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Detachment essential
The Hindu
A bonded soul evolves spiritually over several births.
Though there are innumerable living beings it is only man
who can consciously strive for liberation from rebirths
as he is endowed with free will. Other beings can only
work out the Karm that resulted in that birth. It becomes
apparent then that human birth is rare to attain and
hence must not be frittered away in worldly pursuits.
When an individual pursues the spiritual path he should
guard against the pitfalls, which drag him back to the
world of sensory pleasures because it is difficult to
overcome the latent tendencies (Vaasans) acquired in
previous births.
In his discourse on the Vishnu Purana, Shri P. R.
Vaidyanath Sastrigal said Bharat's life highlighted how
even a very evolved individual could suffer setbacks in
his spiritual progress due to the pull of Vasans. Bharata
was a king of repute and he was equally adept in
spiritual attainments, so much so, that the Puranas refer
to him as a sage. He retired to Salagrama to engage in
intense penance and spent all his time in devotion to the
Lord. He, who had renounced his kingdom and family with
the objective of attaining liberation, developed
attachment to the young one of a deer, which he rescued
when its mother died giving birth to it. It was pity,
which motivated him to care for the helpless just-born
deer in his hermitage, as he did not want it to fall prey
to the wild animals. But in course of time his concern
turned into deep attachment for the animal as its well-
being became his paramount preoccupation and he neglected
his spiritual practices. He took immense delight in its
frolics and became despondent when it went missing from
the hermitage imagining that it had come to harm. From
the spiritual point of view it is obvious that the deer
was an impediment to his liberation as he had evolved
very well spiritually.
The Lord assures in the Bhagavad Gita that no effort made
for the sake of spiritual evolution goes in vain. The
merit of the spiritual practices ensures that the
individual is able to progress in the ensuing births. As
Bharata breathed his last thinking about his protégé he
was reborn as a deer and by virtue of his merit
remembered his previous birth. After working out his Karm
as a deer, in his next life he was born as the great sage
Jadabharat.
More at:
http://www.hindu.com
TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM
1. Mahatma Gandhi:
"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.
"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."
2. Henry David Thoreau:
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.
"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."
3. Arthur Schopenhauer:
"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."
The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.
5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:
"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."
6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:
"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.
"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."
8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:
"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".
9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:
"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."
10. Shri Aurobindo:
"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."
11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:
"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."
12. Joseph Campbell:
"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.
"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."
13. Sir Monier-Williams:
The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.
14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."
15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:
"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org
The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
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User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 07:21:32 PM
In article <1114548355.038279.126980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"Trollbuster" <trollbuster123@yahoo.com> posted:

If any new visitor to this forum is confused as to why this topic has
been posted in a forum for screewriting . . .

Then consider this: there is no subject about which a
screenplay can't be written, a movie not made. In fact
millions upon millions of people derive their knowledge
of the world from TV and films -- and movies must portray
the facts as accurately as possible. Misinformation about
Hindu principles has been posted in these newsgroups; it
must be corrected.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

Detachment essential

The Hindu

A bonded soul evolves spiritually over several births.
Though there are innumerable living beings it is only man
who can consciously strive for liberation from rebirths
as he is endowed with free will. Other beings can only
work out the Karm that resulted in that birth. It becomes
apparent then that human birth is rare to attain and
hence must not be frittered away in worldly pursuits.
When an individual pursues the spiritual path he should
guard against the pitfalls, which drag him back to the
world of sensory pleasures because it is difficult to
overcome the latent tendencies (Vaasans) acquired in
previous births.

In his discourse on the Vishnu Purana, Shri P. R.
Vaidyanath Sastrigal said Bharat's life highlighted how
even a very evolved individual could suffer setbacks in
his spiritual progress due to the pull of Vasans. Bharata
was a king of repute and he was equally adept in
spiritual attainments, so much so, that the Puranas refer
to him as a sage. He retired to Salagrama to engage in
intense penance and spent all his time in devotion to the
Lord. He, who had renounced his kingdom and family with
the objective of attaining liberation, developed
attachment to the young one of a deer, which he rescued
when its mother died giving birth to it. It was pity,
which motivated him to care for the helpless just-born
deer in his hermitage, as he did not want it to fall prey
to the wild animals. But in course of time his concern
turned into deep attachment for the animal as its well-
being became his paramount preoccupation and he neglected
his spiritual practices. He took immense delight in its
frolics and became despondent when it went missing from
the hermitage imagining that it had come to harm. From
the spiritual point of view it is obvious that the deer
was an impediment to his liberation as he had evolved
very well spiritually.

The Lord assures in the Bhagavad Gita that no effort made
for the sake of spiritual evolution goes in vain. The
merit of the spiritual practices ensures that the
individual is able to progress in the ensuing births. As
Bharata breathed his last thinking about his protégé he
was reborn as a deer and by virtue of his merit
remembered his previous birth. After working out his Karm
as a deer, in his next life he was born as the great sage
Jadabharat.

More at:
http://www.hindu.com

TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM

1. Mahatma Gandhi:

"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.

"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."


2. Henry David Thoreau:

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.

"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."


3. Arthur Schopenhauer:

"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."


4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."

The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.


5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:

"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."


6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:

"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."


7. Mark Twain:

"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.

"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."


8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:

"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".


9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:

"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."


10. Shri Aurobindo:

"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."


11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:

"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."


12. Joseph Campbell:

"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.

"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."


13. Sir Monier-Williams:

The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.


14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."


15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:

"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org

The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

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User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 07:23:49 PM
In article <1114548407.777222.180370@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Trollbuster" <trollbuster123@yahoo.com> posted:

If any new visitor to this forum is confused as to why this topic has
been posted in a forum for screewriting . . .

Then consider this: there is no subject about which a
screenplay can't be written, a movie not made. In fact
millions upon millions of people derive their knowledge
of the world from TV and films -- and movies must portray
the facts as accurately as possible. Misinformation about
Hindu principles has been posted in these newsgroups; it
must be corrected.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Dr. Jai Maharaj Posted:


Detachment essential

The Hindu

A bonded soul evolves spiritually over several births.
Though there are innumerable living beings it is only man
who can consciously strive for liberation from rebirths
as he is endowed with free will. Other beings can only
work out the Karm that resulted in that birth. It becomes
apparent then that human birth is rare to attain and
hence must not be frittered away in worldly pursuits.
When an individual pursues the spiritual path he should
guard against the pitfalls, which drag him back to the
world of sensory pleasures because it is difficult to
overcome the latent tendencies (Vaasans) acquired in
previous births.

In his discourse on the Vishnu Purana, Shri P. R.
Vaidyanath Sastrigal said Bharat's life highlighted how
even a very evolved individual could suffer setbacks in
his spiritual progress due to the pull of Vasans. Bharata
was a king of repute and he was equally adept in
spiritual attainments, so much so, that the Puranas refer
to him as a sage. He retired to Salagrama to engage in
intense penance and spent all his time in devotion to the
Lord. He, who had renounced his kingdom and family with
the objective of attaining liberation, developed
attachment to the young one of a deer, which he rescued
when its mother died giving birth to it. It was pity,
which motivated him to care for the helpless just-born
deer in his hermitage, as he did not want it to fall prey
to the wild animals. But in course of time his concern
turned into deep attachment for the animal as its well-
being became his paramount preoccupation and he neglected
his spiritual practices. He took immense delight in its
frolics and became despondent when it went missing from
the hermitage imagining that it had come to harm. From
the spiritual point of view it is obvious that the deer
was an impediment to his liberation as he had evolved
very well spiritually.

The Lord assures in the Bhagavad Gita that no effort made
for the sake of spiritual evolution goes in vain. The
merit of the spiritual practices ensures that the
individual is able to progress in the ensuing births. As
Bharata breathed his last thinking about his protégé he
was reborn as a deer and by virtue of his merit
remembered his previous birth. After working out his Karm
as a deer, in his next life he was born as the great sage
Jadabharat.

More at:
http://www.hindu.com

TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM

1. Mahatma Gandhi:

"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.

"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."


2. Henry David Thoreau:

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.

"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."


3. Arthur Schopenhauer:

"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."


4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."

The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.


5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:

"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."


6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:

"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."


7. Mark Twain:

"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.

"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."


8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:

"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".


9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:

"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."


10. Shri Aurobindo:

"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."


11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:

"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."


12. Joseph Campbell:

"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.

"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."


13. Sir Monier-Williams:

The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.


14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."


15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:

"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
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The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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User: "Hope Simmers"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 07:31:39 AM
Most people probably think they already know all they need to know
about Dr. Jai Maharaj, but I have some new information to bring to
light. To start, Maharaj speaks like a true defender of the status quo
-- a status quo, we should not forget, that enables him to create a
global workers plantation overseen by transnational corporations who
have no more concern for the human rights of those who produce their
products or services than Maharaj has for his mercenaries. An old joke
tells of the optimist who falls off a 60-story building and, as he
whizzes past the 35th floor, exclaims, "So far, so good!" But it is not
such blind optimism that causes Maharaj's dupes to think that they can
reduce social and cultural awareness to a dictated set of guidelines to
follow.
I want to keep this brief: He has had it easy all his life, so to
speak. Many people respond to Maharaj's cantankerous insinuations in
much the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch
them; they talk about them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to
do anything about them. That's why I insist we build a new
understanding that can transport us to tomorrow.
Despite some perceptions to the contrary, it's really astounding that
Maharaj has somehow found a way to work the words
"philosophicotheological" and "counterintelligence" into his
inveracities. However, you may find it even more astounding that if he
wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this
post with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or
insults. I claim that it can be safely said that our sacred values and
traditions mean nothing to him. Do you ever get the feeling that
Maharaj has shown he's not afraid to be venom-spouting? Well, you
should, because I have a message for Maharaj. My message is that, for
the good of us all, he should never overthrow western civilization
through the destruction of its four pillars -- family, nation,
religion, and democracy. He should never even try to do such an uncouth
thing. To make myself perfectly clear, by "never", I don't mean
"maybe", "sometimes", or "it depends". I mean only that everything I've
said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make
in this post. My key point is that the facts as I see them simply do
not support the false, but widely accepted, notion that this is the
best of all possible worlds and that Maharaj is the best of all
possible people.
Although Maharaj would rather I discuss the personality flaws of unwed,
pregnant teenagers, even if one isn't completely conversant with
current events, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that if my memory
serves me correctly, by exploiting social discontent and promising a
golden age of "human brotherhood", he will be successful in his
attempts to set the hoops through which we all must jump. The mere
mention of that fact guarantees that this post will never get published
in any mass-circulation periodical that Maharaj has any control over.
But that's inconsequential, because Maharaj's expositors all look like
Maharaj, think like Maharaj, act like Maharaj, and blow the whole
situation way out of proportion, just like Maharaj does. And all this
in the name of -- let me see if I can get their propaganda straight --
brotherhood and service. Ha! I hate to say this, but anyone who hasn't
been living in a cave with his eyes shut and his ears plugged knows
that certain facts are clear. For instance, if you ever ask Maharaj to
do something, you can bet that your request will get lost in the
shuffle, unaddressed, ignored, and rebuffed. When I was a child, my
clergyman told me, "The first casualty of Maharaj's ebullitions is
justice." If you think about it, you'll see his point. In contrast,
many people who follow Maharaj's magic-bullet explanations have come to
the erroneous conclusion that Maharaj is omnipotent. The stark truth of
the matter is that he is not at all apologetic for the harm his
flunkies have caused. But there is a further-reaching implication: I
honestly wouldn't want to threaten the common good. I would, on the
other hand, love to take off the kid gloves and vent some real anger at
Maharaj. But, hey, I'm already doing that with this post.
Not only have infantile shirkers decided to glorify their beliefs (as I
would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments) by dressing
them up as moral and righteous prerogatives, but their artifices are
being debated as though they were actually reasonable. I don't want to
make any hard and final judgments, but I once had a nightmare in which
Maharaj was free to use lethal violence as a source of humor. When I
awoke, I realized that this nightmare was frighteningly close to
reality. For instance, I have begged Maharaj's subalterns to step forth
and deal with Maharaj appropriately. To date, not a single soul has
agreed to help in this fashion. Are they worried about how Maharaj
might retaliate? In other words, why can't Maharaj simply enjoy the
fruits of his own labors and let other people enjoy the fruits of
theirs? This is not a question that we should run away from. Rather, it
is something that needs to be addressed quickly and directly, because a
person who wants to get ahead should try to understand the long-range
consequences of his/her actions. Maharaj has never had that faculty. He
always does what he wants to do at the moment and figures he'll be able
to lie himself out of any problems that arise. What I want to document
now is that not only does Maharaj saddle the economy with crippling
debt, but he then commands his trucklers, "Go, and do thou likewise."
He not only lies, but he brags about his lying to his underlings. What
Maharaj is incapable of seeing is that his platitudes are not an
abstract problem. They have very concrete, immediate, and unpleasant
consequences. For instance, the right thing to do in this case is
determined by various vectors of forces in an endless multidimensional
tug-of-war involving ropes leading out in many directions. End of
story. Actually, I should add that because of his obsession with
scapegoatism, Maharaj refers to a variety of things using the word
"pathologicohistological". Translating this bit of jargon into English
isn't easy. Basically, he's saying that we can change the truth if we
don't like it the way it is. At any rate, I cannot promise not to be
angry at him. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under
control, to keep it from leading me -- as it leads Maharaj -- to
perpetuate myths that glorify nonrepresentationalism. Stand with me, be
honest with me, and help me follow knowledge like a sinking star beyond
the utmost bound of human thought, and together we'll put an end to
asinine plagiarism. We'll champion the force of goodness against the
greed of the most haughty fugitives you'll ever see. I'm counting on
you. Thanks for reading this.
Eternally yours,
Hope Simmers
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User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 03:10:19 PM
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:31:39 -0500, Hope Simmers wrote
(in article <1114518699.585331.250580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
snip

Although Maharaj would rather I discuss the personality flaws of unwed,
pregnant teenagers, even if one isn't completely conversant with
current events, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that if my memory
serves me correctly, by exploiting social discontent and promising a
golden age of "human brotherhood", he will be successful in his
attempts to set the hoops through which we all must jump. The mere
mention of that fact guarantees that this post will never get published
in any mass-circulation periodical that Maharaj has any control over.

snip
And just which "mass-circulation periodical" would this moron have any
control over?
He is a net-kook, a nothing, a minor annoyance, and that is all he will ever
be.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³I confess I don't know much of the structural strenght of swiss cheese, but
it might be a bit sturdier than exploding right away.³ - CeeBee
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User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 05:39:14 AM
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:16:16 GMT,
(Dr. Jai Maharaj)
wrote:

Detachment essential

The Hindu

ok, you are detached.



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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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User: "Radical aeasterbunnyist"

Title: Re: DETACHMENT ESSENTIAL 26 Apr 2005 07:14:58 AM
The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj),who intoned thus:

The Lord assures in the Bhagavad Gita that no effort made
for the sake of spiritual evolution goes in vain. The
merit of the spiritual practices ensures that the
individual is able to progress in the ensuing births. As
Bharata breathed his last thinking about his protégé he
was reborn as a deer and by virtue of his merit
remembered his previous birth. After working out his Karm
as a deer, in his next life he was born as the great sage
Jadabharat.

A female deer?
'D'oh!'
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Due to be prayed for by Gastrich 11.3.2011
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