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"BANG KRISLAM" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:14:56 AM |
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Death |
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in the
Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of death
I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding all the
way."
What is death like? It is like falling asleep. It's in the Bible, I
Thessalonians 4:13, NIV. "Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about
those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope."
and in John 11:11-14, NIV. "After He had said this, He went on to tell them,
'Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.'
His disciples replied, 'Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.' Jesus had
been speaking of his death, but His disciples thought He meant natural
sleep. So then He told them plainly, 'Lazarus is dead'."
Where does Daniel say the dead are sleeping? It's in the Bible, Daniel 12:2,
NIV. "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake."
Do the dead know anything? It's in the Bible, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10, NIV.
"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they
have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten. Their
love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again
will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. Whatever your
hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are
going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."
But death is not the end! It's in the Bible, Isaiah 26:19, NIV. "But your
dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up
and shout for joy."
What does Jesus promise those who die? It's in the Bible, Hosea 13:14, NIV.
"I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from
death."
Resurrection power comes from Christ. It's in the Bible, I Corinthians
15:21-22, NIV. "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the
dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will
be made alive."
Why did God give His Son to the world? It's in the Bible, John 3:16, NIV.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever
believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Both good and evil people are resurrected. It's in the Bible, John 5:28-29,
NIV. "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in
their graves will hear His voice and come out-those who have done good will
rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned."
The righteous are resurrected at the second coming of Christ. It's in the
Bible, I Thessalonians 4:16-17, NIV. "For the Lord Himself will come down
from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with
the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that,
we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in the
clouds to meet the Lord in the air."
What will we be like after the resurrection? It's in the Bible, Philippians
3:20-21, NIV. "But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a
Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables Him
to bring everything under His control, will transform our lowly bodies so
that they will be like His glorious body."
How long will the resurrected righteous live? It's in the Bible, Luke 20:36,
NIV. "And they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are
God's children, since they are children of the resurrection."
How long do the wicked wait after the first resurrection before they are
raised? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:4-5, NIV. "They [the righteous]
came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead
did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)"
What is their fate? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:9, NIV. "Fire came down
from heaven and devoured them."
Who are the wicked? It's in the Bible, Revelation 21:8, NIV. "But the
cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral,
those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place will
be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
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| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Death |
17 Jan 2006 06:15:15 AM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us.
You're ***** fucking scared of death, aren'cha...
The clock is ticking..... DO something other than clutching your hands, eyes
tight shut, while kneeling, trembling, to a phantasm of your mind.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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16 Jan 2006 06:55:54 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death?
Bravely.
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| User: "mel turner" |
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16 Jan 2006 06:25:17 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us.
[snip]
Why should the fact that you're not going to be around
after you're dead bother you any more than the fact that
you similarly weren't here long before you were born?
Why is the one absence more scary than the other?
cheers
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| User: "Uncle Gordon" |
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16 Jan 2006 06:33:05 PM |
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"mel turner" <mturner@snipthis.acpub.duke.edu> wrote in message
news:dqhcr6$u0n$1@gargoyle.oit.
Why should the fact that you're not going to be around
after you're dead bother you any more than the fact that
you similarly weren't here long before you were born?
Why is the one absence more scary than the other?
.... *Especially* given the fact that, if you're clever about it, you can die
leaving a *huge* credit-card bill...!!!
Gord.
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| User: "ManMadeGod" |
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16 Jan 2006 03:54:13 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
How can we face death?
How do you face life?
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| User: "Olrik" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:16:03 PM |
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ManMadeGod wrote:
"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
How can we face death?
How do you face life?
In fear of death, apparently...
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:29:51 AM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death?
How can we not? Duh.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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16 Jan 2006 12:45:36 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us.
Yeah, but you don't know if the god is with you, or if you're going to the
heaven or the hell.
If I was you, and believed in crap like that, I'd be very afraid.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "kathryn" |
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16 Jan 2006 12:07:42 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in
the Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of
death I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding
all the way."
You're preaching the wrong crowd mate.
We shall now poke you with sticks
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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16 Jan 2006 03:10:02 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in
the Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of
death I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding
all the way."
Other religious crap against the alt.atheism FAQ
deleted. Troll killfiled.
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| User: "Torch" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:18:55 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
More infantile babblings from another imbecile who cant handle reality -
your brain died when your abusive parents decided to indoctinate it with
their poisonous religous nonsense.
Your brain is so enfeebled it cant even see that what you posted is
inconsistent
Who are the wicked? It's in the Bible, Revelation 21:8, NIV. "But the
cowardly,
cowardly ??? doesnt that include people like you who live their lives so
cowed and craven by the thought of death that they waste it believing in
infantile fairy stories about what happens after
the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who
practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars
liars??? but earlier you said:
Why did God give His Son to the world? It's in the Bible, John 3:16, NIV.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
so from John 3:16 the sole condition for eternal life is a belief in Jesus -
but from revelation 21:9 it includes liars (whether they believe in jesus or
not) - so if the bible is the word of god he is clearly lying does he go in
the lake as well???
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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16 Jan 2006 04:17:37 PM |
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"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
Subject: Death
Worms. Bugs. Funnnnngusssss.
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Keep THOR in THURSDAY!
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:22:26 AM |
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BANG KRISLAM wrote:
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in the
Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of death
I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding all the
way."
<snip>
I do believe you managed to be off topic in every group. Bad troll.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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17 Jan 2006 05:17:13 AM |
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On 16 Jan 2006 09:22:26 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1137432146.086458.51230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
BANG KRISLAM wrote:
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in the
Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of death
I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding all the
way."
<snip>
I do believe you managed to be off topic in every group. Bad troll.
It's the sudden rash of all uppercase Indonesion names that give this
moron away.
It's probably not a troll, much to my dismay.
They make religious loonies by the ton there as well.
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| User: "Bill" |
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17 Jan 2006 10:17:44 AM |
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Get real, when your dead your dead!
There is NO objective verifiable evidence of ANY after life. Despite
billions of dead people, No sane honest person has ever been able to
communicate with dead relatives or friends except in their dreams.
If believing in an after life in heaven makes you feel better, dream on!
"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Death
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in
the Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of
death I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding
all the way."
What is death like? It is like falling asleep. It's in the Bible, I
Thessalonians 4:13, NIV. "Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant
about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have
no hope." and in John 11:11-14, NIV. "After He had said this, He went on
to tell them, 'Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there
to wake him up.' His disciples replied, 'Lord, if he sleeps, he will get
better.' Jesus had been speaking of his death, but His disciples thought
He meant natural sleep. So then He told them plainly, 'Lazarus is dead'."
Where does Daniel say the dead are sleeping? It's in the Bible, Daniel
12:2, NIV. "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake."
Do the dead know anything? It's in the Bible, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10, NIV.
"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they
have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten. Their
love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again
will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. Whatever
your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where
you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor
wisdom."
But death is not the end! It's in the Bible, Isaiah 26:19, NIV. "But your
dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up
and shout for joy."
What does Jesus promise those who die? It's in the Bible, Hosea 13:14,
NIV. "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them
from death."
Resurrection power comes from Christ. It's in the Bible, I Corinthians
15:21-22, NIV. "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of
the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ
all will be made alive."
Why did God give His Son to the world? It's in the Bible, John 3:16, NIV.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Both good and evil people are resurrected. It's in the Bible, John
5:28-29, NIV. "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who
are in their graves will hear His voice and come out-those who have done
good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be
condemned."
The righteous are resurrected at the second coming of Christ. It's in the
Bible, I Thessalonians 4:16-17, NIV. "For the Lord Himself will come down
from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with
the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After
that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in
the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."
What will we be like after the resurrection? It's in the Bible,
Philippians 3:20-21, NIV. "But our citizenship is in heaven. And we
eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the
power that enables Him to bring everything under His control, will
transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like His glorious body."
How long will the resurrected righteous live? It's in the Bible, Luke
20:36, NIV. "And they can no longer die; for they are like the angels.
They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection."
How long do the wicked wait after the first resurrection before they are
raised? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:4-5, NIV. "They [the righteous]
came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the
dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)"
What is their fate? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:9, NIV. "Fire came
down from heaven and devoured them."
Who are the wicked? It's in the Bible, Revelation 21:8, NIV. "But the
cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral,
those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-their place
will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Death |
16 Jan 2006 12:18:33 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, BANG KRISLAM poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
It's in the Bible
How fortunate for you. Saves you the trouble of thinking.
Regards,
Josef
When the only tool you have is a hammer, then every problem starts to
look like a nail.
-- Abraham Maslow
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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16 Jan 2006 05:20:15 PM |
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In article <kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
"BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com> wrote:
How can we face death?
The only reasonable way to face death is as a natural part of life. It
happens to everyone, sooner or later. Deal with it.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Liz" |
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16 Jan 2006 08:42:40 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:14:56 GMT, "BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com>
in news message <kwQyf.10290$dW3.3133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>
wrote:
How can we face death?
With style.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "stoney" |
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17 Jan 2006 08:22:17 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:14:56 GMT, "BANG KRISLAM" <mandiri@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Death
How can we face death?
In a relaxed mode, of course. Poor terrified moron grasping faerie
tales. How sad and what a waste.
[snip vapid xrister drooling idiocy]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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17 Jan 2006 12:28:12 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet BANG KRISLAM
(mandiri@hotmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Death
How can we face death?
By wearing yourself out while you're alive.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:06:46 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "BANG KRISLAM"
<mandiri@hotmail.com> posting the following on Mon, 16 Jan 2006
17:14:56 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Death
How can we face death?
I have killed people as a soldier. Been told that I had a 50/50
chance of living to see 30. Been within hours of death from pneumonia,
and died on the operating table for 90 seconds.
How do you face death? By LIVING. Live every moment as if it were
your last, because it may well be.
And on thaty subject... how about a nice Irish drinking song on the
subject?
RAMBLING ROVER
Andy M. Stewart
Chorus:
There are sober men a-plenty, And drunkards barely twenty,
There are men of over ninety, Who have never yet kissed a girl,
But give me a rambling rover, From Orkney down to Dover,
We'll roam the country over, And together we'll face the world.
(Chorus)
There are those who claim enjoyment, Of merciless employment,
Their ambition this deployment, Since the minute they left the school,
And they scrape and save and ponder, While the rest go out and
squander,
See the world and rove and wander, For they're happier as a rule.
(Chorus)
I have roamed through all the nations, Took delight in all creation,
I've enjoyed a wee sensation, When the company did prove kind,
When parting was no pleasure, I drank another measure,
To the good friends that we treasure, For they always are on our mind.
(Chorus)
If you`re bent with arthritis, and your bowels have got colitis
You`ve galloping bollockitis, and you`re thinking it`s time you`d died
If you`ve been a man of action, and your lying there in traction
You can gain some satisfaction, thinking Jayses at least I tried
(Chorus)
(Chorus)
(Drink more beer)
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:28:01 PM |
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cult zombie babbled:
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us.
Yes we need to be afraid, at least with _this_ gawd. Considering the gory
details in which the wholly babble describes this monster's dishonesty and
sadism, anyone who counts on being saved by this psychopath (saved from
what? From itself, go figure!) is a moron.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2006 10:01:07 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:28:01 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in alt.atheism
cult zombie babbled:
How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us.
Yes we need to be afraid, at least with _this_ gawd. Considering the gory
details in which the wholly babble describes this monster's dishonesty and
sadism, anyone who counts on being saved by this psychopath (saved from
what? From itself, go figure!) is a moron.
Worse is after a lifetime of grovelling it lovingly sends you to a
righteous stint of eternal torture.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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