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"Joe" |
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22 Dec 2007 04:04:24 PM |
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Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Religious.html
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
24 Dec 2007 03:06:37 PM |
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On Dec 22, 4:04=A0pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Religious.html
REPLY: I read some of the site. Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity...its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with the Theistic personal
Creator whom you know too, must exist for what we have . So much
atheist propoganda is replete with misconceptions which is the whole
basis for the strawman attacks ; thus, they are being disengenuous
cause they cant get it truthful from the start. Of course, it isnt
really about being truthful .... its about using whatever you have in
your arsenal regardless. Conversely, whatever the Bible has to say
regarding willful atheists..such as in Romans 1:18-26 IS precisely
true . The difference then is : One is a deception masquerading as
'truth' by fallable men with an axe to grind , while the other IS the
absolute truth because it is inspired by a holy moral Creator who
cannot lie. Which do u think is wiser to put your trust in (if
your pride will allow) ?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
25 Dec 2007 07:24:12 PM |
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"The Supreme Court of the United States has said that a religion,
for purposes of the First Amendment, is distinct from a 'way of life,'
even if that way of life is inspired by philosophical beliefs or other
secular concerns," noted the Seventh Circuit ruling. "A religion need
not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being, (or
beings, for polytheistic faiths) nor must be it be a mainstream
faith." Relevant cases include: WISCONSIN v YODER (1972); TORCASO v
WATKINS (1961); MALNAK v YOGI (1979) and LINDELL v MCCALLUM (2003).
"Without venturing too far into the real of the philosophical,"
continued the court, "we have suggested in the past that when a person
sincerely holds beliefs dealing with issues of 'ultimate concern' that
occupy a 'place parallel to that filled by God in traditional
religious persons,' those beliefs represent her religion."
The Circuit Court judges also noted: "The Supreme Court has
recognized atheism as equivalent to a 'religion' for purposes of the
First Amendment on numerous occasions, most recently in MCCREARY
COUNTY, KY V ACLU OF KY (2005)." In addition, "the Court has adopted a
broad definition of 'religion' that includes non-theistic and
atheistic beliefs, as well as theistic ones." The TORCASO v WATKINS
ruling declared that a state cannot "pass laws or impose requirements
which aid all religions as against non-believers, and neither can aid
those religions based on a belief in the existence of God as against
those religions founded on different beliefs." Thus, opined the high
court, "'Secular Humanism' (is) an example of a religion."
WHAT GOVERNMENT CALLS RELIGION
Despite the explicit prohibition on mixing government and religion,
states throughout the country still have statutes which provide all
manner of "perks," special exemptions and services for religious
organizations. One such tax exemption is currently be challenged by
American Atheists in Kentucky.
In 1995, the Ethical Society of Austin, TX -- a branch of the
American Ethical Union -- was organized, and the following year filed
for a tax-exempt status from sales, use, excise, hotel and franchise
taxes as a "religious" entity. The State Comptroller's office
initially rejected the application, but sent the request to its Tax
Policy Group composed of the highest ranking officials in the agency.
It concluded that under several citations from US Supreme Court
decisions, the ESA qualified for the exemption.
A news story then appeared in the Austin American-Statesman paper
in 1997 ("Godless Group Gets Religious Exemption"). Shortly
thereafter, the Comptroller's office issued a "letter of correction"
stating that the Ethical Society of Austin was not a "religious"
group, and that its special tax-exempt status was being withdrawn. A
trial followed, and the court ruled that using its understanding of a
"Supreme Being" test, the state had erred and violated the First
Amendment.
Once again, the State of Texas went to court, this time on appeal.
The Third District Texas Court of Appeals ruled for the Ethical
Culture group, citing many of the same federal cases that were
incorporated in last week's federal Seventh Circuit Court ruling.
Noting that even Blacks Law Dictionary stated religion "in its
broadest sense includes all forms of belief in the existence of
superior beings exercising power over human beings," the court saw the
First Amendment protection of religion as being more robust, expansive
and inclusive.
"Because the scope of religious belief defies easy
characterization, we believe that a constitutionally sufficient
inquiry cannot be bound by this common understanding of religion.
Otherwise, the courts would find themselves as a matter of law
declaring entire belief systems that certainly qualify as religions --
such as Buddhism, Taoism, and some strains of Unitarianism -- to be
outside of the First Amendment's protection."
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
27 Dec 2007 10:09:05 AM |
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<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
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ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
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| User: "" |
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27 Dec 2007 12:26:55 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
While you look for the balls that will permit you to accept the truth
about your atheist religion.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
27 Dec 2007 07:57:53 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
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ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
Ben
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
28 Dec 2007 08:44:14 AM |
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"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> skrev i en
meddelelse news:url8n3t7u5ctgdnekcsv3po2mcsnntvh8u@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
Ben
Ah yes! You should see some of the stamps I never acquired. Some of them
are very rare.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
02 Jan 2008 07:39:21 AM |
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[snips]
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:14 +0100, thomas p. wrote:
Ah yes! You should see some of the stamps I never acquired. Some of them
are very rare.
Indeed. The copies I don't have of the blue and orange Mauritius are
stunning.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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02 Jan 2008 07:57:12 AM |
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Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
[snips]
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:14 +0100, thomas p. wrote:
Ah yes! You should see some of the stamps I never acquired. Some of them
are very rare.
Indeed. The copies I don't have of the blue and orange Mauritius are
stunning.
Of COURSE you collect stamps, Kelsey. You just deny that you do.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
02 Jan 2008 10:00:09 AM |
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"DanielSan" <petersonj07@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:7OKdnTlT1K5VCubanZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com...
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
[snips]
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:14 +0100, thomas p. wrote:
Ah yes! You should see some of the stamps I never acquired. Some of
them are very rare.
Indeed. The copies I don't have of the blue and orange Mauritius are
stunning.
Of COURSE you collect stamps, Kelsey. You just deny that you do.
He and I are discollectors.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
27 Dec 2007 08:27:11 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Ben
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
28 Dec 2007 08:45:18 AM |
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<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9fn8n39cjdg4mudfsvejfgqvgau6uf4krn@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Oh darn! You are still boring.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
28 Dec 2007 06:37:49 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:45:18 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9fn8n39cjdg4mudfsvejfgqvgau6uf4krn@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Oh darn! You are still boring.
But you keep dancing, boy. Now do a little soft shoe for the folks.
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
29 Dec 2007 06:56:28 AM |
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<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:mk5bn3tr8safdok1m09ga6f2rrj8o06rdu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:45:18 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9fn8n39cjdg4mudfsvejfgqvgau6uf4krn@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Oh darn! You are still boring.
But you keep dancing, boy. Now do a little soft shoe for the folks.
Oh, now I understand. You are easily amused and are projecting. Thank you
for the explanation.
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30 Dec 2007 05:09:26 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:56:28 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:mk5bn3tr8safdok1m09ga6f2rrj8o06rdu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:45:18 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9fn8n39cjdg4mudfsvejfgqvgau6uf4krn@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Oh darn! You are still boring.
But you keep dancing, boy. Now do a little soft shoe for the folks.
Oh, now I understand. You are easily amused and are projecting. Thank you
for the explanation.
No, you don't understand -- you're like a puppet on strings. I DICTATE
WHAT YOU WILL DO.
Now we'll have some square dancing. Get to it, boy.
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
31 Dec 2007 03:05:43 AM |
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<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:759gn3l08gdi0n462c71grd6eepscneld1@4ax.com...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:56:28 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:mk5bn3tr8safdok1m09ga6f2rrj8o06rdu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:45:18 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:9fn8n39cjdg4mudfsvejfgqvgau6uf4krn@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:05 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<bo_dacious@mactan.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:r5b3n35hffcq3f4unoe6v68j1s342eg4tb@4ax.com...
snip
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Boring! Find some new nonsense to post.
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
The atheists favorite quote from the
Big Book of Atheist Dogma (BBAD),
They dog-ear the page in section 498(d)4
Oh darn! You are still boring.
But you keep dancing, boy. Now do a little soft shoe for the folks.
Oh, now I understand. You are easily amused and are projecting. Thank
you
for the explanation.
No, you don't understand -- you're like a puppet on strings. I DICTATE
WHAT YOU WILL DO.
Now we'll have some square dancing. Get to it, boy.
Bye now! Have a nice day.
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| User: "Michael" |
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28 Dec 2007 08:07:03 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:57:53 -0500, Ben Kaufman wrote:
How about the incredibly exciting hobby of "not stamp collecting?"
Ben
Thank you! I laughed to tears and realize I am taking this non-existence
way too seriously :-)
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26 Dec 2007 12:32:21 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 01:24:12 +0000, bo_dacious wrote:
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES!
Except for your total misreading of the cases, you might have a point...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“It is one of the Christian delusions that Christianity
brought charity into the world. It did no such thing.
There were plenty of agencies for taking care of the
poor and helpless long before Christianity was heard
of, and even before Judaism. Both Christianity and
Judaism have converted charity into a sort of pious racket.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "David V." |
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24 Dec 2007 03:31:23 PM |
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wrote:
On Dec 22, 4:04 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Religious.html
REPLY: I read some of the site.
You can read? I can see you didn't understand what you read.
Your god, your religion, are myths. Grow up and move on.
--
Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
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| User: "James Beck" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
26 Dec 2007 11:41:44 AM |
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In article <4cd52872-b35b-43c8-98cf-ce438918ec06
@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, says...
I read some of the site. Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity.
..its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with the Theistic personal
Creator
Then why are there so many churches?
If all you need is a personal relationship with your god, you can have
that at home. Being TOLD how to have that relationship goes against the
very act of it being PERSONAL. Discussing it is just another way of
attempting to influence others into a consensus and that goes against it
being PERSONAL.
Jim
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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24 Dec 2007 05:09:54 PM |
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On Dec 24, 2:06=A0pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <IlBeBa...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 22, 4:04=A0pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Religious.html
REPLY: =A0I read some of the site. =A0Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity...its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with the Theistic personal
Creator whom you know too, must exist for what we have . =A0
If you have any evidence that any god actually exists outside of the
human imagination, please post it immediately. You'll be the first.
In light of the paucity of that evidence, I find I cannot believe in
any magic supernatural being, in spite of your insistence that I
somehow "know" that such an outlandish thing exists.
So much
atheist propoganda is replete with misconceptions which is the whole
basis for the strawman attacks ; thus, they are being disengenuous
cause they cant get it truthful from the start. =A0Of course, =A0it isnt
really about being truthful .... its about using whatever you have in
your arsenal =A0regardless. =A0
We have to keep repeating ourselves because fatuous assholes like you
*never* have an answer for our arguments, *never* present any actual
evidence for the existence of your god-thingy, and *never* have the
good grace to either shut up, or have a proper dialog.
Conversely, whatever the Bible has to say
regarding willful atheists..such as in Romans 1:18-26 =A0IS =A0precisely
true . =A0The difference then is : =A0One is a deception masquerading as
'truth' =A0by fallable men with an axe to grind , while the other IS the
absolute truth because it is inspired by a holy moral Creator who
cannot lie. =A0 =A0Which do u think is wiser to put your trust in =A0(if
your pride will allow) ?
It's not a matter of pride, in spite of what your Bronze Age book of
mythology and your fundy handlers tell you. It's a matter of
evidence for the existence of your god. There simply isn't any.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
25 Dec 2007 03:48:04 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:06:37 -0800, wrote:
On Dec 22, 4:04 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Religious.html
REPLY: I read some of the site. Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity...its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with invisible, magical
fairies for which nobody has a damn bit of evidence.
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--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The notion that a radical is one who hates his country
is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one
who likes his country more than the rest of us, and
is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees
it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime;
he is a good citizen driven to despair.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Michael" |
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24 Dec 2007 03:36:34 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:06:37 -0800, wrote:
REPLY: I read some of the site. Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity...its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with the Theistic personal
Creator whom you know too, must exist for what we have
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
In fact, while we see that atheists have a secret language, how is that
different than yours? When you speak across a culture gap, one must take
this huge difference into account: words do not have the same meaning.
Variation among Christians is *enormous*. Even though all cite the bible
as an authority, it would seem that the authority does not actually
specify much: Doing good to your neighbors, forgiving offenses against
you, being humble in a humble way (not prideful, not conspicuously humble,
nobody should know when you fast or pray).
More than that starts to get into the "government of the church" -- a
necessary feature of any organization, but it should be recognized as an
element of social organization rather than part of Christianity.
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
24 Dec 2007 04:51:10 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org> wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
#2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
25 Dec 2007 04:41:44 AM |
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"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:rnd0n39sf1lf4poo1atcvd3a9eg22gkhhi@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go
about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
Don't beat around the bush. Say what you mean.
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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25 Dec 2007 07:35:38 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:41:44 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:rnd0n39sf1lf4poo1atcvd3a9eg22gkhhi@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go
about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
Don't beat around the bush. Say what you mean.
I was being gentle, in honor of The Season.
#2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
25 Dec 2007 09:46:01 AM |
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"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:41:44 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:rnd0n39sf1lf4poo1atcvd3a9eg22gkhhi@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go
about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
Don't beat around the bush. Say what you mean.
I was being gentle, in honor of The Season.
Very decent of you.
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
25 Dec 2007 11:45:56 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:46:01 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fnu1n3hmmtsi39tvq5lmgofg4reaqsdk2f@4ax.com...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:41:44 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:rnd0n39sf1lf4poo1atcvd3a9eg22gkhhi@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go
about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
Don't beat around the bush. Say what you mean.
I was being gentle, in honor of The Season.
Very decent of you.
You should see my Tiny Tim impression (of the one with the crutch, not the one
with the ukulele): 'twould warm both the cockles and the mussels of your heart.
#2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
27 Dec 2007 10:04:40 AM |
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"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:46:01 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fnu1n3hmmtsi39tvq5lmgofg4reaqsdk2f@4ax.com...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:41:44 +0100, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"Don Martin" <drdonmartin@comcast.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:rnd0n39sf1lf4poo1atcvd3a9eg22gkhhi@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
This seems confusing. At any rate, I
propose a moratorium on "Christianity is..." statements since this
sentence will be completed in so many different ways as to suggest
that
the word has no meaning.
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go
about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Go ***** yourself with a crenellated chamber pot, dipshit.
Don't beat around the bush. Say what you mean.
I was being gentle, in honor of The Season.
Very decent of you.
You should see my Tiny Tim impression (of the one with the crutch, not the
one
with the ukulele): 'twould warm both the cockles and the mussels of your
heart.
No doubt - I found the other Tiny Tim more believable.
#2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old
man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking the propaganda of religious people |
27 Dec 2007 07:16:24 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:51:10 -0500, Don Martin wrote:
And upon what authority does a pious little turd, such as yourself, go about
proposing rules of conduct for an _atheist_ news group?
Mine, of course. I weary of having to explain the obvious. By what
authority do YOU post your illiterate profanities? Yours, of course.
This is an unmoderated "alt" newsgroup, each citizen is his own authority.
Is not that the very essence of "freethinking"? There is no God -- what
exactly does that LEAVE? Why, nothing at all! You are free to be you,
and I am free to be me. Gotta love "alt.anything".
I'll plonk you now of course. Your freedom to post is unaltered, but I
will not see it. Should it happen that you post something interesting to
this forum, maybe someone else will quote it and I will then see it.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Dec 2007 03:48:42 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:36:34 -0700, Michael wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:06:37 -0800, wrote:
REPLY: I read some of the site. Its bogus right off the bat because
Christianity is not based on performing a bunch of religiousity...its
based on having a PERSONSAL RELATIONSHIP with the Theistic personal
Creator whom you know too, must exist for what we have
This seems confusing. At any rate, I propose a moratorium on
"Christianity is..."
I propose you moratorium your *****...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt.
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