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28 Nov 2004 08:00:01 AM |
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David Barton, RNC, Bush Campaign |
Honesty, ethics, accuracy, facts, truth take back seat winning as the
following shows:
But then, the radical right does own the Republican Party
Bush hire doesn’t believe in Church and State separation
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_4FvLv9r6akJ:bushvchoice.blogs.com/bvc/2004/10/bush_hire_doesn.html+David+Barton,+Bush+campaign&hl=en
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O17D212E9
Beliefnet reported recently that the RNC has been employing a “Texas-based
activist who believes the United States is a ‘Christian nation’ and the
separation of church and state is ‘a myth.’”
Yikes! (Though it does sound right up Bush’s alley…)
David Barton, who founded Wallbuilders, an organization “dedicated to the
restoration of the constitutional, moral, and religious foundation on which
America was built,” has been speaking at RNC sponsored events for
evangelical pastors across the country for about a year. At these events,
Barton discusses “America’s Christian heritage,” and tells the pastors that
they are allowed to endorse particular candidates from the pulpit. So far,
Barton has pulled in $12,000 as a political consultant for the RNC.
Outside of Barton’s scary argument that the separation of church and state
needs to go bye-bye, he also gets a little freaky with some education
hypotheses:
Barton has said that God influenced his sense of mission. In America: To
Pray Or Not To Pray? Barton writes: "In July 1987, God impressed me to do
two things. First, I was to search the library and find the date that
prayer had been prohibited in public schools. Second, I was to obtain a
record of national SAT scores (the academic test given to prospective
college-bound high school students) spanning several decades. I didn't know
why, but I somehow knew that these two pieces of information would be very
important."
As a result, Barton writes that he learned America has declined because of
the 1962 and '63 Supreme Court rulings banning school-sponsored prayer. He
believes God is angry at the country and has retaliated.
Huh. And to think all this time I thought that bad SAT scores were due to
lack of education and resources. Turns out, all I had to do was pray for a
high score. Silly me.
This just goes to show you how far the Bush campaign will go, and how they
really feel about the separation of church and state. And if you need a
friendly reminder of how Bush puts faith above reality, make sure to check
out the NY Times Magazine article, Without a Doubt.
Without a Doubt
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1101790800&en=919fce78b56078c3&ei=5070&oref=login
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H28D122E9
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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| Title: SAT Scores and Sandia Report (was Re: David Barton, RNC, Bush Campaign) |
28 Nov 2004 03:48:23 PM |
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wrote:
Honesty, ethics, accuracy, facts, truth take back seat winning as the
following shows:
But then, the radical right does own the Republican Party
Bush hire doesn't believe in Church and State separation
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_4FvLv9r6akJ:bushvchoice.blogs.com/bvc/2004/10/bush_hire_doesn.html+David+Barton,+Bush+campaign&hl=en
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O17D212E9
Beliefnet reported recently that the RNC has been employing a "Texas-based
activist who believes the United States is a 'Christian nation' and the
separation of church and state is 'a myth.'"
Yikes! (Though it does sound right up Bush's alley...)
David Barton, who founded Wallbuilders, an organization "dedicated to the
restoration of the constitutional, moral, and religious foundation on which
America was built," has been speaking at RNC sponsored events for
evangelical pastors across the country for about a year. At these events,
Barton discusses "America's Christian heritage," and tells the pastors that
they are allowed to endorse particular candidates from the pulpit. So far,
Barton has pulled in $12,000 as a political consultant for the RNC.
Outside of Barton's scary argument that the separation of church and state
needs to go bye-bye, he also gets a little freaky with some education
hypotheses:
Barton has said that God influenced his sense of mission. In America: To
Pray Or Not To Pray? Barton writes: "In July 1987, God impressed me to do
two things. First, I was to search the library and find the date that
prayer had been prohibited in public schools. Second, I was to obtain a
record of national SAT scores (the academic test given to prospective
college-bound high school students) spanning several decades. I didn't know
why, but I somehow knew that these two pieces of information would be very
important."
As a result, Barton writes that he learned America has declined because of
the 1962 and '63 Supreme Court rulings banning school-sponsored prayer. He
believes God is angry at the country and has retaliated.
Huh. And to think all this time I thought that bad SAT scores were due to
lack of education and resources. Turns out, all I had to do was pray for a
high score. Silly me.
http://www.nmmle.org/2000%20Journal/Article%209.html
Lower average SAT scores are a good thing. Lower *average* SAT scores
are an indication that we are educating a greater fraction of our
population.
If there's a myth here, it's the myth that SAT scores indicate that our
educational system is suffering.
The reason is very simple: When only the educational elite went to
college, SAT scores were high. As lower scoring students take the SAT in
order to apply for college, the *average* score goes down.
The United States leads the world in terms of college entry and
completion. Americans complete Bachelor's degrees at a higher rate than
any other country in the world.
We should also note that among every demographic category, SAT scores
have been going *up* since the 60's.
Glenn Arnold
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: SAT Scores and Sandia Report (was Re: David Barton, RNC, Bush Campaign) |
29 Nov 2004 06:41:55 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:48:23 +0000, Glenn Arnold wrote:
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The United States leads the world in terms of college entry and
completion. Americans complete Bachelor's degrees at a higher rate than
any other country in the world.
No relationship between the two issues. The number of students attending
university has no relationship to quality of educatoin.
We should also note that among every demographic category, SAT scores
have been going *up* since the 60's.
True but again, this has absolutely no relationship with quality of
education. It's well known that the focus of high school has been
redirected to SAT preparation.
The only accurate methodology of acessing quality of education is to
examine the performance of graduates.
-- Regards, Curly
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