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User: "J Young"
Date: 12 Nov 2005 03:45:40 AM
Object: Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote
As I've always maintained, it's only the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) that
cries for America's sworn enemies. The mainstream of the Democratic party
agrees that these vermin deserve nothing and should be grateful for whatever
we do give them. Why do they care anyway? They're on a hunger strike so this
whole thing should be moot by Thanksgiving.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/national/nationalspecial3/12detain.html
November 12, 2005
Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote
WASHINGTON, Nov. 11 - Democrats who had voted previously to prohibit abusive
treatment of detainees in American custody provided the margin of victory on
Thursday for a Republican-backed measure that would deny prisoners at
Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, the right to challenge their detention in federal
courts.
Four of the five Democrats who supported the provision to strip detainees at
Guantánamo of the legal tool the Supreme Court gave them to appeal their
incarcerations said on Friday that they drew the line at allowing the
prisoners unfettered access to United States courts to challenge the
underlying rationale for their detention. The Senate approved the measure,
an amendment to a military budget bill, 49 to 42.
"A foreign national who is captured and determined to be an enemy combatant
in the world war on terrorism has no more right to a habeas corpus appeal to
our courts than did a captured soldier of the Axis powers during World War
II," Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, said in a
statement.
.

User: "Joseph Welch"

Title: Re: Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote 12 Nov 2005 04:51:30 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:zpKdnXO0PY9t-OjenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...

As I've always maintained, it's only the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) that
cries for America's sworn enemies.

If you have some evidence that everyone being detained at Guantanamo is an
enemy of the U.S. - then present it.
Justice is an American value.
Why do you hate American values you America-hating traitor?
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
.

User: "Harry Hope"

Title: PROOF THAT LIBERALS HATE ALL AMERICANS! ==> Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote 12 Nov 2005 07:53:33 AM
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:45:40 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:

As I've always maintained, it's only the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) that
cries for America's sworn enemies. The mainstream of the Democratic party
agrees that these vermin deserve nothing and should be grateful for whatever
we do give them. Why do they care anyway? They're on a hunger strike so this
whole thing should be moot by Thanksgiving.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/national/nationalspecial3/12detain.html


November 12, 2005
Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote

WASHINGTON, Nov. 11 - Democrats who had voted previously to prohibit abusive
treatment of detainees in American custody provided the margin of victory on
Thursday for a Republican-backed measure that would deny prisoners at
Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, the right to challenge their detention in federal
courts.

Four of the five Democrats who supported the provision to strip detainees at
Guantánamo of the legal tool the Supreme Court gave them to appeal their
incarcerations said on Friday that they drew the line at allowing the
prisoners unfettered access to United States courts to challenge the
underlying rationale for their detention. The Senate approved the measure,
an amendment to a military budget bill, 49 to 42.

"A foreign national who is captured and determined to be an enemy combatant
in the world war on terrorism has no more right to a habeas corpus appeal to
our courts than did a captured soldier of the Axis powers during World War
II," Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, said in a
statement.

.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Democrats Provided Edge on Detainee Vote 12 Nov 2005 01:57:14 PM
What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> posting the following on Fri, 11 Nov 2005
22:45:40 -0500 iin alt.atheism?

As I've always maintained, it's only the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) that
cries for America's sworn enemies. The mainstream of the Democratic party
agrees that these vermin deserve nothing and should be grateful for whatever
we do give them. Why do they care anyway? They're on a hunger strike so this
whole thing should be moot by Thanksgiving.

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
defense.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
That's from the Constitution, the document that defines the United
States. If we ignore that, the US is over.
We are also signatories to several treaties that demand humane
treatment of prisoners taken in combat. Under the Constitution, those
treaties have the force of law equal to the Constitution.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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