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"Freedom Fries" |
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08 May 2005 01:19:10 AM |
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Democrats Banned From Church |
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering hiring
a lawyer.
Pastor Chan Chandler greeted people at the door of tiny East Waynesville
Baptist Church on Saturday evening as the church choir practiced and even
welcomed them to attend services Sunday morning - if there's room inside.
But he was not prepared to talk about his mixing of religion and politics.
"On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this
time," Chandler told The Associated Press. "We will have a statement later."
Members of the congregation said Chandler told them during last year's
presidential campaign that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee
John Kerry needed to leave the church.
Longtime member Selma Morris, who was treasurer at the church, said
Chandler's sermons remained political after Bush won re-election. This past
week, his comments turned to politics again at a church gathering that ended
with nine members voted out.
Morris said Saturday that some of the ousted members planned to meet with an
attorney on Monday to discuss their options. "We're hoping he (the attorney)
will make him leave so that the church members can come back," she said.
"This is very disturbing," said Pastor Robert Prince III, who leads the
congregation at the nearby First Baptist Church. "I've been a pastor for
more than 25 years, and I have never seen church members voted out for
something like this."
Those who are still members did not know if the church would be open for
services Sunday, or if Chandler would be in the pulpit to preach.
The 100-member East Waynesville Baptist Church sits on a bluff a short
distance from downtown Waynesville, a mountain town about 125 miles
northwest of Charlotte. A white steeple and stain glass windows adorn the
simple brick structure, built in 1965, with a view of the mountains from the
front steps.
Across the street sits the church's parsonage, a small brick ranch home with
children's toys scattered in the front lawn. A small wooden sign out front
reads simply "The Chandlers." No one answered the phone there on Saturday.
In the days since the nine members were ousted, many more members have
reportedly left the church in protest.
"He went on and on about how he's going to bring politics up, and if we
didn't agree with him, we should leave," Isaac Sutton told The News and
Observer of Raleigh. "I think I deserve the right to vote for who I want
to."
Sutton, a deacon who worshipped at East Waynesville Baptist Church for the
past 12 years, said he and his wife were among the nine voted out.
"I've been going to this church for 25 years and I've never had a problem,"
Sutton's wife, Lorene, told The Associated Press on Friday. "He's young and
he thinks he knows everything."
Other former members of the church declined to speak with a reporter
Saturday, citing the advice of their attorney. But the furor over politics
at the church was the talk of Waynesville, a community of about 9,200
residents.
"It's just an outrage for something like this to happen in America," said
Heidi Jenkins, 52, as she held a garage sale at her home down the street
from the church.
Prince said he noticed during the presidential campaign that more pastors
made endorsements - although not from the pulpit - than in past years.
"It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific
candidates," he said. "I think that line is being crossed."
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 02:25:14 AM |
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"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote in message
news:427daec9_2@x-privat.org...
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering
hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world."
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud
publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions about
how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the most
part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures - only in
the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards politicizing the
church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost
world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the
gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased downhill
slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying for a
Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King,
they act like they want to diefy Bush.
It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the
church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels marking
those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who weep for
the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?
Terrell
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| User: "Arizona Bushwhacker" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 02:49:48 AM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks
can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the
town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering
hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world."
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud
publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions about
how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the most
part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures - only
in
the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards politicizing the
church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost
world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the
gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased
downhill
slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying for a
Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King,
they act like they want to diefy Bush.
It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the
church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels marking
those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who weep for
the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?
Terrell
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
No matter how much they pretend to be Christians!
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| User: "John Henry" |
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08 May 2005 03:20:14 AM |
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
Neither are most Christians.
--
John Henry
Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues
It is better to be hated for being who you are,
than to be loved for being who you are not.
NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET
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| User: "Arizona Bushwhacker" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 03:47:33 AM |
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"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgent.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
Neither are most Christians.
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the
ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)
come into their Church (No matter how they
are dressed) and pray to Jesus!
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate
anyone besides other republicans, praying for every
non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!
--
John Henry
Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues
It is better to be hated for being who you are,
than to be loved for being who you are not.
NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET
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| User: "Pope Long Dong II" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 02:16:20 PM |
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On Sun, 8 May 2005 01:47:33 -0700, "Arizona Bushwhacker"
<azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote:
"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgent.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
Neither are most Christians.
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the
ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)
come into their Church (No matter how they
are dressed) and pray to Jesus!
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate
anyone besides other republicans, praying for every
non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!
Calm down Mary...
Mighty nice of YOU to sit in judgement of others.. HYPOCRITE.
Your LIEberal steak is showing... putz.
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| User: "tiki" |
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08 May 2005 04:24:51 AM |
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snarl snarl....LOL
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in message
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"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgent.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
Neither are most Christians.
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the
ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)
come into their Church (No matter how they
are dressed) and pray to Jesus!
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate
anyone besides other republicans, praying for every
non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!
--
John Henry
Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues
It is better to be hated for being who you are,
than to be loved for being who you are not.
NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET
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| User: "Arizona Bushwhacker" |
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08 May 2005 04:52:28 AM |
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"tiki" <tiki@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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snarl snarl....LOL
But the absolute truth!!!
LOL!!!
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in message
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"John Henry" <jhd@NOSPAMinsurgent.orgNOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote in news:sdjfe.3014
$eU.325@fed1read07:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
Neither are most Christians.
The ONLY Christians, who are Christians, are the
ones who let Everyone (no matter who they are)
come into their Church (No matter how they
are dressed) and pray to Jesus!
All others (like the fucking republicans who hate
anyone besides other republicans, praying for every
non-republican to die and go to hell) can go to hell!!!
--
John Henry
Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Cracker Jack Blues
It is better to be hated for being who you are,
than to be loved for being who you are not.
NEW site! www.lowgenius.NET
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| User: "Pope Long Dong II" |
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08 May 2005 02:12:11 PM |
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On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:49:48 -0700, "Arizona Bushwhacker"
<azbushkicker@cox.net> wrote:
You need to remember that no republican in a Christian!
No matter how much they pretend to be Christians!
Could you translate that to human speak, that is, if your two brain
cells aren't presently occupied.
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| User: "Roger" |
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08 May 2005 08:02:13 AM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote in
message news:427daec9_2@x-privat.org...
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks
can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the
town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering
hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world."
Yeah, that's a part of the bible they choose not to read. There are other,
better, parts that are much more applicable to proving that what he's doing
is correct.
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud
publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions about
how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the most
part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures - only
in the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards politicizing the
church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost
world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the
gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased
downhill slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying
for a Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the
King, they act like they want to diefy Bush.
It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the
church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels marking
those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who weep for
the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?
Terrell
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| User: "H Dickmann" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 08:25:28 AM |
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote in
message news:427daec9_2@x-privat.org...
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose tax
exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard jesus freaks
can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press
Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church
members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the
town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering
hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world."
Yeah, that's a part of the bible they choose not to read. There are other,
better, parts that are much more applicable to proving that what he's
doing is correct.
They don't follow the Bible, they follow the teachings of Calvin.
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention outloud
publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief mentions
about how we should go and vote our conscience or some such, but for the
most part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or expositions of scriptures -
only in the last 20-30 years have I noticed this trend towards
politicizing the church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a lost
world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP (mostly) for the
gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has been on a greased
downhill slide, and instead of praying for revival, the church is praying
for a Republican victory at the polls. Instead of looking for Christ the
King, they act like they want to diefy Bush.
It is ironic that at the same time the government has been pushing the
church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels
marking those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those who
weep for the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll find anyone?
Terrell
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| User: "Sid9" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 09:36:00 AM |
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Roger wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:u9jfe.3321$Yg4.625@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote in
message news:427daec9_2@x-privat.org...
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically
lose tax exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard
jesus freaks can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated
Press Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine
church members who refused to support President Bush was the
talk of the town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants
considering hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said,
"My kingdom is not of this world."
Yeah, that's a part of the bible they choose not to read. There are
other, better, parts that are much more applicable to proving that
what he's doing is correct.
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention
outloud publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief
mentions about how we should go and vote our conscience or some
such, but for the most part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or
expositions of scriptures - only in the last 20-30 years have I
noticed this trend towards politicizing the church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a
lost world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP
(mostly) for the gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has
been on a greased downhill slide, and instead of praying for
revival, the church is praying for a Republican victory at the
polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King, they act like they
want to diefy Bush. It is ironic that at the same time the government has
been pushing
the church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels
marking those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those
who weep for the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll
find anyone? Terrell
Looks like this "church" is really a political
club and not a religious organization.
They should be required to give up the
"percs' that religious organizations
receive from the government.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
08 May 2005 05:46:14 PM |
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Freedom Fries" <FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote in
message news:427daec9_2@x-privat.org...
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically
lose tax exempt status. Everytime it seems the right wing retard
jesus freaks can't
sink any lower they reach a new low.
Dems Voted Out of Church Weigh Options By PAUL NOWELL, Associated
Press Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine
church members who refused to support President Bush was the
talk of the town
Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants
considering hiring
a lawyer.
This preacher, and all Christians need to remember that Jesus said,
"My kingdom is not of this world."
Yeah, that's a part of the bible they choose not to read. There are
other, better, parts that are much more applicable to proving that
what he's doing is correct.
In my child hood, I can't remember any preacher who would mention
outloud publicly or privately who they supported. I remember brief
mentions about how we should go and vote our conscience or some
such, but for the most part, sermons were on sin, salvation, or
expositions of scriptures - only in the last 20-30 years have I
noticed this trend towards politicizing the church.
It appears (at least) that the church has given up on evangelizing a
lost world and has instead substituted the gospel of the GOP
(mostly) for the gospel of Christ. The morality of our nation has
been on a greased downhill slide, and instead of praying for
revival, the church is praying for a Republican victory at the
polls. Instead of looking for Christ the King, they act like they
want to diefy Bush. It is ironic that at the same time the government
has been pushing
the church out, the church has beeen inviting the government in.
It sort of reminds me of when Ezekiel was given a vision of angels
marking those who wept for Zion, if they are out there marking those
who weep for the state of the modern church, I wonder if they'll
find anyone? Terrell
Looks like this "church" is really a political
club and not a religious organization.
They should be required to give up the
"percs' that religious organizations
receive from the government.
Yeah.
Then the churches should have to give up the perks too.
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| User: "Chad Bryant" |
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08 May 2005 01:47:27 AM |
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"Freedom Fries" writes:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose
tax exempt status.
Political activities in church helped the Christian Coalition lose their
tax-exempt status.
This "pastor" should be fired, or the church should have its status tax-
exempt status revoked.
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Chad Bryant
Annoying The Ignorant Online Since 1995
http://www.chadbryant.cjb.net/
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| User: "Freedom Fries" |
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08 May 2005 02:04:52 AM |
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"Chad Bryant" <webmaster@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3Cife.72$R51.15696@news.uswest.net...
"Freedom Fries" writes:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose
tax exempt status.
Political activities in church helped the Christian Coalition lose their
tax-exempt status.
This "pastor" should be fired, or the church should have its status tax-
exempt status revoked.
All churches should lose tax exempt status and the money should be used to
save social security.
--
Chad Bryant
Annoying The Ignorant Online Since 1995
http://www.chadbryant.cjb.net/
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| User: "Pope Long Dong II" |
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08 May 2005 02:10:28 PM |
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On Sun, 8 May 2005 03:04:52 -0400, "Freedom Fries"
<FrenchFriesAren'tFrench@dumbamericans.com> wrote:
"Chad Bryant" <webmaster@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3Cife.72$R51.15696@news.uswest.net...
"Freedom Fries" writes:
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose
tax exempt status.
Political activities in church helped the Christian Coalition lose their
tax-exempt status.
This "pastor" should be fired, or the church should have its status tax-
exempt status revoked.
All churches should lose tax exempt status and the money should be used to
save social security.
SS shouldn't be used for social programs, the military, schools or
anything else. If you didn't pay, you shouldn't qualify to get paid.
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| User: "the Bede" |
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08 May 2005 10:35:58 AM |
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"It used to be that pastors would speak about the issues and not specific
candidates," he said. "I think that line is being crossed."
that's the rule, right there. Brother Bushite has broken the law.
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| User: "trijcomm" |
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08 May 2005 11:43:01 PM |
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Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should automatically lose
tax
exempt status.
And what do you say about the Baptist churches that have become a
must-visit campaign stop for Democratic candidates every election
period? Now THAT is an outrage -- they have been doing that garbage for
YEARS!!!
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 04:31:40 PM |
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"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Typical right wing fanatic this pastor. He should
automatically lose tax exempt status.
And what do you say about the Baptist churches that
have become a must-visit campaign stop for
Democratic candidates every election period?
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
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| User: "trijcomm" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 05:56:08 PM |
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Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend? I love it how so many people criticize
others how they spend their money and act like church experts when they
haven't darkened the door of a place of worship in years.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 06:11:35 PM |
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"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
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| User: "trijcomm" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 08:01:57 PM |
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JTEM May 9, 7:11 pm show options
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From: "JTEM" <gymra...@hotmail.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 19:11:35 -0400
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"trijcomm" <trijc...@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would be all kinds
of African American church leaders who would have been rounded up a
long time ago for similar violations. And the fact that you didn't
answer the question has been duly noted.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
10 May 2005 03:04:35 PM |
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"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would be
all kinds of African American church leaders who would
have been rounded up a long time ago for similar violations.
So name the churches. Name the African American church
leaders. Describe for us their crimes, and please don't
skimp on the details.
Back up your claim.
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| User: "trijcomm" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 08:02:02 PM |
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JTEM May 9, 7:11 pm show options
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alt.religion.christian.baptist
From: "JTEM" <gymra...@hotmail.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 19:11:35 -0400
Local: Mon,May 9 2005 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Democrats Banned From Church
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"trijcomm" <trijc...@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would be all kinds
of African American church leaders who would have been rounded up a
long time ago for similar violations. And the fact that you didn't
answer the question has been duly noted.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 10:55:58 PM |
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"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
If the "law" you refer to was so clear, then there would
be all kinds of African American church leaders who
would have been rounded up a long time ago for
similar violations.
So name them. Name the churches, name the church leaders
and name the violations.
Because were most definitely *Not* speaking of any
hypothetical here. We were given a clear, undeniable
example of a violation of the law on the part of lunatic
right-wingers.
So put up or shut up.
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| User: "Chad Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 06:12:31 PM |
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"JTEM" wrote:
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
Don't mind the eternally clueless Scott/Janis Johnson - he's been reeling
ever since he was exposed as a multi-sock kook who once pretended to be
female and posted to the sex.fetish groups.
--
Chad Bryant
Annoying The Ignorant Online Since 1995
"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has
never learned to walk forward." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
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| User: "Archived Chad" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 06:23:52 PM |
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Chad Bryant <webmaster@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in
news:1115680351.1e8f9b9cf64e51f3403ff5bc581d41cc@teranews:
"JTEM" wrote:
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
Don't mind the eternally clueless Scott/Janis Johnson - he's been
reeling ever since he was exposed as a multi-sock kook who once
pretended to be female and posted to the sex.fetish groups.
So claims ***** Witham the fattard that sends people pics of himelf
masturbating.
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| User: "Rightard Whitey" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 10:13:26 PM |
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Chad Bryant wrote:
"JTEM" wrote:
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
Don't mind the eternally clueless Scott/Janis Johnson - he's been reeling
ever since he was exposed as a multi-sock kook who once pretended to be
female and posted to the sex.fetish groups.
The church can lose its non-profit status by involving itself in
politics. This happened to Pat Robertson a while back. You can talk
about ethics and moral values, but you can't tell people to vote a
certain way.
--
Educating rightards every day.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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09 May 2005 10:58:10 PM |
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"Rightard Whitey" <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
The church can lose its non-profit status by involving
itself in politics. This happened to Pat Robertson a
while back. You can talk about ethics and moral
values, but you can't tell people to vote a certain way.
They can't even tell you to not vote a certain way.
In other words, saying "Don't vote for Kerry" is just
as illegal as "Be sure to vote for Bush."
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| User: "Pope Long Dong II" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 06:44:51 PM |
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On Mon, 9 May 2005 19:11:35 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"trijcomm" <trijcomm@yahoo.com> wrote
Nothing. But if those churches require members to vote
for a certain candidate or party they have no business
calling themselves a church.
And what church do you attend?
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
Then arrest Jesse, Bill and Kerry..
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Democrats Banned From Church |
09 May 2005 07:59:56 PM |
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"Pope Long Dong II" <Papacy@vatican.it> wrote
I'm not sure why you mistakenly believe that to be
relevant. The law is quite clear on the matter, and
no church may endorse a vote for or against any
candidate for public office. Period.
Then arrest Jesse, Bill and Kerry..
Why?
Go on. And please be sure to *Lavish* us with
details. I'd hate to be expected to take you at your
word, you being an idiot & all.
So please spell out of us EXACTLY what illegal
activity you're claiming that these men have engaged
in.
Thanks in advance... for nothing.
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