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Religions > Atheism |
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"Fred Stone" |
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20 Jan 2008 07:15:55 AM |
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Dear Third World Farmer |
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2008/01/dear_third_worl.html
Dear Third World Farmer...
Perry de Havilland (London) Globalization/economics
Thank you for trying to offer us high quality, low cost agricultural
products. However I am sorry but we would prefer it if you remain
dependent on tax funded handouts from First World governments and their
anointed NGOs. And speaking of NGOs, if you People of Colour start
getting involved in horrid global trade, what will happen to the people
who work for NGOs? We need NGOs so that our children can go work for them
in that pesky gap year, helping you poor ignorant dark people with your
Third Worldie Problems, and thereby allowing our kiddies to develop self-
esteem and feel good about themselves.
Also we prefer to see you living in photogenic eco-friendly low carbon
footprint mud huts, so please stop trying to pull yourself out of poverty
via icky capitalist global trade in the one area you should have a
comparative advantage. I say 'should' because actually we prefer to buy
our food from tax subsidised local farmers, for the good of the planet,
you understand.
Peace and love,
Janet Guardianista
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan
are the problem to begin with.
C. Hitchens
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 11:09:01 AM |
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On 20 Jan 2008 13:15:55 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2008/01/dear_third_worl.html
Dear Third World Farmer...
Perry de Havilland (London) Globalization/economics
Thank you for trying to offer us high quality, low cost agricultural
products. However I am sorry but we would prefer it if you remain
dependent on tax funded handouts from First World governments and their
anointed NGOs. And speaking of NGOs, if you People of Colour start
getting involved in horrid global trade, what will happen to the people
who work for NGOs? We need NGOs so that our children can go work for them
in that pesky gap year, helping you poor ignorant dark people with your
Third Worldie Problems, and thereby allowing our kiddies to develop self-
esteem and feel good about themselves.
Also we prefer to see you living in photogenic eco-friendly low carbon
footprint mud huts, so please stop trying to pull yourself out of poverty
via icky capitalist global trade in the one area you should have a
comparative advantage. I say 'should' because actually we prefer to buy
our food from tax subsidised local farmers, for the good of the planet,
you understand.
Peace and love,
Janet Guardianista
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown
in a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for you
to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly can't
be bothered to think through.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 12:07:32 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:47967e69.139370875@news-west.newscene.com:
On 20 Jan 2008 13:15:55 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2008/01/dear_third_worl.html
Dear Third World Farmer...
Perry de Havilland (London) Globalization/economics
Thank you for trying to offer us high quality, low cost agricultural
products. However I am sorry but we would prefer it if you remain
dependent on tax funded handouts from First World governments and
their anointed NGOs. And speaking of NGOs, if you People of Colour
start getting involved in horrid global trade, what will happen to the
people who work for NGOs? We need NGOs so that our children can go
work for them in that pesky gap year, helping you poor ignorant dark
people with your Third Worldie Problems, and thereby allowing our
kiddies to develop self- esteem and feel good about themselves.
Also we prefer to see you living in photogenic eco-friendly low carbon
footprint mud huts, so please stop trying to pull yourself out of
poverty via icky capitalist global trade in the one area you should
have a comparative advantage. I say 'should' because actually we
prefer to buy our food from tax subsidised local farmers, for the good
of the planet, you understand.
Peace and love,
Janet Guardianista
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
Yes, Kate, the way you want to "help" them is making them dependent on
your "help".
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown
in a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
Do you use locally-grown straw in your strawmen?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for you
to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly can't
be bothered to think through.
You don't see reason, that's obvious.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan
are the problem to begin with.
C. Hitchens
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| User: "Mr. B" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 04:36:14 PM |
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Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown
in a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for you
to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly can't
be bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian. If you are not familiar with such
people, they have this theory that by having no government involvement in
the economy, the world's problems will be solved. History has demonstrated
the opposite, but someone who is devoted to a political ideology (or just
doesn't like paying taxes) usually won't care.
-- B
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 05:09:39 PM |
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"Mr. B" <un@dis.closed> wrote in
news:4793ccde$0$24088$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown
in a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for
you to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly
can't be bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian. If you are not familiar with
such people, they have this theory that by having no government
involvement in the economy, the world's problems will be solved.
I guess I'm not that hardcore, because I don't claim that "no government
involvement in the economy" would solve all the world's problems.
History has demonstrated the opposite, but someone who is devoted to a
political ideology (or just doesn't like paying taxes) usually won't
care.
The fact that you can justify some historical role for government in the
economy doesn't mean that you can justify any role that you wish to
conceive for the government in the economy.
It is an obvservable fact that the present role of "first-world"
governments in propping up "third-world" governments with massive
infusions of "aid" is NOT helping to alleviate the economic miseries of
the "third world". Quite the contrary.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan
are the problem to begin with.
C. Hitchens
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 07:18:01 PM |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:36:14 -0500 in
4793ccde$0$24088$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "Mr. B" <un@dis.closed> wrote:
Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown in
a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for you
to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly can't be
bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian.
Hardly. Hardcore neo-con maybe but libertarian? No way...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Man's limitations are also visible in his gods. Yahveh
seems to have had His hands full with the Devil from
the start. His plans for Adam and Eve went to pot,
and He failed again with Noah. His worst failure came
when He sent His only-begotten Son into the world to
rescue man from sin. It would be hard to imagine any
scheme falling further from success.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 07:42:02 PM |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:18:01 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:36:14 -0500 in
4793ccde$0$24088$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "Mr. B" <un@dis.closed> wrote:
Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer is
trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food grown in
a way that destroys his country and import it in an ecologically
damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for you
to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly can't be
bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian.
Hardly. Hardcore neo-con maybe but libertarian? No way...
Nah, no libertarian would put up with Fred's opinions. They hate Bush
and have no sympathy for anyone who defends the Iraq war.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 08:14:33 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:4797f7d6.170456656@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:18:01 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:36:14 -0500 in
4793ccde$0$24088$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "Mr. B" <un@dis.closed>
wrote:
Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer
is trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food
grown in a way that destroys his country and import it in an
ecologically damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for
you to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly
can't be bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian.
Hardly. Hardcore neo-con maybe but libertarian? No way...
Nah, no libertarian would put up with Fred's opinions. They hate Bush
and have no sympathy for anyone who defends the Iraq war.
Kate doesn't seem to understand the difference between libertarians and
liberaltarians.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan
are the problem to begin with.
C. Hitchens
.
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: Dear Third World Farmer |
20 Jan 2008 11:37:54 PM |
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On 21 Jan 2008 02:14:33 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:4797f7d6.170456656@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:18:01 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:36:14 -0500 in
4793ccde$0$24088$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "Mr. B" <un@dis.closed>
wrote:
Kate wrote:
Lets see. Is Fred trying to imply that helping a 3rd world farmer
is trying to keep him down?
And that patronizing local farmers is bad? That the only way a 3rd
world farmer can make a living is if we Americans buy his food
grown in a way that destroys his country and import it in an
ecologically damaging gas wasting way clear to another continent?
What are you trying to say Fred? Because I don't see a reason for
you to make up crap and whine yet again about stuff you evidenntly
can't be bothered to think through.
Fred is just a hardcore libertarian.
Hardly. Hardcore neo-con maybe but libertarian? No way...
Nah, no libertarian would put up with Fred's opinions. They hate Bush
and have no sympathy for anyone who defends the Iraq war.
Kate doesn't seem to understand the difference between libertarians and
liberaltarians.
Not all libertarians are of the Boortzian type, Fred.
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