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Religions > Atheism |
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"Jason Spaceman" |
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14 Dec 2004 05:37:39 PM |
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Discovery Institute asks Dover to back down |
From the article:
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SEATTLE, DEC. 14 – The policy on teaching evolution recently adopted
by the Dover, PA School Board was called "misguided" today by
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, which advised
that the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten.
"While the Dover board is to be commended for trying to teach
Darwinian theory in a more open-minded manner, this is the wrong way
to go about it," said Dr. John G. West, associate director of
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC). "Dover's
current policy has a number of problems, not the least of which is its
lack of clarity. At one point, it appears to prohibit Dover schools
from teaching anything about 'the origins of life.' At another point,
it appears to both mandate as well as prohibit the teaching of the
scientific theory of intelligent design. The policy's incoherence
raises serious problems from the standpoint of constitutional law.
Thus, the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten."
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Read it at
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2341&program=CSC%20-%20Views%20and%20News&callingPage=discoMainPage
or http://tinyurl.com/447c3
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Discovery Institute asks Dover to back down |
14 Dec 2004 07:25:33 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:c4vur01nv5j4hbkoh8u2g6psuvi87tsfqk@4ax.com...
From the article:
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SEATTLE, DEC. 14 - The policy on teaching evolution recently adopted
by the Dover, PA School Board was called "misguided" today by
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, which advised
that the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten.
"While the Dover board is to be commended for trying to teach
Darwinian theory in a more open-minded manner, this is the wrong way
to go about it," said Dr. John G. West, associate director of
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC). "Dover's
current policy has a number of problems, not the least of which is its
lack of clarity. At one point, it appears to prohibit Dover schools
from teaching anything about 'the origins of life.' At another point,
it appears to both mandate as well as prohibit the teaching of the
scientific theory of intelligent design. The policy's incoherence
raises serious problems from the standpoint of constitutional law.
Thus, the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten."
intelligence
ability to adapt effectively to the environment, either by making a change
in oneself or by changing the environment or finding a new one.
I still don't understand intelligent design. If we can't design it, what
makes anyone think intelligence is necessary? The universe is so complex it
apears to be beyond intelligence. Even if it were based on an intelligent
design, why would the design be any more than a blueprint. Even with a
blueprint for a design, that is not a working model. So even if there was an
intelligent design, why would it actually work , i.e., be working in
practice? To build soemthing you have to have raw materials.
What is intelligence? I always thought intelligence was the "ability to
adapt effectively to the environment, either by making a change in oneself
or by changing the environment or finding a new one". (From the Encylopedia
Britannica)
Whatever your definition of intelligence, it seems to be defined in human
terms. It is an adaptation to the world, and that human intelligence, by
itself can only deal with matter that exists. So how could intelligence by
itself create anything out of nothing? It would therefore seem that
intelligent design of the world, would depend upon an all-powerful entity,
not only intelligent but able to create matter, in order for the world to
actually be a working model rather than just a theory. So that teaching
intelligent design in the public schools by people paid throug our tax
money, would mean teaching the existence of God with public funds (since an
all-powerful Entity would have to create the world, if it were based on a
blueprint).
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "EjP" |
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| Title: Re: Discovery Institute asks Dover to back down |
15 Dec 2004 02:51:56 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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SEATTLE, DEC. 14 – The policy on teaching evolution recently adopted
by the Dover, PA School Board was called "misguided" today by
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, which advised
that the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten.
"While the Dover board is to be commended for trying to teach
Darwinian theory in a more open-minded manner, this is the wrong way
to go about it," said Dr. John G. West, associate director of
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC). "Dover's
current policy has a number of problems, not the least of which is its
lack of clarity. At one point, it appears to prohibit Dover schools
from teaching anything about 'the origins of life.' At another point,
it appears to both mandate as well as prohibit the teaching of the
scientific theory of intelligent design. The policy's incoherence
raises serious problems from the standpoint of constitutional law.
Thus, the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten."
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Translation: The Discovery Institute had their bluff called. The
minute a school district tried to mandate the teaching of
"Intelligent Design", they had to admit that there was actually
nothing to teach.
-E
Read it at
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2341&program=CSC%20-%20Views%20and%20News&callingPage=discoMainPage
or http://tinyurl.com/447c3
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Discovery Institute asks Dover to back down |
14 Dec 2004 10:52:57 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:37:39 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:
"While the Dover board is to be commended for trying to teach
Darwinian theory in a more open-minded manner, this is the wrong way
to go about it," said Dr. John G. West, associate director of
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC). "Dover's
current policy has a number of problems, not the least of which is its
lack of clarity. At one point, it appears to prohibit Dover schools
from teaching anything about 'the origins of life.' At another point,
it appears to both mandate as well as prohibit the teaching of the
scientific theory of intelligent design. The policy's incoherence
raises serious problems from the standpoint of constitutional law.
Pretty good indictment of ID.
Thus, the policy should be withdrawn and rewritten."
Or just scrapped, so the school board can get on with its real job -
*educating* children.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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