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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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13 Mar 2006 04:59:31 PM |
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Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/10552
Roots of genocide
Interview: Richard Weikart on how Hitler was Darwin's ideological
grandson
Marvin Olasky
Phillip Johnson, leader of the Intelligent Design movement, writes,
"The philosophy that fueled German militarism and Hitlerism is taught
as fact in every American public school, with no disagreement
allowed."
That philosophy is Darwinism, and its influence on Adolf Hitler has
been much debated-but Richard Weikart, a professor at California
State University-Stanislaus and a Research Fellow at the Discovery
Institute, should close the debate with a well-researched, scholarly
book, From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism
in Germany (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004). He shows how Darwinism made
abortion and racial extermination keys to progress rather than
reversions to barbarism, and convincingly argues that Hitler built his
view of ethics on Darwinian rather than nihilistic principles.
WORLD: When late 19th- and early 20th-century Darwinians examined the
value of human life through their new lens, what did they tend to find?
WEIKART: Not all Darwinists agreed, but many leading Darwinists, such
as Ernst Haeckel, claimed that the descent of humans from animals
overthrew the "anthropocentric fable." In their zeal to explain all
human traits naturalistically, Darwin and Haeckel denied that humans
have a soul. Because of this, many Darwinists rejected the
Judeo-Christian sanctity-of-human-life ethic. Further, since the human
struggle for existence produces mass death, many Darwinists saw the
death of the "unfit" as a means to evolutionary progress. Some even
took the next step to propose that killing the "unfit" (i.e., the
disabled and inferior races) would benefit humanity.
WORLD: How did Darwinism contribute to moral relativism and make
evolutionary progress, supposedly brought about by racial struggle, the
greatest good?
WEIKART: Darwin argued that morality evolved from "social
instincts" of animals. He explained that moral characteristics, such
as loyalty or honesty, are biological traits favoring groups who
possessed them in the human struggle for existence. In his
autobiography Darwin confessed that one "can have for his rule of
life, as far as I can see, only to follow those impulses and instincts
which are the strongest or which seem to him the best ones."
Ironically, while relativizing morality, many Darwinists inconsistently
made evolutionary progress a new moral goal: Whatever contributed to
the health and vitality of the human species was morally justified, and
whatever led to biological degeneration was evil.
WORLD: What are the major historical connections between Darwinism and
Hitler's ideology?
WEIKART: German biologists, anthropologists, physicians, and other
scholars used Darwinian theory to promote eugenics, euthanasia,
infanticide, abortion, and racial extermination long before Hitler
arrived on the scene. Many of these thinkers would have been aghast at
the Holocaust, since few were as rabidly anti-Semitic as Hitler, and
some were even Jews themselves. Nonetheless, their philosophy of death
for the "unfit" had a strong influence on Hitler's ideology. The
world-renowned geneticist Fritz Lenz even bragged that Hitler's
worldview was shaped by Lenz's writings on human heredity, eugenics,
and racism.
WORLD: How did Hitler's Mein Kampf reflect a belief in an inescapable
Darwinian struggle for existence?
WEIKART: Darwinist terminology and concepts are prominent in many of
Hitler's writings and speeches. In Mein Kampf he stated, "If
reproduction as such is limited and the number of births decreased,
then the natural struggle for existence, which only allows the
strongest and healthiest to survive, will be replaced by the obvious
desire to save at any cost even the weakest and sickest; thereby a
progeny is produced, which must become ever more miserable, the longer
this mocking of nature and its will persists. . . . A stronger race
will supplant the weaker, since the drive for life in its final form
will decimate every ridiculous fetter of the so-called humaneness of
individuals, in order to make place for the humaneness of nature, which
destroys the weak to make place for the strong." This quotation
illustrates my assertion that Hitler promoted an evolutionary ethic.
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
13 Mar 2006 08:10:33 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in message
news:1142290771.637524.25210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/10552
Roots of genocide
Interview: Richard Weikart on how Hitler was Darwin's ideological
grandson
Social Darwinism has nothing to do with Darwin's theory, and Darwin himself
would have been the first to repudiate it. The only people holding onto
Social Darwinism now are republican fascists
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| User: "Tim K." |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
17 Mar 2006 05:50:19 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in message
news:1142290771.637524.25210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That is simply moronic.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
14 Mar 2006 07:10:50 AM |
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In <1142290771.637524.25210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Sound of
Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
Phillip Johnson,
....is a lying, dishonest *****...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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I just love this...
"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC
Um... didn't foresee what exactly?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CA129BC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
14 Mar 2006 07:20:54 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:10:50 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <1142290771.637524.25210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Sound of
Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
Phillip Johnson,
...is a lying, dishonest *****...
He was on talk.origins for a while a decade ago, acting like a sleazy
courtroom lawyer.
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
13 Mar 2006 07:06:27 PM |
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In news:1142290771.637524.25210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com "Sound of
Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
http://www.worldmag.com
"We stand for factual accuracy and biblical objectivity, trying to see
the world as best we can the way the Bible depicts it."
http://www.worldmag.com/world_about_us.cfm
How can you utter a statement like that without having your tongue leap
out of your mouth and try to strangle you?
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "Tim K." |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
17 Mar 2006 05:49:57 PM |
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"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9785C260EC34FVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
How can you utter a statement like that without having your tongue leap
out of your mouth and try to strangle you?
heh, nice one!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Control-Freaks Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
14 Mar 2006 10:30:28 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/10552
Roots of genocide
Interview: Richard Weikart on how Hitler was Darwin's ideological
grandson
Genocide goes back thousands of years and appear in the Old Testament
of the Bible as a Good Thing.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Elmer" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
13 Mar 2006 07:48:44 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
(snip)
Phillip Johnson, leader of the Intelligent Design movement, writes,
"The philosophy that fueled German militarism and Hitlerism is taught
as fact in every American public school, with no disagreement
allowed."
So what is not factual about heritable genetic change in reproducing
populations over time? What is philosophical about heritable genetic
change in reproducing populations over time?? And why should anyone
listen to a lawyer on philosophy, science or religion?
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| User: "Elmer" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
21 Mar 2006 09:05:08 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
(snip)
Research Fellow at the Discovery
Institute, should close the debate with a well-researched, scholarly
book, From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism
in Germany (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004). He shows how Darwinism made
abortion and racial extermination keys to progress rather than
reversions to barbarism,...
1 Sam 15:3.
Maybe someday someone will write a book on the ethics of gravity and
it's influence on Hitler.
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| User: "sanitys IittIe helper" |
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| Title: Re: Darwinism Made Abortion And Genocide Keys To Progress |
13 Mar 2006 10:53:20 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/10552
Roots of genocide
Interview: Richard Weikart on how Hitler was Darwin's ideological
grandson
Marvin Olasky
Phillip Johnson, leader of the Intelligent Design movement, writes,
"The philosophy that fueled German militarism and Hitlerism is taught
as fact in every American public school, with no disagreement
allowed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Atheist for life.
Religion is a social contract between those who would rule us and those
who won't deal with their own *****.
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| User: "Thurisaz the Einherjer" |
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14 Mar 2006 01:02:09 AM |
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The usual *****.
But just for fun, so hitler was "a darwinist", eh?
Now guess in what the millions of Germans who carried out his orders
believed.
You lose.
--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."
Why I am not a christian: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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