Religions > Atheism > DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD!
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DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
It offers invalid "proofs." All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation, but it maintains just the opposite. It seeks to persuade us
that great artists and brilliant scientists came into existence through
a chance arrangement of proteins; the odds against that ever happening
are 1 in 10950 - in other words, impossible. It even seeks to convince
us that university professors who thus emerged do research on how they,
themselves, came into being by chance!
Darwinism regards the way that a living cell's chromosomes contain more
coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance. It
insists that merely by the divine power of chance, unconscious atoms
developed over eons into seeing, hearing, conscious human beings. For
Darwinism, the deity that works miracles is chance. Now in these books,
you can read for yourself the newly-discovered evidence that removes
the dark spell of Darwinism once and for all.
1. Darwinism no longer claims that proteins could have formed through
"evolution." The odds against even a single protein emerging randomly
in its correct sequence is 10950 to 1 - a mathematical impossibility.
2. Darwinism no longer presents fossils as evidence of evolution. All
the worldwide excavations down to the present day have not unearthed a
single one of the mythical "intermediate forms" or "missing links," of
which evolutionists once claimed there should be millions.
3. Evolutionists despair in the face of the countless fossils
discovered so far. That's because each one is of a kind that supports
and proves creation.
4. Evolutionists no longer maintain that Archaeopteryx was the
forerunner of birds. The latest research into Archaeopteryx fossils
totally invalidates the claim that this creature was "half-bird," and
shows that it possessed the full anatomy and brain structure needed for
flight, so the myth of "avian evolution" has become untenable.
5. Darwinism no longer points to the erroneous sequence of fossils, in
which the modern horse is supposedly the final result. The fossils
represent independent species that lived at different times, and in
different places.
6. Darwinism can no longer use the fossil Coelacanth to support the
myth of life's transition from water to land. This creature, once
claimed to be an extinct intermediate form, is a bottom-dwelling fish
of which more than 200 living specimens have been caught.
7. Darwinism can no longer maintain that fossil creatures like
Ramapithecus and the Australopithecus subspecies (A. Bosei, A.
Robustus, A. Aferensis, A. Africanus, etc.) were the ancestors of man.
Research has demonstrated that they are totally unrelated to human
beings and are extinct species of ape.
8. Darwinism can no longer deceive people with artists'
"reconstructions" of animals that once lived. Scientists have revealed
that reconstructions based on the skeletal remains are of no scientific
value and are completely untrustworthy.
9. Darwinism can no longer point to Piltdown Man as evidence for
evolution. No such fossil as "Piltdown Man" ever existed! For 40 years,
people were deceived by a hoax - an orangutan's jawbone added to a
human cranium.
10. Darwinism can no longer maintain that Nebraska Man and its alleged
family confirm evolution. The remains of "Nebraska Man's" molar tooth
actually belonged to an extinct species of wild pig.
11. Darwinism can no longer maintain that natural selection gave rise
to evolution. Science has proven that this mechanism cannot cause
living things to acquire new characteristics and thus, "evolve."
Darwinists have offered a great deal more misinformation than the above
examples, and time has totally invalidated them all. For example, the
mutations once claimed to "fuel" evolution, actually have a destructive
effect, bringing not improvements but sickness, deformity or death. The
structure in the human embryo that Darwinists once identified as gills
is actually the beginning of the middle-ear canal, the parathyroid, and
the thymus gland. It's been revealed that drawings of embryos were
later altered to support evolution. It's been discovered that the
genetic information for bacteria's resistance to antibiotics has
actually existed in their DNA since they came into being.
HARUN YAHYA'S WORKS REFUTING THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION ARE AVAILABLE ALL
OVER THE WORLD
So far, the books of Harun Yahya have been translated into 41
languages, and are now available to millions worldwide. In some
countries, books dealing with the collapse of the theory of evolution
have even been placed on official school curricula. Called
"irrefutable" by evolutionists, these books have attracted enormous
interest.
For more information please visit www.harunyahya.com
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 10:55:30 AM |
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<harunyahya2011@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
But they do.
It offers invalid "proofs."
No. It offers a model and evidence to support it.
All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation,
How so?
It seeks to persuade us
that great artists and brilliant scientists came into existence through
a chance arrangement of proteins;
....plus weeding out the ones that don't work through natural selection over
billions of years.
the odds against that ever happening
are 1 in 10950 - in other words, impossible.
Whose ***** did you pull that figure out of?
It even seeks to convince
us that university professors who thus emerged do research on how they,
themselves, came into being by chance!
Uh, no.
Darwinism regards the way that a living cell's chromosomes contain more
coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance.
Uh, no.
It
insists that merely by the divine power of chance,
"divine" chance?
unconscious atoms
developed over eons into seeing, hearing, conscious human beings.
Even now, you are made out of trillions of unconscious atoms.
For
Darwinism, the deity that works miracles is chance.
Not chance alone. It also has non-random natural selection.
Now in these books,
you can read for yourself the newly-discovered evidence that removes
the dark spell of Darwinism once and for all.
What book? The Buybull?
HARUN YAHYA'S WORKS REFUTING THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION ARE AVAILABLE ALL
OVER THE WORLD
Who cares what some pseudoscientist nutcase thinks?
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| User: "turk" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:45:48 AM |
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<harunyahya2011@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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9. Darwinism can no longer point to Piltdown Man as evidence for
evolution. No such fossil as "Piltdown Man" ever existed! For 40 years,
people were deceived by a hoax - an orangutan's jawbone added to a
human cranium.
And scientists discovered it was a fake and came out and denounced it. You
Christers still cling to the Shroud of Turin and the Paluxy prints even
though they are discredited completely.
turk
--
My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:13:42 AM |
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<harunyahya2011@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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9. Darwinism can no longer point to Piltdown Man as evidence for
evolution. No such fossil as "Piltdown Man" ever existed! For 40 years,
people were deceived by a hoax - an orangutan's jawbone added to a
human cranium.
Hmmmm. And *who* was it that discovered 'Piltdown Man' was a forgery?
Let's see, I'll have to turn to a 'good' science book and see who did that.
Hmmmm. It's not in Genesis. Hmmmm. It's not in Leviticus. Ahhhhh, here it
is! It's in the Gospel According to Matthew: ''And Jesus said unto a future
smarty-pants, 'Piltdown man will be proven to be a forgery - and
'scientists'
will demonstrate this beyond any doubt.'" (Mt. 28:32) It's in the Koran too.
Just look up the corresponding passage. (Damn, Jesus and Muhammad were
truly 'psychic' weren't they?)
I guess *most* scientists have a high degree of integrity - unlike *most*
ultra-religious people.
Greywolf
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| User: "Ash" |
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05 Sep 2005 11:44:24 AM |
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Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
It offers invalid "proofs." All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation, but it maintains just the opposite. It seeks to persuade us
that great artists and brilliant scientists came into existence through
a chance arrangement of proteins; the odds against that ever happening
are 1 in 10950 - in other words, impossible. It even seeks to convince
us that university professors who thus emerged do research on how they,
themselves, came into being by chance!
Darwinism regards the way that a living cell's chromosomes contain more
coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance. It
insists that merely by the divine power of chance, unconscious atoms
developed over eons into seeing, hearing, conscious human beings. For
Darwinism, the deity that works miracles is chance. Now in these books,
you can read for yourself the newly-discovered evidence that removes
the dark spell of Darwinism once and for all.
1. Darwinism no longer claims that proteins could have formed through
"evolution." The odds against even a single protein emerging randomly
in its correct sequence is 10950 to 1 - a mathematical impossibility.
Where did you pull that number from?
2. Darwinism no longer presents fossils as evidence of evolution. All
the worldwide excavations down to the present day have not unearthed a
single one of the mythical "intermediate forms" or "missing links," of
which evolutionists once claimed there should be millions.
Apart from the large number of intermediate fossils I suppose
4. Evolutionists no longer maintain that Archaeopteryx was the
forerunner of birds. The latest research into Archaeopteryx fossils
totally invalidates the claim that this creature was "half-bird," and
shows that it possessed the full anatomy and brain structure needed for
flight, so the myth of "avian evolution" has become untenable.
This not being true kind of detracts from it. Perhaps you should read up
on archeopterix. Or even on evolution. Scientists don't claim any
particluar fossil to be a forerunner of others. just that it shows the
characteristics that would be expected.
5. Darwinism no longer points to the erroneous sequence of fossils, in
which the modern horse is supposedly the final result. The fossils
represent independent species that lived at different times, and in
different places.
Well, that is kind of the idea
7. Darwinism can no longer maintain that fossil creatures like
Ramapithecus and the Australopithecus subspecies (A. Bosei, A.
Robustus, A. Aferensis, A. Africanus, etc.) were the ancestors of man.
Research has demonstrated that they are totally unrelated to human
beings and are extinct species of ape.
No it hasn't. and once more, the claim isn't that they are the
ancestors. There is no way looking at a fossil that we can say for sure
it was part of the line that led to man, or an offshoot that was later
superceded
9. Darwinism can no longer point to Piltdown Man as evidence for
evolution. No such fossil as "Piltdown Man" ever existed! For 40 years,
people were deceived by a hoax - an orangutan's jawbone added to a
human cranium.
Nor did they ever
10. Darwinism can no longer maintain that Nebraska Man and its alleged
family confirm evolution. The remains of "Nebraska Man's" molar tooth
actually belonged to an extinct species of wild pig.
See 9
11. Darwinism can no longer maintain that natural selection gave rise
to evolution. Science has proven that this mechanism cannot cause
living things to acquire new characteristics and thus, "evolve."
Natural selection deals with how new characteristics are spread, it is
not about how they appear in the first place
yawn
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 12:41:18 PM |
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Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
It offers invalid "proofs." All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation, but it maintains just the opposite. It seeks to persuade us
that great artists and brilliant scientists came into existence through
a chance arrangement of proteins; the odds against that ever happening
are 1 in 10950 - in other words, impossible. It even seeks to convince
us that university professors who thus emerged do research on how they,
themselves, came into being by chance!
Thanks for a post chock full o' sheer *****. I really do enjoy
reading that "scientists have proven ____" when, of course, they have
done no such thing. You included no real references, and your linked
website (http://www.harunyahya.com/) is an absolute joke. Let's look at
the heading under 'Refutation of Darwinism,' shall we?
"The philosophy that skepticism is the key feature of science is based
on the idea that scientific development is possible only through
doubting. But if science’s key feature is indeed skepticism, then in the
same way they believe that chance brought everything into being,
Darwinists should also admit the possibility that everything is created
by God. Since skepticism is indispensable in science, then they should
admit a 50% possibility that God created living things."
Let's see... Where to start...
First off, the author demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the
English language. "Skepticism" and "doubting" DO NOT MEAN "accept every
available possibility blindly and assign them a 50/50 probability for
absolutely no reason whatso-fucking-ever." "Skepticism" and "doubting"
mean "an assumption of doubt with the aim of acquiring approximate or
certain relativity." The site then tries to sell *books* about the
author's inability to understanding English.
Second of all, there are no "Darwinists." That's an intentionally
inaccurate label, much as referring to physicists as "Newtonians" or
"Einsteinians." They are referred to as "biologists" and "physicists."
Here are some more book headings that are full of more inaccuracies:
"Today, science has proven that the universe was created from
nothingness with a Big Bang. Moreover, all physical balances of the
universe are designed to support human life. From the nuclear reactions
in stars to the chemical properties of atoms, everything is created in a
great harmony."
Wrong.
"Incredibly complex structures of the living beings which were thought
to be unsophisticated by Darwin… Perfect design examples in living
bodies from human body to plants, from insects to birds."
There are no examples of perfect design. Wrong.
I can go on, but if I've learned anything about creationist websites, I
know that it's a waste of of time to argue with the people that hype
them. They've got their fingers so deep in their ears they can pick at
a hangnail with their frontal lobe.
I just don't understand you people. You have absolutely no qualms about
believing in an interstellar superhero that can fire thunder and
lightning out his divine *****, yet balk at and fight to the death one of
the best supported scientific theories ever. Get your priorities
straight. There is no need for divine intervention in science.
--
James B
aa #944
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
-David Hume
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04 Sep 2005 02:34:04 PM |
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Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
It offers invalid "proofs." All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation, but it maintains just the opposite. It seeks to persuade us
that great artists and brilliant scientists came into existence through
a chance arrangement of proteins; the odds against that ever happening
are 1 in 10950 - in other words, impossible. It even seeks to convince
us that university professors who thus emerged do research on how they,
themselves, came into being by chance!
[...]
Harun Yahya
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Harun%20Yahya%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harun+Yahya%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harun+Yahya%22&btnG=Search+Directory&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Harun%20Yahya%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&scoring=d&tab=wg
Enemies of Science & Knowledge
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/947053a275f8d971
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| User: "Derek" |
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04 Sep 2005 05:48:28 PM |
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"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
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| User: "Rev Dr Lenny Flank" |
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04 Sep 2005 06:22:39 PM |
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Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "Ron O" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:52:38 AM |
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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Don't you mean the same "kind" of nut under the shell?
Ron Okimoto
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| User: "Rev Dr Lenny Flank" |
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05 Sep 2005 09:07:48 AM |
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Ron O wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Don't you mean the same "kind" of nut under the shell?
Ron Okimoto
I dunno, since they consistently refuse to tell us what the heck a
"kind" is. ;>
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "Katt" |
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05 Sep 2005 11:00:57 AM |
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"'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank" <lflank@ij.net> wrote in message
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I dunno, since they consistently refuse to tell us what the heck a
"kind" is. ;>
Well, let me tell you, then! By 'kind' they mean *whatever the hell they
need to mean* in order to get their imaginary 'god' out of *whatever danger
of refutation* 'he' and his 'holy book' are *currently faced with*.
For as has been well said hereabouts: when push comes to shove, these
people's 'faith' has only *two* essential 'fixed points': their 'god' (i)
really, really, really exists; and (ii) cannot be disproved.
And that's *all there is to it*: everything else - every other detail, every
other 'fact', every other seemingly immutable element of their 'deeply held'
dogma - is actually moveable, changeable, in the service of (i) and (ii)...
Katt.
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04 Sep 2005 06:32:55 PM |
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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
Hey Lenny! Long time no see! How are you? Hope you made it through all
the hurricanes OK- your herps too, of course.
Glad to see ya posting.
Chris
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| User: "Rev Dr Lenny Flank" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:23:07 PM |
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wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
Hey Lenny! Long time no see! How are you? Hope you made it through all
the hurricanes OK- your herps too, of course.
Glad to see ya posting.
Chris
I do try to drop in from time to time, just to see if anything is new.
Alas, seems to be just the same old creationuts as before. None of
them are worth wasting any time on. (shrug)
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "Cheezits" |
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04 Sep 2005 10:17:45 PM |
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"'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank" <lflank@ij.net> wrote:
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
[etc.]
Hey Lenny! Long time no see!
[etc.]
I do try to drop in from time to time, just to see if anything is new.
Alas, seems to be just the same old creationuts as before. None of
them are worth wasting any time on. (shrug)
You could always waste time talking to us evolutionuts.
Sue
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"Feeling stupid? I know I am!" - Homer Simpson
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| User: "magilla" |
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05 Sep 2005 08:55:25 AM |
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'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
Hey Lenny! Long time no see! How are you? Hope you made it through all
the hurricanes OK- your herps too, of course.
Glad to see ya posting.
Chris
I do try to drop in from time to time, just to see if anything is new.
Alas, seems to be just the same old creationuts as before. None of
them are worth wasting any time on. (shrug)
Not really. Pagano pops up very now and then, gets pasted by someone
like StevenJ, then disappears for another few weeks. Glenn is still
around, though not as much as before. He tries to make up for it with
increased invective I think. YoYo is posting these idiot screeds but he
never sticks around to reply to any responses, so that's not so
entertaining (although some of the replies are educational). The most
interesting things are commentaries on the various news pieces and
current events. As usual, I guess.
Chris
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "Rev Dr Lenny Flank" |
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05 Sep 2005 09:10:00 AM |
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magilla wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:
Derek wrote:
"Enemies of Science & Knowledge"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it's the first time i've read this. Says
it all really. Bwahahahahahahahhaha!
Actually tears in the eyes, i can't stop!!!!
See ya later!
Indeed, that certainly seems to sum up fundamentalism (whether the
Islamic or Christian variety) in a nutshell, huh.
No wonder the Holy Yoyos and AIG/ICR get along so well with each other.
They are brothers under the skin.
Hey Lenny! Long time no see! How are you? Hope you made it through all
the hurricanes OK- your herps too, of course.
Glad to see ya posting.
Chris
I do try to drop in from time to time, just to see if anything is new.
Alas, seems to be just the same old creationuts as before. None of
them are worth wasting any time on. (shrug)
Not really. Pagano pops up very now and then, gets pasted by someone
like StevenJ, then disappears for another few weeks. Glenn is still
around, though not as much as before. He tries to make up for it with
increased invective I think. YoYo is posting these idiot screeds but he
never sticks around to reply to any responses, so that's not so
entertaining (although some of the replies are educational). The most
interesting things are commentaries on the various news pieces and
current events. As usual, I guess.
I find it illuminating that the "serious" ID/creationists are avoiding
open forums like a vampire avoids holy water. Apparently they prefer
to cloister themselves in their own little hermetic universes, like
Dembski's blog, where they can censor out the big bad world.
They are beaten, badly, and they know it. Dover will kill them dead.
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "TomS" |
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05 Sep 2005 10:08:22 AM |
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"On 5 Sep 2005 07:10:00 -0700, in article
<1125929400.758691.153450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, 'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank
stated..."
[...snip...]
I find it illuminating that the "serious" ID/creationists are avoiding
open forums like a vampire avoids holy water. Apparently they prefer
to cloister themselves in their own little hermetic universes, like
Dembski's blog, where they can censor out the big bad world.
They are beaten, badly, and they know it. Dover will kill them dead.
I don't understand your glee.
Oh, yes, some day it will go away, but it won't be defeated.
It will never be defeated, it will just be forgotten about as
some other issue becomes more important. Anti-evolution will become
something like bimetallism, something that will just be one more boring
thing that they will hear about in their history lessons. (I feel
sorry for those future generations. If you think bimetallism is
boring and muddled ... )
As long as people misunderstand evolution, and think that ID has
something to offer; as long as there are financial backers; as long
as public figures find that they can exploit it; there will be anti-evolutionism
in one form or another.
And, unfortunately, when it goes away, there will be some other
thing to fill its niche.
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---Tom S. <http://talkreason.org/articles/chickegg.cfm>
"The utmost, therefore that the argument [derived from the analogy with human
art] can prove is an _architect of the world, who is always very much hampered
by the adaptabilities of the material in which he works, not a _creator of the
world to whose idea everything is subject." Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, A627
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| User: "Rev Dr Lenny Flank" |
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| Title: Re: Harun Yahya |
05 Sep 2005 12:39:44 PM |
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TomS wrote:
<sniop>
It will never be defeated, it will just be forgotten about as
some other issue becomes more important.
<snip>
Works for me. (shrug)
As for whatever else comes along, well, the price of liberty, and all
that. . .
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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation email list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation/
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| User: "Vivapadrepios personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 09:05:12 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
HARUN YAHYA'S WORKS REFUTING THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION ARE AVAILABLE ALL
OVER THE WORLD
So is donkey *****.
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David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 01:20:06 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:05:12 +0100, Vivapadrepio's personal Cthulhu
<cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote:
Cometh the hour, cometh
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
HARUN YAHYA'S WORKS REFUTING THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION ARE AVAILABLE ALL
OVER THE WORLD
So is donkey *****.
And of the two, I'll wager donkey ***** is by far the more useful.
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David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 06:51:50 AM |
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In episode <1125830388.510930.204520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
harunyahya2011 burst into the room and exclaimed:
DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT
No it's not.
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
05 Sep 2005 12:56:45 AM |
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On 4 Sep 2005 03:39:48 -0700 the ET form known as
harunyahya2011@yahoo.com<harunyahya2011@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal
across the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
HARUN YAHYA'S WORKS REFUTING THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION ARE AVAILABLE ALL
OVER THE WORLD
Liar
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Remove YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
07 Sep 2005 07:40:09 AM |
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On 4 Sep 2005 03:39:48 -0700, wrote:
Darwinism claims that intermediate fossils exist, when they do not ...
It offers invalid "proofs." All the fossils discovered clearly verify
creation,
<SNIP>
At best, you are seriously misinformed.
Ben
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
06 Sep 2005 06:37:17 PM |
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On 4 Sep 2005 03:39:48 -0700, wrote:
Snip most of the bollix.
9. Darwinism can no longer point to Piltdown Man as evidence for
evolution. No such fossil as "Piltdown Man" ever existed! For 40 years,
people were deceived by a hoax - an orangutan's jawbone added to a
human cranium.
10. Darwinism can no longer maintain that Nebraska Man and its alleged
family confirm evolution. The remains of "Nebraska Man's" molar tooth
actually belonged to an extinct species of wild pig.
So who was it that proved that Piltdown man, was a fake, and that Nabraska man,
was an error?
Was it something that was found in the bible?
...Or was it something that was found in a lab, by scientists, studying
evolution?
As I recall, it was the latter.
By the by. Piltdown man was never really accepted by science, even though it
found it's way into school books.
Scientists were not convinced, and there was some suggestion that it was a hoax,
perpetrated by a local vicar, or some such.
I wonder why a good, honest xtian, would want to commit such a fraud?
Snip the rest of the bolix.
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| User: "Joseki" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 07:21:28 AM |
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This series of "observations" was stolen from:
http://www.harunyahya.com/new_releases/news/evolution_ad.php
You know good manners and civilized behavoir generally recomends that
you credit others when you take credit for their work. Again and again
IDers and creationists don't seem to understand this fairly simple
concept. Is this a Bblical command of some sort? "If thou likes an
arguement it if thou's duty to steal it." Rufus 9:8?
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND CAN NO LONGER DECEIVE THE WORLD! |
04 Sep 2005 02:37:38 PM |
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keep clicking the ruby shoes
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