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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Codebreaker"
Date: 05 Feb 2008 04:35:29 PM
Object: Did Mohammad Say He Ever Saw God?
"He saw Him once again at the Sidra Tree, Beyond which
no one may pass.
When that tree was covered with what covered it, his eyes
did not wander, nor did they turn aside: for he saw some
his Lord's greatest signs. Qur'an 53:9
For our brightest minds, this is about Mohammad, so
Mohammad wrote this about himself. Yet they turn around
and tell us that Mohammad was an ordinary man, he never
claimed any miracle since it is written
"They say:' why does he not bring us a miracle from his Lord?
Have they not been given sufficient proof in previous Scriptures?"
The Scriptures of Abraham wa Moses? Qur'an 20:131
But is there a greater miracle than seeying God, because this is
what the above verse is about.
So, de deux choses l'une. Or our secularized scholars
don't know the significance of what is being said. Or they
truly understand what being said but refuse to disclose it
for fear of backing up the Bible. Thus playing seek and
hide with the History of Christianity.
What the above verse is about?
For us, and according to our understanding it is about
Moses. Moses being defended and cleaned of
the Meccan pagans accusations that he was a sorcerer
and his Torah/Law and the whole story about him,a pile of lies.
"They say, this is the same old lies" Qur'an 46:10
The Qur'anic "God" rushed to Moses rescue and cleared him
of every pagan attack and with an air of triumph
asked the Meccans:
"Have you considered Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat, the third?
Are you to have the sons, and He the daughters?
This is indeed an unfair distinction.
They are but names which you and your fathers have invented..."
Qur'an 53:20
In others words, let us get real. How about Al-Lat, Al-Uzzat...
thoses rocks that you worship in your Kabba. How about them?
You are so stupid to the point of calling them daughters of God.
God give them no authority. As for Moses, he clearly saw his God
in the Sinai desert where God gave him a LIVING ORACLE. see above
Which none should touch except the purified. 56:74.
"Thus do we recount to you the History of past event. A scripture
of our own - understand the Jews - we have given you." 20:101
"No soul shall another's burden..." Qur'an 39:11
A direct attack on Paul's doctrine: "When we were sinners
Christ died for us..."
HOW CLEAR THIS BOOK NEEDS TO BE secular assholes?
So why are trying to confuse it?
This is the END of the comparative study of religions by
secular scholars. Christianity, be it in its Catholico
trinitarian version, or in its Islamic version cannot be compared
to any ohter pagan religion in this world.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Did Mohammad Say He Ever Saw God? 05 Feb 2008 07:53:13 PM
On Feb 5, 5:35=A0pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:

"He saw Him once again at the Sidra Tree, Beyond which
no one may pass.
When that tree was covered with what covered it, his eyes
did not wander, nor did they turn aside: for he saw some
his Lord's greatest signs. Qur'an 53:9

For our brightest minds, this is about Mohammad, so
Mohammad wrote this about himself. Yet they turn around
and tell us that Mohammad was an ordinary man, he never
claimed any miracle since it is written
"They say:' why does he not bring us a miracle from his Lord?
Have they not been given sufficient proof in previous Scriptures?"
The Scriptures of Abraham wa Moses? Qur'an 20:131

But is there a greater miracle than seeying God, because this is
what the above verse is about.
So, de deux choses l'une. Or our secularized scholars
don't know the significance of what is being said. Or they
truly understand what being said but refuse to disclose it
for fear of backing up the Bible. Thus playing seek and
hide with the History of Christianity.

What the above verse is about?
For us, and according to our understanding it is about
Moses. Moses being defended and cleaned of
the Meccan pagans accusations that he was a sorcerer
and his Torah/Law and the whole story about him,a pile of lies.
"They say, this is the same old lies" Qur'an 46:10
The Qur'anic "God" rushed to Moses rescue and cleared him
of every pagan attack and with an air of triumph
asked the Meccans:
"Have you considered Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat, the third?
Are you to have the sons, and He the daughters?
This is indeed an unfair distinction.
They are but names which you and your fathers have invented..."
Qur'an 53:20
In others words, let us get real. How about Al-Lat, Al-Uzzat...
thoses rocks that you worship in your Kabba. How about them?
You are so stupid to the point of calling them daughters of God.
God give them no authority. As for Moses, he clearly saw his God
in the Sinai desert where God gave him a LIVING ORACLE. see above
Which none should touch except the purified. 56:74.
"Thus do we recount to you the History of past event. A scripture
of our own - understand the Jews - we have given you." 20:101

"No soul shall another's burden..." Qur'an 39:11
A direct attack on Paul's doctrine: "When we were sinners
Christ died for us..."
HOW CLEAR THIS BOOK NEEDS TO BE secular assholes?
So why are trying to confuse it?

This is the END of the comparative study of religions by
secular scholars. Christianity, be it in its Catholico
trinitarian version, or in its Islamic version cannot be compared
to any ohter pagan religion in this world.

Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat are supposably lies given to Mohammad
from the devil. Islamic scholars still debate on whether God acually
has a face and hands or if that is just a metaphor for something else.
http://thephilosophyofgod.com/blog/
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Did Mohammad Say He Ever Saw God? 05 Feb 2008 06:16:40 PM
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:35:29 -0800 in
4f6d90e4-c986-4b21-b67d-8344aba9bad7@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:

Did Mohammad Say He Ever Saw God?

WE DON'T CARE.
What part of "atheism" are you having so much trouble with? Is it the
letters?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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How did you hurt your back? Running away from good taste?
-- Karen Walker
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