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"Therion Ware" |
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18 Jan 2006 06:11:12 AM |
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Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
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| User: "Red Celt" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
21 Jan 2006 11:39:28 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Hi Therion. Long time no speak.
To answer your question, I had a wee look at both programs. I hadn't
recorded the ads before or after each program, so can't comment on
them. Each of the 2 programs had 3 advertising breaks. Broken down as
follows:-
The God Delusion - Broadcast date Jan 9th, 2006
Advert : Firstdirect.com
Advert : HM Revenue & Customs
Advert : Just For Men
Trailer : Tony Blair : Rock Star
Advert : Landrover
Advert : Energy Saving Trust
Trailer : Why We Went To War
Advert : Lexus IS
Advert : Privilege Insurance
Trailer : Animals
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The Virus Of Faith - Broadcast date Jan 16th, 2006
Advert : Mazda 6
Advert : primelocation.com
Trailer : Invasion
Advert : Vauxhall Vectra
Advert : Horlicks
Advert : Thomson
Trailer : My Name Is Earl
Advert : Saab 93 V6 Sportswagon
Advert : Axa
Trailer : Tony Blair : Rock Star
So, yes. Looks like most advertisers shied away from associating
themselves with the subject matter. Except car manufacturers don't
seem to mind atheists buying their products :)
During the screening of the 2nd episode, the ads lasted as little as 1
minute before a trailer was thrown in prior to the continuation of the
program.
Red Celt
aa#883
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 06:36:55 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 06:43:30 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
Well yes, but during the second programme there were only Channel 4
ads promoting C4 programmes, IIRC, and one for AXA Insurance at some
point, IIRC. That's quite unusual at prime time, in my experience.
On the other hand this may be my selective memory at work....!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 06:42:49 PM |
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In <aqdss1lfovrct34or1a4pjbusvlqufqs3r@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
And I'm that way.
(No, more to the left)
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Mark K. Bilbo
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http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Didi" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 08:57:14 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
Well yes, but during the second programme there were only Channel 4
ads promoting C4 programmes, IIRC, and one for AXA Insurance at some
point, IIRC. That's quite unusual at prime time, in my experience.
On the other hand this may be my selective memory at work....!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
I might have to agree with you there......... I was trying to read an
article while the ads were on, but the breaks didn't seem long enough.
Did you see "Dark Enlightenment" on More4 straight after......a whole
load of tripe that was!!!
Didi
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 09:42:21 AM |
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On 18 Jan 2006 06:57:14 -0800 in alt.atheism, Didi ("Didi"
<skullbabe@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
Well yes, but during the second programme there were only Channel 4
ads promoting C4 programmes, IIRC, and one for AXA Insurance at some
point, IIRC. That's quite unusual at prime time, in my experience.
On the other hand this may be my selective memory at work....!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
I might have to agree with you there......... I was trying to read an
article while the ads were on, but the breaks didn't seem long enough.
Did you see "Dark Enlightenment" on More4 straight after......a whole
load of tripe that was!!!
Alas not. What was it about?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "Ian Hamilton" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 09:52:26 AM |
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The programme argued that religion is an important part of a cohesive
society.
It did not argue that God exists - rather that attempts since the
enlightment to completly remove religion from society have had rather
unexpected and unpleasant results.
A counterpoint to the "Root of all Evil" argument.
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| User: "martin" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 12:14:04 PM |
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Ian Hamilton wrote:
The programme argued that religion is an important part of a cohesive
society.
It did not argue that God exists - rather that attempts since the
enlightment to completly remove religion from society have had rather
unexpected and unpleasant results.
A counterpoint to the "Root of all Evil" argument.
I thought it might give an intellectual counterpoint to Dawkins, it was
as if a rightwing American had taken over a British TV show. I've never
heard a british program use the word 'liberal' consistantly (and way too
often) as a swear word before.
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| User: "Didi" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 09:07:13 AM |
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Didi wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
Well yes, but during the second programme there were only Channel 4
ads promoting C4 programmes, IIRC, and one for AXA Insurance at some
point, IIRC. That's quite unusual at prime time, in my experience.
On the other hand this may be my selective memory at work....!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
I might have to agree with you there......... I was trying to read an
article while the ads were on, but the breaks didn't seem long enough.
Did you see "Dark Enlightenment" on More4 straight after......a whole
load of tripe that was!!!
Didi
Got a link to an article the author (Michael Burleigh) that he wrote in
the Telegraph - it might give you an idea of what his program was like.
Here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1936713,00.html
Cheers
Didi
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| User: "hamilti" |
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18 Jan 2006 09:13:32 AM |
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Tripe? Hmm?
Historically correct perhaps and a bit of an eye-opener for me.
Basically it showed the only new elements provided by Dawkins are on
genetics - the rest is a rehash of previous ideas...
....many of which lead to genocide.
Cheers, Ian
Didi wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:55 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
<Ahem> That's "over here". You're "Over There".
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
Well yes, but during the second programme there were only Channel 4
ads promoting C4 programmes, IIRC, and one for AXA Insurance at some
point, IIRC. That's quite unusual at prime time, in my experience.
On the other hand this may be my selective memory at work....!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
I might have to agree with you there......... I was trying to read an
article while the ads were on, but the breaks didn't seem long enough.
Did you see "Dark Enlightenment" on More4 straight after......a whole
load of tripe that was!!!
Didi
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 12:23:53 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:rddss1d63a3dauvsg9cl1le6c8d4h2tk7i@4ax.com...
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:12 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Been away for a couple of weeks. Sorry if this has been raised before.
Besides the program itself, I thought that the most interesting thing
was the way that there were very few adverts between the sections of
both programmes. Were I wonder, were advertisers scared off by the
subject matter even in the religiously indifferent UK?
Probably not. It's not that controversial over there.
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
that doesn't seem to stop them during shows like Lost and Without a trace.
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| User: "martin" |
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| Title: Re: Dawkins - The Root Of All Evil. |
18 Jan 2006 01:51:56 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
One of the better things about British TV is that the BBC carries no
ads, and the commercial stations like Channel 4 are restricted in the
number of minutes per hour.
that doesn't seem to stop them during shows like Lost and Without a trace.
That's because in these cases the ad's are better than the show ~)
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