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"Roy Jose Lorr" |
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30 Jul 2007 02:55:57 AM |
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Darwinism and Materialism |
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes… will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 09:23:43 AM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:55:57 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr
<Kenthz@comcast.net> let us all know that:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
Wrong.
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 08:08:12 AM |
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In article <BYSdnYvV4-HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com>,=20
Kenthz@comcast.net says...
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
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At some future period, not very distant as measured by=20
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly=20
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the=20
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes?=20
Notice the ellipsis right here. Here is the elided sentence:
"At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen=20
has remarked (18. 'Anthropological Review,' April 1867, p. 236.), will no=
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doubt be exterminated."
Apparently the dishonest creationist quote-miner didn't want to admit=20
that Darwin was quoting another person on this issue, rather than=20
furnishing this view entirely on his own. =20
--=20
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the=20
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be=20
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,=20
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to=20
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "snowpheonix" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
05 Aug 2007 11:32:51 AM |
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On Jul 30, 5:55 pm, Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes... will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Actually, One of the things I continually point out to Australian's is
this quote and another where he basically states that because they
wore piercings and tattos they were obviously of a lower species.
To me the irony is that to this date they still have Darwin as a
capitol city in the Northern Territory. A place where most of these
"primatives" still live.
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
05 Aug 2007 11:42:15 AM |
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On Aug 5, 12:32?pm, snowpheonix <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:55 pm, Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes... will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Actually, One of the things I continually point out to Australian's is
this quote and another where he basically states that because they
wore piercings and tattos they were obviously of a lower species.
To me the irony is that to this date they still have Darwin as a
capitol city in the Northern Territory. A place where most of these
"primatives" still live.
anybody that does not believe in god can eat a ***** sammich
and i will join you!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
05 Aug 2007 10:31:49 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:32:51 -0700, snowpheonix
<snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
Actually, One of the things I continually point out to Australian's is
this quote and another where he basically states that because they
wore piercings and tattos they were obviously of a lower species.
To me the irony is that to this date they still have Darwin as a
capitol city in the Northern Territory. A place where most of these
"primatives" still live.
If you want to be accepted as intelligent, learn English. Most
Australians are literate - why aren't you?
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| User: "" |
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30 Jul 2007 07:14:55 AM |
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On Jul 30, 7:55 pm, Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes... will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Quote mining now Lorr. This one is already dealt with by the t.o quote
mine project. Quote #2.10 dealt with under #4.10.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part2.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part4.html#DarwinRaceQuotes
Bill
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 07:57:50 AM |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:55:57 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the
civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace
the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the
anthropomorphous apes… will no doubt be exterminated. The break between
man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene
between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between
the negro or Australian and the gorilla. 1 Charles Darwin, The Descent
of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Interesting, isn't it, that Darwin's observations were of *CHRISTIAN*
civilizations that were wiping out other peoples?
Is that what upsets you? That he noticed the Christians were
exterminating other civilizations and replacing them?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
05 Aug 2007 08:48:41 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo skrev:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:55:57 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the
civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace
the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the
anthropomorphous apes... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between
man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene
between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between
the negro or Australian and the gorilla. 1 Charles Darwin, The Descent
of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
Interesting, isn't it, that Darwin's observations were of *CHRISTIAN*
civilizations that were wiping out other peoples?
Is that what upsets you? That he noticed the Christians were
exterminating other civilizations and replacing them?
Amusing. if one subscribes to 'Evolution Theory' there should be
nothing "embarrassing" about 'extermination' whatsoever.
Furthermore, the notion of extermination is not "embarrassing" to
Christianity to say the least, as it is a salient proposed possible
event in the eschataology.
My recommendation for you [or anyone] would be to read some Science
Fiction in this context,
such as Arthur Clarke's _Childhood's End_,
or perhaps even Olaf Stapledon's _First and Last Men_ or even _Odd
John_
don't rule out the possibility that humans might be LOWER on the
"Evolutionary" scale than certain enlightened races, who might see it
as merciful act to "reduce" or -- as the Federalist Papers might say
-- "refine the population" -- however "embarrasing" such might be.
LOL
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 03:07:16 AM |
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Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes… will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
--
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
"If you are informed by God, you can be misinformed by nobody" - Osama
Bin Laden
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| User: "Pt. Lurk Pt." |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 09:36:41 AM |
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"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.org> wrote in message
news:Xns997D5CC822Felvishnoshpamorg@194.177.96.26...
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes. will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
I think I can explain it this way:
Creationists hate Darwin on account of something he was right about;
therefore they try to make us hate him on account of something he was wrong
about...
L.
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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30 Jul 2007 11:25:59 AM |
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"Pt. Lurk" <Pt. Lurk@renvcom.net> wrote in
news:ZHmri.13515$gX5.6011@newsfe2-win.ntli.net to alt.atheism:
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.org> wrote in message
news:Xns997D5CC822Felvishnoshpamorg@194.177.96.26...
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes. will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
I think I can explain it this way:
Creationists hate Darwin on account of something he was right about;
therefore they try to make us hate him on account of something he was
wrong about...
L.
I guessed it was something like that. How the ***** do people like Lorr
find their waay out of bed in the morning?
--
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
"If you are informed by God, you can be misinformed by nobody" - Osama
Bin Laden
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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30 Jul 2007 11:48:45 AM |
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"Pt. Lurk" <Pt. Lurk@renvcom.net> wrote in message
news:ZHmri.13515$gX5.6011@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.org> wrote in message
news:Xns997D5CC822Felvishnoshpamorg@194.177.96.26...
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
In response to:
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes. will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
I think I can explain it this way:
Nominated portion:
Creationists hate Darwin on account of something he was right about;
therefore they try to make us hate him on account of something he was
wrong about...
That's an elegant way to put it!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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30 Jul 2007 11:59:50 PM |
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Denis Loubet:
That's an elegant way to put it!
Aye.
Theist's honorary second here ;)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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05 Aug 2007 08:51:29 AM |
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Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian skrev:
Denis Loubet:
That's an elegant way to put it!
Aye.
Theist's honorary second here ;)
or perhaps the other was simply playing a psychologist and projecting
-- and betraying -- his own moral brittleness.
remember -- when casting the rune of Thurisaz, be sure it is
accompanied by the Aesir or at least Tyr.
;)
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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30 Jul 2007 11:56:01 AM |
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On Jul 30, 9:48 am, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
"Pt. Lurk" <Pt. L...@renvcom.net> wrote in messagenews:ZHmri.13515$gX5.6011@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org> wrote in message
news:Xns997D5CC822Felvishnoshpamorg@194.177.96.26...
Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vn...@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
In response to:
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes. will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
I think I can explain it this way:
Nominated portion:
Creationists hate Darwin on account of something he was right about;
therefore they try to make us hate him on account of something he was
wrong about...
That's an elegant way to put it!
--
Denis Loubet
dlou...@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
Seconded.
Brenda nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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05 Aug 2007 07:58:49 AM |
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skyeyes wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:48 am, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
"Pt. Lurk" <Pt. L...@renvcom.net> wrote in messagenews:ZHmri.13515$gX5.6011@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org> wrote in message
news:Xns997D5CC822Felvishnoshpamorg@194.177.96.26...
Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote in news:BYSdnYvV4-
HYBDDbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vn...@comcast.com to alt.atheism:
In response to:
At some future period, not very distant as measured by
centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly
exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the
world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes. will no
doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest
allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man
in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the
Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as
now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
1 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York,
A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178
What's your point?
I think I can explain it this way:
Nominated portion:
Creationists hate Darwin on account of something he was right about;
therefore they try to make us hate him on account of something he was
wrong about...
That's an elegant way to put it!
--
Denis Loubet
dlou...@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
Seconded.
Recorded
Brenda nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism and Materialism |
30 Jul 2007 12:11:03 PM |
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Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://evolutiondeceit.com/special.php#1
At some future period,
Yours Maria?
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