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User: "J Young"
Date: 28 Nov 2007 11:19:17 PM
Object: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates
In other words, morals and decency still count.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php
DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates
Ed Thomas
OneNewsNow.com
November 28, 2007
A spokeswoman for the public policy group Concerned Women For America (CWA)
is warning that a new report detailing Washington, DC's extensive rate of
HIV and AIDS should not exclude the prominent cause of the problem -- an
increase in cultural promiscuity.
While establishing that previous rates of HIV infection (1 out of 20) and
AIDS (1 out of 50) are still valid, the 120-page report also served as the
basis for health official Dr. Shannon Hader's statement that "HIV is
everybody's disease." Hader made her statement to The Washington Post. The
report also led to DC Mayor Adrian Fenty's statement that the HIV\AIDS
problem should be addressed with a sense of urgency that the "epidemic"
deserves.
Dr. Janice Crouse of CWA's think tank, the Beverly LaHaye Institute, says
use of the report is "distressing" because those who are at risk for
exposure to HIV/AIDS are primarily those engaging in sex with an infected
person, those sharing a contaminated needle, or those who come into contact
with the fluids of an infected person -- such as a healthcare worker. "Those
are the only ways you can get HIV/AIDS. And to say [that] everybody is
susceptible, everybody can get it, the new face of AIDS is heterosexual
women -- these are all just half-truths," she argues.
They also omit, Crouse says, the factors that conservatives and abstinence
advocates warn are primarily responsible -- promiscuity and drug use;
practices, she says, that are expanding the infection rate for DC residents
of all races and gender. "If you don't engage in either of those behaviors
[promiscuity and drugs], you're not going to get AIDS. It's a behavioral
problem," she states.
--
J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
.

User: "No One"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates 29 Nov 2007 12:10:41 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

In other words, morals and decency still count.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php

Dr. Janice Crouse of CWA's think tank, the Beverly LaHaye Institute, says
use of the report is "distressing" because those who are at risk for
exposure to HIV/AIDS are primarily those engaging in sex with an infected
person, those sharing a contaminated needle, or those who come into contact
with the fluids of an infected person -- such as a healthcare worker. "Those
are the only ways you can get HIV/AIDS. And to say [that] everybody is
susceptible, everybody can get it, the new face of AIDS is heterosexual
women -- these are all just half-truths," she argues.

They also omit, Crouse says, the factors that conservatives and abstinence
advocates warn are primarily responsible -- promiscuity and drug use;
practices, she says, that are expanding the infection rate for DC residents
of all races and gender. "If you don't engage in either of those behaviors
[promiscuity and drugs], you're not going to get AIDS. It's a behavioral
problem," she states.

Crouse doesn't know what she is talking about. You most certainly do
not have to be promiscuous to get AIDS. In fact, you can be married
and monogamous, with a single live-long sex partner. All it takes is
having sex enough times with an infected person.
BTW, <http://www.calvertinstitute.org/main/experts_detail.php?sourcebook_id=42>
has Crouse's education listed:
Academic Background
A.B.: Asbury College, Wilmore, Kentucky (English/Speech).
M.A.: Purdue University (Rhetoric, Public Address, Radio, Television).
Ph.D.: State University of New York at Buffalo (Communication Theory)
I presume "Communication Theory" mean propaganda, not what electrical
engineers mean by the term. She has no background in medicine. She's
basically a fundie, judging from her bio.
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV'sskyrocketing rates 29 Nov 2007 12:22:46 AM
On Nov 29, 1:10 am, No One <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

"J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> writes:

In other words, morals and decency still count.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php


Dr. Janice Crouse of CWA's think tank, the Beverly LaHaye Institute, says
use of the report is "distressing" because those who are at risk for
exposure to HIV/AIDS are primarily those engaging in sex with an infected
person, those sharing a contaminated needle, or those who come into contact
with the fluids of an infected person -- such as a healthcare worker. "Those
are the only ways you can get HIV/AIDS. And to say [that] everybody is
susceptible, everybody can get it, the new face of AIDS is heterosexual
women -- these are all just half-truths," she argues.


They also omit, Crouse says, the factors that conservatives and abstinence
advocates warn are primarily responsible -- promiscuity and drug use;
practices, she says, that are expanding the infection rate for DC residents
of all races and gender. "If you don't engage in either of those behaviors
[promiscuity and drugs], you're not going to get AIDS. It's a behavioral
problem," she states.


Crouse doesn't know what she is talking about. You most certainly do
not have to be promiscuous to get AIDS. In fact, you can be married
and monogamous, with a single live-long sex partner. All it takes is
having sex enough times with an infected person.

BTW, <http://www.calvertinstitute.org/main/experts_detail.php?sourcebook_id=42>
has Crouse's education listed:

Ph.D.: State University of New York at Buffalo (Communication Theory)

I presume "Communication Theory" mean propaganda, not what electrical
engineers mean by the term. She has no background in medicine. She's
basically a fundie, judging from her bio.

Well, UB is my local university (I live within sight of it) so I guess
I'm the one who should respond.
Communication Theory is handled through UB's Department of
Communications. From their website:
Doctor of Philosophy in Communication
The Ph.D. program trains students in the conduct of social science
research in human communication theories and processes. As such,
students take lectures and seminars in theory development, research
methods, advanced statistics, and content areas in communication,
including conflict resolution, health communication, organizational
communication, mass communication, social media and nonverbal
communication. The program is designed to prepare students for post-
doctoral work or positions in government or academia.
================
The University at Buffalo is most definitely *not* a fundie university
(it is, after all, the "home" university of the Skeptical Inquirer,
the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the American Humanist
Association) however the State of New York has no religious
restrictions on who can obtain degrees there. "Propaganda" might be a
bit harsh but it is not necessarily inaccurate given what she is using
her education for.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates 29 Nov 2007 12:56:59 AM
Lord Calvert <CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> writes:

On Nov 29, 1:10 am, No One <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

BTW,
<http://www.calvertinstitute.org/main/experts_detail.php?sourcebook_id=42>
has Crouse's education listed:


Ph.D.: State University of New York at Buffalo (Communication Theory)

I presume "Communication Theory" mean propaganda, not what electrical
engineers mean by the term. She has no background in medicine. She's
basically a fundie, judging from her bio.


Well, UB is my local university (I live within sight of it) so I guess
I'm the one who should respond.

Communication Theory is handled through UB's Department of
Communications. From their website:

Doctor of Philosophy in Communication

The Ph.D. program trains students in the conduct of social science
research in human communication theories and processes. As such,
students take lectures and seminars in theory development, research
methods, advanced statistics, and content areas in communication,
including conflict resolution, health communication, organizational
communication, mass communication, social media and nonverbal
communication. The program is designed to prepare students for post-
doctoral work or positions in government or academia.

================

The University at Buffalo is most definitely *not* a fundie university
(it is, after all, the "home" university of the Skeptical Inquirer,
the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the American Humanist
Association) however the State of New York has no religious
restrictions on who can obtain degrees there. "Propaganda" might be a
bit harsh but it is not necessarily inaccurate given what she is using
her education for.

I never said the University of Buffalo was a fundie university, but
rather that one of its graduates is a fundie, which is quite obvious
if you read the 'publications' listed on her bio.
She seems to be specializing in propaganda, however, given what she
said, and what she studied seems to be reasonable training for that
purpose.
She has no credibility regarding biology or medicine.
.



User: "Elf M. Sternberg"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV'sskyrocketing rates 29 Nov 2007 08:19:30 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

While establishing that previous rates of HIV infection (1 out of 20) and
AIDS (1 out of 50) are still valid...

In other words, the "skyrocketing" is really "hasn't changed
much in the past five years." It's amazing how badly you liars for
Christ want to get caught.
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
.
User: "Apostate"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates 30 Nov 2007 12:03:48 AM
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:87odddcex9.fsf@speakeasy.net...

"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

While establishing that previous rates of HIV infection (1 out of 20) and
AIDS (1 out of 50) are still valid...


In other words, the "skyrocketing" is really "hasn't changed
much in the past five years." It's amazing how badly you liars for
Christ want to get caught.

Elf

Just a minute!
Don't skyrockets fly ballistically (for the physics-challenged
posters, 'like a hunk of lead tossed up in the air')? Does not each
such trajectory have a turnaround point where upward momentum
has been spent against countervailing gravity, so that there's
momentarily a flat path parallel to the ground (ideally, at
least)? There you go: in Philadelphia-lawyerese, "skyrocketing" means
'essentially unvarying.'
You should be more careful, Elf. :-)
--
Apostate
aa# 1931
..sig undergoing maintenance


--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/

"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei

.


User: "LC"

Title: Re: DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates 29 Nov 2007 09:23:17 AM
Immoral and indecent netkook "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1ei7sv.ga6.19.1@news.alt.net...

In other words, morals and decency still count.

When do you plan on starting?:
"anal stimulation with a ***** helps enhance the spanking experience."
From:
(Jon Young), obviously looking forward to his
prison time.
Newsgroups: soc.sexuality.spanking
Subject: best done with help
Date: 5 Oct 2003 18:00:43 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310051700.31b4eb95@posting.google.com>
.

User: ""

Title: Re: J Young-the-virgin strikes again... 29 Nov 2007 12:38:51 AM
On 29 nov, 06:19, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

In other words, morals and decency still count.

It always counts. But you still don't anything about any of them.
Besides, just because you're still a virgin doesn't mean that
sexuality is immoral and indecent.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php

If we were interested in this pseudo news website, we'd read it. Why
do you keep sending those?
.

User: "Nosterill"

Title: Yang: Time to post your list again! 29 Nov 2007 05:17:29 AM
On Nov 29, 5:19 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

In other words, morals and decency still count.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php

DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates

Easy. Exceptionally high incidence of politicians amongst the populace.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: So J Young, Why Are Christians Conservatives Such Pedophiles? 29 Nov 2007 09:50:11 AM
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:17:29 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 29, 5:19 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

In other words, morals and decency still count.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php

DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates


Easy. Exceptionally high incidence of politicians amongst the populace.

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two
counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the
delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a
child.
* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for
soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks
later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S.
attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after
police began investigating allegations that he had molested three
girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls
under the age of 16.
* Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found
guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for
having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered
to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and
13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting
sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days
in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year
period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with
molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from
Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him
flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative
Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a
13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres
confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to
charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has
repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling
a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex
with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of
an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to
fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted
child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence
in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child
pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of
soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years
in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of
molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18
months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran
church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual
act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded
guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a
bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old
girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced
to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom
appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties
at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual
photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of
sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty
to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five
years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of
child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay
bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the
drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after
the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to
exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a
14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found
guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual
assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his
two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30
months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography
was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate
Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of
soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in
prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed
reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage
girls.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation"
Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced
to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development
Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography
on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard
A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen,
62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1
million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt
of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
.
User: "Nosterill"

Title: Re: So J Young, Why Are Christians Conservatives Such Pedophiles? 29 Nov 2007 10:21:09 AM
On Nov 29, 3:50 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:17:29 -0800 (PST), Nosterill

<fladg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 29, 5:19 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

In other words, morals and decency still count.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php


DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates


Easy. Exceptionally high incidence of politicians amongst the populace.


http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman

etc. etc. etc.
Thanks. Knew I could rely on you :-)
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: So J Young, Why Are Christians Conservatives Such Pedophiles? 29 Nov 2007 09:12:53 PM
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:21:09 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:50 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:17:29 -0800 (PST), Nosterill

<fladg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 29, 5:19 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

In other words, morals and decency still count.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/11/dc_officials_challenged_to_cit.php


DC officials challenged to cite behavioral cause of HIV's skyrocketing rates


Easy. Exceptionally high incidence of politicians amongst the populace.


http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman

etc. etc. etc.

Thanks. Knew I could rely on you :-)

Any day :-)
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
.





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