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"Joe" |
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25 Nov 2003 02:39:51 PM |
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Decision-making using logic not feelings |
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
26 Nov 2003 10:11:09 AM |
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On 25 Nov 2003, "Joe" <blue@sky.com> screwed up his face, groaned,
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in news:3fc3bf14$0
$25040$afc38c87@vipnews:
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
Let's see if I have this straight.
Atheists are irrational, because there is a proposition that doesn't
necessarily contradict what we know of reality, and we don't
unquestioningly accept that proposition as true?
Did you know that the existence of Santa Claus doesn't necessarily
contradict what we know of reality?
Do you believe in Santa Claus?
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
25 Nov 2003 04:45:51 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:51 -0000, "Joe" <blue@sky.com> wrote:
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
How ludicrous for a theist to encourage others to think logically.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
There is no reason to think there is a supernatural reality. There is
no evidence for such a reality. Conclusion: There is no
justification for basing one's entire life on such an empty concept.
snip of remaining inanity
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
25 Nov 2003 03:18:47 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:51 -0000, "Joe" <blue@sky.com> wrote:
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Some people imagine that the rest of the world revolves around their
religion, totally ignoring the fact that the rest of the world (a)
doesn't and (b) sees their religion in much the same light they
themselves see the other religions that are irrelevant to them.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
No self-defence.
Just zero reason to believe in any of the deities of any of the
religions, let alone yours.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
What "supernatural"? There is zero reason to consider it. No evidecne.
Nothing whatsoever to lead one to conclude it. Bsides which, as soon
as it is investigated it becomes natural.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
What "God"? There is zero reason to consider it. No evidence. Nothing
that could lead one to conclude it.
By your logic it is equally possible that the Great Arkleseizure
exists. Or Binky the 90 foot carrot.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
Frustrated sigh.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
28 Nov 2003 10:00:03 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:51 -0000, "Joe" <blue@sky.com>, Message ID:
<3fc3bf14$0$25040$afc38c87@vipnews> wrote in alt.atheism;
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
People like you, Joe. Emotions not logic.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Self-defense?
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
Not this drivel again. You borrowed 5000 UKPfrom me and are past the
date when you had promised me the funds would be repaid. The funds are
owed since you do not have a receipt from me indicating the debt was
paid. You, sir, are a liar and a thief.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Practice what you preach, Sport.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
It's not information you're manipulating, its *****.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
It has and so has the "Bible."
A coherant definition of the g-o-d letter string would be?
The objective supporting evidence for all your handwaving would be?
therefore it is possible God exists.
What is this g-o-d letter string you keep utilizing?
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
Can't stop repeating yourself? Folks here aren't superstitious so they
heard you the first time.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
Please, get an education. Your writing was very painful to read.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
25 Nov 2003 04:10:26 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:39:51 +1100, Joe wrote
(in message <3fc3bf14$0$25040$afc38c87@vipnews>):
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Well, I'm an atheist, but I have no idea what you mean by the rest
of that sentence.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
This really needs tightening up, it comes across as babble.
e.g. if information exists then of course I'm manipulating it,
/long/ before it gets anywhere near a level where I can consider
it using the tools of rational thought. [consider what
'information' actually reaches the eyes of a normally sighted and
normally encephalised human, then consider what they 'see' - the
'information' has been manipulated already.]
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
Definition & attributes of 'God' being?
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
Sorry, I have no idea what scope you have in mind when you say
'God'.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too much
suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that there is a
Nope, that would depend on the attributes of the 'God' in
question.
lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of time to get
over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
So life is a paper cut?
Would it be OK to keep my children on a
minimal-food-to-sustain-life diet for the next few years, provided
I feed them well for the rest of their lives?
And, does this 'infinity of time' to get over the suffering in
this life depend on any particular actions, or is it automatic?
If it is automatic, then why bother with this phase? If it is not
automatic, then isn't it a bit 'manipulative' to suggest that
suffering in this life will be repaid in the next, when it is
actually contingent on something else (and so suffering in this
life may not repaid)?
Have Fun
Martin
--
aa #1792
Almost always SMASHed
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| User: "Severian" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
25 Nov 2003 10:28:49 PM |
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Please pardon the top-post -- but if you've read it once, you should
*not* read it again: its stupidity may rub off on you. After two
readings, you may have to be institutionalized.
Below you will find the lessness in meaninglessness, the vacuole in
vacuum, and the tard in retarded.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:51 -0000, "Joe" <blue@sky.com> wrote:
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic. Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence. For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
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| User: "Arjen Klaver" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
25 Nov 2003 03:08:53 PM |
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at news:3fc3bf14$0$25040$afc38c87@vipnews "Joe" <blue@sky.com> wrote in
news:3fc3bf14$0$25040$afc38c87@vipnews:
Some people see the World going by their feelings and not
by logic.
Why did you capitalize the word 'World'?
Some of these people are entitled to because it is
self-defence.
Self defence against what?
For those whom it is not self-defence it would
be rewarding to put effort into attempting to teach themselves
to think logially. This may mean breaking through conditioning.
Atheists who believe we are in a Universe on are own in
self-defence can ignore the rest of this post.
I have no clue what is wriiten here.
Why would you like to defend yourself when you are alone in your universe?
Science has not debunked supernatural therefore it may be
possible supernatural exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to indentify if you are manipulating information.
The defination of supernatural is that science has not debunked it. It is
super/out of the natural.
Science has not debunked the possibly of the existance of God
therefore it is possible God exists.
You could try to line your feelings up with this.
Try to identify if you are manipulating information.
Science has debunked the judo-xtian god (for most parts).
An example of manipulation would be to say there is too
much suffering in the World for God to exist. I say that
there is a lot of suffering but we have infinity amount of
time to get over the suffering in this life. That is not belittling
suffering though.
Since when do we live forever? I missed that memo.
Conclusion:
So..... there is a very remote change that god exist, so I should start to
worship it, I do not think so.
Greetings,
Arjen Klaver
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| User: "agray" |
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| Title: Re: Decision-making using logic not feelings |
26 Nov 2003 12:56:20 PM |
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Arjen Klaver wrote:
Conclusion:
So..... there is a very remote change that god exist, so I should start to
worship it, I do not think so.
Cue frothing idiot with "Pascal's Wager" post in 3... 2... 1...
--
Andy
Yaay! We're doomed! ---- GIR
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