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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Date: 13 Aug 2007 08:06:55 PM
Object: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead.
neighbor
wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.

No new species have emerged as predicted by this theory.

A theory requires support by successful predictions to keep it viable.


One usual definition of a species is a group of living things which
can reproduce themselves and which will not cross breed with related
species and produce young which will be able to reproduce. ie a
species is reproductively isolated from other species. Of course
there are other less restrictive definitions also. Using this
restrictive definition Dr Sheele observed a new species originate
clear back about 1960. Way before gene splicing and all the modern
stuff.

So we have a new species and a successful prediction by Darwin.

Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.
Instead what has been observed is degeneration (loss of biodiversity
and loss of complexity) instead of Darwin's evolution:
http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com
Bottomline:
Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still very much dead.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
.

User: "Velvet Elvis"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 15 Aug 2007 08:21:17 PM
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:04:46 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary
Kittrell) wrote:

In article <aps6c3drvsunvv64brr8lpt1420pd6q78f@4ax.com> Velvet Elvis <nowhere@noplace.org> writes:

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:09:46 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


The book may go but the records nthe crust of the earth will remain.


GOD has created and is creating all things seen and unseen, including
all things in the crust of the earth.

Almost all religions have caveats against falsehood.


It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

It also remains my choice to refrain from being religious.

Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with the risen LORD
Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Ever hear of DNA?


Yes.

GOD has given me the experience of discovering and working with DNA
sequences that are identical in both base composition and function in
all species of organisms that are living here on this planet.

This experience has proven to me that Darwin's Theory of Evolution
remains stillborn.

Suggested additional reading:

http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com/

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease


Am I the only one who imagines the adults from the peanuts cartoons
talking whenever the Chungbot says anything?


It seems your sockpuppet is suffering from psychoses, satan.

Hearing incomprehensible voices while reading a usenet post would be
diagnostic tell.



In Jesus' name, I rebuke you, satan.


<snip>
Your name is revered by irony meter manufacturers the world over.


Think certain kickbacks may be inovolved?

I understand he's in negotiations for an Andrew Chung Autograph model.
It has 666 integrated circuits.
----------------------------------
If you want a country run by religion, move to Iran
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 15 Aug 2007 09:09:16 PM
In article <le97c3tli2t30g9773h8vigngud5mdh5k8@4ax.com> Velvet Elvis <nowhere@noplace.org> writes:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:04:46 +0000 (UTC),

(Cary
Kittrell) wrote:

In article <aps6c3drvsunvv64brr8lpt1420pd6q78f@4ax.com> Velvet Elvis <nowhere@noplace.org> writes:

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:09:46 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


The book may go but the records nthe crust of the earth will remain.


GOD has created and is creating all things seen and unseen, including
all things in the crust of the earth.

Almost all religions have caveats against falsehood.


It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

It also remains my choice to refrain from being religious.

Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with the risen LORD
Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Ever hear of DNA?


Yes.

GOD has given me the experience of discovering and working with DNA
sequences that are identical in both base composition and function in
all species of organisms that are living here on this planet.

This experience has proven to me that Darwin's Theory of Evolution
remains stillborn.

Suggested additional reading:

http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com/

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease


Am I the only one who imagines the adults from the peanuts cartoons
talking whenever the Chungbot says anything?


It seems your sockpuppet is suffering from psychoses, satan.

Hearing incomprehensible voices while reading a usenet post would be
diagnostic tell.



In Jesus' name, I rebuke you, satan.


<snip>
Your name is revered by irony meter manufacturers the world over.


Think certain kickbacks may be inovolved?


I understand he's in negotiations for an Andrew Chung Autograph model.
It has 666 integrated circuits.

And the next generation of Fuzzy Logic, sometimes called "None" for short.
-- cary
.


User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 13 Aug 2007 11:12:54 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.

Wrong. There is nothing in evolutionary theory that even remotely posits a
trend to greater complexity. Even if there was, how would you measure it?

Instead what has been observed is degeneration (loss of biodiversity

Which has ***** all to do with evolutioanry theory and everything to do with
human impact on the environment.

and loss of complexity

Go ahead. Make my day. Give me a cite. Tell me what the metric is.

) instead of Darwin's evolution:

http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com

Bottomline:

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still very much dead.

Bottom line: Chung is an idiot and doesn't no ***** about his own field of
biology. sad.
.

User: "Budikka666"

Title: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 17 Sep 2007 09:11:36 PM
Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.
PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.
Budikka
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 12:11:12 AM
In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.

Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.

Budikka

--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 01:13:20 AM
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.

Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 11:57:32 PM
In article <j1rue3hpnknsbqeg1bnlked8qpk5kqlgvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.

Their arguments are nothing more than abysmal ignorance backed up by
rank superstition.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 19 Sep 2007 01:49:53 AM
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:57:32 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <j1rue3hpnknsbqeg1bnlked8qpk5kqlgvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.


Their arguments are nothing more than abysmal ignorance backed up by
rank superstition.

Not file superstition?
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 19 Sep 2007 10:18:22 PM
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hjh1f31o214lha8vspdmhf6jtom2nk6jns@4ax.com...

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:57:32 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <j1rue3hpnknsbqeg1bnlked8qpk5kqlgvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine
rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.


Their arguments are nothing more than abysmal ignorance backed up by
rank superstition.


Not file superstition?

You misspelt "vile".
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 19 Sep 2007 11:35:05 PM
In article <2ElIi.45485$6u5.1135@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hjh1f31o214lha8vspdmhf6jtom2nk6jns@4ax.com...

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:57:32 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <j1rue3hpnknsbqeg1bnlked8qpk5kqlgvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine
rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.


Their arguments are nothing more than abysmal ignorance backed up by
rank superstition.


Not file superstition?


You misspelt "vile".

Rank and file and vile. And it's a pile.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 20 Sep 2007 12:00:14 AM
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:18:22 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:


"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hjh1f31o214lha8vspdmhf6jtom2nk6jns@4ax.com...

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:57:32 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <j1rue3hpnknsbqeg1bnlked8qpk5kqlgvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine
rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.


Their arguments are nothing more than abysmal ignorance backed up by
rank superstition.


Not file superstition?


You misspelt "vile".

Rank & vile.
Yep, that's religion alright!
.




User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 20 Sep 2007 12:39:02 AM
Michael Gray wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour......

.....when forced into the brains of young children I heartily agree
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 07 Oct 2007 12:35:16 PM
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:43:20 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:11:12 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <1190081496.598408.29400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.

Fits right in with institutional christian dishonesty.
.

User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 05:12:40 AM
Until evolutionary processes create many new species to reverse the
ongoing waning of bio-diversity, there will be no reason to resurrect
the stillborn corpse of Darwinism.
Darwin's book was titled "Origin of the Species" and not "Origin of
the (Genetic) Information" afterall.
Truth is simple...
.... but beyond the grasp of the untruthful like either satan or his
sockpuppets.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
convicted neighbor Michael Gray wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

satam via a sockpuppet hissed:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.

.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 20 Sep 2007 12:43:01 AM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

Until evolutionary processes create many new species to reverse the
ongoing waning of bio-diversity, there will be no reason to resurrect
the stillborn corpse of Darwinism.

Darwin's book was titled "Origin of the Species" and not "Origin of
the (Genetic) Information" afterall.

Truth is simple...

... but beyond the grasp of the untruthful like either satan or his
sockpuppets.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

The evolutionary process for every living thing relies largely on
'Gratification'. Without it we cannot maintain the species.
The fact you feel gratified by propagating imaginary gods is a prime example.
Tpp bad we have to put up with silly superstitious nonsense for the sake of
homo sapien



http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

convicted neighbor Michael Gray wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

satam via a sockpuppet hissed:

Notwithstanding The Chump's and Pastor Wiener's patently asinine rants
against 150 years of solid science built up by people of all faiths
and nationalities, the science of evolution continues to make strides
forwards whilst the creationists and ID proponents whine on the
sidelines, unable to even pretend they can *create* any science or
even so much as *design* a theory.

PvM at
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/09/how_does_evolut.html
discusses how evolutionary processes create information in the genome
- something creationists and ID-iots consistently LIE about. There's
a terrific exchange of comments immediately below the article which
highlight both the intellectual poverty of the so-called intelligent
design movement and the dedication of evolutionists.


Yep. Those ID people love their strawmen. I think that part of the
problem is that they misunderstand how scientists use the term and how
'information' is used in everyday speech.


Wilfully, deliberately and puposefully misunderstand to shore up their
own infantile delusions.
It is criminal behaviour.

.

User: "Budikka666"

Title: Andrew Chump Takes it in the *****-everation 18 Sep 2007 05:03:15 PM
On Sep 18, 5:12 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

Until evolutionary processes create many new species

Here's 666 examples of macroevolution, speciation, etc.:
Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example 5: http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example 6: http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example 7: http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example 8: http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples 9-539: http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540: http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541: http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542: http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543: http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544: http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545: http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546: http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547: http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548: http://tinyurl.com/88kch (shared with 547 thread)
Example 549: http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550: http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551: http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577: http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578: http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579: http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580: http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581: http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582: http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583: http://tinyurl.com/76zao (misnumbered as 582)
Example 584: http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585: http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590: http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591: http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592: http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593: http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594: http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595: http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596: http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597: http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
Example 598: http://tinyurl.com/9s6cq
Example 599: http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600: http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608: http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615: http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635: http://tinyurl.com/ely5u
Examples 636-666: http://tinyurl.com/f9ub6
You lose, Chump.
Budikka
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User: "Måck©®"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 06:04:21 AM
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
please keep in mind when starting knew posts and or responding to the
chung nutter that all of the medical support groups know that chung is
an unmedicated schizphrenic and in need of proffessional help hat
cannot be given via the net.
all the groups also recognize that all chung posts originate from the
cardiology newsgroup that he has quite effectively destroyed.
please do not post chung threads, flames or trollings of any kind to
any medical support newsgroup opther than sci.med.cardiology as they
are strictly off topic and disruptive to the purpose of the groups.
everyone will thank you all for your understanding.
please, if you are truly christian, and even if you are not religious
in any way to include atheists, encourage chung to go back to his
doctor and get back on his meds. It is the decent thing to do.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 05:31:24 PM
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:04:21 -0400, Mεck©®
<trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:


please keep in mind when starting knew posts and or responding to the
chung nutter that all of the medical support groups know that chung is
an unmedicated schizphrenic and in need of proffessional help hat
cannot be given via the net.

all the groups also recognize that all chung posts originate from the
cardiology newsgroup that he has quite effectively destroyed.

please do not post chung threads, flames or trollings of any kind to
any medical support newsgroup opther than sci.med.cardiology as they
are strictly off topic and disruptive to the purpose of the groups.

everyone will thank you all for your understanding.

please, if you are truly christian, and even if you are not religious
in any way to include atheists, encourage chung to go back to his
doctor and get back on his meds. It is the decent thing to do.

I have done this in the dim dark past, but to no avail.
Do you know if he has been struck off yet?
If not, then cardiologists reading the newsgroup should do their
damndest to make that blessed event occur.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 07 Oct 2007 12:37:03 PM
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:04:21 -0400, Måck©®
<trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:


please keep in mind when starting knew posts and or responding to the
chung nutter that all of the medical support groups know that chung is
an unmedicated schizphrenic and in need of proffessional help hat
cannot be given via the net.

all the groups also recognize that all chung posts originate from the
cardiology newsgroup that he has quite effectively destroyed.

please do not post chung threads, flames or trollings of any kind to
any medical support newsgroup opther than sci.med.cardiology as they
are strictly off topic and disruptive to the purpose of the groups.

everyone will thank you all for your understanding.

please, if you are truly christian, and even if you are not religious
in any way to include atheists, encourage chung to go back to his
doctor and get back on his meds. It is the decent thing to do.

1 Thess 5:15-17 applies.
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Evolutionary Processes Create Information 18 Sep 2007 10:37:03 AM
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:04:21 -0400, Måck©®
<trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
please keep in mind when starting knew posts and or responding to the
chung nutter that all of the medical support groups know that chung is
an unmedicated schizphrenic and in need of proffessional help hat
cannot be given via the net.

Jabriol can help Chunks - he's already caused one person to commit
suicide.

please, if you are truly christian, and even if you are not religious
in any way to include atheists, encourage chung to go back to his
doctor and get back on his meds. It is the decent thing to do.

It's not the way evolution works, though.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 14 Aug 2007 04:19:44 AM
On 14 ao=FBt, 03:06, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

neighbor

wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


No new species have emerged as predicted by this theory.


A theory requires support by successful predictions to keep it viable.


One usual definition of a species is a group of living things which
can reproduce themselves and which will not cross breed with related
species and produce young which will be able to reproduce. ie a
species is reproductively isolated from other species. Of course
there are other less restrictive definitions also. Using this
restrictive definition Dr Sheele observed a new species originate
clear back about 1960. Way before gene splicing and all the modern
stuff.


So we have a new species and a successful prediction by Darwin.


Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.

Instead what has been observed is degeneration (loss of biodiversity
and loss of complexity) instead of Darwin's evolution:

http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com

Bottomline:

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still very much dead.

No. Your brain activity is still very much dead.
You seem incapable of one rational thought and your "intellectual
activity" consists in little more than seriously disturbed rant about
your god. Even the Pope isn't *that* fanatic...
Try to show some intelligence and then, we'll discuss with you.
Until then, *****, moron and stop posting to alt.atheism.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 14 Aug 2007 04:41:36 AM
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:19:44 -0700,
wrote:

On 14 août, 03:06, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

neighbor

wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


No new species have emerged as predicted by this theory.


A theory requires support by successful predictions to keep it viable.


One usual definition of a species is a group of living things which
can reproduce themselves and which will not cross breed with related
species and produce young which will be able to reproduce. ie a
species is reproductively isolated from other species. Of course
there are other less restrictive definitions also. Using this
restrictive definition Dr Sheele observed a new species originate
clear back about 1960. Way before gene splicing and all the modern
stuff.


So we have a new species and a successful prediction by Darwin.


Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.

Instead what has been observed is degeneration (loss of biodiversity
and loss of complexity) instead of Darwin's evolution:

http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com

Bottomline:

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still very much dead.


No. Your brain activity is still very much dead.
You seem incapable of one rational thought and your "intellectual
activity" consists in little more than seriously disturbed rant about
your god. Even the Pope isn't *that* fanatic...
Try to show some intelligence and then, we'll discuss with you.
Until then, *****, moron and stop posting to alt.atheism.

Chung is seriously mentally ill, and deserves to be treated as such.
.


User: "magilla"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 15 Aug 2007 07:57:16 AM
On Aug 13, 9:06 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

neighbor

wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


No new species have emerged as predicted by this theory.


A theory requires support by successful predictions to keep it viable.


One usual definition of a species is a group of living things which
can reproduce themselves and which will not cross breed with related
species and produce young which will be able to reproduce. ie a
species is reproductively isolated from other species. Of course
there are other less restrictive definitions also. Using this
restrictive definition Dr Sheele observed a new species originate
clear back about 1960. Way before gene splicing and all the modern
stuff.


So we have a new species and a successful prediction by Darwin.


Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.

No, he didn't. Darwin showed that evolution by means of natural
selection happens. He also proposed that all species have one, or at
most a few, common ancestors. We now think that drift is the most
important cause of speciation, but work is still continuing.


Instead what has been observed is degeneration (loss of biodiversity
and loss of complexity) instead of Darwin's evolution:

Are you seriously suggesting that the fossil record does not show an
increase in the complexity of organisms from a billion years ago to
now?
Do you believe in a young earth?
Do you believe in a global flood?
Chris


http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com

Bottomline:

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still very much dead.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still dead. 15 Aug 2007 10:31:40 AM
neighbor Chris Thompson (magilla) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

neighbor

wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:


Moreover, Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The
Origin of Species, is dead.


No new species have emerged as predicted by this theory.


A theory requires support by successful predictions to keep it viable.


One usual definition of a species is a group of living things which
can reproduce themselves and which will not cross breed with related
species and produce young which will be able to reproduce. ie a
species is reproductively isolated from other species. Of course
there are other less restrictive definitions also. Using this
restrictive definition Dr Sheele observed a new species originate
clear back about 1960. Way before gene splicing and all the modern
stuff.


So we have a new species and a successful prediction by Darwin.


Darwin's theory of evolution as posited in his book, The Origin of
Species, predicted new species of greater complexity.


No, he didn't.

It logically follows explaining the event of zero species to multiple
species as implied in the name of the theory "The Origin of Species"
that there is a prediction of new species with greater complexity in
the future.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly serve as an example of the "degeneration" that
shows Darwin's theory of evolution remains stillborn:
http://www.evolutionisdegeneration.com
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
.



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