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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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21 Feb 2004 06:03:18 PM |
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DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
21 Feb 2004 07:31:01 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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Subject: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM
....is that he's dead.
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Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"You should realize Usenet is a strange reality where you see people
beating up a patch of grass where nine years ago there used to be a
horse. " 01 July 2003, talk.origins
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
21 Feb 2004 06:27:55 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
Basic science again I'm afraid.
Such samples have been found.
Alun Harford
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
22 Feb 2004 02:32:24 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<blSZb.398$j04.54001@news.uswest.net>...
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
The first section you quote above, comes from the chapter on problems
with the theory of evolution, which shows that Darwin was incomparably
more honest than you are.
The first section of your quote is in the following:
"On the Absence or Rarity of Transitional Varieties.- As natural
selection acts solely by the preservation of profitable modifications,
each new form will tend in a fully-stocked country to take the place
of, and finally to exterminate, its own less improved parent-form and
other less favoured forms with which it comes into competition. Thus
extinction and natural selection go hand in hand. Hence, if we look at
each species as descended from some unknown form, both the parent and
all the transitional varieties will generally have been exterminated
by the very process of the formation and perfection of the new form."
"But, as by this theory innumerable transitional forms must have
existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? It will be more convenient to discuss this
question in the chapter on the Imperfection of the Geological Record;
and I will here only state that I believe the answer mainly lies in
the record being incomparably less perfect than is generally supposed.
The crust of the earth is a vast museum; but the natural connections
have been imperfectly made, and only at long intervals of time."
The second part of the quote is from the final chapter:
"On this doctrine of the extermination of an infinitude of connecting
links, between the living and extinct inhabitants of the world, and at
each successive period between the extinct and still older species,
why is not every geological formation charged with such links? Why
does not every collection of fossil remains afford plain evidence of
the gradation and mutation of the forms of life? Although geological
research has undoubtedly revealed the former existence of many links,
bringing numerous forms of life much closer together, it does not
yield the infinitely many fine gradations between past and present
species required on the theory; and this is the most obvious of the
many objections which may be urged against it. Why, again, do whole
groups of allied species appear, though this appearance is often
false, to have come in suddenly on the successive geological stages?
Although we now know that organic beings appeared on this globe, at a
period incalculably remote, long before the lowest bed of the Cambrian
system was deposited, why do we not find beneath this system great
piles of strata stored with the remains of the progenitors of the
Cambrian fossils? For on the theory, such strata must somewhere have
been deposited at these ancient and utterly unknown epochs of the
world's history."
"I can answer these questions and objections only on the supposition
that the geological record is far more imperfect than most geologists
believe. The number of specimens in all our museums is absolutely as
nothing compared with the countless generations of countless species
which have certainly existed. The parent-form of any two or more
species would not be in all its characters directly intermediate
between its modified offspring, any more than the rock-pigeon is
directly intermediate in crop and tail between its descendants, the
pouter and fantail pigeons. We should not be able to recognise a
species as the parent of another and modified species, if we were to
examine the two ever so closely, unless we possessed most of the
intermediate links; and owing to the imperfection of the geological
record, we have no just right to expect to find so many links."
What is clear from the larger and more representative excerpts is that
Darwin did in fact have answers for these problems.
The painful truth is that by either by omission or misdirection,
Christians lie.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "SReeseMe" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
21 Feb 2004 09:13:20 PM |
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ubject: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM
From: "The Church of The Painful Truth"
Date: 02/21/2004 7:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <blSZb.398$j04.54001@news.uswest.net>
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
Quote mining, its not just a job, its an adventure.
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
24 Feb 2004 05:29:55 AM |
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Mr Painful,
Since that paragraph was composed by Darwin, the aformentioned
links have been found. Look at the opening pages of the book and
you'll find that it was "first published" many years ago.
His biggest problem was his beard, in which many croutons were
lost.
Iain
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<blSZb.398$j04.54001@news.uswest.net>...
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
23 Feb 2004 06:43:35 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:03:18 +0000, The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM,
....is that his theory offends simpleton theists.
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Alex" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
22 Feb 2004 12:06:17 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:03:18 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
This is a good example of something idiots like you never learn:
Science progresses! Who would have thought?
Darwin's book is old news and biologists don't generally quote it to
support their papers. There have been thousands of advances since
Darwin's time and despite his book being a huge breakthrough, it is no
longer that relevant except as part of a history lesson.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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21 Feb 2004 08:21:22 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:03:18 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
Yipeee, I want to play take that quote out of context game too!
"... There is no god..."
-The Bible
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -546 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM |
21 Feb 2004 06:19:43 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:03:18 +1100, The Church of The Painful Truth
wrote
(in message <blSZb.398$j04.54001@news.uswest.net>):
DARWIN'S BIGGEST PROBLEM, "....innumerable transitional forms must have
existed but why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the
crust of the earth? ....why is not every geological formation and every
stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal
any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest
objection which can be urged against my theory". ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES.
Correct, Darwin's biggest problem has been dishonest scumbags
quoting him out of context. Nice example, btw.
Have Fun
Martin
[I thought you said you were going to *****, lying troll?]
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aa #1792
Almost always SMASHed
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