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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Auntie Lib"
Date: 09 Sep 2005 07:47:02 PM
Object: Disaster Survival Kit
I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?
I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.
What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.
I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:
A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.
For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds
This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.
Anything I've forgotten?
What's YOUR disaster survival plan?
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one,
then you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is
a ticket to eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God
gives me a mind capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned
if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
.

User: "WCB"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 04:14:23 AM
Auntie Lib wrote:

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

Portable toilet and plenty of toilet bags to go with it.
Get a barb-b-que, keep charcoal on hand.
Get a chimney lighter to go with it, and lighters.
You may be cooking without electricity or gas
for awhile.
A large gallon size gravity type water filter and extra filters.
Cheap army boots. Walking around in rubble can be hard on
the feet. A couple of cheap coolers. If somebody handed you
a couple of bags of ice, what would you do with them?
A bicycle.
A tent. See Sportsman's Guide for lots of camping stuff cheap.
Inside. A fireproof safe. All your checks, records, deeds, etc
there. In one spot.

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one,
then you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is
a ticket to eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God
gives me a mind capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned
if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

--
"Today the official spokesman for the Foxes
agreed an investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed."
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 08:49:09 AM
Auntie Lib wrote:

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

You've forgotten to keep it accessable. It is in the garage; what do you do
if the garage collapses or access to there is otherwise restricted?
Rather than a single, large kit, have several smaller caches around your
home. Have a school type backpack (so it can be grabbed easily) with food,
water, a batteryless flashlight and a whistle in every bedroom, either in
the closet or under the bed. If possible, get one for each of the room's
residents, preferably in a "grab and go" backpack. The bag can also contain
a change of clothes, toiletries, spare medicine, etc for the person.
Keep another in the main room of the house, in a closet or under an
end-table. If it is at the other end of the home from the kitchen, include
some food, water and a flashlight with it. That one should also have a good
quality first aid kit, including things like an ace bandage, sling,
splints, etc. If anyone takes meds, keep a three or four day backup supply
here, as well as in their personal bag.
Set up a schedule to check the supplies and replace anything that has
become out of date. That is also a good time to make sure that everyone in
your household knows where are the supplies and what to do in an emergency.
The start and end of daylight savings time has become the standard time of
checking home safety (such as making sure your smoke detectors are still
working.)
Lastly, it certainly would not hurt to have as many people as possible take
a class at the YMCA about basic first aid. A lot of it is not as intuitive
as you would hope.

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

I have an one bedroom apartment on the top floor of a four story building.
I keep a backpack underneath my night stand (a former end-table) that
contains:
emergency blanket
1# bag of beef jerkey, commercially sealed
1# bag of granola, home vacuum sealed
2 1 liter bottles of water, commercially sealed
chemical light sticks in several colors
whistle
3 day backup supply of my allergy, diabetes and high cholesterol meds
box of waterproof matches
rain poncho
change of clothes, including socks
spare debit card and my "for emergencies only" credit card
$50 cash in small bills (change might be difficult in a major emergency)
a large first aid kit
The only two likely scenarios are earthquake and fire. When the fire alarm
in my building goes off (which happens with annoying frequency), I grab my
bag and my mud shoes (kept next to the door, for when I need footwear that
can get muddy) and head out. In the case of earthquake, I will either be in
my bedroom or in the living room right next to the kitchen, where I have
various other supplies.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 08:55:26 AM
Gregory Gadow wrote:

I have an one bedroom apartment on the top floor of a four story building.
I keep a backpack underneath my night stand (a former end-table) that
contains:

emergency blanket
1# bag of beef jerkey, commercially sealed
1# bag of granola, home vacuum sealed
2 1 liter bottles of water, commercially sealed
chemical light sticks in several colors
whistle
3 day backup supply of my allergy, diabetes and high cholesterol meds
box of waterproof matches
rain poncho
change of clothes, including socks
spare debit card and my "for emergencies only" credit card
$50 cash in small bills (change might be difficult in a major emergency)
a large first aid kit

The only two likely scenarios are earthquake and fire. When the fire alarm
in my building goes off (which happens with annoying frequency), I grab my
bag and my mud shoes (kept next to the door, for when I need footwear that
can get muddy) and head out. In the case of earthquake, I will either be in
my bedroom or in the living room right next to the kitchen, where I have
various other supplies.

Reading what others have written, I will be adding hat, gloves and a small
transistor radio to my pack (how could I have overlooked those?!) I'm tempted
to keep my passport there, as backup identification. My prescriptions are all
at a major chain pharmacy that boasts a national prescription database, so I
don't think I will have trouble getting refils unless LOTS of bad things
happen.
Now that I think about weather issues, an umbrella would probably not be a bad
idea, seeing as I live in Seattle.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.

User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 04:36:05 PM
Gregory Gadow wrote:

You've forgotten to keep it accessable. It is in the garage; what do you do
if the garage collapses or access to there is otherwise restricted?

That's why I figured the very front of the garage would be a good
place. It's one-story and not near any other large structures so, even
if it collapses, I should be able to get to the cabinet in the front.
(Maybe I should put it in the *back* of the garage. That way, if it
collapses, the door - a relatively solid piece of wood - wouldn't block
the way. The back wall, if it crumbled, would be much easier to get
through.)

Rather than a single, large kit, have several smaller caches around your
home. Have a school type backpack (so it can be grabbed easily) with food,
water, a batteryless flashlight and a whistle in every bedroom, either in
the closet or under the bed. If possible, get one for each of the room's
residents, preferably in a "grab and go" backpack. The bag can also contain
a change of clothes, toiletries, spare medicine, etc for the person.

Keep another in the main room of the house, in a closet or under an
end-table. If it is at the other end of the home from the kitchen, include
some food, water and a flashlight with it. That one should also have a good
quality first aid kit, including things like an ace bandage, sling,
splints, etc. If anyone takes meds, keep a three or four day backup supply
here, as well as in their personal bag.

Set up a schedule to check the supplies and replace anything that has
become out of date. That is also a good time to make sure that everyone in
your household knows where are the supplies and what to do in an emergency.
The start and end of daylight savings time has become the standard time of
checking home safety (such as making sure your smoke detectors are still
working.)

These are all very good suggestions but, being a neat freak, I'm not
sure I could actually stand the thought of all that stuff just lying
around the house. I'm rather a minimalist decorator as it is. (You're
"backpack" suggestion is a good one, though. What I can't see under
the bed won't bother me.)

Lastly, it certainly would not hurt to have as many people as possible take
a class at the YMCA about basic first aid. A lot of it is not as intuitive
as you would hope.

Another good suggestion.

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


I have an one bedroom apartment on the top floor of a four story building.
I keep a backpack underneath my night stand (a former end-table) that
contains:

emergency blanket
1# bag of beef jerkey, commercially sealed
1# bag of granola, home vacuum sealed
2 1 liter bottles of water, commercially sealed
chemical light sticks in several colors
whistle
3 day backup supply of my allergy, diabetes and high cholesterol meds
box of waterproof matches
rain poncho
change of clothes, including socks
spare debit card and my "for emergencies only" credit card
$50 cash in small bills (change might be difficult in a major emergency)
a large first aid kit

You can fit all of that in a backpack!? Wow.

The only two likely scenarios are earthquake and fire. When the fire alarm
in my building goes off (which happens with annoying frequency), I grab my
bag and my mud shoes (kept next to the door, for when I need footwear that
can get muddy) and head out. In the case of earthquake, I will either be in
my bedroom or in the living room right next to the kitchen, where I have
various other supplies.

Good tips. Especially the keeping the shoes by the door thing. And
cash! How could I have forgotten!! I might have to try those. And
I'll seriously think about the others. (Since this is a very good time
of year to get a good deal on backpacks.)
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 13 Sep 2005 08:50:34 AM
Auntie Lib wrote:

Gregory Gadow wrote:

I have an one bedroom apartment on the top floor of a four story building.
I keep a backpack underneath my night stand (a former end-table) that
contains:

emergency blanket
1# bag of beef jerkey, commercially sealed
1# bag of granola, home vacuum sealed
2 1 liter bottles of water, commercially sealed
chemical light sticks in several colors
whistle
3 day backup supply of my allergy, diabetes and high cholesterol meds
box of waterproof matches
rain poncho
change of clothes, including socks
spare debit card and my "for emergencies only" credit card
$50 cash in small bills (change might be difficult in a major emergency)
a large first aid kit


You can fit all of that in a backpack!? Wow.

Heh, experience as a backpacker :-)
Actually, the bulkiest thing in the water. Second bulkiest is the clothes; I got
them from a company that sells travel gear, so they pack in a tiny space. The
emergency blanket is one of those mylar ones, which uses infrared reflection
rather than insulation; I could fit that in my pants pocket. The poncho is
basically a diamond of nylon with a hood melted on; it also folds very small. The
meds are in the lid of a collapsable cup.
It's all in the planning.

The only two likely scenarios are earthquake and fire. When the fire alarm
in my building goes off (which happens with annoying frequency), I grab my
bag and my mud shoes (kept next to the door, for when I need footwear that
can get muddy) and head out. In the case of earthquake, I will either be in
my bedroom or in the living room right next to the kitchen, where I have
various other supplies.


Good tips. Especially the keeping the shoes by the door thing. And
cash! How could I have forgotten!! I might have to try those. And
I'll seriously think about the others. (Since this is a very good time
of year to get a good deal on backpacks.)

Cash is important. If there is widespread power outage, ATM machines won't be
working and banks (even if open) won't have access to their network. You should
also keep backup ID for everyone in your kit, too, even if it is an expired
school ID.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.



User: "dh"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 09 Sep 2005 08:23:08 PM
If you're going to have dehydrated food that requires boiled water to
"resuscitate," you'll want a pot and a stove. You can get really tiny
stoves that run on small gas cylinders or what's called "white gas" at
outdoor stores.
You'll need to keep an eye on expiration dates for some of these things.
"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1126313222.361216.67350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

.
User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 03:56:10 PM
dh wrote:

If you're going to have dehydrated food that requires boiled water to
"resuscitate," you'll want a pot and a stove. You can get really tiny
stoves that run on small gas cylinders or what's called "white gas" at
outdoor stores.

Good point. I was thinking more along the lines of stuff that the
military uses that you eat without heating. Either open and eat (bars
and such) or just add water. But still, I hadn't thought about a camp
stove. I'll add that to the list.

You'll need to keep an eye on expiration dates for some of these things.

I'm going to put a great big "October" and "April" on the cabinet to
remind me to rotate things once every six months. The cat food, the
water and the medecines, at the very least, will need to be replaced.
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 12:26:38 PM
In <1126313222.361216.67350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Auntie Lib"
<wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote:

If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

One comment I want to toss in here. I'm not sure how you would deal with
it since earthquakes are unpredictable but one thing I failed to do in all
the chaos was to get hold of paper copies of prescriptions.
Now, I have the roommate "stocked up" as much as three months ahead. So
nothing critical happened. But the pharmacy that has one of his important
(but not "he'll die without") medications is in Kenner and may not even
*exist anymore.
Also, nobody's heard from his doctor since the storm. *Nobody. It's
disturbing. Her office was in a complex connected to Baptist Memorial
Hospital near the Garden District. I'm sure she was in there, helping
patients right up to the last second.
I'm hoping she's okay. Just for some weird reason unable to get hold of
anybody but even her medical group hasn't heard from her. After family,
they'd be the next people she'd get hold of if she's alive and able.
I am worried. She's a damn good doctor and a good person. She'd be a
terrible loss for so many people who she cared for. It's a depressing
thought.
Anyway...
Back up copies of prescriptions for critical medications! Talk to your
doctor(s) and ask them how you could do that. In a serious disaster, the
pharmacy that holds your prescriptions could simply *vanish and even if
your doctor(s) survive, they could be swamped in the relief effort and
impossible to get hold of.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
.

User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 09 Sep 2005 09:39:30 PM
In article <1126313222.361216.67350
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Auntie Lib said...

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 12:18:33 PM
Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in
news:MPG.1d8c116b939eb8c39897f0@newsgroups.comcast.net:

In article <1126313222.361216.67350
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Auntie Lib said...

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?

Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a young and
arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 04:19:39 PM
Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a young and
arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.

Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by any
chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.
Heh. I guess making people laugh is just as important during a
disaster as it is any other time. Thanks.
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 07:59:59 PM
"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in
news:1126559979.255171.318980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a
young and arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.


Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by
any chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.

I think we all have the smart-***** gene =D

Heh. I guess making people laugh is just as important during a
disaster as it is any other time. Thanks.

Y'r welcome!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 13 Sep 2005 08:23:15 AM
"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CFCBB791368askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...

"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in
news:1126559979.255171.318980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a
young and arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.


Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by
any chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.


I think we all have the smart-***** gene =D

I know *I* do. Got it from the biomum and passed it onto the witchling. Be
afraid, be very afraid ;)
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 13 Sep 2005 06:10:55 PM
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:23:15 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CFCBB791368askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...

"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in
news:1126559979.255171.318980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a
young and arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.


Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by
any chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.


I think we all have the smart-***** gene =D


I know *I* do. Got it from the biomum and passed it onto the witchling. Be
afraid, be very afraid ;)

I was raised by a Brit. Smart-assedness is both cultural and genetic.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 14 Sep 2005 08:29:28 AM
Douglas Berry wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:23:15 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CFCBB791368askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...

"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in
news:1126559979.255171.318980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a
young and arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.


Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by
any chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.


I think we all have the smart-***** gene =D


I know *I* do. Got it from the biomum and passed it onto the witchling. Be
afraid, be very afraid ;)


I was raised by a Brit. Smart-assedness is both cultural and genetic.

Except that most Brits can be a smart ***** and leave you thinking you've been
discussing deep philosophical matters. American smart assedness makes you *know*
you've been smart-assed.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 14 Sep 2005 08:45:14 AM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:29:28 -0700 in alt.atheism, Gregory Gadow
(Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism

Douglas Berry wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:23:15 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CFCBB791368askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...

"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in
news:1126559979.255171.318980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Doc Smartass wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a
young and arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.


Hey, Doc? Doug Berry... Jos Flachs... Brian Clark... Couldn't, by
any chance, be your offspring, could they? 'Cuz they've all done you
proud. True-blue Smartasses, all.


I think we all have the smart-***** gene =D


I know *I* do. Got it from the biomum and passed it onto the witchling. Be
afraid, be very afraid ;)


I was raised by a Brit. Smart-assedness is both cultural and genetic.

Really, he said riding back a message?
Do tell!
Though I very much suspect Doug/s mother was in fact Julie Andrews.

Except that most Brits can be a smart ***** and leave you thinking you've been
discussing deep philosophical matters. American smart assedness makes you *know*
you've been smart-assed.

You want to try Moroccan smart-arse's. But then the ways in which one
can be blind sided are infinite, until one has the metier in hand. And
sometimes even then.
Which is of course, what makes it such fun.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.co.uk/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 14 Sep 2005 05:05:20 PM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:14 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:29:28 -0700 in alt.atheism, Gregory Gadow
(Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism

Douglas Berry wrote:

I was raised by a Brit. Smart-assedness is both cultural and genetic.


Really, he said riding back a message?

Do tell!

Dad was from an upper-middle class military family (grandfather was
Colonel Sir Edward Douglas Berry, KBE) so I was raised with a dry
British sense of humor.

Though I very much suspect Doug/s mother was in fact Julie Andrews.

Ever see Grease? My mom was the Betty Rizzo of her school. Made
being a rebellious teen difficult, since how could I top a mother who
had a party raided by twenty cops in 1953?

Except that most Brits can be a smart ***** and leave you thinking you've been
discussing deep philosophical matters. American smart assedness makes you *know*
you've been smart-assed.


You want to try Moroccan smart-arse's. But then the ways in which one
can be blind sided are infinite, until one has the metier in hand. And
sometimes even then.

Which is of course, what makes it such fun.

Indeed.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 15 Sep 2005 05:12:47 AM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:05:20 GMT in alt.atheism, Douglas Berry
(Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:14 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:29:28 -0700 in alt.atheism, Gregory Gadow
(Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism

Douglas Berry wrote:

I was raised by a Brit. Smart-assedness is both cultural and genetic.


Really, he said riding back a message?

Do tell!


Dad was from an upper-middle class military family (grandfather was
Colonel Sir Edward Douglas Berry, KBE)

Ah ha! The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Knight
Commander of the Empire!

so I was raised with a dry British sense of humor.

Might this have had some influence on your decision to join the army?

Though I very much suspect Doug/s mother was in fact Julie Andrews.


Ever see Grease? My mom was the Betty Rizzo of her school. Made
being a rebellious teen difficult, since how could I top a mother who
had a party raided by twenty cops in 1953?

Now *that* is excellent. Did they escape with their lives?

Except that most Brits can be a smart ***** and leave you thinking you've been
discussing deep philosophical matters. American smart assedness makes you *know*
you've been smart-assed.


You want to try Moroccan smart-arse's. But then the ways in which one
can be blind sided are infinite, until one has the metier in hand. And
sometimes even then.

Which is of course, what makes it such fun.


Indeed.

.








User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 15 Sep 2005 08:05:06 PM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:18:33 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:

Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in
news:MPG.1d8c116b939eb8c39897f0@newsgroups.comcast.net:

In article <1126313222.361216.67350
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Auntie Lib said...

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?


Those are mostly fat & gristle; I'd recommend "Thunderbird" or a young and
arrogant Mad Dog 20/20, chilled.

Venusian Thunder-Ripple age 30 seconds....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "Jos Flachs - skip the aa"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 04:57:57 AM
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:39:30 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:

In article <1126313222.361216.67350
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Auntie Lib said...

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?


Cannibalism. I will start with those neighbors who insist on
mowing their laws at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday mornings. Does anyone
know which wine goes with "nuclear engineer"?

Is he Caucasian? A white wine, in that case.
.


User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 03:21:28 AM
In article <1126313222.361216.67350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Auntie Lib <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote:

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

Your primary concerns in a survival situation will be food, water,
clothing, shelter, fire and self-defence. For clothes, a hat and gloves
are your two most important items in addition to a heavy coat and
waterproof windbreaker.
I would have a mix of dehydrated and solid food, like MREs or cans of
Dinty Moore Stew which is heavy in carbs, protein and fat. Dehydrated
food requires water to reconstitute it, and is only advantageous if you
have to be mobile. A portable water filter can be handy if your only
choice is to drink water from questionable sources.
I always keep a "space blanket" in my car, which is a lightweight,
waterproof plastic blanket with an aluminum lining that can fit in any
woman's purse or your glove compartment and which can keep you dry as
well as help you retain up to 70 percent of your body heat. In addition
I keep a US-Army issue lightweight poncho which can double as a
lean-to, and also a "poncho liner," which is also very lightweight,
very comfortable, and will keep you toasty in any temperature above
freezing, and surviving in anything above zero. I sleep with one every
night. Better yet a full-size sleeping bag if you live in an area where
it gets real cold, and one rated for severe temperatures if that's the
case. Some of them are convertible between severe cold use and have
liners that can be removed for warmer temps. I would also keep at least
50 ft of good solid cord handy as well as a Swiss Army Knife and a
machete, which is very effective for cutting kindling and wood for
fires--not to mention self-defense.
Lots of people say keep matches, but I also keep a box of lighters on
hand, as it's a helluva lot easier to light a fire with a Bic lighter
than with matches. You might also consider a large, modern backpack
that transfers the weight onto your hips in case you need to move and
carry a lot of items with you.
And last but not least I would get a gun, preferably a lightweight
assault rifle that uses 5.56 ammo, as well as a pistol as it can be
concealed. Whatever one's feelings are about guns, there is little
doubt that in a total breakdown of civil order as we saw in New
Orleans, its is a sad and terrible reality that you will likely be on
your own as far as self-defence is concerned, and an assault rifle will
give you an edge over anyone armed with a pistol or knife.
US Cavalry and Cabela's are good places to get a lot of this stuff.
http://uscavalry.com
http://www.cabelas.com
Sean C
.
User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 04:12:57 PM
Sean C wrote:

Your primary concerns in a survival situation will be food, water,
clothing, shelter, fire and self-defence. For clothes, a hat and gloves
are your two most important items in addition to a heavy coat and
waterproof windbreaker.

<snipped the rest>
You had some good suggestions. I'm going to implement some of them.
Not the machete or the guns, though. I have a feeling that, with my
luck, such items would only help to arm my neighbors and not do a damn
bit of good protecting ME.
You're right at least that civil unrest, in a time of disaster, is a
very real possibility. Even in your more upscale environments. I'll
have to give some thought as to how I'm going to protect myself and my
loved ones if we are attacked by our neighbors. (And the cat takes a
powder.)
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
.


User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 09 Sep 2005 09:21:14 PM
On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

Wild looting.
Seriously, we have an earthquake kit much like you describe. For some
good suggestions, check out some of the packing lists online for
Burning Man.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 09 Sep 2005 08:57:04 PM
On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one,
then you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is
a ticket to eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God
gives me a mind capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned
if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

You might want to get a cat carrier so you can evacuate with your cat
more easily.
Do you have an emergency kit at the office? A pair of shoes you can
walk long distances or run in? Some water, food? A battery radio?
.
User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 04:03:44 PM
Kate wrote:

You might want to get a cat carrier so you can evacuate with your cat
more easily.

By "crate" in my original post I meant one of those plastic and metal
pet carriers that I use only once a year to take the cat to the vet. I
can get it just as easily from the garage as from the hall closet.

Do you have an emergency kit at the office? A pair of shoes you can
walk long distances or run in? Some water, food? A battery radio?

The office... hmmmm. First aid kit, flashlight and radio - yes. Shoes
- no. Water and food - yes but not in an easily-portable form.
(Jot that down on the list: Office Survival Stuff. Thanks.)
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 08:00:00 AM
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:57:04 -0500, Kate wrote
(in article <434f3c88.185776031@news-west.newscene.com>):

On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

I was wondering, while watching news footage of people stranded on the
roofs of their submerged houses, if those who live in places where
hurricanes and/or flooding are common have been told how to prepare
survival kits?

I live in Southern California. I don't live where I'd have to worry
about fires that much. The Santa Ana winds can be fierce but they have
yet to blow down a house. (I think.) Last year's record rains made me
at least *consider* what I'd do if my street flooded but it was a
pretty remote possiblity.

What I need to prepare for is an earthquake. The Gulf Coast disaster
has spurred all of the news shows to start talking about preparing for
disasters and they're showing some pretty nifty gadgets. I live on the
second floor of a small apartment building so my biggest problem
(besides just having to live for awhile without electricity or other
services) will probably be building collapse or major damage. I
already keep candles, matches, flashlights and a battery-powered radio
on hand and anything else I might need is already in my apartment.

I'm going to get one of those Rubbermade cabinets and put it in my
garage, near the front. (One story. Nothing near it so I should be
able to dig out my supplies fairly easily.) I'm going to have on hand:

A crate for my cat (who'da thought?) filled with a supply of her food,
a large bottle of water, collapsible bowls (way cool!) a leash (for a
*cat*! I know...) and a small blankie.

For me:
A crank radio (terrific little gadget that doesn't use batteries, you
just crank it)
Crank flashlight (ditto)
Disposable cell phone batteries (cheap and easy to store)
3 or 4 gallon jugs of water
Dehydrated camp food
Camp cooking utensils
Flushable wipes (instead of bulky toilet paper)
Travel toothpaste/toothbrush/floss
Travel soap/shampoo
Personal doo-dads (you know what I'm talkin' about)
Comb
Deoderant (one must remain civilized)
Ibuprofin
Band Aids
Neosporin
Anti-diarheal (the serious kind)
A change of clothes
Shoes (maybe instead of throwing out my worn-out running shoes)
Socks
Blanket
Pad of paper and pencils
A deck of cards
Paperbacks (I don't go anywhere - even an evacuation - without
something to read!)
If I needed any, I'd have my prescription meds

This pre-supposes that I'll grab my backpack with my wallet and cell
phone but I figure I can fit most of that in a large bin and can load
up my car (conveniently situated in front of - instead of in - the
garage when I'm home) at a moment's notice. (Catching the damn cat
might be a problem.) If I'm not at home when disaster strikes... I
hope someone *else* can use the stuff.

Anything I've forgotten?

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

elizabeth
aa#2098
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"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one,
then you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is
a ticket to eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God
gives me a mind capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned
if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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You might want to get a cat carrier so you can evacuate with your cat
more easily.

Do you have an emergency kit at the office? A pair of shoes you can
walk long distances or run in? Some water, food? A battery radio?

Water purification items, there are filters and tablets, it is rather handy
to have both.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
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"I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things, but I've never heard myself
think." - Duke32
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User: "Auntie Lib"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 12 Sep 2005 03:59:47 PM
Harry F. Leopold wrote:

Water purification items, there are filters and tablets, it is rather handy
to have both.

Another good idea. (Plus, they're small and won't take up much space.)
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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User: "Jos Flachs - skip the aa"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 04:57:57 AM
On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

A 7 D cell aluminum flashlight. Then beat you up , and take your
survival stuff. ;-)
I'd love to have an AR10 "Survival Rifle" (or is it AR7?), but
unfortunately.... like most civilized nations we cannot own firearms
here.
Anyway, after the Zealand disaster in 1953 (where the nearly the whole
province of Zealand plus a lot more got flushed away) many farmers put
a boat on the attic. Very rarely you can see one there, even now.
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User: "WCB"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 10 Sep 2005 06:13:37 PM
- skip the aa wrote:

On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

A 7 D cell aluminum flashlight. Then beat you up , and take your
survival stuff. ;-)

Don't bring a flashlight to a disaster where the survivors carry Glocks.

I'd love to have an AR10 "Survival Rifle" (or is it AR7?), but
unfortunately.... like most civilized nations we cannot own firearms
here.

Learn to throw a boomarang.


Anyway, after the Zealand disaster in 1953 (where the nearly the whole
province of Zealand plus a lot more got flushed away) many farmers put
a boat on the attic. Very rarely you can see one there, even now.

--
"Today the official spokesman for the Foxes
agreed an investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed."
Cheerful Charlie
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Disaster Survival Kit 15 Sep 2005 07:13:51 PM
On 9 Sep 2005 17:47:02 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

What's YOUR disaster survival plan?

Keep FEMA far far far far away.
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