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Religions > Atheism |
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"kate" |
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27 Mar 2005 12:58:05 AM |
| Object: |
delurking to ask a question |
why have an ongoing discussion about something you you don't believe
in?
kate
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
31 Mar 2005 07:18:14 AM |
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To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of all
of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly referred to
as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very careful around the
Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then double check yourself to
see how old Noah was at the flood in order not to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x?
Patriarchal number? Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing with
her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even know
what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the outside
corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=so
urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
05 Apr 2005 06:34:13 PM |
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On Mar 31, 2005, georgann sent message
<BE7162C3.58C37%chenault@mindspring.com>, which allegedly said:
To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of
all
of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly referred
to
as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very careful around the
Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then double check yourself
to
see how old Noah was at the flood in order not to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x?
Patriarchal number? Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing
with
her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even know
what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the outside
corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=
so
urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Cretin.
Proofs from geometry don't use rulers :-|
Have Fun
Martin
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
31 Mar 2005 05:36:21 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:18:14 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BE7162C3.58C37%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of all
of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly referred to
as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very careful around the
Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then double check yourself to
see how old Noah was at the flood in order not to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x?
Patriarchal number? Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing with
her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even know
what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the outside
corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=so
urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Yes, that is exactly my point. You misused the verb "plot" when you
meant "connect the dots with a straight edge".
Liz #658 BAAWA
You can define anything you want, any way you want. Defining it as such
is not the same as offering real world evidence to support your
assertion. -- Woden
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
31 Mar 2005 07:10:01 PM |
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To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of
all of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly
referred to as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very
careful around the Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then
double check yourself to see how old Noah was at the flood in order not
to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x? Patriarchal number?
Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing
with her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even
know what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the
outside corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=
so urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Liz wrote:
Yes, that is exactly my point. You misused the verb "plot" when you meant
"connect the dots with a straight edge".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
31 Mar 2005 08:36:26 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:10:01 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BE72099A.58E5D%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of
all of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly
referred to as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very
careful around the Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then
double check yourself to see how old Noah was at the flood in order not
to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x? Patriarchal number?
Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing
with her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even
know what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the
outside corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=
so urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Liz wrote:
Yes, that is exactly my point. You misused the verb "plot" when you meant
"connect the dots with a straight edge".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
No, it would not. Drawing lines in different directions in order to
connect your dots doesn't make a plot. Your diagram has nothing to do
with math yet you keep on using terms that have specific mathematical
meanings that you obviously do not understand.
You could have shown that your use of the word "plot" had some
validity if you could have answered the question about the axes, but
clearly, by your own admission, math is irrelevant to your diagram so
the question about the axes is both unanswerable and unanswered.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Faith is a method designed to keep a person willfully ignorant of the odds
by arbitrarily assigning certainty where certainty is not justified. - Denis Loubet
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
01 Apr 2005 05:36:40 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:36:26 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:10:01 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BE72099A.58E5D%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
[]
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
No, it would not. Drawing lines in different directions in order to
connect your dots doesn't make a plot. Your diagram has nothing to do
with math yet you keep on using terms that have specific mathematical
meanings that you obviously do not understand.
You could have shown that your use of the word "plot" had some
validity if you could have answered the question about the axes, but
clearly, by your own admission, math is irrelevant to your diagram so
the question about the axes is both unanswerable and unanswered.
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Faith is a method designed to keep a person willfully ignorant of the odds
by arbitrarily assigning certainty where certainty is not justified. - Denis Loubet
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
02 Apr 2005 03:40:05 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:36:26 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:10:01 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BE72099A.58E5D%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
[]
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
No, it would not. Drawing lines in different directions in order to
connect your dots doesn't make a plot. Your diagram has nothing to do
with math yet you keep on using terms that have specific mathematical
meanings that you obviously do not understand.
You could have shown that your use of the word "plot" had some
validity if you could have answered the question about the axes, but
clearly, by your own admission, math is irrelevant to your diagram so
the question about the axes is both unanswerable and unanswered.
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
05 Apr 2005 06:37:24 PM |
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On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
There're several bases (pron: base-eze)
....
have Fun
Martin
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AIM: Hypercube3141592
ICQ: 137333576
email: as given, or whatever you like @ tesseract.com.au
ph: http://www.whitepages.com.au/
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
05 Apr 2005 08:39:32 PM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> in news message
<0001HW.BE795E540250D861F04075B0@news.ozemail.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
There're several bases (pron: base-eze)
Along with multiple crises.
However, all your bases belong to me.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
05 Apr 2005 11:27:21 PM |
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On Apr 6, 2005, Liz sent message
<07f651hc21ugfd3fgq424u1icltfsoakvt@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> in news message
<0001HW.BE795E540250D861F04075B0@news.ozemail.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
There're several bases (pron: base-eze)
Along with multiple crises.
<rolls eyes> Yes.... had a few recently.
Yes, new ones, like I needed more :-|
Spent a few days self-admitted to a psyche ward, then hurt my
knee... on crutches for 2 weeks :-|
However, all your bases belong to me.
I expect no less, since Laundry stuff is alkaline (praise Lint) :-P
Have Fun
Martin
--
aa #1792 Almost always SMASHed
AIM: Hypercube3141592
ICQ: 137333576
email: as given, or whatever you like @ tesseract.com.au
ph: http://www.whitepages.com.au/
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
06 Apr 2005 10:05:57 AM |
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Martin Crisp wrote:
On Apr 6, 2005, Liz sent message
<07f651hc21ugfd3fgq424u1icltfsoakvt@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> in news message
<0001HW.BE795E540250D861F04075B0@news.ozemail.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly
said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in
news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=3Daxis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
There're several bases (pron: base-eze)
Along with multiple crises.
<rolls eyes> Yes.... had a few recently.
Yes, new ones, like I needed more :-|
You can borrow a couple of mine if you feel neglected.
Spent a few days self-admitted to a psyche ward, then hurt my
knee... on crutches for 2 weeks :-|
Seems to be that you could have hurt your knee without going to all the
trouble of self-admitting.
However, all your bases belong to me.
I expect no less, since Laundry stuff is alkaline (praise Lint) :-P
=20
Praise Lint=AE!
Liz #658
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
08 Apr 2005 07:35:50 AM |
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On Apr 7, 2005, Liz sent message
<1112799957.135901.121140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, which
allegedly said:
Martin Crisp wrote:
On Apr 6, 2005, Liz sent message
<07f651hc21ugfd3fgq424u1icltfsoakvt@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> in news message
<0001HW.BE795E540250D861F04075B0@news.ozemail.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly
said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in
news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
There're several bases (pron: base-eze)
Along with multiple crises.
<rolls eyes> Yes.... had a few recently.
Yes, new ones, like I needed more :-|
You can borrow a couple of mine if you feel neglected.
I can probably manage a partial share of one or two, if it would
help; but, at this remove, only a small share :-|
Spent a few days self-admitted to a psyche ward, then hurt my
knee... on crutches for 2 weeks :-|
Seems to be that you could have hurt your knee without going to all the
trouble of self-admitting.
ROFL
[beats ROFHowlingInPain ;-)]
However, all your bases belong to me.
I expect no less, since Laundry stuff is alkaline (praise Lint) :-P
Praise Lint®!
:-)
Have Fun
Martin
--
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AIM: Hypercube3141592
ICQ: 137333576
email: as given, or whatever you like @ tesseract.com.au
ph: http://www.whitepages.com.au/
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
06 Apr 2005 08:55:50 AM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
06 Apr 2005 09:23:39 AM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:55:50 -0500, RainLover wrote
(in article <6gq75154l1p8l6sqkp4cidjc89pld5fe20@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
James, Seattle
It was not Liz who was lurking, she has been here for much longer then I have
(and I have been here for close to 5 years).
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things, but I've never heard myself
think." - Duke32
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: delurking to ask a question |
06 Apr 2005 05:42:57 PM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:23:39 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> in news message
<0001HW.BE795B1B001ACE0EF02845B0@news.central.cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:55:50 -0500, RainLover wrote
(in article <6gq75154l1p8l6sqkp4cidjc89pld5fe20@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
One of your better ones?
James, Seattle
It was not Liz who was lurking, she has been here for much longer then I have
(and I have been here for close to 5 years).
I've never lurked in my life albeit I have loitered and even dawdled a
few times. And it wasn't even a flame. <flounce> I was simply
telling stoney that I was using the plural instead of the singular.
Oh well, that's usenet.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:42:57 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:23:39 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> in news message
<0001HW.BE795B1B001ACE0EF02845B0@news.central.cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:55:50 -0500, RainLover wrote
(in article <6gq75154l1p8l6sqkp4cidjc89pld5fe20@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
One of your better ones?
James, Seattle
It was not Liz who was lurking, she has been here for much longer then I have
(and I have been here for close to 5 years).
I've never lurked in my life albeit I have loitered and even dawdled a
few times. And it wasn't even a flame. <flounce> I was simply
telling stoney that I was using the plural instead of the singular.
Oh well, that's usenet.
My humble appolgies... What time shall my flogging commence?
James, Seattle, Washington, USA, Earth
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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07 Apr 2005 08:50:06 AM |
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:38:55 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> in news message
<3uda51pa3pp39gme3t3qmlikr6vt9dbu9o@4ax.com> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:42:57 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:23:39 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> in news message
<0001HW.BE795B1B001ACE0EF02845B0@news.central.cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:55:50 -0500, RainLover wrote
(in article <6gq75154l1p8l6sqkp4cidjc89pld5fe20@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
One of your better ones?
James, Seattle
It was not Liz who was lurking, she has been here for much longer then I have
(and I have been here for close to 5 years).
I've never lurked in my life albeit I have loitered and even dawdled a
few times. And it wasn't even a flame. <flounce> I was simply
telling stoney that I was using the plural instead of the singular.
Oh well, that's usenet.
My humble appolgies... What time shall my flogging commence?
No flogging for you. You are too eager. Say two Hail Lint®'s for
your penance and we'll forget the whole thing.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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07 Apr 2005 11:03:07 AM |
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:50:06 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:38:55 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> in news message
<3uda51pa3pp39gme3t3qmlikr6vt9dbu9o@4ax.com> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:42:57 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
[]
I've never lurked in my life albeit I have loitered and even dawdled a
few times. And it wasn't even a flame. <flounce> I was simply
telling stoney that I was using the plural instead of the singular.
Oh well, that's usenet.
My humble appolgies... What time shall my flogging commence?
No flogging for you. You are too eager.
RRRRRRROOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGG.
Say two Hail Lint®'s for
your penance and we'll forget the whole thing.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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07 Apr 2005 11:01:29 AM |
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:42:57 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:23:39 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> in news message
<0001HW.BE795B1B001ACE0EF02845B0@news.central.cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:55:50 -0500, RainLover wrote
(in article <6gq75154l1p8l6sqkp4cidjc89pld5fe20@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
good day.
One of your better ones?
James, Seattle
It was not Liz who was lurking, she has been here for much longer then I have
(and I have been here for close to 5 years).
I've never lurked in my life albeit I have loitered and even dawdled a
few times. And it wasn't even a flame. <flounce>
Oh No! She's flouncing!!!! (eyes dance)
I was simply
telling stoney that I was using the plural instead of the singular.
Oh well, that's usenet.
;) Yep.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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06 Apr 2005 08:16:19 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:37:24 +1000, Martin Crisp
<Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 2, 2005, Liz sent message
<kvps41ltrdqdjhveht4ac598rt9emuqo7a@4ax.com>, which allegedly said:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
[...]
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
missed the original post... piggybacking here..
You DELURKED in alt.atheism to be the grammar/spelling police?
Obviously you haven't been lurking very long. I for one suggest you
relurk.
Call her Mrs. *Plonk!*
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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02 Apr 2005 03:09:48 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:40:05 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:36:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <cmmr41del3te5eg8nhvu6medki7rspefs1@4ax.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:36:26 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:10:01 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BE72099A.58E5D%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
[]
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
No, it would not. Drawing lines in different directions in order to
connect your dots doesn't make a plot. Your diagram has nothing to do
with math yet you keep on using terms that have specific mathematical
meanings that you obviously do not understand.
You could have shown that your use of the word "plot" had some
validity if you could have answered the question about the axes, but
clearly, by your own admission, math is irrelevant to your diagram so
the question about the axes is both unanswerable and unanswered.
[cringing]
axis'........iirc.
One axis, two axes . . . (pronounced axeeze)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axis
They don't call me Mrs. Dictionary for nothing.
LOL! And Mrs. Dictionary wins again! ;)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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31 Mar 2005 07:49:03 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:10:01 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of
all of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly
referred to as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very
careful around the Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then
double check yourself to see how old Noah was at the flood in order not
to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x? Patriarchal number?
Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing
with her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even
know what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the
outside corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=
so urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Liz wrote:
Yes, that is exactly my point. You misused the verb "plot" when you meant
"connect the dots with a straight edge".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You over-simplified this I think. If this connecting of dots involved
straight lines in more than one direction then I think you would have to
admit it infers "plotting". Would it not?
No. That's closer to the child's excercise of 'connect the dots' to
reveal a picture.
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31 Mar 2005 11:34:20 AM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:18:14 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
To do God's Diagram® you first must plot out the times of the lives of all
of the individuals whose "years" are listed in what is lovingly referred to
as the "begats" throughout Genesis and Exodus. Be very careful around the
Flood of Noah because you must count forwards then double check yourself to
see how old Noah was at the flood in order not to make a mistake.
If it is a plot, then what exactly are the axes of the graph? I would
imagine that y=age at death but what would be x?
Patriarchal number? Number of children? Number of wives?
She told me once that it has nothing to do with math. She just likes using
(or misusing as the case may be) mathematical terms so that her "research"
seems to have some validity. She formerly asserted that her diagram
represents "the geometric progression proof of God". However, conversing with
her only slightly about math, it became apparent that she didn't even know
what a geometric progression was, and went on to write about the outside
corner of a square.
Following exchange between Martin Crisp and me about georgann's math
abilities:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c5c560ee3893899a?dmode=so
urce
Kate wrote:
The spirit is willing but the math is weak.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
It doesn't require math. Just the ability to count. Well, that and the
ability to draw a straight line with a ruler.
Garbage in. Garbage out.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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01 Apr 2005 05:15:48 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2005 08:02:03 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:01:28 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Christianity for one. Or did you forget the whole point of it is to suck in
every human being? Wow georgann, you must not pay much attention to your own
religion.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Evidently I don't see it as you do. Funny that! Perspective I mean.
Kate wrote:
Not funny at all. Pretty scarey that you don't understand your own religion.
Your bible talks about how God wants everyone to follow his rules and love
him. Jesus told you to go out and prosceltize your religion - even dump your
family to go do it - with the major goal being to get all people to join. How
can you possibly misunderstand that? What did you think he wanted you to do?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I think He wanted me to do exactly what He has me doing - the all
encompassing Diagram® of the Bible, Creation and Prophecy that will prove
once and for all (there's that all business) that Jesus Christ is not just
the one and only God but He is the one and only God incarnate.
Well, that made no sense at all. Is the Diagram® of the Bible,
Creation and Prophecy a dance or some kind of lifelong math problem?
Here ya go, Kate. It's courtesy of Mr. John Hattan.
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Ages_Flood.pdf
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Days0_4_092703.mov
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/DaysPreviewStill.jpg
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/DaysPreviewStill_thumb.jpg
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Geneology.eps
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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01 Apr 2005 07:44:06 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:melr41hu12teoq36jkpk1r9jkabg582uoq@4ax.com...
On 28 Mar 2005 08:02:03 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:01:28 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Christianity for one. Or did you forget the whole point of it is to
suck in
every human being? Wow georgann, you must not pay much attention to
your own
religion.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Evidently I don't see it as you do. Funny that! Perspective I mean.
Kate wrote:
Not funny at all. Pretty scarey that you don't understand your own
religion.
Your bible talks about how God wants everyone to follow his rules and
love
him. Jesus told you to go out and prosceltize your religion - even
dump your
family to go do it - with the major goal being to get all people to
join. How
can you possibly misunderstand that? What did you think he wanted you
to do?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I think He wanted me to do exactly what He has me doing - the all
encompassing Diagram® of the Bible, Creation and Prophecy that will
prove
once and for all (there's that all business) that Jesus Christ is not
just
the one and only God but He is the one and only God incarnate.
Same old, same old - the son god trying to replace the father god.
There's nothing new under the religious sun.
Well, that made no sense at all. Is the Diagram® of the Bible,
Creation and Prophecy a dance or some kind of lifelong math problem?
Here ya go, Kate. It's courtesy of Mr. John Hattan.
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Ages_Flood.pdf
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Days0_4_092703.mov
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/DaysPreviewStill.jpg
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/DaysPreviewStill_thumb.jpg
http://www.lexington-on-line.com/creation/Geneology.eps
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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29 Mar 2005 04:10:37 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2005 08:02:03 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:01:28 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Christianity for one. Or did you forget the whole point of it is to suck in
every human being? Wow georgann, you must not pay much attention to your own
religion.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Evidently I don't see it as you do. Funny that! Perspective I mean.
Kate wrote:
Not funny at all. Pretty scarey that you don't understand your own religion.
Your bible talks about how God wants everyone to follow his rules and love
him. Jesus told you to go out and prosceltize your religion - even dump your
family to go do it - with the major goal being to get all people to join. How
can you possibly misunderstand that? What did you think he wanted you to do?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I think He wanted me to do exactly what He has me doing - the all
encompassing Diagram® of the Bible, Creation and Prophecy that will prove
once and for all (there's that all business) that Jesus Christ is not just
the one and only God but He is the one and only God incarnate.
Well, that made no sense at all. Is the Diagram® of the Bible,
Creation and Prophecy a dance or some kind of lifelong math problem?
Manic droolings on paper.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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29 Mar 2005 03:57:59 PM |
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On 27 Mar 2005 21:12:04 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:53:29 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Usually because some one is trying to force their belief on you and have
your entire society controlled they their belief!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
An entire society?
Cite please.
Kate wrote:
Christianity for one. Or did you forget the whole point of it is to suck in
every human being? Wow georgann, you must not pay much attention to your own
religion.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Evidently I don't see it as you do. Funny that! Perspective I mean.
Not funny at all. Pretty scarey that you don't understand your own
religion. Your bible talks about how God wants everyone to follow his
rules and love him. Jesus told you to go out and prosceltize your
religion - even dump your family to go do it - with the major goal
being to get all people to join. How can you possibly misunderstand
that? What did you think he wanted you to do?
Be a lying, adulterous, inhuman, terminally ignorant, adulterous,
cowardly, hypocrite, of course.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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29 Mar 2005 03:56:56 PM |
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On 27 Mar 2005 16:24:14 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:51:06 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
why have an ongoing discussion about something you you don't believe in?
Claytonus Vs. Godzilla wrote:
Usually because some one is trying to force their belief on you and have your
entire society controlled they their belief!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
An entire society?
Cite please.
Christianity for one. Or did you forget the whole point of it is to
suck in every human being?
Wow georgann, you must not pay much attention to your own religion.
She doesn't. She unrepentantly and continuously violates the tenets
of her stated superstition.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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27 Mar 2005 01:10:52 PM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE6C328A.577EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
why have an ongoing discussion about something you you don't believe
in?
Claytonus Vs. Godzilla wrote:
Usually because some one is trying to force their belief on you and have
your
entire society controlled they their belief!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
An entire society?
Cite please.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7048029/
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27 Mar 2005 06:10:51 PM |
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"sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote in message
news:3aoeqtF6clf1fU1@individual.net...
georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE6C328A.577EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
why have an ongoing discussion about something you you don't believe
in?
Claytonus Vs. Godzilla wrote:
Usually because some one is trying to force their belief on you and
have
your
entire society controlled they their belief!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
An entire society?
Cite please.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7048029/
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Books_D/WhichLaw.html
http://www.beswick.info/ucissues/tolerance.htm
http://www.msainfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80
http://www.evangelicalalliance.org.au/election/aEightCoreValues.htm
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1506ch13.html
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