolf
Hitler and his Nazi henchmen during World War II.
Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and
his associates perpetrated that infamous evil.
What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's (the word
means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is, there is a direct
connection between the Holocaust and the teachings of Charles Darwin
and his dogma of biological evolution.
In 1859, Charles Darwin published his revolutionary book, The Origin of
Species. Actually, the full title of the work is, The Origin of Species
by Means of Natural Selection: or, The Preservation Of Favored Races In
The Struggle For Life. In this book, the author contended that higher
levels of biological existence are attained as the strong eliminate the
weak in the struggle for survival.
Subsequently, Darwin produced yet another work, The Descent of Man
(1871), in which he wrote even more explicitly:
"With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and
those that survive commonly exhibit a vigourous state of health. We
civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of
elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the
sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost
skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason
to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak
constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak
members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has
attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must
be highly injurious to the race of man" (Darwin, 1872, p. 130, emp.
added).
Darwin's influence was tremendous and his ideas were applied to many
areas of life. One of his admirers was Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900),
a German philosopher. Nietzsche took the famous naturalist's
reasoning to what he felt was its logical conclusion - he longed to
see the development of a "super-race," and he felt that such could
only be achieved by the extinction of inferior races and individuals.
Nietzsche was a vigorous opponent of Christian morality, which he knew
fostered support for the weak. One historian has written that
Nietzsche's cardinal idea was "the notion that natural selection
should be permitted to operate unhindered in the case of human beings
as it does with plants and animals."
However, he believed that "before any such process of natural
selection could operate, religious obstacles would have to be removed.
Nietzsche therefore demanded that the moral supremacy of Christianity
and Judaism should be overthrown" (Burns, 1963, p. 809). He argued
that the preservation of sick and suffering people contributed to the
deterioration of the race (Flewelling, 1946, p. 423).
In 1888, the German philosopher lapsed into a state of complete
insanity, which continued until his death in 1900. Had his views been
practically applied to him, he would have been eliminated at that
point.
His ideas did not die with him. Nietzsche's views, coupled with the
earlier notions of Johann Fichte (1762-1814) - who argued that the
Germans were a superior race destined to assume leadership of the
civilized world - provided the philosophical basis for Hitler's
policy which was implemented in the Holocaust.
Adolf Hitler was born in 1889. His childhood was an unhappy one, and
early-on, he was undisciplined and rebellious. Hitler fought in the
German army during World War I (1914-1918), and was twice decorated. In
1920, he joined the German Workers' party which eventually evolved
into the Nazi party.
Adolf Hitler was a skillful manipulator of men and he gradually began
to gain power. In 1923, he attempted to incite a revolution. The
rebellion was foiled and he was sentenced to five years in prison.
While there, Hitler began the composition of his famous book Mein Kampf
(My Struggle). In this wretched volume, the mad ruler set forth his
views regarding the future of Germany.
He believed that the German people were the highest species on earth.
Germans must be kept pure, he argued, so that German children would be
"images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and
ape" (Jenks, 1979, p. 238). He felt that if the Jews were allowed to
mingle with the superior species, it would render futile "an
evolutionary higher stage of being" (Clark, 1967, p. 115). When
Hitler came into full power in the early 1930's, his beliefs were
politically and militarily set in motion.
A key plan for the implementation of Hitler's policies was the
practice of eugenics. Eugenics has to do with the systematic
elimination of biologically unfit individuals from society. In Mein
Kampf, Hitler declared:
"The mixing of the higher and lower races is clearly against the
intent of nature and involves the extinction of the Aryan race . . .
Where Aryan blood has mixed with that of lower peoples the result has
been the end of the bearers of culture" (quoted in Howard & Rifkin,
1977, p. 72).
Every student of history is familiar with how Hitler attempted to
eliminate the "unfit" from German society. The deformed, the
mentally ill, the Jews, etc. - none of those whom he deemed unworthy
were spared. Again, though, the question is - what ideology was
motivating this madman?
Though one hears precious little about it these days, careful scholars
have not altogether ignored the connection between Hitler's
holocaustic policies and the evolutionary philosophy which the Fuhrer
had adopted. In his monumental work, The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich, William Shirer asked:
". . . where did Hitler get his ideas? . . . he had somehow absorbed,
as had so many Germans, a weird mixture of the irresponsible,
megalomanical ideas which erupted from German thinkers during the
nineteenth century."
Shirer goes on to mention by name such men as Fichte, Hegel (who
inspired Marx and Lenin), Treitschke, Nietzsche and Richard Wagner, the
composer (1960, p. 97).
Hitler almost idolized Nietzsche. He frequently visited the Nietzsche
museum in Weimar "and publicized his veneration for the philosopher
by posing for photographs of himself staring in rapture at the bust of
the great man" (Shirer, p. 100). It has also been shown that Ernst
Haeckel (1834-1919), an evolutionary biologist contemporary with
Darwin, was the man who introduced evolutionary concepts into German
intellectual life, and thus he significantly helped to shape Hitler's
twisted thinking (Morris, 1989, pp. 72-74).
Sir Arthur Keith was one of Great Britain's leading evolutionary
anthropologists in the mid-1900's. In one of his popular books he
conceded:
"The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an
evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practices of
Germany conform to the theory of evolution" (1947, p. 230).
Dr. Robert E.D. Clark has noted:
"Adolf Hitler's mind was captivated by evolutionary teaching -
probably since the time he was a boy. Evolutionary ideas - quite
undisguised - lie at the basis of all that is worst in Mein Kampf -
and in his public speeches" (1967, p. 115).
Dr. Edward Simpson, an evolutionary professor of biology at Purdue
University, while attempting to weaken the association between
Darwinism and the Holocaust, nonetheless confessed:
"I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution brought on
the holocaust; but I cannot deny that the theory of evolution, and the
atheism it engendered, led to the moral climate that made a holocaust
possible" (1983, p. 24B).
In all the media attention that has been given to the Holocaust over
the past several decades, this writer has not seen a solitary line from
the popular press addressing the philosophical foundation upon which
Nazism was based.
Why has no consideration been given to the ideological factors that
spawned the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust? The answer is simple.
Modern journalists are intimidated by or enamored with the Darwinean
hypothesis. They thus refuse to acknowledge the connection between the
seed and the fruit.
But the association is historically undeniable. We might do well to
reflect upon the words of George Santayana: Those who do not remember
the past are condemned to relive it.
http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 30 Sep 2005 05:52:02 AM
Del wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:42:43 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote

What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's
(the word means "leader") am bitions? The grim truth is,
there is a direct connection between the Holocaust and
the teachings of Charles Darwin and his dogma of
biological evolution.


I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic w ho was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


WoT is a lying *****, Regardless, when did Hitler
ever say he was a _devout_ Catholic?

What Hitler said is irrelevant, the man was a lying megalomaniac and a
'user' of people



So you agree with Stalin, huh?

Because Stalin didn't agree with evolution either. He
actually financed some "research" into training wheat
to grow in the cold of Siberia.

No, they weren't trying to "breed" a cold-resistant
strain of wheat (that would be an example of "Micro
Evolution" in action), they thought they could TRAIN
wheat to grow in the cold.

Stalin, just like you, didn't believe in evolution.

The Nazis, just like you, never understood evolution.
You see, in evolution there is no "Master Race" nor
can there ever be one. Evolutionarily speaking, the
BEST population is a large & healthy population
sporting genetic diversity. That way it can adapt to
ANY changes that come around.

The LESS genetically diverse a population is -- the
more PURE it's genes -- the less capable it is of
adapting, of developing new traits or improving
existing ones.

Just like the Nazis, you're not capable of grasping this.






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User: "Del"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 01 Oct 2005 04:17:19 PM
bob young wrote:

Del wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:42:43 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote

What was the motive that fi red the lunacy of the Fuhrer's
(the word means "leader") am bitions? The grim truth is,
there is a direct connection between the Holocaust and
the teachings of Charles Darwin and his dogma of
biological evolution.


I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic w ho was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


WoT is a lying *****, Regardless, when did Hitler
ever say he was a _devout_ Catholic?


What Hitler said is irrelevant,

What are you telling me for? I made no claims here about
what Hitler "said."

the man was a lying megalomaniac and a
'user' of people

Believe it or not, some people here still take him at his word
when he said he was a Catholic.




So you agree with Stalin, huh?

Because Stalin didn't agree with evolution either. He
actually financed some "research" into training wheat
to grow in the cold of Siberia.

No, they weren't trying to "breed" a cold-resistant
strain of wheat (that would be an example of "Micro
Evolution" in action), they thought they could TRAIN
wh eat to grow in the cold.

Stalin, just like you, didn't believe in evolution.

The Nazis, just like you, never understood evolution.
You see, in evolution there is no "Master Race" nor
can there ever be one. Evolutionarily speaking, the
BEST population is a large & healthy population
sporting genetic diversity. That way it can adapt to
ANY changes that come around.

The LESS genetically diverse a population is -- the
more PURE it's genes -- the less capable it is of
adapting, of developing new traits or improving
existing ones.

Just like the Nazis, you're not capable of grasping this.






.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 01 Oct 2005 10:09:02 PM
Del wrote:

bob young wrote:

Del wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:42:43 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote

What was the motive that fi red the lunacy of the Fuhrer's
(the word means "leader") am bitions? The grim truth is,
there is a direct connection between the Holocaust and
the teachings of Charles Darwin and his dogma of
biological evolution.


I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic w ho was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


WoT is a lying *****, Regardless, when did Hitler
ever say he was a _devout_ Catholic?


What Hitler said is irrelevant,


What are you telling me for? I made no claims here about
what Hitler "said."

the man was a lying megalomaniac and a
'user' of people


Believe it or not, some people here still take him at his word
when he said he was a Catholic.

Well Hitler 'endorsed' the Catholic Church in order to retain their support.
What he really was we will never know, but I think he worshipped Adolf Hitler !





So you agree with Stalin, huh?

Because Stalin didn't agree with evolution either. He
actually financed some "research" into training wheat
to grow in the cold of Siberia.

No, they weren't trying to "breed" a cold-resistant
strain of wheat (that would be an example of "Micro
Evolution" in action), they thought they could TRAIN
wh eat to grow in the cold.

Stalin, just like you, didn't believe in evolution.

The Nazis, just like you, never understood evolution.
You see, in evolution there is no "Master Race" nor
can there ever be one. Evolutionarily speaking, the
BEST population is a large & healthy population
sporting genetic diversity. That way it can adapt to
ANY changes that come around.

The LESS genetically diverse a population is -- the
more PURE it's genes -- the less capable it is of
adapting, of developing new traits or improving
existing ones.

Just like the Nazis, you're not capable of grasping this.






.



User: "\MIDIcian\ \tm"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 10:46:34 PM
Gee, didn't the belt buckles on the Nazis say something like "God is with
us"????
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User: "Katt"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 11:17:34 PM
""MIDIcian" (tm)" <Stan@NeverFalls.com> wrote in message
news:dhfo2n$1lq$0@pita.alt.net...

Gee, didn't the belt buckles on the Nazis say something like "God is with
us"????

'Gott Mit Uns', yes.
And look at all this:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
Katt.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:16:28 PM
On 29-Sep-2005, "Katt" <katt@g.com> wrote:

""MIDIcian" (tm)" <Stan@NeverFalls.com> wrote in message
news:dhfo2n$1lq$0@pita.alt.net...

Gee, didn't the belt buckles on the Nazis say something like "God is
with
us"????


'Gott Mit Uns', yes.

And look at all this:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

Hitler was willing to use *anything* in his quest for evil.
I don't think anyone is doubting the religious preferences of the soldiers
under him, tho' many believing Xians might want to.
Susan
.
User: "Terry Cross"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:22:47 PM
wrote:

On 29-Sep-2005, "Katt" <katt@g.com> wrote:

""MIDIcian" (tm)" <Stan@NeverFalls.com> wrote in message
news:dhfo2n$1lq$0@pita.alt.net...

Gee, didn't the belt buckles on the Nazis say something like "God is
with
us"????


'Gott Mit Uns', yes.

And look at all this:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


Hitler was willing to use *anything* in his quest for evil.
I don't think anyone is doubting the religious preferences of the soldiers
under him, tho' many believing Xians might want to.

Are you back on your theme song again about the Christians conspiring
against the Jews? Don't you have anything else to talk about?
Or are you just like every other conspiracy theorist: You are entirely
consumed by this great idea, and you don't want to give it up because
you never know when you will have another one?
TCross
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User: "\MIDIcian\ \tm"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 09:26:51 PM
"Terry Cross", right-wing extremist lying-type propaganda artist -

... conspiracy theorist: You are entirely
consumed ...

Straw man. Attack the real conspiracy theorists, you're missing your
target.
Stan
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 30 Sep 2005 12:34:23 AM
On 29-Sep-2005, "\"MIDIcian\" \(tm\)" <Stan@NeverFalls.com> wrote:

"Terry Cross", right-wing extremist lying-type propaganda artist -

... conspiracy theorist: You are entirely
consumed ...


Straw man. Attack the real conspiracy theorists, you're missing your
target.

He doesn't want to attack conspiracy theorists.
He wants to pretend that Xianity, as it has been practiced, wasn't
anti-semitic so he can hide his own Jew-hatred.
Susan
.
User: "Terry Cross"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 30 Sep 2005 01:10:37 AM
wrote:

On 29-Sep-2005, "\"MIDIcian\" \(tm\)" <Stan@NeverFalls.com> wrote:

"Terry Cross", right-wing extremist lying-type propaganda artist -

... conspiracy theorist: You are entirely
consumed ...


Straw man. Attack the real conspiracy theorists,

Like the one below?

you're missing your
target.


He doesn't want to attack conspiracy theorists.
He wants to pretend that Xianity, as it has been practiced, wasn't
anti-semitic so he can hide his own Jew-hatred.

You see, Christians have been conspiring against the Jews since -
whenever. If you say the Jews are conspiring against the Christians,
Flavia climbs through the skylights.
She has no problem with conspiracy theories, but they have to be HER
conspiracy theories.
Flavia believes in The Real Truth: It's the Christians - sinful, mean,
cruel, and conspiratorial - who conspire against the innocent Jews.
TCross
.
User: "\MIDIcian\ \tm"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 30 Sep 2005 10:50:31 PM
"Terry Cross" <tcross77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128060637.690936.316170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

... The Real Truth: It's the Christians - sinful, mean,
cruel, and conspiratorial - who conspire against the innocent Jews.

Not only innocent Jews, but ALL innocent people. Well, those that shout how
Christian they claim to be.
Stan
.








User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 10:29:26 PM
1919 Dead wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:42:43 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote

What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's
(the word means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is,
there is a direct connection between the Holocaust and
the teachings of Charles Darwin and his dogma of
biological evolution.


I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.

I agree, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hitler was a master
user of words and he lied constantly to achive his aims and ambitions.
The man is worthless in any dialogue on relgious matters IMO



So you agree with Stalin, huh?

Because Stalin didn't agree with evolution either. He
actually financed some "research" into training wheat
to grow in the cold of Siberia.

No, they weren't trying to "breed" a cold-resistant
strain of wheat (that would be an example of "Micro
Evolution" in action), they thought they could TRAIN
wheat to grow in the cold.

Stalin, just like you, didn't believe in evolution.

The Nazis, just like you, never understood evolution.
You see, in evolution there is no "Master Race" nor
can there ever be one. Evolutionarily speaking, the
BEST population is a large & healthy population
sporting genetic diversity. That way it can adapt to
ANY changes that come around.

The LESS genetically diverse a population is -- the
more PURE it's genes -- the less capable it is of
adapting, of developing new traits or improving
existing ones.

Just like the Nazis, you're not capable of grasping this.






.
User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:15:31 PM
On 28-Sep-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


I agree, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hitler was a master
user of words and he lied constantly to achive his aims and ambitions.
The man is worthless in any dialogue on relgious matters IMO

Absolutely.
I would call Hitler as Xian as fast as I would call him a Martian.
Susan
.
User: "1927 Dead"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:46:46 PM
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:15:31 GMT,
wrote:


On 28-Sep-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


I agree, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hitler was a master
user of words and he lied constantly to achive his aims and ambitions.
The man is worthless in any dialogue on relgious matters IMO


Absolutely.
I would call Hitler as Xian as fast as I would call him a Martian.

I agree, but the fact is that he successfully manipulated the quite
sincere religious feelings of the German people to assist his ride in
power.
Any politician who invokes God should be taken out, horsewhipped, and
banned from running from public office ever again.


Susan

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 05:46:55 PM
On 29-Sep-2005, 1927 Dead <zepp#22111927dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:15:31 GMT,

wrote:


On 28-Sep-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the
Jews.


I agree, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hitler was a
master
user of words and he lied constantly to achive his aims and ambitions.
The man is worthless in any dialogue on relgious matters IMO


Absolutely.
I would call Hitler as Xian as fast as I would call him a Martian.


I agree, but the fact is that he successfully manipulated the quite
sincere religious feelings of the German people to assist his ride in
power.

Of course.


Any politician who invokes God should be taken out, horsewhipped, and
banned from running from public office ever again.

In *public*, sure
Susan
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:56:39 PM
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:46:46 -0700, 1927 Dead
<zepp#22111927dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:15:31 GMT,

wrote:


On 28-Sep-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

1919 Dead wrote:

I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.


I agree, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hitler was a master
user of words and he lied constantly to achive his aims and ambitions.
The man is worthless in any dialogue on relgious matters IMO


Absolutely.
I would call Hitler as Xian as fast as I would call him a Martian.


I agree, but the fact is that he successfully manipulated the quite
sincere religious feelings of the German people to assist his ride in
power.

Do people honestly imagine he knew he was pursuing an evil agenda
and was only pretending to be Christian to carry it out?
Does that mean that Martin Luther, the saints who were canonised for
protecting and spreading the faith at sword-point during the
reformation, etc were also pursuing an evil agenda and only pretending
to be Christian?

Any politician who invokes God should be taken out, horsewhipped, and
banned from running from public office ever again.


Susan

.




User: "Aria"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 12:24:03 PM

Why has no consideration been given to the ideological factors that
spawned the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust? The answer is simple.
Modern journalists are intimidated by or enamored with the Darwinean
hypothesis. They thus refuse to acknowledge the connection between the
seed and the fruit.

If the relation between the Darwinian hypothesis and Holocaust is the
relation between seed and fruit, then what is the relation between
religion and the crusades?

We might do well to
reflect upon the words of George Santayana: Those who do not remember
the past are condemned to relive it.

we did forget about religion and crusades and we are now living it
again, only it's called war on terror.
and to condemn Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection due
to Holocaust is as ludicrous as defending the Holocaust due to Israel's
current actions.
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 10:31:23 PM
Aria wrote:

Why has no consideration been given to the ideological factors that
spawned the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust? The answer is simple.
Modern journalists are intimidated by or enamored with the Darwinean
hypothesis. They thus refuse to acknowledge the connection between the
seed and the fruit.


If the relation between the Darwinian hypothesis and Holocaust is the
relation between seed and fruit, then what is the relation between
religion and the crusades?

We might do well to
reflect upon the words of George Santayana: Those who do not remember
the past are condemned to relive it.


we did forget about religion and crusades and we are now living it
again, only it's called war on terror.

and to condemn Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection due
to Holocaust is as ludicrous as defending the Holocaust due to Israel's
current actions.

The instigator of the thread is a classic example of the stupidity of
religions.
It is even more banal when viewed from the poiint of view that at the back
of their minds they must know that they are stupid.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 06:22:48 PM
On 28-Sep-2005, "Aria" <akashefi@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:

we did forget about religion and crusades and we are now living it
again, only it's called war on terror.

That is about as stupid a remark as I've heard come from an atheist, and
I am surprised. All the atheists I know are superioer in intellect or
at least their thoughts. The only thing that is "lkike the crusades" is
JIHAD - the *reason* for the war on terror.
IOW, we aren't going after them because they are Muslim - we are
going after them because they are coming after us - tho' they *are*
coming after us because we aren't their sick brand of Muslim.
Susan
.

User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 04:05:40 PM
Would you like to provide proof of any Holocaust ever committed by
Israel?
Since 1948, an estimated twenty-thousand (20,000) Palestinians have been
killed by Israeli Defence Forces, this includes THREE WARS and TWO
intifadas that the Arabs themselves started.
Yet, Jordanians murdered over 10,000 Palestinians in less than ONE
MONTH: September 1970.
During this same time nearly 22,000 Israelis have been killed.
So where is the holocaust when the casualty rate on either side is
almost the same???????
Perhaps you need to take some Statistics classes at University of
British Columbia, if not just some basic mathematic courses?
"Aria" <akashefi@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:1127928243.083866.198890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
:
: and to condemn Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection due
: to Holocaust is as ludicrous as defending the Holocaust due to
Israel's
: current actions.
:
.
User: "Aria"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 06:14:13 PM
I never claimed that Israel committed anything like the Holocaust! What
I meant was if you are going to condemn Darwin because you say that
Holocaust was the result of his doctrine, then I said a similarly
ludacrous claim could be made in support of the Holocaust because after
the Holocaust (now) the Jews (Israelis) are not treating their
neighbours (hosts?) very well (like Hitler alwasy say they wouldn't).
Get it? And NO! this is not an antisemitist claim and I do not support
the Holocaust or any similar atrocity by any group to any group of
human beings. Hope that clears things up.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:12:25 PM
On 28-Sep-2005, "Aria" <akashefi@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:

I said a similarly
ludacrous claim could be made in support of the Holocaust because after
the Holocaust (now) the Jews (Israelis) are not treating their
neighbours (hosts?) very well (like Hitler alwasy say they wouldn't).
Get it? And NO! this is not an antisemitist claim and I do not support
the Holocaust or any similar atrocity by any group to any group of
human beings. Hope that clears things up.

Actually, it only raises more questions.
Are you calling Hitler's claims & the worlds' claims of Israel's actions
ludicrous?
Susan
.

User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 06:25:44 PM
Rubbish.
You are a Jew-hating Canadian scumbag.
"Aria" <akashefi@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:1127949253.438495.170580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
:I never claimed that Israel committed anything like the Holocaust! What
: I meant was if you are going to condemn Darwin because you say that
: Holocaust was the result of his doctrine, then I said a similarly
: ludacrous claim could be made in support of the Holocaust because
after
: the Holocaust (now) the Jews (Israelis) are not treating their
: neighbours (hosts?) very well (like Hitler alwasy say they wouldn't).
: Get it? And NO! this is not an antisemitist claim and I do not support
: the Holocaust or any similar atrocity by any group to any group of
: human beings. Hope that clears things up.
:
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 01:11:05 PM
On 28-Sep-2005, "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Would you like to provide proof of any Holocaust ever committed by
Israel?

Since 1948, an estimated twenty-thousand (20,000) Palestinians have been
killed by Israeli Defence Forces, this includes THREE WARS and TWO
intifadas that the Arabs themselves started.

Yet, Jordanians murdered over 10,000 Palestinians in less than ONE
MONTH: September 1970.

Are you sure you don't have your numbers reversed?
I have seen much documentation for Black September being the
destruction of 20,000 so-called Palestinians.


During this same time nearly 22,000 Israelis have been killed.

So where is the holocaust when the casualty rate on either side is
almost the same???????

If there's a holocaust/genocide of so-called Palestinians, how is it
that their population as increased tenfold in the last 50 years>
Susan


Perhaps you need to take some Statistics classes at University of
British Columbia, if not just some basic mathematic courses?


"Aria" <akashefi@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:1127928243.083866.198890@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
:
: and to condemn Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection due
: to Holocaust is as ludicrous as defending the Holocaust due to
Israel's
: current actions.
:

.



User: ""

Title: Re: Bigotry & Lies Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 06:20:19 PM
On 28-Sep-2005, 1919 Dead <zepp#22111919dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com>
wrote:


"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote

What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's
(the word means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is,

nothing posted by anyone who has to call *himself* "words of truth"


I don't guess this guy knows that Hitler considered himself a devout
Catholic who was carrying out the will of God by massacreing the Jews.

Oh, he knows all right - that's why he's so desperate to prove otherwise.
Susan
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 02:23:00 PM
Whew ... ! wot a lot o' crap!
Try this ...
With absolutely no fear of being refuted or shouted down, following for
everyone's enlightenment is a scientifically sound, logically vetted
listing of the primary personal traits possessed by each adherent to
"intelligent" behi- design misconceptions [THIS MIGHT MEAN YOU]:
1) Fundamentalist, bible-thumping, hypocritical religionist.
2) Narrow-minded, book-burning, semitic-, black-, oriental-,
homosexual-, science-, labor-movement-, and free-thought-hating bigot.
3) Believer in creationism, jesus, god and other ASSorted *****
concepts.
4) Admirer of the sordid bush clan, Jerry Falwell - and/or the pope
and his 2000-year-old criminal cult of repression and fear
5) Heavy alcohol imbiber.
6) Small-dicked tea-totaler.
7) Cold-pussied tea-totaler.
8) Eschewer of oral sex.
9) Displayer of the confederate battle flag.
10) Maliciously anti-abortionist who's willing to kill pro-choicers.
That's it. If you find your lifestyle and thought processes here,
yeah, you're "one of em" - sorry!
.
User: "Terry Cross"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 02:34:48 PM
wrote:

Whew ... ! wot a lot o' crap!

Try this ...

With absolutely no fear of being refuted or shouted down, following for
everyone's enlightenment is a scientifically sound, logically vetted
listing of the primary personal traits possessed by each adherent to
"intelligent" behi- design misconceptions [THIS MIGHT MEAN YOU]:

1) Fundamentalist, bible-thumping, hypocritical religionist.

Dead wrong with the first shot. I do not believe in, respect, sell,
push, thump, fundamentalize, or pay any attention to the Bible, except
as a massive problem in the American intellect.
There are many in my camp.

2) Narrow-minded, book-burning, semitic-, black-, oriental-,
homosexual-, science-, labor-movement-, and free-thought-hating bigot.

So - the Orthodox rabbis that claim the world was created by Jehovah
only a few thousand years ago - they are anti-semitic?
You have a real problem, sonny. It begins at your neck, and extends
upwards.
TCross
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 29 Sep 2005 05:48:43 PM
On 29-Sep-2005,
wrote:

Whew ... ! wot a lot o' crap!

Try this ...

With absolutely no fear of being refuted or shouted down, following for
everyone's enlightenment is a scientifically sound, logically vetted
listing of the primary personal traits possessed by each adherent to
"intelligent" behi- design misconceptions [THIS MIGHT MEAN YOU]:

1) Fundamentalist, bible-thumping, hypocritical religionist.

2) Narrow-minded, book-burning, semitic-, black-, oriental-,
homosexual-, science-, labor-movement-, and free-thought-hating bigot.

3) Believer in creationism, jesus, god and other ASSorted *****
concepts.

4) Admirer of the sordid bush clan, Jerry Falwell - and/or the pope
and his 2000-year-old criminal cult of repression and fear

5) Heavy alcohol imbiber.

6) Small-dicked tea-totaler.

7) Cold-pussied tea-totaler.

8) Eschewer of oral sex.

9) Displayer of the confederate battle flag.

10) Maliciously anti-abortionist who's willing to kill pro-choicers.

That's it. If you find your lifestyle and thought processes here,
yeah, you're "one of em" - sorry!

Yes, you should be sorry - you don't get to make up categories for
other people unless they are based on verifiable facts.
(Big clue: some of these things contradict each other - sometimes
WITHIN THE SAME LINE).
Susan
.


User: "Llanzlan Klazmon"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 06:31:55 PM
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1127924525.798220.23440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

The Holocaust: Why Did It Happen?

More than a thousand years of christian anti semitism.
Klazmon.

<SNIP>
.

User: "DH"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 12:38:19 PM
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1127924525.798220.23440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

The Holocaust: Why Did It Happen?

by Wayne Jackson
http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm

Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and his
associates perpetrated that infamous evil.

That's right, civilized people lament it but Wayne Jackson is going to push
a fundie agenda through it...
[snip]

What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's (the word
means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is, there is a direct
connection between the Holocaust and the teachings of Charles Darwin
and his dogma of biological evolution.

In 1859, Charles Darwin published his revolutionary book, The Origin of
Species. Actually, the full title of the work is, The Origin of Species
by Means of Natural Selection: or, The Preservation Of Favored Races In
The Struggle For Life. In this book, the author contended that higher
levels of biological existence are attained as the strong eliminate the
weak in the struggle for survival.

[snip a lot of tortured logic and misrepresentation]
The principle of Evolution, which Darwin discovered, is a way for Nature or,
perhaps, God to order, manage and develop the universe. How we order our
societies is up to our own free will.
I'd think you'd notice, first, the hand of the Devout Christian laying the
foundation of the Holocaust. Look at what Martin Luther had to say, way
back in the 1500's...
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/luther-jews.html
[There's more there but I am providing a sample here for your
convenience...]
Excerpts from Martin Luther: "The Jews and Their Lies"
....
Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever they have
their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in which sheer
self-glory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men are
practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on them.
....
....but then eject them forever from this country. For, as we have heard,
God's anger with them is so intense that gentle mercy will only tend to make
them worse and worse, while sharp mercy will reform them but little.
Therefore, in any case, away with them!
....
Over and above that we let them get rich on our sweat and blood, while we
remain poor and they such the marrow from our bones.
....
I brief, dear princes and lords, those of you who have Jews under your
rule-- if my counsel does not please your, find better advice, so that you
and we all can be rid of the unbearable, devilish burden of the Jews, lest
we become guilty sharers before God in the lies, blasphemy, the defamation,
and the curses which the mad Jews indulge in so freely and wantonly against
the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, this dear mother, all hristians, all
authority, and ourselves. Do not grant them protection, safe-conduct, or
communion with us.... .With this faithful counsel and warning I wish to
cleanse and exonerate my conscience.
....
What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the
Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that
we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we
become sharers in their lies, cursing and blaspemy. Thus we cannot
extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets
speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must
pratice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the
glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengenance a thousand times
worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give
you my sincere advice:
First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with
dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or
cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom,
so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or
knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son
and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly -
and I myself was unaware of it - will be pardoned by God. But if we, now
that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews,
existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme,
curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be
the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very
well know.
Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they
pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be
lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to
them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they
are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament
about us before God.
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Darwinism and Atheism Made Holocaust Possible 28 Sep 2005 10:25:23 PM
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words of truth wrote:

The Holocaust: Why Did It Happen?

by Wayne Jackson

http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm

Why are you not posting in alt.binaries.wierdocrap?



Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and his
associates perpetrated that infamous evil.
On April 22, 1993, the Holocaust Memorial Museum was dedicated in
Washington, D.C. The museum is supposed to be a reminder of the 6
million Jews (and others) who were exterminated at the behest of Adolf
Hitler and his Nazi henchmen during World War II.

Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and
his associates perpetrated that infamous evil.

What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's (the word
means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is, there is a direct
connection between the Holocaust and the teachings of Charles Darwin
and his dogma of biological evolution.

In 1859, Charles Darwin published his revolutionary book, The Origin of
Species. Actually, the full title of the work is, The Origin of Species
by Means of Natural Selection: or, The Preservation Of Favored Races In
The Struggle For Life. In this book, the author contended that higher
levels of biological existence are attained as the strong eliminate the
weak in the struggle for survival.

Subsequently, Darwin produced yet another work, The Descent of Man
(1871), in which he wrote even more explicitly:

"With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and
those that survive commonly exhibit a vigourous state of health. We
civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of
elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the
sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost
skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason
to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak
constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak
members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has
attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must
be highly injurious to the race of man" (Darwin, 1872, p. 130, emp.
added).
Darwin's influence was tremendous and his ideas were applied to many
areas of life. One of his admirers was Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900),
a German philosopher. Nietzsche took the famous naturalist's
reasoning to what he felt was its logical conclusion - he longed to
see the development of a "super-race," and he felt that such could
only be achieved by the extinction of inferior races and individuals.

Nietzsche was a vigorous opponent of Christian morality, which he knew
fostered support for the weak. One historian has written that
Nietzsche's cardinal idea was "the notion that natural selection
should be permitted to operate unhindered in the case of human beings
as it does with plants and animals."

However, he believed that "before any such process of natural
selection could operate, religious obstacles would have to be removed.
Nietzsche therefore demanded that the moral supremacy of Christianity
and Judaism should be overthrown" (Burns, 1963, p. 809). He argued
that the preservation of sick and suffering people contributed to the
deterioration of the race (Flewelling, 1946, p. 423).

In 1888, the German philosopher lapsed into a state of complete
insanity, which continued until his death in 1900. Had his views been
practically applied to him, he would have been eliminated at that
point.

His ideas did not die with him. Nietzsche's views, coupled with the
earlier notions of Johann Fichte (1762-1814) - who argued that the
Germans were a superior race destined to assume leadership of the
civilized world - provided the philosophical basis for Hitler's
policy which was implemented in the Holocaust.

Adolf Hitler was born in 1889. His childhood was an unhappy one, and
early-on, he was undisciplined and rebellious. Hitler fought in the
German army during World War I (1914-1918), and was twice decorated. In
1920, he joined the German Workers' party which eventually evolved
into the Nazi party.

Adolf Hitler was a skillful manipulator of men and he gradually began
to gain power. In 1923, he attempted to incite a revolution. The
rebellion was foiled and he was sentenced to five years in prison.
While there, Hitler began the composition of his famous book Mein Kampf
(My Struggle). In this wretched volume, the mad ruler set forth his
views regarding the future of Germany.

He believed that the German people were the highest species on earth.
Germans must be kept pure, he argued, so that German children would be
"images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and
ape" (Jenks, 1979, p. 238). He felt that if the Jews were allowed to
mingle with the superior species, it would render futile "an
evolutionary higher stage of being" (Clark, 1967, p. 115). When
Hitler came into full power in the early 1930's, his beliefs were
politically and militarily set in motion.

A key plan for the implementation of Hitler's policies was the
practice of eugenics. Eugenics has to do with the systematic
elimination of biologically unfit individuals from society. In Mein
Kampf, Hitler declared:

"The mixing of the higher and lower races is clearly against the
intent of nature and involves the extinction of the Aryan race . . .
Where Aryan blood has mixed with that of lower peoples the result has
been the end of the bearers of culture" (quoted in Howard & Rifkin,
1977, p. 72).
Every student of history is familiar with how Hitler attempted to
eliminate the "unfit" from German society. The deformed, the
mentally ill, the Jews, etc. - none of those whom he deemed unworthy
were spared. Again, though, the question is - what ideology was
motivating this madman?

Though one hears precious little about it these days, careful scholars
have not altogether ignored the connection between Hitler's
holocaustic policies and the evolutionary philosophy which the Fuhrer
had adopted. In his monumental work, The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich, William Shirer asked:

". . . where did Hitler get his ideas? . . . he had somehow absorbed,
as had so many Germans, a weird mixture of the irresponsible,
megalomanical ideas which erupted from German thinkers during the
nineteenth century."
Shirer goes on to mention by name such men as Fichte, Hegel (who
inspired Marx and Lenin), Treitschke, Nietzsche and Richard Wagner, the
composer (1960, p. 97).

Hitler almost idolized Nietzsche. He frequently visited the Nietzsche
museum in Weimar "and publicized his veneration for the philosopher
by posing for photographs of himself staring in rapture at the bust of
the great man" (Shirer, p. 100). It has also been shown that Ernst
Haeckel (1834-1919), an evolutionary biologist contemporary with
Darwin, was the man who introduced evolutionary concepts into German
intellectual life, and thus he significantly helped to shape Hitler's
twisted thinking (Morris, 1989, pp. 72-74).

Sir Arthur Keith was one of Great Britain's leading evolutionary
anthropologists in the mid-1900's. In one of his popular books he
conceded:

"The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an
evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practices of
Germany conform to the theory of evolution" (1947, p. 230).
Dr. Robert E.D. Clark has noted:

"Adolf Hitler's mind was captivated by evolutionary teaching -
probably since the time he was a boy. Evolutionary ideas - quite
undisguised - lie at the basis of all that is worst in Mein Kampf -
and in his public speeches" (1967, p. 115).
Dr. Edward Simpson, an evolutionary professor of biology at Purdue
University, while attempting to weaken the association between
Darwinism and the Holocaust, nonetheless confessed:

"I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution brought on
the holocaust; but I cannot deny that the theory of evolution, and the
atheism it engendered, led to the moral climate that made a holocaust
possible" (1983, p. 24B).
In all the media attention that has been given to the Holocaust over
the past several decades, this writer has not seen a solitary line from
the popular press addressing the philosophical foundation upon which
Nazism was based.

Why has no consideration been given to the ideological factors that
spawned the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust? The answer is simple.
Modern journalists are intimidated by or enamored with the Darwinean
hypothesis. They thus refuse to acknowledge the connection between the
seed and the fruit.

But the association is historically undeniable. We might do well to
reflect upon the words of George Santayana: Those who do not remember
the past are condemned to relive it.

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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>The Holocaust: Why Did It Happen?
<p>by Wayne Jackson
<p><a href="http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm">http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm</a></blockquote>
Why are you not posting in alt.binaries.wierdocrap?
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><a href="http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm"></a>&nbsp;
<p>Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
<br>of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
<br>silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and
his
<br>associates perpetrated that infamous evil.
<br>&nbsp;On April 22, 1993, the Holocaust Memorial Museum was dedicated
in
<br>Washington, D.C. The museum is supposed to be a reminder of the 6
<br>million Jews (and others) who were exterminated at the behest of Adolf
<br>Hitler and his Nazi henchmen during World War II.
<p>Civilized men lament the Holocaust (1933-45) as one of the darkest eras
<br>of modern history. There is, however, almost a conspiracy of historical
<br>silence - few journalists care to reflect upon just why Hitler and
<br>his associates perpetrated that infamous evil.
<p>What was the motive that fired the lunacy of the Fuhrer's (the word
<br>means "leader") ambitions? The grim truth is, there is a direct
<br>connection between the Holocaust and the teachings of Charles Darwin
<br>and his dogma of biological evolution.
<p>In 1859, Charles Darwin published his revolutionary book, The Origin
of
<br>Species. Actually, the full title of the work is, The Origin of Species
<br>by Means of Natural Selection: or, The Preservation Of Favored Races
In
<br>The Struggle For Life. In this book, the author contended that higher
<br>levels of biological existence are attained as the strong eliminate
the
<br>weak in the struggle for survival.
<p>Subsequently, Darwin produced yet another work, The Descent of Man
<br>(1871), in which he wrote even more explicitly:
<p>"With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and
<br>those that survive commonly exhibit a vigourous state of health. We
<br>civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process
of
<br>elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the
<br>sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost
<br>skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason
<br>to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak
<br>constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak
<br>members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has
<br>attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must
<br>be highly injurious to the race of man" (Darwin, 1872, p. 130, emp.
<br>added).
<br>Darwin's influence was tremendous and his ideas were applied to many
<br>areas of life. One of his admirers was Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900),
<br>a German philosopher. Nietzsche took the famous naturalist's
<br>reasoning to what he felt was its logical conclusion - he longed to
<br>see the development of a "super-race," and he felt that such could
<br>only be achieved by the extinction of inferior races and individuals.
<p>Nietzsche was a vigorous opponent of Christian morality, which he knew
<br>fostered support for the weak. One historian has written that
<br>Nietzsche's cardinal idea was "the notion that natural selection
<br>should be permitted to operate unhindered in the case of human beings
<br>as it does with plants and animals."
<p>However, he believed that "before any such process of natural
<br>selection could operate, religious obstacles would have to be removed.
<br>Nietzsche therefore demanded that the moral supremacy of Christianity
<br>and Judaism should be overthrown" (Burns, 1963, p. 809). He argued
<br>that the preservation of sick and suffering people contributed to the
<br>deterioration of the race (Flewelling, 1946, p. 423).
<p>In 1888, the German philosopher lapsed into a state of complete
<br>insanity, which continued until his death in 1900. Had his views been
<br>practically applied to him, he would have been eliminated at that
<br>point.
<p>His ideas did not die with him. Nietzsche's views, coupled with the
<br>earlier notions of Johann Fichte (1762-1814) - who argued that the
<br>Germans were a superior race destined to assume leadership of the
<br>civilized world - provided the philosophical basis for Hitler's
<br>policy which was implemented in the Holocaust.
<p>Adolf Hitler was born in 1889. His childhood was an unhappy one, and
<br>early-on, he was undisciplined and rebellious. Hitler fought in the
<br>German army during World War I (1914-1918), and was twice decorated.
In
<br>1920, he joined the German Workers' party which eventually evolved
<br>into the Nazi party.
<p>Adolf Hitler was a skillful manipulator of men and he gradually began
<br>to gain power. In 1923, he attempted to incite a revolution. The
<br>rebellion was foiled and he was sentenced to five years in prison.
<br>While there, Hitler began the composition of his famous book Mein Kampf
<br>(My Struggle). In this wretched volume, the mad ruler set forth his
<br>views regarding the future of Germany.
<p>He believed that the German people were the highest species on earth.
<br>Germans must be kept pure, he argued, so that German children would
be
<br>"images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and
<br>ape" (Jenks, 1979, p. 238). He felt that if the Jews were allowed to
<br>mingle with the superior species, it would render futile "an
<br>evolutionary higher stage of being" (Clark, 1967, p. 115). When
<br>Hitler came into full power in the early 1930's, his beliefs were
<br>politically and militarily set in motion.
<p>A key plan for the implementation of Hitler's policies was the
<br>practice of eugenics. Eugenics has to do with the systematic
<br>elimination of biologically unfit individuals from society. In Mein
<br>Kampf, Hitler declared:
<p>"The mixing of the higher and lower races is clearly against the
<br>intent of nature and involves the extinction of the Aryan race . .
..
<br>Where Aryan blood has mixed with that of lower peoples the result has
<br>been the end of the bearers of culture" (quoted in Howard &amp; Rifkin,
<br>1977, p. 72).
<br>Every student of history is familiar with how Hitler attempted to
<br>eliminate the "unfit" from German society. The deformed, the
<br>mentally ill, the Jews, etc. - none of those whom he deemed unworthy
<br>were spared. Again, though, the question is - what ideology was
<br>motivating this madman?
<p>Though one hears precious little about it these days, careful scholars
<br>have not altogether ignored the connection between Hitler's
<br>holocaustic policies and the evolutionary philosophy which the Fuhrer
<br>had adopted. In his monumental work, The Rise and Fall of the Third
<br>Reich, William Shirer asked:
<p>". . . where did Hitler get his ideas? . . . he had somehow absorbed,
<br>as had so many Germans, a weird mixture of the irresponsible,
<br>megalomanical ideas which erupted from German thinkers during the
<br>nineteenth century."
<br>Shirer goes on to mention by name such men as Fichte, Hegel (who
<br>inspired Marx and Lenin), Treitschke, Nietzsche and Richard Wagner,
the
<br>composer (1960, p. 97).
<p>Hitler almost idolized Nietzsche. He frequently visited the Nietzsche
<br>museum in Weimar "and publicized his veneration for the philosopher
<br>by posing for photographs of himself staring in rapture at the bust
of
<br>the great man" (Shirer, p. 100). It has also been shown that Ernst
<br>Haeckel (1834-1919), an evolutionary biologist contemporary with
<br>Darwin, was the man who introduced evolutionary concepts into German
<br>intellectual life, and thus he significantly helped to shape Hitler's
<br>twisted thinking (Morris, 1989, pp. 72-74).
<p>Sir Arthur Keith was one of Great Britain's leading evolutionary
<br>anthropologists in the mid-1900's. In one of his popular books he
<br>conceded:
<p>"The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an
<br>evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practices of
<br>Germany conform to the theory of evolution" (1947, p. 230).
<br>Dr. Robert E.D. Clark has noted:
<p>"Adolf Hitler's mind was captivated by evolutionary teaching -
<br>probably since the time he was a boy. Evolutionary ideas - quite
<br>undisguised - lie at the basis of all that is worst in Mein Kampf -
<br>and in his public speeches" (1967, p. 115).
<br>Dr. Edward Simpson, an evolutionary professor of biology at Purdue
<br>University, while attempting to weaken the association between
<br>Darwinism and the Holocaust, nonetheless confessed:
<p>"I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution brought on
<br>the holocaust; but I cannot deny that the theory of evolution, and
the
<br>atheism it engendered, led to the moral climate that made a holocaust
<br>possible" (1983, p. 24B).
<br>In all the media attention that has been given to the Holocaust over
<br>the past several decades, this writer has not seen a solitary line
from
<br>the popular press addressing the philosophical foundation upon which
<br>Nazism was based.
<p>Why has no consideration been given to the ideological factors that
<br>spawned the horrible tragedy of the Holocaust? The answer is simple.
<br>Modern journalists are intimidated by or enamored with the Darwinean
<br>hypothesis. They thus refuse to acknowledge the connection between
the
<br>seed and the fruit.
<p>But the association is historically undeniable. We might do well to
<br>reflect upon the words of George Santayana: Those who do not remember
<br>the past are condemned to relive it.
<p><a href="http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm">http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/holocaustWhy.htm</a></blockquote>
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