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"Elroy Willis" |
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06 Mar 2005 10:20:31 AM |
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Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
Check out this video:
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/divingdog.wmv
How different is this dog from a transitional seal-like canine
which dives for fish instead of rocks?
It can hold its breath for 45 seconds, and can dive up to 10
feet deep so far. If it had pups and they saw their mother diving
for rocks or fish, would the pups imitate her behaviour?
The dog shown is some kind of pit-bull cross-breed, and I wonder if
it was cross-bred with another kind of dog which has more webbed
feet, such as a lab, if the offspring could dive even deeper...
I've never examined the feet of a pit-bull, and wonder exactly how
webbed the feet really are. Anyone around here with a pit bull?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 11:58:57 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Check out this video:
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/divingdog.wmv
How different is this dog from a transitional seal-like canine
which dives for fish instead of rocks?
It can hold its breath for 45 seconds, and can dive up to 10
feet deep so far. If it had pups and they saw their mother diving
for rocks or fish, would the pups imitate her behaviour?
The dog shown is some kind of pit-bull cross-breed, and I wonder if
it was cross-bred with another kind of dog which has more webbed
feet, such as a lab, if the offspring could dive even deeper...
I've never examined the feet of a pit-bull, and wonder exactly how
webbed the feet really are. Anyone around here with a pit bull?
I remeber seeing a TV show onbears. Bears of course in Alaska and
elsewhere are known for fish catching abilities. One grizzley bear at on
site would actually swim into deeper pools and dive for fish.
So its not at all unknown for carnivores to take to water.
And in Argentina, there is a small cat that will swim and dive for fish.
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Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 12:13:53 PM |
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wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Check out this video:
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/divingdog.wmv
How different is this dog from a transitional seal-like canine
which dives for fish instead of rocks?
It can hold its breath for 45 seconds, and can dive up to 10
feet deep so far. If it had pups and they saw their mother diving
for rocks or fish, would the pups imitate her behaviour?
The dog shown is some kind of pit-bull cross-breed, and I wonder if
it was cross-bred with another kind of dog which has more webbed
feet, such as a lab, if the offspring could dive even deeper...
I've never examined the feet of a pit-bull, and wonder exactly how
webbed the feet really are. Anyone around here with a pit bull?
I remeber seeing a TV show onbears. Bears of course in Alaska and
elsewhere are known for fish catching abilities. One grizzley bear at on
site would actually swim into deeper pools and dive for fish.
Polar bears are actually considered aquatic animals by many
people today, since they also can dive under water to catch
seals and fish, and can swim for miles and miles in the water
while chasing or looking for food.
So its not at all unknown for carnivores to take to water.
Indeed.
And in Argentina, there is a small cat that will swim and dive for fish.
I'd like to see some videos of such cats. Do you know of any that I
can download?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Rally" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 12:42:53 PM |
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I'd like to see some videos of such cats. Do you know of any that I
can download?
Here is a site that has a video of the "fishing cat". I didn't watch the
whole thing, but it is neat to see.
http://tinyurl.com/4576l
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 10:08:56 PM |
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:42:53 -0600, Rally wrote
(in article <422b4fd7$1_2@127.0.0.1>):
I'd like to see some videos of such cats. Do you know of any that I
can download?
Here is a site that has a video of the "fishing cat". I didn't watch the
whole thing, but it is neat to see.
http://tinyurl.com/4576l
Thanks for the link, I enjoyed it. (Tiffany, however, thinks it must be a
lie, no real cat would willingly get wet, and she, being a REAL (trademark)
cat, never likes getting damp. She also is rather unmindful of the "No true
Scotsman" argument, but than she is a cat, what do they know about logic?)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
07 Mar 2005 06:57:58 AM |
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Rally <Rally_Round@mail.barf.newsfeeds.com> wrote in alt.atheism
I'd like to see some videos of such cats. Do you know of any that I
can download?
Here is a site that has a video of the "fishing cat". I didn't watch the
whole thing, but it is neat to see.
http://tinyurl.com/4576l
Pretty cool. I didn't expect to see the cat actually stick its head
under water.
Here's one of my cat fishing in the sink for scallops.
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/sinkfishing.wmv
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 03:27:40 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Check out this video:
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/divingdog.wmv
How different is this dog from a transitional seal-like canine
which dives for fish instead of rocks?
It can hold its breath for 45 seconds, and can dive up to 10
feet deep so far. If it had pups and they saw their mother diving
for rocks or fish, would the pups imitate her behaviour?
The dog shown is some kind of pit-bull cross-breed, and I wonder if
it was cross-bred with another kind of dog which has more webbed
feet, such as a lab, if the offspring could dive even deeper...
I've never examined the feet of a pit-bull, and wonder exactly how
webbed the feet really are. Anyone around here with a pit bull?
I remeber seeing a TV show onbears. Bears of course in Alaska and
elsewhere are known for fish catching abilities. One grizzley bear at on
site would actually swim into deeper pools and dive for fish.
Polar bears are actually considered aquatic animals by many
people today, since they also can dive under water to catch
seals and fish, and can swim for miles and miles in the water
while chasing or looking for food.
So its not at all unknown for carnivores to take to water.
Indeed.
And in Argentina, there is a small cat that will swim and dive for fish.
I'd like to see some videos of such cats. Do you know of any that I
can download?
Nope. Many of the smaller cats of SA are not well known
and not well studied.
Another surprising aquatic animal are elephants. In
the far East, they have been known to swim as far as 50 miles
between islands in Indonesia. No one is sure how they navigate
in such situations.
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Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 09:29:48 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 15:27:40 -0600, wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
Another surprising aquatic animal are elephants. In
the far East, they have been known to swim as far as 50 miles
between islands in Indonesia. No one is sure how they navigate
in such situations.
That is really cool, because they don't know how homo florensiensis
made it to Flores from Java, though there were dwarf elephants on
Flores that the dwarf humans lived off of. Homo erectus might have
had elephants domesticated on Java and then rode them to Flores.
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 06:51:33 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:20:31 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Check out this video:
http://www.elroysemporium.com/videos/divingdog.wmv
How different is this dog from a transitional seal-like canine
which dives for fish instead of rocks?
It can hold its breath for 45 seconds, and can dive up to 10
feet deep so far. If it had pups and they saw their mother diving
for rocks or fish, would the pups imitate her behaviour?
The dog shown is some kind of pit-bull cross-breed, and I wonder if
it was cross-bred with another kind of dog which has more webbed
feet, such as a lab, if the offspring could dive even deeper...
I've never examined the feet of a pit-bull, and wonder exactly how
webbed the feet really are. Anyone around here with a pit bull?
Don't currently have one. Too much trouble. Not that they
all maul the neighbor's children, but when they're young,
they do like to chew. With those jaws, well, you can
imagine. My friend's literally ate his garage steps. I can
tell you that the paws are not paricularly webbed.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Diving Dog = Proof of Evolution? |
06 Mar 2005 05:21:57 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:20:31 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Proof of evolution? I guess you're getting desperate to get people to read you
"stuff', eh le roi?
duke
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