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Religions > Atheism |
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"LP" |
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02 Sep 2005 06:21:15 PM |
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Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
New Orleans
Maybe New Orleans should be nicknamed The Big Un -Easy, due to a high
violent crime rate and a high unemployment rate. There's also a
significant number of suicides and divorces.
http://www.bestplaces.net/stress/stress_study1.asp
New Orleans murder rate on the rise again
Homicide rate nowhere near ’94 peak but still 10 times national
average
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8999837/
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/neworleans22e_20050822.htm
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| User: "Paul Erickson" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
08 Sep 2005 02:51:48 PM |
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On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
10 Sep 2005 10:56:26 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:51:48 -0500, Paul Erickson
<paul.erickson@softhome.net> wrote:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
To me, yes.
Slobbering Skeleton
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
10 Sep 2005 10:59:59 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:51:48 -0500, Paul Erickson
<paul.erickson@softhome.net> wrote:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like
it makes much difference.
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
To me, yes.
Sadly, it seems pretty normal. Things are way more important to most people
than other humans.
Of course it's always *Them* and not a family member or the person they are
talking to.
In the 60's the liberals wanted to blow up buildings and the conservatives
wanted to blow up people.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
13 Sep 2005 10:05:05 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:59:59 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
stoney wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:51:48 -0500, Paul Erickson
<paul.erickson@softhome.net> wrote:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like
it makes much difference.
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
To me, yes.
Sadly, it seems pretty normal.
I know. :\
Things are way more important to most people than other humans.
Of course it's always *Them* and not a family member or the person they are
talking to.
(cough) *priorities*
In the 60's the liberals wanted to blow up buildings and the conservatives
wanted to blow up people.
I don't remember much from that time frame. Destroyed memory tracks.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
23 Sep 2005 04:15:59 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:51:48 -0500, Paul Erickson
<paul.erickson@softhome.net> wrote:
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
Unsupported, especially considering the store owners
who stayed behind to protect their stores because they
didn't have enough insurance or didn't think their
insurance would cover the loss. Regardless, that
wouldn't condone the thefts - it would merely
indicate that the thieves are unlikely to be
prosecuted.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
24 Sep 2005 07:25:25 PM |
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On 23 Sep 2005 14:15:59 -0700, wrote:
stoney wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:51:48 -0500, Paul Erickson
<paul.erickson@softhome.net> wrote:
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
Unsupported, especially considering the store owners
who stayed behind to protect their stores because they
didn't have enough insurance or didn't think their
insurance would cover the loss.
I was thinking Walfart and other chain stores when I wrote that.
Regardless, that
wouldn't condone the thefts - it would merely
indicate that the thieves are unlikely to be
prosecuted.
I didn't say anything about condoning anything.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
26 Sep 2005 08:06:15 AM |
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stoney wrote:
On 23 Sep 2005 14:15:59 -0700, wrote:
stoney wrote:
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
Unsupported, especially considering the store owners
who stayed behind to protect their stores because they
didn't have enough insurance or didn't think their
insurance would cover the loss.
I was thinking Walfart and other chain stores when I wrote that.
I don't see the size of the store making *that* much difference.
Regardless, that
wouldn't condone the thefts - it would merely
indicate that the thieves are unlikely to be
prosecuted.
I didn't say anything about condoning anything.
My apologies - I misread the thought behind your "all
those stores and the contents have already been written
off".
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
26 Sep 2005 11:01:13 AM |
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On 26 Sep 2005 06:06:15 -0700, wrote:
stoney wrote:
On 23 Sep 2005 14:15:59 -0700, wrote:
stoney wrote:
All those stores and the contents have already been written off.
Unsupported, especially considering the store owners
who stayed behind to protect their stores because they
didn't have enough insurance or didn't think their
insurance would cover the loss.
I was thinking Walfart and other chain stores when I wrote that.
I don't see the size of the store making *that* much difference.
I do. Its a 'tick' on the Bentonville, Arkansas balance sheet.
Regardless, that
wouldn't condone the thefts - it would merely
indicate that the thieves are unlikely to be
prosecuted.
I didn't say anything about condoning anything.
My apologies - I misread the thought behind your "all
those stores and the contents have already been written
off".
Apology accepted. No worries though as misunderstanding bits us all
from time to time.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
08 Sep 2005 04:36:33 PM |
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on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother... where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets, small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
10 Sep 2005 10:58:08 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother...
Pure unmitigated *****.
where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets, small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
19 Sep 2005 07:29:02 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:58:08 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother...
Pure unmitigated *****.
where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets, small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
Books aren't perceived as valuable to those who shun responsibility
and rely on others (i.e. government) to do their thinking, planning
and providing sustenance.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
19 Sep 2005 09:50:49 PM |
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"LP" <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2flui1dile4fqo8sm2khh4akj65k5j24o5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:58:08 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about
the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother...
Pure unmitigated *****.
where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets,
small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
Aside from the knowledge and wisdom many of those valueless
books contain, I guess I can just toss out my few signed first
editions right now. Of course, real looters wouldn't think of it
that way.
Books aren't perceived as valuable to those who shun responsibility
and rely on others (i.e. government) to do their thinking, planning
and providing sustenance.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
21 Sep 2005 03:14:05 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:50:49 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"LP" <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2flui1dile4fqo8sm2khh4akj65k5j24o5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:58:08 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
[]
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
Aside from the knowledge and wisdom many of those valueless
books contain, I guess I can just toss out my few signed first
editions right now. Of course, real looters wouldn't think of it
that way.
All looters are real looters. Now, how educated the looter is is
something else.
That brought to mind the art thief's immigrant mother who destroyed
two billion dollars worth of stolen masterpieces down her garbage
disposal.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
21 Sep 2005 03:04:35 PM |
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On 19 Sep 2005 19:29:02 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:58:08 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother...
Pure unmitigated *****.
where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets, small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
Books aren't perceived as valuable to those who shun responsibility
and rely on others (i.e. government) to do their thinking, planning
and providing sustenance.
Oh, *****, drooler.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Despite disaster, crime rate still high in New Orleans |
23 Sep 2005 03:58:03 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:04:35 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 19 Sep 2005 19:29:02 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:58:08 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:36:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 08 Sep 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Paul Erickson
(paul.erickson@softhome.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On 2 Sep 2005 18:21:15 -0500, LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
WIth a city that has a crime rate at nearly ten time the national
average, why is anyone surprised that looting is occurring in New
Orleans?
Did anyone expect that wind, rain and flooding would somehow cause
criminals to change their ways?
Why is anybody particularly bothered by _looting? I personally don't
care what some people feel like taking from stores -- it's not like it
makes much difference.
What bothers (or bothered) me is the violence. Doesn't it seem weird
to anyone that people talk more about looting than about shooting?
Slobbering Skeleton
That reminds me of the last set of riots in Los Angeles, the day those
officers were acquitted of beating Rodney King. Everybody talks about the
'hood and unity in the 'hood, black spirit, we gotta stick together, yeah
brother...
Pure unmitigated *****.
where does looting fit into this? You see an angry mob in
unison, throwing bottles and rocks at police cars, then the camera pans
out to show people running down the street hauling stereos, TV sets, small
appliances...
And they never loot book stores, do they?
I don't recall ever seeing one looted. Books aren't valuable.
Books aren't perceived as valuable to those who shun responsibility
and rely on others (i.e. government) to do their thinking, planning
and providing sustenance.
Oh, *****, drooler.
Even though it apparently make you feel uncomfortable, you don't deny
the truth of that statement do you?
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