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15 Sep 2005 06:58:29 AM |
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'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 09:13:19 AM |
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"CathParks" <kdfgsfsdgfdddghatt@offdsdfgicesdg.com> wrote in message
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: http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
What part(s) did you find funny? I'm not willing to wade through
their nasty thoughts, just to have a chuckle.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
16 Sep 2005 07:38:30 AM |
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CathParks wrote in alt.atheism
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
"THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION has been around for 150 years, and has
had a great influence on the way people look at the world. It proposes
the lie that they came into this world as the result of chance and
that they are a "species of animal."
We can share blood with chimps, but we're not animals like they are,
no siree Bob! <cough>
"Furthermore, it teaches them that the only law in life is a selfish
struggle for survival and to stay alive. The effects of this idea can
be clearly seen in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries: people's
increasing selfishness, the moral degeneration in society, the rapid
spread of self-interest, ruthlessness, and violence, the development
of totalitarian and bloody ideologies such as fascism and communism,
social and individual crises as people grow distant from the morality
of religion,"
What a load of horse *****!
All those things have been present for thousands of years and have
nothing to do with Darwin.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Noone Inparticular" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 11:09:31 AM |
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CathParks wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
I liked "The True Story of Industrial Mechanism"
sheesh
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| User: "Michael Altarriba" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 09:13:33 AM |
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CathParks wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
Wow... that's just sad.
This person must be really, really afraid of the idea of a world
without an Ultimate Alpha Male / Father Figure / Creator. It's the
primate instinct towards social hierarchy run amok, I tell you...
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 11:09:31 AM |
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CathParks wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
Sorry, I'm having trouble picking out the particular bits of
unintentional humor you had in mind from all the masses of unintentional
humor on the site. Could you be more specific?
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| User: "Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
16 Sep 2005 03:30:03 PM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh "CathParks"
<kdfgsfsdgfdddghatt@offdsdfgicesdg.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
Materialist philosophy lies at the basis of the theory of evolution.
Materialism rests on the supposition that everything that exists is
matter. According to this philosophy, matter has existed since
eternity, will continue to exist forever, and there is nothing but
matter. In order to provide support for their claim, materialists use
a logic called "reductionism." This is the idea that things which are
not observable can also be explained by material causes.
God-botherers never tire of telling the most dreadful lies. Refuting
them line by line is futile.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 07:12:12 AM |
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I had to stop reading before I retched. Pretty web page, though.
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| User: "Josh M." |
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15 Sep 2005 10:54:54 AM |
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<zawadzki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I had to stop reading before I retched. Pretty web page, though.
Yeah, it's a shame that such good design was wasted on jackassery.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 12:02:27 PM |
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On 15 Sep 2005 05:12:12 -0700, in talk.origins , "zawadzki@yahoo.com"
<zawadzki@yahoo.com> in
<1126786332.506408.40190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
I had to stop reading before I retched. Pretty web page, though.
Funny, I retched from looking at the page before I had a chance to
read it.
--
Matt Silberstein
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 07:12:14 AM |
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I had to stop reading before I retched. Pretty web page, though.
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
19 Sep 2005 07:48:16 PM |
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In article <FldWe.3269$6p.1865@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"CathParks" <kdfgsfsdgfdddghatt@offdsdfgicesdg.com> wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
*
Harun "Haha" Yahya is at it again.
earle
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| User: "Alan Morgan" |
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15 Sep 2005 12:29:03 PM |
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In article <FldWe.3269$6p.1865@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
CathParks <kdfgsfsdgfdddghatt@offdsdfgicesdg.com> wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
Oy. Doesn't anyone have any new arguments?
OTOH, this does provide a mention of the infamous "500 doctoral thesis
were written about Piltdown Man" with a reference (not sure if we've
seen a firm reference before). Does anyone have Malcolm Muggeridge's
"The End of Christendom" around?
Alan
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Defendit numerus
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| User: "Agki" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 10:57:44 AM |
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It's crap. The section on proteins is nothing but a rehash of the same
old probability statements about "spontaneous" formation of particular
proteins. It continues the ancient and always wrong assertion that
evolution is random in every step.
It is easily ignored as containing any information pertinent to
evolution. There's nothing new in it and what is in it is wrong. It's
only value is negative and political since it presents the facade of
science by using a lot of words scientists use. Unfortunately, those
words are presented in the wrong order.
Agki
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| User: "Craig T" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 06:15:34 PM |
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It's not 100% crap. Did you see
"Intelligent Design Is Another of Satan's Distractions"
on one of the links? That only leaves 99.9% crap at the site.
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| User: "Ray Martinez" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 08:42:31 PM |
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My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Ray Martinez
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| User: "boikat" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
16 Sep 2005 02:36:39 AM |
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"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
You do know what the word "posthumously" means, right? If so, my
condolances, in advance.
Boikat
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 08:54:10 PM |
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"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
With undoubtedly the same effect, ie, no actual refutation.
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
Sure you will Ray.....
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Uh huh. So, what scientific journal do you propose to submit this
"refutation" to?
DJT
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| User: "Ray Martinez" |
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15 Sep 2005 09:16:02 PM |
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Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126834951.745333.56950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
With undoubtedly the same effect, ie, no actual refutation.
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
Sure you will Ray.....
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Uh huh. So, what scientific journal do you propose to submit this
"refutation" to?
DJT
If it truly falsifies ToE then no Darwinist would admit - obviously.
The fact that no Darwinist will embrace; WILL confirm the thesis and
falsification: macroevolution beliefs is a penalty from God for denying
Him Creator credit. The fact that no evidence exists for the concept
corroborates the penalty. The insistence that evidence does exist
corroborates the penalty as it (the penalty) becomes the only
explanation as to why so many people would believe in non-existent
evidence.
The journals you are referring to do not publish anything that
threatens starting assumptions or Creationist papers.
My article will appear where I said it would: on a creationist web
site.
(another month or so it will be done)
Ray Martinez
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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| Title: Re: 'Darwinism refuted'. Some (unintentional) humour here...! |
15 Sep 2005 09:38:38 PM |
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"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126836962.247488.199740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126834951.745333.56950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
With undoubtedly the same effect, ie, no actual refutation.
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
Sure you will Ray.....
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Uh huh. So, what scientific journal do you propose to submit this
"refutation" to?
DJT
If it truly falsifies ToE then no Darwinist would admit - obviously.
You won't know until you try. Shall we take that as an admission your
"refutation" isn't scientific?
The fact that no Darwinist will embrace; WILL confirm the thesis and
falsification: macroevolution beliefs is a penalty from God for denying
Him Creator credit.
That depends on if your "thesis" is based on logic and evidence. If it's
based on your usual mismash of misinterpetation of the Bible, and personal
hatred, then it's not likely anyone, "Darwinist" or otherwise will accept
it. Also, as you are quite well aware, there is no penalty from God for
using one's intellect. You have make a mistaken interpetation of the
Bible, and continue to mistakenly spread that assertion.
The fact that no evidence exists for the concept
corroborates the penalty.
There is a great deal of evidence for macroevolution, as you are quite well
aware. That you choose to ignore the evidence doesn't make it go away.
The insistence that evidence does exist
corroborates the penalty as it (the penalty) becomes the only
explanation as to why so many people would believe in non-existent
evidence.
The amount of circluar reasoning in the previous statement is wonderous to
behold. The fact remains the evidence of macroevolution does exist. No
amount of denial, hand waiving, or outright falsehoods will make that
evidence go away.
The journals you are referring to do not publish anything that
threatens starting assumptions or Creationist papers.
Confirmed then, that you haven't bothered to submit your "refutation" to
real scientists. Don't expect that Nobel anytime soon.
My article will appear where I said it would: on a creationist web
site.
Where it will not face any critical analysis, and where the faulty logic,
lack of evidence, and basic misunderstandings of science will pass without
comment. It will be placed where genuine science can't touch it, and where
only the gullible and the fantical will see it. It will remain unknown,
and unseen by anyone who knows anything about science, or how science works.
That's probably the best place for such an "article". Again, don't start
clearing a space on your mantlepiece for that Nobel.
(another month or so it will be done)
That's what you said about two months ago....
Anyway, where's the JPL paper?
DJT
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| User: "Robert Weldon" |
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16 Sep 2005 01:10:30 PM |
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"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126836962.247488.199740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126834951.745333.56950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
With undoubtedly the same effect, ie, no actual refutation.
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
Sure you will Ray.....
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Uh huh. So, what scientific journal do you propose to submit this
"refutation" to?
DJT
If it truly falsifies ToE then no Darwinist would admit - obviously.
The fact that no Darwinist will embrace; WILL confirm the thesis and
falsification: macroevolution beliefs is a penalty from God for denying
Him Creator credit. The fact that no evidence exists for the concept
corroborates the penalty. The insistence that evidence does exist
corroborates the penalty as it (the penalty) becomes the only
explanation as to why so many people would believe in non-existent
evidence.
If it truly falsified the TOE, it would be accepted by scientists, because
that is what scientists do, constantly adjust and refine their theories to
accomodate the evidence. And you would be famous and probably would get a
Nobel. Somehow I don't think it will be accepted by scientists, and
probably not by mainstream christians either, if your past posting history
is any evidence. However, I will reserve judgement until I read it, at a
minimum, it should be interesting reading.
If you honestly thought it had any scientific merit, you would submit it to
the appropriate journal for review and publication. The fact that you are
going to post in on a creationist website leads me to suspect that you are
not that honest.
The journals you are referring to do not publish anything that
threatens starting assumptions or Creationist papers.
My article will appear where I said it would: on a creationist web
site.
(another month or so it will be done)
Ray Martinez
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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16 Sep 2005 03:04:11 PM |
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On 15 Sep 2005 19:16:02 -0700, in talk.origins , "Ray Martinez"
<pyramidial@yahoo.com> in
<1126836962.247488.199740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126834951.745333.56950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
With undoubtedly the same effect, ie, no actual refutation.
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
Sure you will Ray.....
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Uh huh. So, what scientific journal do you propose to submit this
"refutation" to?
DJT
If it truly falsifies ToE then no Darwinist would admit - obviously.
The fact that no Darwinist will embrace; WILL confirm the thesis and
falsification:
Isn't paranoia wonderful? So complete, so self-fulfilling and
self-correcting.
macroevolution beliefs is a penalty from God for denying
Him Creator credit. The fact that no evidence exists for the concept
corroborates the penalty. The insistence that evidence does exist
corroborates the penalty as it (the penalty) becomes the only
explanation as to why so many people would believe in non-existent
evidence.
The journals you are referring to do not publish anything that
threatens starting assumptions or Creationist papers.
My article will appear where I said it would: on a creationist web
site.
(another month or so it will be done)
Here is how to make your case even strong. Submit the paper to some
journals. They will turn you down. They won't give the true reasons,
of course, but they will give you something. Then post their response
along with the paper to show how cowardly they are.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
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| User: "Dick C" |
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16 Sep 2005 08:24:32 PM |
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Ray Martinez wrote in talk.origins
If it truly falsifies ToE then no Darwinist would admit - obviously.
What do you mean obviously? We are not you, we are not dishonest,
delusional diehard fundies.
The fact that no Darwinist will embrace; WILL confirm the thesis and
falsification: macroevolution beliefs is a penalty from God for denying
Him Creator credit.
Let's see now, the fact that honest intelligent people refuse to
accept the pointless and directionless ramblings of a self deluded
madman is proof positive that what the madman?
The fact that no evidence exists for the concept
corroborates the penalty. The insistence that evidence does exist
corroborates the penalty as it (the penalty) becomes the only
explanation as to why so many people would believe in non-existent
evidence.
The journals you are referring to do not publish anything that
threatens starting assumptions or Creationist papers.
My article will appear where I said it would: on a creationist web
site.
(another month or so it will be done)
Ray Martinez
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***** #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:
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| User: "Richard Clayton" |
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16 Sep 2005 11:22:45 PM |
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Ray Martinez wrote:
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
Ray, I say this in all seriousness, and without intent to mock you:
Your delusions of self-importance are reaching unhealthy levels. Please
seek competent psychological counseling.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Richard Clayton
"During wars laws are silent." -- Cicero
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 Sep 2005 02:04:26 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:22:45 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote:
<PIGGYBACKING>
Ray Martinez wrote:
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
As far as I'm aware, they don't yet award a Nobel for profound
stupidity.
Ray, I say this in all seriousness, and without intent to mock you:
Your delusions of self-importance are reaching unhealthy levels. Please
seek competent psychological counseling.
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2005 03:46:53 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:22:45 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote:
<PIGGYBACKING>
Ray Martinez wrote:
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
As far as I'm aware, they don't yet award a Nobel for profound
stupidity.
Also, they won't give it to you postumously unless you are actually
dead.
Ray, I say this in all seriousness, and without intent to mock you:
Your delusions of self-importance are reaching unhealthy levels. Please
seek competent psychological counseling.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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22 Sep 2005 07:59:07 PM |
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wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:22:45 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote:
<PIGGYBACKING>
Ray Martinez wrote:
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
As far as I'm aware, they don't yet award a Nobel for profound
stupidity.
Also, they won't give it to you postumously unless you are actually
dead.
And in fact they don't award it posthumously even if they award it to your
coworkers for the same achievement (vide Rosalind Franklin).
Ray, I say this in all seriousness, and without intent to mock you:
Your delusions of self-importance are reaching unhealthy levels. Please
seek competent psychological counseling.
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
"Darwin's theory has no more to do with philosophy than any other
hypothesis in natural science." Tractatus 4.1122
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| User: "John Baker" |
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22 Sep 2005 06:14:22 PM |
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On 22 Sep 2005 13:46:53 -0700, wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:22:45 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote:
<PIGGYBACKING>
Ray Martinez wrote:
My up-coming article will have the exact same title: "Darwinism
Refuted"
Not to imply ToE was not already in a state of falsification, but after
you read it I will own the above phrase.
I will also posthumously accept the Nobel in behalf of Dr. Scott.
As far as I'm aware, they don't yet award a Nobel for profound
stupidity.
Also, they won't give it to you postumously unless you are actually
dead.
Ray's brain dead. Does that count? <G>
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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15 Sep 2005 08:28:51 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:58:29 GMT, "CathParks"
<kdfgsfsdgfdddghatt@offdsdfgicesdg.com> wrote:
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
C.
It struck me that he answered some of the most complex questions
you could ask in under three hundred words and without reference to
any peer reviewed material.
It's amazing how the most intelligent people of the world have to
continually ward off the dumbest.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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