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User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 08 Jun 2007 06:44:57 AM
Object: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'
SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007
Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer
A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.
"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.
"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last
decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for
exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite
several times a week at his office in Rome.
"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he
conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in
challenging the devil."
That tidbit comes to us at a time when Benedict XVI is ready to loosen
restrictions on Latin Mass. It's in the new book -- a secular and
sometimes skeptical but fascinating glimpse into the world of Italian
priests who see their job as casting out demons.
While the numbers dwindle in countries like the Canada, France, and
the U.S., exorcists are on the rise on the Vatican's home turf --
thanks largely to priests such as Father Amorth.
In Italy the number of exorcists has grown tenfold in the past decade,
according to the priest (who is himself author of two bestsellers, An
Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist: More Stories). Credit is
also due to the legacy of John Paul II -- who made the notion of
exorcism, which was founded by Jesus Himself, respectable again.
Father Amorth was born in Modena in northern Italy and has been a
priest since 1954. In 1986 he began performing exorcisms under the
tutelage of the vicar for Rome.
According to Wilkinson, Father Amorth accepted the task "after praying
to the Virgin Mary for her steadfast guidance and protection."
"On the walls of Amorth's exorcism chamber, eight Crucifixes and
pictures of the Madonna are hanging, plus a picture of Saint Michael
the Archangel," says the book. "A two-foot-high statue of the Virgin
Mary, the Madonna of Fatima, sits on a corner table.
"There are also pictures of the late Pope John Paul II; the popular
saint Padre Pio; Amorth's mentor, Father Candido; and Father Giacomo
Alberione, the founder of the Society of Saint Paul Congregation."
Father Amorth calls them "my protectors," adding that "the more recent
addition of John Paul's has been especially effective and helpful."
"The demons become very agitated at his presence," Father Amorth says
of the late Pope -- who himself performed several exorcisms during his
pontificate and warned of the rise of dark forces both in 1977 and
then in 2005 just days before he lapsed in his final bout with
illness.
How is exorcism done? There is the Crucifix. There is the Holy Water.
There are the ritual prayers. Many times, those afflicted have to come
back on a regular basis -- the process a gradual one.
In Father Amorth's appointment book, women outnumber men by three to
one. That is perhaps because they are more in tune with the spiritual,
says the exorcist, or because they are special targets as the
descendants of Eve.
The very word "hysteria" -- so often seen in the possessed -- comes
from the Greek word hyster for womb. Greeks believed it was caused by
abnormalities in the uterus.
"I maintain that in part, the reason is because women are the ones who
do the most praying," says the priest. "Another reason is women are
more inclined to approach a priest than are men, in case of need."
In some cases, say other exorcists, the devil attempts to mask
possession as insanity. This sets up conflict with the far newer
practice of psychology -- which looks down on exorcism as the
psychiatrist's couch has replaced the confessional.
"An exorcism is the residue of a medieval practice completely devoid
of any foundation in reason," the book quotes Sergio Moravia, a
philosopher at the University of Florence, as saying. "I don't think
it's crazy. It's worse."
Exorcists counter that psychological diagnoses such as "multiple
personality" and "schizophrenia" are clinical covers for an
infestation.
That opinion is shared by the many who have sought the services of
Father Amorth -- finding relief when the devil was cast away after
years of frustration at the hands of psychiatrists who saw their
problems so differently.
Blessed salt and Holy Water are often used not just by the exorcists
themselves, but by those who have been exorcised -- to stave off
further disturbances.
Extraordinary strength, preternatural knowledge, speaking in foreign
tongues unknown to the victim, vomiting of strange objects, and
violent aversion to holy objects make pure psychological explanations
suspect in strong cases.
Prayer, of course, also chases the devil and his manifestations away
-- apparently, Latin in particular.
Bishop Andrea Gemma of Isernia -- who himself performs exorcisms --
ascribes the Church's move from Latin as part of a global plot to
undermine Christianity.
"The devil is happy with the near-disappearance of Latin," said the
bishop.
Does exorcism mask psychological illness with the supernatural, or is
psychology itself a ruse, at least in certain instances, to prevent
deliverance?
We have only to study the ministry of Jesus to know the answer.
.

User: "Big Dave"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 09:41:04 AM
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

This is just plain silly. It's almost like part of these religious
nutters never left the first grade. Did you ever watch kids play while
making up the rules as they go? Tell me how this sounds:
"OK, um, uh. You can't cross the line because you haven't scared the
devil. Uh, to scare the devil, mmm, you gotta speak Latin, OK?"
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 01:20:08 PM
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


This is just plain silly. It's almost like part of these religious
nutters never left the first grade. Did you ever watch kids play while
making up the rules as they go? Tell me how this sounds:
"OK, um, uh. You can't cross the line because you haven't scared the
devil. Uh, to scare the devil, mmm, you gotta speak Latin, OK?"

Pig Latin, maybe?



.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 02:48:49 AM
In article <Tvadnb0ZrI9RAPTbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com>,
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


This is just plain silly. It's almost like part of these religious
nutters never left the first grade. Did you ever watch kids play while
making up the rules as they go? Tell me how this sounds:
"OK, um, uh. You can't cross the line because you haven't scared the
devil. Uh, to scare the devil, mmm, you gotta speak Latin, OK?"


Pig Latin, maybe?



Evilday amscray!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.


User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 10:53:12 AM
In article <46696a37$0$9941$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Big Dave"
<dhaap@houston.r.r.com> wrote:

"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote in message
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


This is just plain silly. It's almost like part of these religious
nutters never left the first grade. Did you ever watch kids play while
making up the rules as they go? Tell me how this sounds:
"OK, um, uh. You can't cross the line because you haven't scared the
devil. Uh, to scare the devil, mmm, you gotta speak Latin, OK?"

• The reason that Satan hates Latin is because his mom insisted that he
take French instead of Latin in high-school.
.
User: "Dan"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 11:46:18 AM
On Jun 8, 11:53 am,
(=B7R L Measures) wrote:

In article <46696a37$0$9941$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, "Big Dave"

<d...@houston.r.r.com> wrote:

"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com> wrote in message
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts


DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


This is just plain silly. It's almost like part of these religious
nutters never left the first grade. Did you ever watch kids play while
making up the rules as they go? Tell me how this sounds:
"OK, um, uh. You can't cross the line because you haven't scared the
devil. Uh, to scare the devil, mmm, you gotta speak Latin, OK?"


=B7 The reason that Satan hates Latin is because his mom insisted that he
take French instead of Latin in high-school.

There is definitely yet another an active imagination at work in
Rome...
Abyssus abyssum invocat. :-)
.



User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 02:55:48 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:44:57 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

That anyone takes this even remotely seriously is mind-boggling.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.
User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 08:14:36 AM
In article <61dj63dcl2pq98efmlop26gtqv09ar2q64@4ax.com>, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:44:57 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


That anyone takes this even remotely seriously is mind-boggling.
--

** it's gotta be a put on.
.


User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 01:11:09 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:44:57 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts
DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN

And Bugs Bunny hates prayers in English.
.

User: "Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 01:23:46 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts
DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'
SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007
Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer
A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.
"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.
"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last
decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for
exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite
several times a week at his office in Rome.
"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he
conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in
challenging the devil."
<snips>

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One thing's for sure. The Latin Vulgate (editio Vulgata) is
the most accurate and erudite translation of the Scriptures
in existence. No other translation in the world comes close
(which is why any Christian worth his or her salt does well
to learn from it; everyone who doesn't doesn't know better).
And the Vulgate, and numerous other Latin translations, plus
untold copies thereof, have been widely published and extant
since the 5th century anno Domini (year of the Dominant one).
And because the fourth empire (of iron mixed with miry clay)
yet dominates the world (& Latin remains the language of her
laws & sciences), billions of souls have incarnated *dozens*
of times since the crucifixion of Jesus on April 25th 31 AD,
vindictive souls unwary of the many mnemonic chips on their
psychic shoulder. They hate without knowing *why* they hate,
being enslaved without realizing their indentured servitude.
You know, all that karma, all those trials and tribulations,
over the mundane centuries--under the iron-fisted hammer of
Mother Church! Thus veritable Legions of souls still harbor
a bitter grudge against her, even though she helped them to
work off their malignant karma, by taking this upon herself:
the Church and all governments of worldly power and control,
wholesale corruption, self-aggrandizement, & mammon-worship.
She has reached the zenith of her worldly power and control,
& the caelestial clock is about to strike the Witching hour!
(get it, digamma, "two suns"? Naw, I didn't think you would)
Words do have power, the pen being mightier than the sword.
That's why the devil-incarnate, the sinful, fragile, mortal,
vulnerable human ego -- which is essentially born to die --
doesn't understand, each to his own degree of unforgiveness
against the Roman empire, progenitors of the Latin language,
the ***** of Babylon whose unforgiving Judgment is imminent.
They don't understand in life ergo they don't understand in
death. Devils-incarnate or discarnate can't stand the Light!
For the quintessential example, look what they did to Jesus.
Look at what devils-incarnate did to Stephen, who testified:
"...et ait ecce video caelos apertos et
and said Behold, I am seeing the heavens opened, and
Filium hominis a dextris stantem Dei."
the Son of man to the right hand He is standing of God.
--Acts 7:56, editio Vulgata
These Rabid devils actually gnashed on him with their teeth!
Thus, they have built up MOUNTAINS of atrociously-bad karma,
egregious indebtedness which they shall pay for in Hellfire.
E.g., the prophecies of S. Maelmhaedhoc (Malachy) O'Morgair
(1095-1148), a most Timely prophecy #112, translated to wit:
"In persecutione extrema romanae ecclesiae
In the persecution extreme of the roman ekklesia
sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in
to sit Peter the Roman, who to feed the sheep in
multis tribulationibus; quibus transactis,
great tribulation; in which to transact,
civitas septis-collis diruetur, et Judex
the city seven- hilled's destruction, and Judge
tremendus judicabit populum suum. Amen."
tremendous will judge the populace her own. Amen.
When I began translating books, letters, and select passages
from the S. scriptures, & authoritative extra-biblical works,
I found the ancient Latin translation of Jerome superior to
all subsequent translations. I've published 100s of examples:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=(vulgata+OR+interlinear)+begin-pgp-signed-message+end-pgp-signature+%22Daniel+Joseph+Min%22&start=0&scoring=d&lr=&safe=on&num=100&
Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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User: "David J. Hughes"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 10:43:14 PM
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts
DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'
SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007
Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer
A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.
"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.
"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last
decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for
exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite
several times a week at his office in Rome.
"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he
conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in
challenging the devil."
<snips>



-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

One thing's for sure. The Latin Vulgate (editio Vulgata) is
the most accurate and erudite translation of the Scriptures
in existence. No other translation in the world comes close
(which is why any Christian worth his or her salt does well
to learn from it; everyone who doesn't doesn't know better).

But it's still just a translation, with all the problems of inaccuracies
and clouded meanings of any translation.
Read the original portions, in Greek and Aramaic.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 04:59:57 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:43:14 -0500, "David J. Hughes"
<davidjhughes.tx@netzero.net> wrote:

But it's still just a translation, with all the problems of inaccuracies
and clouded meanings of any translation.
Read the original portions, in Greek and Aramaic.

Christianity would prefer going back to the good old (dark) days, when
no one who wasn't properly trained (indoctrinated) read, or even had
access to, a Bible.
.
User: "Tell it like it is."

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 06:06:38 PM
On Jun 9, 5:59 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:43:14 -0500, "David J. Hughes"

<davidjhughes...@netzero.net> wrote:

But it's still just a translation, with all the problems of inaccuracies
and clouded meanings of any translation.
Read the original portions, in Greek and Aramaic.


Christianity would prefer going back to the good old (dark) days,
when
no one who wasn't properly trained (indoctrinated) read, or even had
access to, a Bible.
-Al Klein
.

User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 12 Jun 2007 06:25:54 AM
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:59:57 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:43:14 -0500, "David J. Hughes"
<davidjhughes.tx@netzero.net> wrote:

But it's still just a translation, with all the problems of inaccuracies
and clouded meanings of any translation.


Read the original portions, in Greek and Aramaic.


Christianity would prefer going back to the good old (dark) days, when
no one who wasn't properly trained (indoctrinated) read, or even had
access to, a Bible.

Ah, as we get to the origins of the children's game, "Simon says."
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 09:31:36 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:23:46 +0200, Cyberiade.it wrote:

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Truth in advertising Minnie...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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User: "Nosterill"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 08:53:12 AM
On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

That date simply has to be wrong. If that was true, this piece would
have been written in the 21st century and that's just plain ridiculous.
.
User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 11 Jun 2007 02:26:41 PM
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:53:12 -0700, Nosterill <fladgate@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007


That date simply has to be wrong. If that was true, this piece would
have been written in the 21st century and that's just plain ridiculous.

Perhaps it was written in octal?
Ben
.


User: "cormac"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 12:10:18 PM
On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer

A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.

"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.

"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last
decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for
exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite
several times a week at his office in Rome.

"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he
conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in
challenging the devil."

That tidbit comes to us at a time when Benedict XVI is ready to loosen
restrictions on Latin Mass. It's in the new book -- a secular and
sometimes skeptical but fascinating glimpse into the world of Italian
priests who see their job as casting out demons.

While the numbers dwindle in countries like the Canada, France, and
the U.S., exorcists are on the rise on the Vatican's home turf --
thanks largely to priests such as Father Amorth.

In Italy the number of exorcists has grown tenfold in the past decade,
according to the priest (who is himself author of two bestsellers, An
Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist: More Stories). Credit is
also due to the legacy of John Paul II -- who made the notion of
exorcism, which was founded by Jesus Himself, respectable again.

Father Amorth was born in Modena in northern Italy and has been a
priest since 1954. In 1986 he began performing exorcisms under the
tutelage of the vicar for Rome.

According to Wilkinson, Father Amorth accepted the task "after praying
to the Virgin Mary for her steadfast guidance and protection."

"On the walls of Amorth's exorcism chamber, eight Crucifixes and
pictures of the Madonna are hanging, plus a picture of Saint Michael
the Archangel," says the book. "A two-foot-high statue of the Virgin
Mary, the Madonna of Fatima, sits on a corner table.

"There are also pictures of the late Pope John Paul II; the popular
saint Padre Pio; Amorth's mentor, Father Candido; and Father Giacomo
Alberione, the founder of the Society of Saint Paul Congregation."

Father Amorth calls them "my protectors," adding that "the more recent
addition of John Paul's has been especially effective and helpful."

"The demons become very agitated at his presence," Father Amorth says
of the late Pope -- who himself performed several exorcisms during his
pontificate and warned of the rise of dark forces both in 1977 and
then in 2005 just days before he lapsed in his final bout with
illness.

How is exorcism done? There is the Crucifix. There is the Holy Water.
There are the ritual prayers. Many times, those afflicted have to come
back on a regular basis -- the process a gradual one.

In Father Amorth's appointment book, women outnumber men by three to
one. That is perhaps because they are more in tune with the spiritual,
says the exorcist, or because they are special targets as the
descendants of Eve.

The very word "hysteria" -- so often seen in the possessed -- comes
from the Greek word hyster for womb. Greeks believed it was caused by
abnormalities in the uterus.

"I maintain that in part, the reason is because women are the ones who
do the most praying," says the priest. "Another reason is women are
more inclined to approach a priest than are men, in case of need."

In some cases, say other exorcists, the devil attempts to mask
possession as insanity. This sets up conflict with the far newer
practice of psychology -- which looks down on exorcism as the
psychiatrist's couch has replaced the confessional.

"An exorcism is the residue of a medieval practice completely devoid
of any foundation in reason," the book quotes Sergio Moravia, a
philosopher at the University of Florence, as saying. "I don't think
it's crazy. It's worse."

Exorcists counter that psychological diagnoses such as "multiple
personality" and "schizophrenia" are clinical covers for an
infestation.

That opinion is shared by the many who have sought the services of
Father Amorth -- finding relief when the devil was cast away after
years of frustration at the hands of psychiatrists who saw their
problems so differently.

Blessed salt and Holy Water are often used not just by the exorcists
themselves, but by those who have been exorcised -- to stave off
further disturbances.

Extraordinary strength, preternatural knowledge, speaking in foreign
tongues unknown to the victim, vomiting of strange objects, and
violent aversion to holy objects make pure psychological explanations
suspect in strong cases.

Prayer, of course, also chases the devil and his manifestations away
-- apparently, Latin in particular.

Bishop Andrea Gemma of Isernia -- who himself performs exorcisms --
ascribes the Church's move from Latin as part of a global plot to
undermine Christianity.

"The devil is happy with the near-disappearance of Latin," said the
bishop.

Does exorcism mask psychological illness with the supernatural, or is
psychology itself a ruse, at least in certain instances, to prevent
deliverance?

We have only to study the ministry of Jesus to know the answer.

I recall from my long lost days as a schoolboy in a Christian
Brothers' School, what we were supposed to pray if we had bad
thoughts: Retro me Satana.
Bad Thoughts? Those were the days.
Cormac.
.

User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 11:29:19 AM
On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
Romani ite domum
.

User: "jcon"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 08:29:51 AM
On Jun 8, 6:44 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer

A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.

"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.

One of the best Penn and Teller "*****" episodes was
about exorcism. You can watch it in pieces on
YouTube:
http://tinyurl.com/2lenz4
The best is the "New Age Exorcist":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxUN30NXMo
It would be really funny if it weren't so sad that
people actually believe this crap.
-jc
.

User: "Dan"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 10:12:02 AM
On Jun 8, 7:44 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."
-Voltaire, (1694-1778)
.
User: "BAM"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 10 Jun 2007 01:05:24 AM
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."

-Voltaire, (1694-1778)

Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?
BAM
.
User: "Dan"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 10 Jun 2007 01:56:46 PM
On Jun 10, 2:05 am, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."


-Voltaire, (1694-1778)


Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?

Did Voltaire commit any atrocities?
.
User: "BAM"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 10 Jun 2007 06:45:46 PM
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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."


-Voltaire, (1694-1778)


Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?


Did Voltaire commit any atrocities?

His entire life was an atrocity. Poor guy........
VOLTAIRE'S SAD DEATH
"On two or three occasions, notwithstanding his fearful impiety,
notwithstanding the universal contagion of his blasphemy, he had experienced
that God would receive his repentance and Confession. During his sojourn in
Saxe he fell into a dangerous sickness, and received the sacraments
publicly, with great sentiments of humility and repentance, which lasted as
long as the danger. In Paris, on the night of February 25, 1778, he was
seized with a vomiting of blood, which frightened him so much that the next
morning he wrote the following note to an ecclesiastic:
"You promised, sir, to come and hear me. I beg you, be so kind as to come
immediately.
Voltaire, February 26th 1778"
Not seeing the priest coming, the sick man sent his niece, Madame Denis, to
bring him, and on the 2nd day of March made his Confession, after having
written a formal recantation of the scandals of his literary life. This
production, which we subjoin, was made public in time, and deposited with
Mr. Momet, the notary in Paris:
"I declare that, being seized with a vomiting of blood, at the age of 84
years, and not being able to drag myself to Church, the Rev. Pastor of St.
Sulpice has had the kindness to augment the number of his good works by the
additional one of sending to me the Abbe Gautelier, priest; I have made my
Confession to him; and that, if God dispose of me, I die in the Catholic
religion, in which I was born, hoping in the divine mercy to deign to pardon
all my faults. If I have scandalized the Church, I ask pardon of God, and
the Church.
Voltaire March 2nd 1778"
"In the house of the Marquis of Villete, in the presence of Abbe Mignon, my
nephew, and the Marquis of Villevielle my friend.
(signed) Mignot Villevielle"
This time also his penitence disappeared with his danger. Some weeks
afterward he had a relapse and again called a priest; but, surrounded by
infidels who would not listen to him, and who hindered the priest from
approaching him, he died on the 30th of May, in the most frightful state of
rage and despair. Fury took possession of his soul, and God alone knows the
rest. What we know is that he died as he had lived, and we know also that
the same may happen to all those who say, "I will confess before I die"."
Msgr. Louis Gaston de Segur
BAM
.
User: "Kilmir"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 12 Jun 2007 10:10:09 AM
On 11 jun, 01:45, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

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On Jun 8, 7:44 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts


DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."


-Voltaire, (1694-1778)


Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?


Did Voltaire commit any atrocities?


His entire life was an atrocity. Poor guy........

VOLTAIRE'S SAD DEATH

"On two or three occasions, notwithstanding his fearful impiety,
notwithstanding the universal contagion of his blasphemy, he had experienced
that God would receive his repentance and Confession. During his sojourn in
Saxe he fell into a dangerous sickness, and received the sacraments
publicly, with great sentiments of humility and repentance, which lasted as
long as the danger. In Paris, on the night of February 25, 1778, he was
seized with a vomiting of blood, which frightened him so much that the next
morning he wrote the following note to an ecclesiastic:

"You promised, sir, to come and hear me. I beg you, be so kind as to come
immediately.
Voltaire, February 26th 1778"

Not seeing the priest coming, the sick man sent his niece, Madame Denis, to
bring him, and on the 2nd day of March made his Confession, after having
written a formal recantation of the scandals of his literary life. This
production, which we subjoin, was made public in time, and deposited with
Mr. Momet, the notary in Paris:

"I declare that, being seized with a vomiting of blood, at the age of 84
years, and not being able to drag myself to Church, the Rev. Pastor of St.
Sulpice has had the kindness to augment the number of his good works by the
additional one of sending to me the Abbe Gautelier, priest; I have made my
Confession to him; and that, if God dispose of me, I die in the Catholic
religion, in which I was born, hoping in the divine mercy to deign to pardon
all my faults. If I have scandalized the Church, I ask pardon of God, and
the Church.
Voltaire March 2nd 1778"

"In the house of the Marquis of Villete, in the presence of Abbe Mignon, my
nephew, and the Marquis of Villevielle my friend.
(signed) Mignot Villevielle"

This time also his penitence disappeared with his danger. Some weeks
afterward he had a relapse and again called a priest; but, surrounded by
infidels who would not listen to him, and who hindered the priest from
approaching him, he died on the 30th of May, in the most frightful state of
rage and despair. Fury took possession of his soul, and God alone knows the
rest. What we know is that he died as he had lived, and we know also that
the same may happen to all those who say, "I will confess before I die"."

Msgr. Louis Gaston de Segur

BAM

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7308/deathbed.htm
"...When the clergy are reduced to manufacture such contemptible
rubbish as this, they must indeed be in great straits. It is flatly
contradicted by the evidence of every contemporary of Voltaire.
Our readers will, we think, be fully satisfied that Voltaire neither
recanted nor died raving, but remained a skeptic to the last; passing
away quietly, at a ripe old age, to the "undiscovered country from
whose bourne no traveller returns," and leaving behind him a name that
brightens the tracks of time. "
.
User: "BAM"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 17 Jun 2007 11:51:29 AM
"Kilmir" <Kilmir@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 8, 7:44 am, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts


DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."


-Voltaire, (1694-1778)


Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?


Did Voltaire commit any atrocities?


His entire life was an atrocity. Poor guy........

VOLTAIRE'S SAD DEATH

"On two or three occasions, notwithstanding his fearful impiety,
notwithstanding the universal contagion of his blasphemy, he had
experienced
that God would receive his repentance and Confession. During his sojourn
in
Saxe he fell into a dangerous sickness, and received the sacraments
publicly, with great sentiments of humility and repentance, which lasted
as
long as the danger. In Paris, on the night of February 25, 1778, he was
seized with a vomiting of blood, which frightened him so much that the
next
morning he wrote the following note to an ecclesiastic:

"You promised, sir, to come and hear me. I beg you, be so kind as to come
immediately.
Voltaire, February 26th 1778"

Not seeing the priest coming, the sick man sent his niece, Madame Denis,
to
bring him, and on the 2nd day of March made his Confession, after having
written a formal recantation of the scandals of his literary life. This
production, which we subjoin, was made public in time, and deposited with
Mr. Momet, the notary in Paris:

"I declare that, being seized with a vomiting of blood, at the age of 84
years, and not being able to drag myself to Church, the Rev. Pastor of
St.
Sulpice has had the kindness to augment the number of his good works by
the
additional one of sending to me the Abbe Gautelier, priest; I have made
my
Confession to him; and that, if God dispose of me, I die in the Catholic
religion, in which I was born, hoping in the divine mercy to deign to
pardon
all my faults. If I have scandalized the Church, I ask pardon of God, and
the Church.
Voltaire March 2nd 1778"

"In the house of the Marquis of Villete, in the presence of Abbe Mignon,
my
nephew, and the Marquis of Villevielle my friend.
(signed) Mignot Villevielle"

This time also his penitence disappeared with his danger. Some weeks
afterward he had a relapse and again called a priest; but, surrounded by
infidels who would not listen to him, and who hindered the priest from
approaching him, he died on the 30th of May, in the most frightful state
of
rage and despair. Fury took possession of his soul, and God alone knows
the
rest. What we know is that he died as he had lived, and we know also that
the same may happen to all those who say, "I will confess before I die"."

Msgr. Louis Gaston de Segur

BAM


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7308/deathbed.htm

"...When the clergy are reduced to manufacture such contemptible
rubbish as this, they must indeed be in great straits. It is flatly
contradicted by the evidence of every contemporary of Voltaire.

Our readers will, we think, be fully satisfied that Voltaire neither
recanted nor died raving, but remained a skeptic to the last; passing
away quietly, at a ripe old age, to the "undiscovered country from
whose bourne no traveller returns," and leaving behind him a name that
brightens the tracks of time. "

I think your witnesses have serious credibility problems - these were the
rogues who wouldn't let him see a priest.
BAM
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 17 Jun 2007 09:32:42 PM
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:51:29 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

I think your witnesses have serious credibility problems - these were the
rogues who wouldn't let him see a priest.

If you really think Voltaire "converted" to Christianity before his
death, you have absolutely no understanding of atheism. He's just as
likely have converted to Islam, Hindu or Teal Leaf Reading. Except
that tea leaves actually exist.
.



User: "Dan"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 11 Jun 2007 09:25:53 AM
On Jun 10, 7:45 pm, "BAM" <mcca5...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

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On Jun 8, 7:44 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts


DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities."


-Voltaire, (1694-1778)


Ahh yes.......but who is the absurd one?


Did Voltaire commit any atrocities?


His entire life was an atrocity. Poor guy........

At least he was fortunate enough to die before witnessing the
catastrophe (1789) for which he had helped to pave the way.

VOLTAIRE'S SAD DEATH

"On two or three occasions, notwithstanding his fearful impiety,
notwithstanding the universal contagion of his blasphemy, he had experienced
that God would receive his repentance and Confession. During his sojourn in
Saxe he fell into a dangerous sickness, and received the sacraments
publicly, with great sentiments of humility and repentance, which lasted as
long as the danger. In Paris, on the night of February 25, 1778, he was
seized with a vomiting of blood, which frightened him so much that the next
morning he wrote the following note to an ecclesiastic:

"You promised, sir, to come and hear me. I beg you, be so kind as to come
immediately.
Voltaire, February 26th 1778"

Not seeing the priest coming, the sick man sent his niece, Madame Denis, to
bring him, and on the 2nd day of March made his Confession, after having
written a formal recantation of the scandals of his literary life. This
production, which we subjoin, was made public in time, and deposited with
Mr. Momet, the notary in Paris:

"I declare that, being seized with a vomiting of blood, at the age of 84
years, and not being able to drag myself to Church, the Rev. Pastor of St.
Sulpice has had the kindness to augment the number of his good works by the
additional one of sending to me the Abbe Gautelier, priest; I have made my
Confession to him; and that, if God dispose of me, I die in the Catholic
religion, in which I was born, hoping in the divine mercy to deign to pardon
all my faults. If I have scandalized the Church, I ask pardon of God, and
the Church.
Voltaire March 2nd 1778"

"In the house of the Marquis of Villete, in the presence of Abbe Mignon, my
nephew, and the Marquis of Villevielle my friend.
(signed) Mignot Villevielle"

This time also his penitence disappeared with his danger. Some weeks
afterward he had a relapse and again called a priest; but, surrounded by
infidels who would not listen to him, and who hindered the priest from
approaching him, he died on the 30th of May, in the most frightful state of
rage and despair. Fury took possession of his soul, and God alone knows the
rest. What we know is that he died as he had lived, and we know also that
the same may happen to all those who say, "I will confess before I die"."

Msgr. Louis Gaston de Segur

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User: "Andres64"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 09 Jun 2007 03:04:53 AM
On Jun 8, 7:44 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

LMAO! That's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, and
that's quite a feat considering...
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 06:49:38 AM
On Jun 8, 9:44 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1842528/posts

DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS
'ROME'S EXORCIST'

SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer

A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.

"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The
Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from
Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even
though that has never been his formal title.

"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last
decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for
exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite
several times a week at his office in Rome.

"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he
conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in
challenging the devil."

That tidbit comes to us at a time when Benedict XVI is ready to loosen
restrictions on Latin Mass. It's in the new book -- a secular and
sometimes skeptical but fascinating glimpse into the world of Italian
priests who see their job as casting out demons.

While the numbers dwindle in countries like the Canada, France, and
the U.S., exorcists are on the rise on the Vatican's home turf --
thanks largely to priests such as Father Amorth.

In Italy the number of exorcists has grown tenfold in the past decade,
according to the priest (who is himself author of two bestsellers, An
Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist: More Stories). Credit is
also due to the legacy of John Paul II -- who made the notion of
exorcism, which was founded by Jesus Himself, respectable again.

Father Amorth was born in Modena in northern Italy and has been a
priest since 1954. In 1986 he began performing exorcisms under the
tutelage of the vicar for Rome.

According to Wilkinson, Father Amorth accepted the task "after praying
to the Virgin Mary for her steadfast guidance and protection."

"On the walls of Amorth's exorcism chamber, eight Crucifixes and
pictures of the Madonna are hanging, plus a picture of Saint Michael
the Archangel," says the book. "A two-foot-high statue of the Virgin
Mary, the Madonna of Fatima, sits on a corner table.

"There are also pictures of the late Pope John Paul II; the popular
saint Padre Pio; Amorth's mentor, Father Candido; and Father Giacomo
Alberione, the founder of the Society of Saint Paul Congregation."

Father Amorth calls them "my protectors," adding that "the more recent
addition of John Paul's has been especially effective and helpful."

"The demons become very agitated at his presence," Father Amorth says
of the late Pope -- who himself performed several exorcisms during his
pontificate and warned of the rise of dark forces both in 1977 and
then in 2005 just days before he lapsed in his final bout with
illness.

How is exorcism done? There is the Crucifix. There is the Holy Water.
There are the ritual prayers. Many times, those afflicted have to come
back on a regular basis -- the process a gradual one.

In Father Amorth's appointment book, women outnumber men by three to
one. That is perhaps because they are more in tune with the spiritual,
says the exorcist, or because they are special targets as the
descendants of Eve.

The very word "hysteria" -- so often seen in the possessed -- comes
from the Greek word hyster for womb. Greeks believed it was caused by
abnormalities in the uterus.

"I maintain that in part, the reason is because women are the ones who
do the most praying," says the priest. "Another reason is women are
more inclined to approach a priest than are men, in case of need."

In some cases, say other exorcists, the devil attempts to mask
possession as insanity. This sets up conflict with the far newer
practice of psychology -- which looks down on exorcism as the
psychiatrist's couch has replaced the confessional.

"An exorcism is the residue of a medieval practice completely devoid
of any foundation in reason," the book quotes Sergio Moravia, a
philosopher at the University of Florence, as saying. "I don't think
it's crazy. It's worse."

Exorcists counter that psychological diagnoses such as "multiple
personality" and "schizophrenia" are clinical covers for an
infestation.

That opinion is shared by the many who have sought the services of
Father Amorth -- finding relief when the devil was cast away after
years of frustration at the hands of psychiatrists who saw their
problems so differently.

Blessed salt and Holy Water are often used not just by the exorcists
themselves, but by those who have been exorcised -- to stave off
further disturbances.

Extraordinary strength, preternatural knowledge, speaking in foreign
tongues unknown to the victim, vomiting of strange objects, and
violent aversion to holy objects make pure psychological explanations
suspect in strong cases.

Prayer, of course, also chases the devil and his manifestations away
-- apparently, Latin in particular.

Bishop Andrea Gemma of Isernia -- who himself performs exorcisms --
ascribes the Church's move from Latin as part of a global plot to
undermine Christianity.

"The devil is happy with the near-disappearance of Latin," said the
bishop.

Does exorcism mask psychological illness with the supernatural, or is
psychology itself a ruse, at least in certain instances, to prevent
deliverance?

We have only to study the ministry of Jesus to know the answer.

Why is the Devil afraid of -anything- except God himself, may I ask?
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Devil Especially Hates Prayers In Latin, Says Rome's Chief Exorcist 08 Jun 2007 09:02:55 PM
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