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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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13 Jul 2007 05:11:08 PM |
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Darwinism Is Becoming The West's Myth |
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-culture-darwinism.html
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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13 Jul 2007 11:00:33 PM |
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The Idiot... Sound of Trumpet spewed...
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
Look at it like a break from a god making a man out of dirt and a
woman from a piece of bone.
You have the 'Idiots Book of Stupidity' to prove this and hundreds
of thousands of scientific hours proving, empirically that evolution
is fact.
'Goddidit' doesn't work for thinking people.
Do you have any scientific evidence to verify divine creation? Even
one tiny little thing?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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13 Jul 2007 05:26:49 PM |
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In article <1184364668.472530.193550@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
-- cary
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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13 Jul 2007 05:59:13 PM |
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On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
How SOT can type that (or copy-n-paste it) without his head exploding
is beyond me. ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:27:52 PM |
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In article <1184367553.952434.23390@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> writes:
On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
How SOT can type that (or copy-n-paste it) without his head exploding
is beyond me. ;->
I always figured he didn't actually READ the things, or just
far enough in to be sure that it was a denunciation of those
of us who Hate All Things Good and Decent.
But in his recent "Why Firefly Is Not Good Science Fiction,
But Heavyweight Atheist Propaganda" thread, he would
have had to read through an incredible amount of
fanboy-geek drivel -- you know, "Could the
Hulk take Superman if Bruce Banner had been
transformed by Kryptonite rathar than gamma rays?"
sort of logorrhea -- to discover the paragraph which mildly
criticized the show for not dealing more with religion.
So I'm now of the opinion that Sound of Trumpet is
actually ... well, have you ever heard of Nicolas Bourbaki?
Bourbaki was an incredibly productive French mathematician
who published a large amount of work in a variety
of mathematical fields -- until it turned out that
"Bourbaki" was actually a pseudonym for a whole group
of mathematicians, publishing under that name.
So me, I figure that "Sound of Trumpet" is actually
a cartel, A whole bunch of STrumpets, busily reading
away, cutting and pasting into the wee hours.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
-- cary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jul 2007 07:59:48 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:59:13 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in
the Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that
the main cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other
overuse) of antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
How SOT can type that (or copy-n-paste it) without his head exploding is
beyond me. ;->
Oh, there's nothing in it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "chazwin" |
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21 Jul 2007 03:52:48 AM |
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On 14 Jul, 01:59, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:59:13 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in
the Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that
the main cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other
overuse) of antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
How SOT can type that (or copy-n-paste it) without his head exploding is
beyond me. ;->
Oh, there's nothing in it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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21 Jul 2007 07:54:35 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:52:48 -0700, chazwin wrote:
On 14 Jul, 01:59, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:59:13 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion
of evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in
the Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority
that the main cause of the resistance is overprescription (and
other overuse) of antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
How SOT can type that (or copy-n-paste it) without his head exploding
is beyond me. ;->
Oh, there's nothing in it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic
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alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
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14 Jul 2007 08:57:15 AM |
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On Jul 13, 6:26 pm, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
Surely you don't imagine SoT and the people he
copies understand logic.
If they did we wouldn't observe these sad
yet ludicrous gyrations to disprove ordinary science.
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| User: "Michael Gordge" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:02:12 PM |
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On Jul 14, 7:26 am, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
Overprescription isn't in general the problem, the problem is people
dont do as their doctor prescribes, they stop the medication before
its finished killing the bug.
Its a full course of anti-biotics that are required, when the course
is not completed, then the bug only gets a *taste* of its enemy and to
ensure its survival it then builds a defence against it.
Life is like that, because if it wasn't it couldn't be.
Funny, but even religion couldn't survive unless it evolves, its not
that long ago that the christian mystics, Trumpet's ancestors, were
burning the witch-craft mystics alive and its even a shorter time ago
(the late 1800s) that the christian mystics were totally against the
use if anesthesia, because according to the mystics man's purpose in
life was to suffer pain.
Michael Gordge
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21 Jul 2007 03:52:33 AM |
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On 13 Jul, 23:26, (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1184364668.472530.193...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> writes:
Am I the only one who finds the juxtposition of paragraph A:
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
and paragraph B:
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
to be kind of...well, telling?
-- cary
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13 Jul 2007 08:29:42 PM |
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Last time that great scribe Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of
wisdom for posterity ...
I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics.
I have it on good authority that the main cause of long necked giraffes
was the over prescription of very tall branches.
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
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you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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14 Jul 2007 08:35:09 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:59:42 +0930, Meteorite Debris wrote:
Last time that great scribe Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of
wisdom for posterity ...
I have it on good authority that the main cause of the resistance is
overprescription (and other overuse) of antibiotics.
I have it on good authority that the main cause of long necked giraffes
was the over prescription of very tall branches.
<SNORK>
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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13 Jul 2007 10:35:30 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
This is completely irrelevant to the truth or falsity of either
belief, dipshit.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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14 Jul 2007 01:07:14 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-culture-darwinism.html
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
What the ***** kind of dichotomy is THAT?
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
If anyone would be able to recognize "profound incoherency", it would be
him!
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors, June
3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other speakers
attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray practice )
is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the great
evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes, "Seen in
the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually the most
satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it becomes a pile
of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but making no
meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology addressing
human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and our pathogens,
the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to our antibiotics,
and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease all gain
significance when viewed in the context of continuing evolution. These
subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also known as
"evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when they
appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and people who
live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He either
drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
Perhaps there is more to know about alcoholism than the assumption that it
is only the result of "moral weakness?" How about "moral weakness"
itself. Could it be treatable with medication? Would hypocritical
buffoons like Ted Haggard, and half the GOP members of Congress, be able
to practice what they preach?
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If the
Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I doubt
that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as she must
have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she wants
obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one who can
really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be persuaded
that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
Dream on. I suspect it will do less harm than burning children at the
stake for witchcraft, exorcisms, and other religiously inspired treatments.
--
MarkA
(My OTHER sig line is clever)
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13 Jul 2007 05:53:19 PM |
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On Jul 13, 11:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
"Darwinism Is Becoming The West's Myth" - Osama Bin Laden
IFYPFY.
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13 Jul 2007 08:23:50 PM |
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On Jul 13, 11:11 pm, Sound off Muppet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
***** and die you speciesist bollocks.
"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
way of a whole human being". (Abraham Lincoln).
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On Jul 13, 3:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
alt.anarchism, alt.philosophy, alt.talk.creationism, rec.arts.sf.written
Why is rec.arts.sf.written included? What a wanker.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
1. Do you have any problem with Xians supporting bombing civilian
targets in Iraq and the death penalty in the US? What part of "Thou
Shalt Not Kill" don't you understand? Hypocrit much?
2. "Who would you rationally trust with your medical treatment?" he
asked. "A doctor who believes in 2000 year old fairy tales? Or a
physician that actually uses the scientific method to determine your
illness?"
/BC
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14 Jul 2007 01:19:30 PM |
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On Jul 13, 3:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
Its about time we started getting the right myth. May the myth with
the most evidence win, if we are driven to have myths, that is. What
alternative myth would you suggest? The one where a God could not
cause life to evolve just like science claims?
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
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13 Jul 2007 10:44:05 PM |
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On Jul 13, 5:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
[...]
Ah, another Christian kook with a blog.
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19 Jul 2007 01:33:32 PM |
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Sadly true, also another post filled with ill-researched snippets cut
and pasted from the internet-the usual crap so many of these groups are
filled with. I'd be genuinely interested to know how many of the
"arguments" posted here are original,or if the authors have even studied
philosophy, ethics,or religon (i don't count bible class on sunday as
that-they may as well be in a madrassa endlessly reciting chunks of text
they can barely understand)
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13 Jul 2007 06:42:30 PM |
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On Jul 13, 5:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
Quit confusing biological evolution with cultural evolution.
Human medical science is an example of cultural evolution in action,
not Darwinism.
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21 Jul 2007 03:53:00 AM |
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On 14 Jul, 00:42, HayekFan <sallymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 13, 5:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
Quit confusing biological evolution with cultural evolution.
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On Jul 21, 9:53 am, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 14 Jul, 00:42, HayekFan <sallymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 13, 5:11 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
http://post-darwinist.blogspot.com/2007/06/darwinism-and-popular-cult...
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism becoming the West's myth,
doctor says
My friend and colleague Deborah Gyapong reports on a recent talk by
Dr. John Patrick, Ottawa pediatrician and retired professor of
medicine, noting that
the "Darwinian myth" is becoming the "ordering myth" for the West,
replacing the Christian story, with potentially disastrous
consequences.
"Who would you rationally trust when we legalize doctor-assisted
suicide?" he asked. "A Darwinist physician or a doctor who believes in
judgment after death?"
Darwin's theories of natural selection, survival of the fittest and of
evolutionary progress are making an impact on health care, even though
Patrick describes the art of medicine as "very anti-Darwinist" in its
care for the sick and the vulnerable. But that is changing as society
becomes "profoundly incoherent," he said.
Patrick was speaking at a conference of Christian medical doctors,
June 3-9 at St. Augustine College in Ottawa. Unfortunately, other
speakers attempted to soothe the audience with tales of some kind of
accommodation with Darwinism, as long as the Darwinists would just
remember that Darwinism is not supposed to be the ordering myth of the
West. Yeah really.
The most interesting aspect of the current aggressive promotion of
evolutionary medicine (Darwinism in medicine and veterinaray
practice ) is its sheer clinical uselessness.
The proclamations are grand, to be sure:
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution," is
the oft-quoted title of a 1973 article for biology teachers by the
great evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky. In it, he writes,
"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually
the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it
becomes a pile of sundry facts some of them interesting or curious but
making no meaningful picture as a whole."
Evolution's role is equally central in the subset of biology
addressing human health and disease. The co-evolution of humans and
our pathogens, the rapidly shifting resistance of those pathogens to
our antibiotics, and our persistent vulnerability to chronic disease
all gain significance when viewed in the context of continuing
evolution. These subjects form the core of "Darwinian medicine," also
known as "evolutionary medicine."
But how exactly do these ills "gain significance when viewed in the
context of continuing evolution"? For the purpose of counselling and
treatment of the patient in the present day, it hardly matters when
they appeared or who - besides immediate ancestors and sibs, and
people who live nearby - has them.
Consider, for example, an illness for which there is apparently a
genetic predisposition: alcoholism. Fundamentally, the patient has
decisions to make (Will I drink or not? Will I get drunk or not?) What
if Alley Oop had the same problem? What if he didn't?
For that matter, what if there is really no genetic predisposition to
alcoholism? It makes no difference to the patient in the end. He
either drinks or he doesn't, and accepts the consequences.
One could say the same thing about obesity, that other scourge of the
family practitioner's office in prosperous countries everywhere. If
the Willendorf Venus was fat, so what? What if she had been thin? I
doubt that most Stone Age women were as certain of their next meal as
she must have been. But in the end, today's woman decides whether she
wants obesity, along with its problems, or not. And she's the only one
who can really do something about it.
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics. We helped the bugs get where they are. We could stop
helping them. But that doesn't mean telling the old, old story of
Darwinism over and over again; it means getting patients to accept
alternative treatments. They will only do that if they can be
persuaded that other approaches work.
I suspect that Darwinian medicine will just go the way of evolutionary
psychology. I wonder how much harm it will do first.
Quit confusing biological evolution with cultural evolution.
Human medical science is an example of cultural evolution in action,
not Darwinism.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
To avoid ***** suckers, sheep shaggers, spammers and religious nutters
AND to enjoy a expletive free philosophy News Group join
"philosophise"!
Your reasonable and thoughtful contributions are most welcome.
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21 Jul 2007 04:24:48 AM |
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chazwin <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1185007980.999724.325570
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
To avoid ***** suckers, sheep shaggers, spammers and religious nutters
AND to enjoy a expletive free philosophy News Group join
"philosophise"!
How do I avoid idiots like you?
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On Jul 21, 10:24 am, Gene Ward Smith <ge...@chewbacca.org> wrote:
chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1185007980.999724.325570
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
To avoid ***** suckers, sheep shaggers, spammers and religious nutters
AND to enjoy a expletive free philosophy News Group join
"philosophise"!
How do I avoid idiots like you?
BY shoving your head up your own arse as you usually do!
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13 Jul 2007 07:58:18 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:42:30 -0700, HayekFan wrote:
<piggybacking, Squawking Turd is in my killfile>
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics
Oh damn, do they get any stupider than this?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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13 Jul 2007 08:44:34 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:42:30 -0700, HayekFan wrote:
<piggybacking, Squawking Turd is in my killfile>
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics
Oh damn, do they get any stupider than this?
Excuse me, but I believe he said he had that on "good authority".
You...you scoffing person, you.
How come no one ever says "I have it on bad authority that..."
or "I have it on the best authority I can afford right through
now" or "I have it on authority that can beat your authority up that..."?
- cary
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15 Jul 2007 12:57:09 AM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:42:30 -0700, HayekFan wrote:
<piggybacking, Squawking Turd is in my killfile>
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics
Oh damn, do they get any stupider than this?
Excuse me, but I believe he said he had that on "good authority".
You...you scoffing person, you.
Good authority -- that can only mean --
Gawd told him so!
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
Lord We˙rdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/clorebeast/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
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14 Jul 2007 08:38:07 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:44:34 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:42:30 -0700, HayekFan wrote:
<piggybacking, Squawking Turd is in my killfile>
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the
main cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse)
of antibiotics
Oh damn, do they get any stupider than this?
Excuse me, but I believe he said he had that on "good authority".
You...you scoffing person, you.
Oh! No! He cited "good authority"? I am bereft.
How come no one ever says "I have it on bad authority that..." or "I
have it on the best authority I can afford right through now" or "I have
it on authority that can beat your authority up that..."?
Or have it on Cartmanesque athoritaih...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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13 Jul 2007 08:57:39 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:58:18 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:42:30 -0700, HayekFan wrote:
<piggybacking, Squawking Turd is in my killfile>
Similarly, with antibiotic resistance (an often-cited passage in the
Gospel According to Darwin), I have it on good authority that the main
cause of the resistance is overprescription (and other overuse) of
antibiotics
Oh damn, do they get any stupider than this?
If you need to ask, you haven't heard from very many of them.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
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