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Director Of Robocop, Showgirls And Starship Troopers Plans To Make Film About Jesus |
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and
politically real, and is defendable. I mean we couldn't have the scene
of Jesus
praying at Golgotha when everyone else is sleeping. How could we have a
report
of that when everyone's sleeping? That's a contradiction in the text
already. So
all those will be eliminated.
Because, of course, it's much more realistic to believe that after
Jesus woke the disciples and begged them to pray, they were capable of
falling asleep in the second and a half it took Jesus to pray the words
the gospels record. It couldn't possibly be that the gospels offer a
summary of Jesus' prayer and not an hour-long, word for word
transcription.
This movie is *so* going to suck.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20061
01 December 2006
Verhoeven Talks Jesus
Exclusive: On his religious project
In this month's Empire magazine Paul Verhoeven opened up about his
upcoming project based, perhaps surprisingly, on the life of Jesus.
"Well, first of all it is a book," says Verhoeven. "It may be a
film after. Essentially it is about Jesus the human being. That's a big
step isn't it? To see him only as a human being, and it's as
historical as possible. It really goes into the politics of the time
and tries to show a lot of things that have been buried and eliminated
by Christianity. My scriptwriter told me not to do the movie in the
United States because they might shoot me. So I took his advice and
decided to write a book about it first."
So are we talking more Passion of the Christ or Last Temptation? "My
[portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and politically real, and is defendable. I mean we couldn't have the
scene of Jesus praying at Golgotha when everyone else is sleeping. How
could we have a report of that when everyone's sleeping? That's a
contradiction in the text already. So all those will be eliminated.
And Gibson's film? "It seemed to be saying the more blood is shed
the more we are purified. I mean, honestly, such a thing is not
possible. Nobody is purifying anybody else. The Church, not knowing how
to handle the death of Jesus, this idea had to be presented. It is the
ultra-fabrication. This is a corrective to 2,000 years of Christianity.
I don't know what the title will be but the tagline should be
something like 'Getting Jesus Back!"
Well, it's something of a break from the norm for the director of
Showgirls and Starship Troopers, but it will be interesting. "I was
interested in Black Magic and the Occult and then started to be
interested in miracles [laughs]. My view was always, "Well this is
impossible, in fact it's self-contradictory". So I became
interested in the historical facts: what time did he get up and so on.
I feel like Hercule Poirot investigating Jesus!"
For more from Paul Verhoeven on this and other projects, as well as
much more, pick up this month's issue of Empire.
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11 Dec 2006 07:00:25 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
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Subject: Director Of Robocop, Showgirls And Starship Troopers Plans To
Make Film About Jesus
Ah. A comedy.
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Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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11 Dec 2006 10:24:23 PM |
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Doc Smartass wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
news:1165870759.349935.280130@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Subject: Director Of Robocop, Showgirls And Starship Troopers Plans
To Make Film About Jesus
Ah. A comedy.
No way to tell. If Starship Trooper is any indication, it will have a title
"Life of Jesus" and may be a cowboy film without Mongo or the singing.
"I get no kick from Champaign..."
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| User: "The Hurkle Beast" |
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12 Dec 2006 09:30:48 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:X9qfh.27405$qO4.22987@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
Doc Smartass wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
news:1165870759.349935.280130@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Subject: Director Of Robocop, Showgirls And Starship Troopers
Plans
To Make Film About Jesus
Ah. A comedy.
No way to tell. If Starship Trooper is any indication, it will have
a title
"Life of Jesus"
Don't you think he'd come up with a snazzier title?
and may be a cowboy film without Mongo or the singing.
What? A cowboy film without a genius dwarf?
"I get no kick from Champaign..."
Yeah, it's been a drag here, since they passed that anti-smoking
ordinance.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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11 Dec 2006 05:58:51 PM |
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In article <1165870759.349935.280130@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@myway.com says...
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and politically real, and is defendable.
Yeah, but I wonder who is gonna pay $9.75 to watch a blank screen ? ;))
This movie is *so* going to suck.
That's because jesus sucks, sucktard. As to the content of the movie, it
probably won't go far enough in debunking ChristInsanity. However, if it
pisses off fundy idiots like you then I guess I'll pony up some loot for
tickets. Thanks for convincing me to go see it.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "David E. Powell" |
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17 Dec 2006 10:30:05 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1165870759.349935.280130@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@myway.com says...
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and politically real, and is defendable.
Yeah, but I wonder who is gonna pay $9.75 to watch a blank screen ? ;))
This movie is *so* going to suck.
That's because
1 star troll snipped.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Dec 2006 04:18:24 PM |
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On 11 Dec 2006 12:59:19 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and politically real, and is defendable.
He's going to portray a spirit?
This movie is *so* going to suck.
Any movie about Jesus would.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "RichA" |
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11 Dec 2006 05:07:25 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 11 Dec 2006 12:59:19 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and politically real, and is defendable.
He's going to portray a spirit?
This movie is *so* going to suck.
Any movie about Jesus would.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
I'd like to see one about his life from childhood to just before he
found out he was God's son. He must have done something during that
time. It could be purely speculative.
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| User: "Invid Fan" |
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11 Dec 2006 10:48:16 PM |
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In article <1165878445.680951.158910@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
RichA <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see one about his life from childhood to just before he
found out he was God's son. He must have done something during that
time. It could be purely speculative.
Someone could adapt the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which tells stories
of Jesus from age 5-12. It was rejected for inclusion in the Bible,
despite being popular, but the stories appear in the Muslim Koran.
--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total *****. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
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| User: "Azaliah" |
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12 Dec 2006 08:19:12 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:48:16 -0500, while bungee jumping,
Invid Fan <invid@localnet.com> shouted thusly:
In article <1165878445.680951.158910@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
RichA <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see one about his life from childhood to just before he
found out he was God's son. He must have done something during that
time. It could be purely speculative.
Someone could adapt the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which tells stories
of Jesus from age 5-12. It was rejected for inclusion in the Bible,
despite being popular, but the stories appear in the Muslim Koran.
A document written much later and so, could not have
been written by Thomas, should not have been included.
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Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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12 Dec 2006 11:46:42 AM |
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:19:12 GMT, Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:48:16 -0500, while bungee jumping,
Invid Fan <invid@localnet.com> shouted thusly:
Someone could adapt the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which tells stories
of Jesus from age 5-12. It was rejected for inclusion in the Bible,
despite being popular, but the stories appear in the Muslim Koran.
A document written much later and so, could not have
been written by Thomas, should not have been included.
So, since the first mention of a human Jesus was written much later,
it also should not have been included.
"Include" all those parts that shouldn't have been included for one
reason or another and you're left with a front cover and a back cover.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A myth is a fixed way of looking at the world which cannot be destroyed
because, looked at through the myth, all evidence supports the myth."
- Edward De Bono
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| User: "Ash" |
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11 Dec 2006 03:14:42 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and
politically real, and is defendable.
Going to be a 5 minute short then?
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| User: "Olrik" |
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11 Dec 2006 10:15:15 PM |
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Ash wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and
politically real, and is defendable.
Going to be a 5 minute short then?
Including the credits.
Olrik
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| User: "Jon Schild" |
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13 Dec 2006 03:28:31 PM |
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Olrik wrote:
Ash wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
to make film about Jesus
Money quote:
My [portrayal of Jesus'] life will be much more realistic and much more
historical. I just want to go for what is historically, sociologically
and
politically real, and is defendable.
Going to be a 5 minute short then?
Including the credits.
Olrik
I will believe the project even exists when I see it from a reliable
source.
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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11 Dec 2006 03:29:12 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Verhoeven Talks Jesus
So are we talking more Passion of the Christ or Last Temptation?
Let's go back and *focus* on that one key quote that the rest of us
picked up on right away:
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
....We are SO talking "Passion". And I don't mean the box office. :)
There's one director in the world loonier than Mad Mel, and it ain't
Sane Scorsese.
Derek Janssen (I mean, "Basic Instinct" seemed like such a *spiritual*
journey!)
ejanss@comcast.net
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| User: "Nick Macpherson" |
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11 Dec 2006 04:46:38 PM |
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Derek Janssen wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116560284346607779
Verhoeven Talks Jesus
So are we talking more Passion of the Christ or Last Temptation?
Let's go back and *focus* on that one key quote that the rest of us
picked up on right away:
Guy who gave the world "Robocop", "Showgirls", and "Starship Troopers"
...We are SO talking "Passion". And I don't mean the box office. :)
There's one director in the world loonier than Mad Mel, and it ain't
Sane Scorsese.
Derek Janssen (I mean, "Basic Instinct" seemed like such a *spiritual*
journey!)
Verhoeven's been talking about making a Jesus movie since the 80s. At
one point, Mel Brooks was set to produce--back during Mel's brief
"backer of weird directors" period.
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| User: "Jordan" |
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11 Dec 2006 06:50:41 PM |
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Nick Macpherson wrote:
Verhoeven's been talking about making a Jesus movie since the 80s. At
one point, Mel Brooks was set to produce--back during Mel's brief
"backer of weird directors" period.
Based on Verhoeven's record, I shudder to imagine his take on the New
Testament. And I'm an atheist.
My guess: _The Life of Brian_ will surpass it as a realistic portrayal
of 1st century Judea.
- Jordan
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| User: "Jordan" |
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11 Dec 2006 06:50:47 PM |
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Nick Macpherson wrote:
Verhoeven's been talking about making a Jesus movie since the 80s. At
one point, Mel Brooks was set to produce--back during Mel's brief
"backer of weird directors" period.
Based on Verhoeven's record, I shudder to imagine his take on the New
Testament. And I'm an atheist.
My guess: _The Life of Brian_ will surpass it as a realistic portrayal
of 1st century Judea.
- Jordan
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| User: "Michael Grosberg" |
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12 Dec 2006 04:08:22 AM |
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Jordan wrote:
Nick Macpherson wrote:
Verhoeven's been talking about making a Jesus movie since the 80s. At
one point, Mel Brooks was set to produce--back during Mel's brief
"backer of weird directors" period.
Based on Verhoeven's record, I shudder to imagine his take on the New
Testament. And I'm an atheist.
The first question that comes to mind is, will he settle for just
having a rough sex scene between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, or will he
add some Jesus / Judas action as well?
Also, how many roman soldiers will be brutally killed by the hand of
Jesus?
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| User: "Karl M. Syring" |
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13 Dec 2006 03:08:54 PM |
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Michael Grosberg wrote:
The first question that comes to mind is, will he settle for just
having a rough sex scene between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, or will he
add some Jesus / Judas action as well?
Also, how many roman soldiers will be brutally killed by the hand of
Jesus?
Then, he has to tell the story of a conspiration to eliminate all
traces of the historical events.
Karl M. Syring
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