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Dixie courthouse unveils the 10 C. |
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061128/LOCAL/211280341/1078/rss
[excerpt]
Dixie courthouse unveils the Ten Commandments
By KAREN VOYLES
Sun staff writer
November 28. 2006 6:01AM
CROSS CITY - Dozens of county residents took a few extra minutes on the way
home from church Sunday or on the way to work Monday morning to drive past
the Dixie County courthouse to see for themselves if what they had heard
was true.
It was.
A six-ton block of granite bearing the Ten Commandments had been installed
atop the courthouse steps. Inscribed at the base was the admonition to
"Love God and keep his commandments."
"There are no negatives there to live by," said Skipper Jones, former owner
and publisher of the county's weekly newspaper. Jones served as spokesman
Monday for Joe Anderson Jr., one of the leaders of the effort to have the
monument constructed and situated at no cost to the county.
"Mr. Anderson was involved with others and took a very active role in
seeing this was accomplished because he feels this is something the country
needs to get back to," Jones said.
The concept of a Ten Commandments monument was endorsed by county
commissioners, according to the minutes of the Jan. 19 regular board
meeting.
Former Commissioner John Driggers broached the subject on behalf of an
unnamed county resident, asking whether the board was "bold enough" to
allow the monument to be placed at the courthouse. After then-county
attorney Joey Lander told the board he would defend any lawsuits stemming
from the decision for free, commissioners voted in favor of allowing the
project to proceed.
Although Lander has resigned as county attorney, he told The Sun on Monday
afternoon that he would uphold his offer.
"I will gladly represent them for free but I wouldn't want to challenge
someone to file a lawsuit," Lander said. "If the commissioners were willing
to make the bold statement, I am willing to do my part to represent the
county in their bid to keep them (the commandments) there."
[end excerpt]
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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30 Nov 2006 03:11:01 AM |
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http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20061128/LOCAL/21=
1280341/1078/rss
[excerpt]
Dixie courthouse unveils the Ten Commandments
By KAREN VOYLES
Sun staff writer
November 28. 2006 6:01AM
CROSS CITY - Dozens of county residents took a few extra minutes on the w=
ay
home from church Sunday or on the way to work Monday morning to drive past
the Dixie County courthouse to see for themselves if what they had heard
was true.
It was.
A six-ton block of granite bearing the Ten Commandments had been installed
atop the courthouse steps. Inscribed at the base was the admonition to
"Love God and keep his commandments."
"There are no negatives there to live by," said Skipper Jones, former own=
er
and publisher of the county's weekly newspaper. Jones served as spokesman
Monday for Joe Anderson Jr., one of the leaders of the effort to have the
monument constructed and situated at no cost to the county.
"Mr. Anderson was involved with others and took a very active role in
seeing this was accomplished because he feels this is something the count=
ry
needs to get back to," Jones said.
The concept of a Ten Commandments monument was endorsed by county
commissioners, according to the minutes of the Jan. 19 regular board
meeting.
Former Commissioner John Driggers broached the subject on behalf of an
unnamed county resident, asking whether the board was "bold enough" to
allow the monument to be placed at the courthouse. After then-county
attorney Joey Lander told the board he would defend any lawsuits stemming
from the decision for free, commissioners voted in favor of allowing the
project to proceed.
Although Lander has resigned as county attorney, he told The Sun on Monday
afternoon that he would uphold his offer.
"I will gladly represent them for free but I wouldn't want to challenge
someone to file a lawsuit," Lander said. "If the commissioners were willi=
ng
to make the bold statement, I am willing to do my part to represent the
county in their bid to keep them (the commandments) there."
[end excerpt]
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why =
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisne=
r,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Which Ten Commandments are inscribed in the monument? The story doesn't
say, but they are probably the Protestant Ten Commandments.
.
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| User: "lubow" |
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02 Dec 2006 04:24:47 AM |
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Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw around with
the US Constitution?
--
Lubow
<ffranco@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1164877861.545784.119670@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061128/LOCAL/211280341/1078/rss
[excerpt]
Dixie courthouse unveils the Ten Commandments
By KAREN VOYLES
Sun staff writer
November 28. 2006 6:01AM
CROSS CITY - Dozens of county residents took a few extra minutes on the
way
home from church Sunday or on the way to work Monday morning to drive past
the Dixie County courthouse to see for themselves if what they had heard
was true.
It was.
A six-ton block of granite bearing the Ten Commandments had been installed
atop the courthouse steps. Inscribed at the base was the admonition to
"Love God and keep his commandments."
"There are no negatives there to live by," said Skipper Jones, former
owner
and publisher of the county's weekly newspaper. Jones served as spokesman
Monday for Joe Anderson Jr., one of the leaders of the effort to have the
monument constructed and situated at no cost to the county.
"Mr. Anderson was involved with others and took a very active role in
seeing this was accomplished because he feels this is something the
country
needs to get back to," Jones said.
The concept of a Ten Commandments monument was endorsed by county
commissioners, according to the minutes of the Jan. 19 regular board
meeting.
Former Commissioner John Driggers broached the subject on behalf of an
unnamed county resident, asking whether the board was "bold enough" to
allow the monument to be placed at the courthouse. After then-county
attorney Joey Lander told the board he would defend any lawsuits stemming
from the decision for free, commissioners voted in favor of allowing the
project to proceed.
Although Lander has resigned as county attorney, he told The Sun on Monday
afternoon that he would uphold his offer.
"I will gladly represent them for free but I wouldn't want to challenge
someone to file a lawsuit," Lander said. "If the commissioners were
willing
to make the bold statement, I am willing to do my part to represent the
county in their bid to keep them (the commandments) there."
[end excerpt]
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Which Ten Commandments are inscribed in the monument? The story doesn't
say, but they are probably the Protestant Ten Commandments.
.
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| User: "Dana" |
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02 Dec 2006 11:43:27 AM |
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"lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com> wrote in message
news:Pvcch.67$Gp2.64@trndny06...
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw around
with
the US Constitution?
They have not once screwed around with the US Constitution.
They have done everything according to the Constitution.
So why do you hate the Constitution.
--
Lubow
<ffranco@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1164877861.545784.119670@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061128/LOCAL/211280341/1078/rss
[excerpt]
Dixie courthouse unveils the Ten Commandments
By KAREN VOYLES
Sun staff writer
November 28. 2006 6:01AM
CROSS CITY - Dozens of county residents took a few extra minutes on the
way
home from church Sunday or on the way to work Monday morning to drive
past
the Dixie County courthouse to see for themselves if what they had heard
was true.
It was.
A six-ton block of granite bearing the Ten Commandments had been
installed
atop the courthouse steps. Inscribed at the base was the admonition to
"Love God and keep his commandments."
"There are no negatives there to live by," said Skipper Jones, former
owner
and publisher of the county's weekly newspaper. Jones served as
spokesman
Monday for Joe Anderson Jr., one of the leaders of the effort to have
the
monument constructed and situated at no cost to the county.
"Mr. Anderson was involved with others and took a very active role in
seeing this was accomplished because he feels this is something the
country
needs to get back to," Jones said.
The concept of a Ten Commandments monument was endorsed by county
commissioners, according to the minutes of the Jan. 19 regular board
meeting.
Former Commissioner John Driggers broached the subject on behalf of an
unnamed county resident, asking whether the board was "bold enough" to
allow the monument to be placed at the courthouse. After then-county
attorney Joey Lander told the board he would defend any lawsuits
stemming
from the decision for free, commissioners voted in favor of allowing the
project to proceed.
Although Lander has resigned as county attorney, he told The Sun on
Monday
afternoon that he would uphold his offer.
"I will gladly represent them for free but I wouldn't want to challenge
someone to file a lawsuit," Lander said. "If the commissioners were
willing
to make the bold statement, I am willing to do my part to represent the
county in their bid to keep them (the commandments) there."
[end excerpt]
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation
of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members
from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning.
Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Which Ten Commandments are inscribed in the monument? The story doesn't
say, but they are probably the Protestant Ten Commandments.
.
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03 Dec 2006 11:22:23 AM |
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 08:43:27 -0900, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
"lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com> wrote in message
news:Pvcch.67$Gp2.64@trndny06...
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw around
with
the US Constitution?
They have not once screwed around with the US Constitution.
They have done everything according to the Constitution.
So why do you hate the Constitution.
How's the human toilet world?
btw...have you noticed that your "capital gains tax" coupled with you
income tax is less than before?
--
Lubow
<ffranco@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1164877861.545784.119670@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061128/LOCAL/211280341/1078/rss
[excerpt]
Dixie courthouse unveils the Ten Commandments
By KAREN VOYLES
Sun staff writer
November 28. 2006 6:01AM
CROSS CITY - Dozens of county residents took a few extra minutes on the
way
home from church Sunday or on the way to work Monday morning to drive
past
the Dixie County courthouse to see for themselves if what they had heard
was true.
It was.
A six-ton block of granite bearing the Ten Commandments had been
installed
atop the courthouse steps. Inscribed at the base was the admonition to
"Love God and keep his commandments."
"There are no negatives there to live by," said Skipper Jones, former
owner
and publisher of the county's weekly newspaper. Jones served as
spokesman
Monday for Joe Anderson Jr., one of the leaders of the effort to have
the
monument constructed and situated at no cost to the county.
"Mr. Anderson was involved with others and took a very active role in
seeing this was accomplished because he feels this is something the
country
needs to get back to," Jones said.
The concept of a Ten Commandments monument was endorsed by county
commissioners, according to the minutes of the Jan. 19 regular board
meeting.
Former Commissioner John Driggers broached the subject on behalf of an
unnamed county resident, asking whether the board was "bold enough" to
allow the monument to be placed at the courthouse. After then-county
attorney Joey Lander told the board he would defend any lawsuits
stemming
from the decision for free, commissioners voted in favor of allowing the
project to proceed.
Although Lander has resigned as county attorney, he told The Sun on
Monday
afternoon that he would uphold his offer.
"I will gladly represent them for free but I wouldn't want to challenge
someone to file a lawsuit," Lander said. "If the commissioners were
willing
to make the bold statement, I am willing to do my part to represent the
county in their bid to keep them (the commandments) there."
[end excerpt]
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation
of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members
from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning.
Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Which Ten Commandments are inscribed in the monument? The story doesn't
say, but they are probably the Protestant Ten Commandments.
.
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02 Dec 2006 08:52:05 AM |
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
The ACLU got involved in a case in a community near me where the
Christians wanted to set up a nativity creche on the court house
grounds and a local atheist organization wanted to set up next to the
nativity scene a huge wooden sign having quotations from famous
Americans supporting the concept of separation of Church and State.
The ACLU said that they would sue the town if the town would not allow
the Christians AND the atheists or any other philosophical or religious
group to set up a display on the court house grounds, OR disallow
everyone, including the Christians, from doing that. In this case the
Town Council agreed to accede to the demands of the ACLU. The Town
Council decided to allow both the Christians and the atheists to erect
their displays on the court house lawn. The ACLU was OK with the
decision made by the Town Council and they did not sue the town. The
name of the town is Front Royal, VA. The name of the town's most
notable and outspoken atheist is COL Gordon, USAF, retired. He is a
WWII pilot. I don't know if he is still living. His wife is a very
fine Christian lady and she puts up with her husband's pro-atheist
advocacy. He puts up with his wife's Christianity. I used to be
acquainted with the couple. They are very nice folks.
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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02 Dec 2006 11:45:02 AM |
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"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612020844300.22660@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
That is not the belief of the ACLU. The ACLU holds that other beliefs can do
what they want, but Christian belief has to be prosecuted and repressed.
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02 Dec 2006 05:31:32 PM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12n3eorhnd9pd47@corp.supernews.com...
<snip>
That is not the belief of the ACLU. The ACLU holds that other beliefs can
do
what they want, but Christian belief has to be prosecuted and repressed.
Cite, liar.
--
Bob
alt.atheist #2261
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://www.godisimaginary.com
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com
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02 Dec 2006 06:55:54 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 08:45:02 -0900, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612020844300.22660@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
That is not the belief of the ACLU. The ACLU holds that other beliefs can do
what they want, but Christian belief has to be prosecuted and repressed.
Cite?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can
solve them."
-Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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02 Dec 2006 06:32:15 PM |
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The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up. The Extremist
Christians are anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-gun, anti-violance, anti-sex,
anti-nudity, anti-smoking, anti-everything. They believe WE as in all
Americans should suffer as Christs had.
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612020844300.22660@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
The ACLU got involved in a case in a community near me where the
Christians wanted to set up a nativity creche on the court house grounds
and a local atheist organization wanted to set up next to the
nativity scene a huge wooden sign having quotations from famous Americans
supporting the concept of separation of Church and State.
The ACLU said that they would sue the town if the town would not allow
the Christians AND the atheists or any other philosophical or religious
group to set up a display on the court house grounds, OR disallow
everyone, including the Christians, from doing that. In this case the
Town Council agreed to accede to the demands of the ACLU. The Town
Council decided to allow both the Christians and the atheists to erect
their displays on the court house lawn. The ACLU was OK with the
decision made by the Town Council and they did not sue the town. The
name of the town is Front Royal, VA. The name of the town's most
notable and outspoken atheist is COL Gordon, USAF, retired. He is a
WWII pilot. I don't know if he is still living. His wife is a very
fine Christian lady and she puts up with her husband's pro-atheist
advocacy. He puts up with his wife's Christianity. I used to be
acquainted with the couple. They are very nice folks.
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
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The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up
wrong answer.
..>
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612020844300.22660@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
The ACLU got involved in a case in a community near me where the
Christians wanted to set up a nativity creche on the court house grounds
and a local atheist organization wanted to set up next to the
nativity scene a huge wooden sign having quotations from famous
Americans
supporting the concept of separation of Church and State.
The ACLU said that they would sue the town if the town would not allow
the Christians AND the atheists or any other philosophical or religious
group to set up a display on the court house grounds, OR disallow
everyone, including the Christians, from doing that. In this case the
Town Council agreed to accede to the demands of the ACLU. The Town
Council decided to allow both the Christians and the atheists to erect
their displays on the court house lawn. The ACLU was OK with the
decision made by the Town Council and they did not sue the town. The
name of the town is Front Royal, VA. The name of the town's most
notable and outspoken atheist is COL Gordon, USAF, retired. He is a
WWII pilot. I don't know if he is still living. His wife is a very
fine Christian lady and she puts up with her husband's pro-atheist
advocacy. He puts up with his wife's Christianity. I used to be
acquainted with the couple. They are very nice folks.
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:54:58 -0900, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
";-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. >"
<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
news:jWoch.630$kz1.211@trnddc07...
The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up
wrong answer.
So no citation for your assertion about the ACLU, then?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to
the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his
children smart.
- H. L. Mencken
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:54:58 -0900, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
";-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. >"
<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
news:jWoch.630$kz1.211@trnddc07...
The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up
wrong answer.
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Sorry anyone who kneels before another man and takes a man into his
mouth....................is a queer sick *****.
The Christians are the ONLY REASON America is so fucked up. Especially wih a
Evangalistic Born again loser as president.
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12n47uv1rk621dd@corp.supernews.com...
";-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. >"
<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
news:jWoch.630$kz1.211@trnddc07...
The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up
wrong answer.
.>
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612020844300.22660@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw
around with the US Constitution?
<snip>
It is probably perfectly constitutional for the Christians to emplace
a Ten Commandments monument on public property, provided that it would
also be allowed for Humanists, Wiccans, and all other philosophical
and religious groups to set up on public property some monuments
having manifestos of their beliefs. This is the opinion of the ACLU.
The ACLU got involved in a case in a community near me where the
Christians wanted to set up a nativity creche on the court house
grounds
and a local atheist organization wanted to set up next to the
nativity scene a huge wooden sign having quotations from famous
Americans
supporting the concept of separation of Church and State.
The ACLU said that they would sue the town if the town would not allow
the Christians AND the atheists or any other philosophical or religious
group to set up a display on the court house grounds, OR disallow
everyone, including the Christians, from doing that. In this case the
Town Council agreed to accede to the demands of the ACLU. The Town
Council decided to allow both the Christians and the atheists to erect
their displays on the court house lawn. The ACLU was OK with the
decision made by the Town Council and they did not sue the town. The
name of the town is Front Royal, VA. The name of the town's most
notable and outspoken atheist is COL Gordon, USAF, retired. He is a
WWII pilot. I don't know if he is still living. His wife is a very
fine Christian lady and she puts up with her husband's pro-atheist
advocacy. He puts up with his wife's Christianity. I used to be
acquainted with the couple. They are very nice folks.
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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03 Dec 2006 12:39:30 PM |
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<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
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Sorry anyone who kneels before another man and takes a man into his
mouth....................is a queer sick *****.
Well you just described almost all of San Fran, which as we know is quite
leftist.
Hell the left has out of the closet homos as representatives.
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No Texas!
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12n66at5pk2g998@corp.supernews.com...
";-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. >"
<BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com> wrote in message
news:gWpch.737$oC.534@trnddc04...
Sorry anyone who kneels before another man and takes a man into his
mouth....................is a queer sick *****.
Well you just described almost all of San Fran, which as we know is quite
leftist.
Hell the left has out of the closet homos as representatives.
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02 Dec 2006 11:58:54 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:40:28 GMT, ";-\)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ----
....-- -.... ----." <BWAHAHAHhm@ficonetheesixnine.com>> wrote:
Sorry anyone who kneels before another man and takes a man into his
mouth....................is a queer sick *****.
The Christians are the ONLY REASON America is so fucked up. Especially wih a
Evangalistic Born again loser as president.
Not the only reason - homophobes and other bigots screw the country up
pretty well.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
Nothing so completely baffles one who is full of trick and duplicity
himself, than straightforward and simple integrity in another.
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The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up. The Extremist
Christians are anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-gun, anti-violance,
anti-sex, anti-nudity, anti-smoking, anti-everything. They believe WE
as in all Americans should suffer as Christs had.
The truth is that the ten commandments in the court house have nothing to do
with religion.
Somebody told the judge that he could not count to ten and he said he could
to.
20 with his shoes off and 20 1/2 with his pants off.
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, ;-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. wrote:
The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up. The Extremist
Christians are anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-gun, anti-violance,
anti-sex, anti-nudity, anti-smoking, anti-everything. They believe WE
as in all Americans should suffer as Christs had.
The so-called "Extremist Christians" are not anti-gun, and for reason
of their pro-gun stance the conservative and pro-gun candidates
endorsed by the so called "Religious Right" get millions of votes from
NRA members and their supporters and fellow sportsmen. I do not know
of any Christian denomination in the US that wants to oppress our
Second Amendment rights. Most of the Democrats want to oppress our
Second Amendsment rights, but among them there are many noteworthy
exceptions who support those rights. If the anti-Second Amendment
Democrats want to get more votes they would do quite well to renounce
their anti-gun position.
Al Gore lost the 2000 election because of his anti-gun position. Even
Bill Clinton admits that Al Gore lost for that reason. Al Gore needed
only 3 electoral votes to win the election. He failed to carry West
Virginia, which traditionally had always voted Democratic. West
Virginia has three electoral votes. West Virginians are good ole boys
and pistol-packin mommas, and they don't put up with anti-gunners. I
know how West Virginians are because West Virginia is just over the
ridge a few miles to my west. If you don't like President Bush you can
blame Al Gore's extremist anti-gun position and his most apparent
ignorance of how West Virginians are for the reason why Al Gore was not
elected.
<snip>
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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See Sam I know better if you examine the Financial Supporters of the
Anti-Gun Lobbyists it's many of the Christian Family groups. Be Real The
Christian Groups all demanded that everything from dancing and certain types
of music even be banned. They're the ones screaming and crying about video
games. Americans have lost more personal freedoms and liberty's under
Republican lead governments then ANY Democratic. Nixon allowed spying on
your bank accounts, Bush allowed spying on everything else.
Well what would anyone expect but the hillbillies in West Virginny voting
for and electing Bush. Since it's a state, and thier concern with Guns is a
State Issue and Not Federal... Then why elect a Democratic Gov? Huh Gomer?
Not to bright eh?
You can ***** the morons here, but that's about all!
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612022049090.12815@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, ;-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----.
wrote:
The Christians are the REASON America is so fucked up. The Extremist
Christians are anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-gun, anti-violance,
anti-sex, anti-nudity, anti-smoking, anti-everything. They believe WE
as in all Americans should suffer as Christs had.
The so-called "Extremist Christians" are not anti-gun, and for reason of
their pro-gun stance the conservative and pro-gun candidates
endorsed by the so called "Religious Right" get millions of votes from NRA
members and their supporters and fellow sportsmen. I do not know
of any Christian denomination in the US that wants to oppress our
Second Amendment rights. Most of the Democrats want to oppress our
Second Amendsment rights, but among them there are many noteworthy
exceptions who support those rights. If the anti-Second Amendment
Democrats want to get more votes they would do quite well to renounce
their anti-gun position.
Al Gore lost the 2000 election because of his anti-gun position. Even
Bill Clinton admits that Al Gore lost for that reason. Al Gore needed
only 3 electoral votes to win the election. He failed to carry West
Virginia, which traditionally had always voted Democratic. West
Virginia has three electoral votes. West Virginians are good ole boys
and pistol-packin mommas, and they don't put up with anti-gunners. I
know how West Virginians are because West Virginia is just over the
ridge a few miles to my west. If you don't like President Bush you can
blame Al Gore's extremist anti-gun position and his most apparent
ignorance of how West Virginians are for the reason why Al Gore was not
elected.
<snip>
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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02 Dec 2006 11:51:09 PM |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, ;-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----. wrote:
See Sam I know better if you examine the Financial Supporters of the
Anti-Gun Lobbyists it's many of the Christian Family groups. Be Real
Then Christian Groups all demanded that everything from dancing and
certain types of music even be banned. They're the ones screaming and
crying about video games. Americans have lost more personal freedoms and
liberty's under Republican lead governments then ANY Democratic. Nixon
allowed spying on your bank accounts, Bush allowed spying on everything
else.
The IRS has been spying on people's bank accounts ever since the laws
requiring us to pay income tax were enacted.
It is true that the Christian groups of the so-called "religious right"
want to ban "tasteless" music and most video games. Also they want to
ban dancing and liquor, but they do not want to ban guns. Many
Christians like to go hunting and to engage in recreational target
shooting. Also many of them, probably most of them, feel that Americans
have a right to keep a gun handy in their homes in case needed for
self-defense against life-threatening intruders. Most Americans know
that criminals will always have easy access to guns, even if they are
banned. Of course almost everybody can read the truth in the popular
slogan "When guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns."
Well what would anyone expect but the hillbillies in West Virginny
voting for and electing Bush. Since it's a state, and thier concern
with Guns is a State Issue and Not Federal... Then why elect a
Democratic Gov? Huh Gomer? Not to bright eh?
If you had ever read the Second Amendment of the US Constitution you
would know that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is a
federal concern, as well as a concern of the states. Is there some
part in the wording that you don't understand where it says that the
right "shall not be infringed".
Now read this from the National Review:
"West Virginia: Very pro-gun candidate Democrat Joe Manchin won his
first term as governor"
"http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGEwM2JmODM3NjI0YjUwMDJhZDI4Yjc3ZDNjYWY2MDk="
I did not say that all Democrats are against gun rights. I said that
"among them there are many noteworthy exceptions who support those
rights."
On the same web page cited above you may read a very interesting news
analysis on why All Gore was such a big loser in West Virginia
Under the Clinton administration the democrats enacted in 1994 a
now defunct and highly unpopular federal law known by the misnomer
of the "Assault Weapons Ban", as if a class of weapons known by that
name actually ever existed. The law expired in 2004 because it had
a 10-year sunset clause. The 2004 Congress did not want to renew the
unpopular ban. They Clinonite Democrats had arbitrarily banned many
perfectly ordinary rifles, none of which I know of are suitable for
military purposes in modern warfare. They put the so-called
"assault weapons" on an arbitrary statutory list. They did not
even attempt to define "assault weapons" in any manner other than by
putting the names and model numbers on an arbitrary statutory list
of weapons they arbitrarily considered as being "evil" or "ugly and
scary looking" or not politically correct.
You can ***** the morons here, but that's about all!
And how is that I have bullshitted you? Did I not prove my point?
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
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Sorry Dude read the 1974 Bank Act that forced the Banks to report your
transactions.
State Law concerning Gun Laws is paramount. From license restrictions to
magazine capacity limits to even number of weapons owned. The right to
purchase,possess and to carry are ALL MAINTAINED AT STATE LEVEL The Feds
couldn't care less. BECAUSE if every American was as well armed as the
Iraqi's America would be a Great Nation that Alos could never be invaded,
but since
Remember Kiddo. Bush had Armed American Troops confiscating at gunpoint
privately owned legally possessed firearms.
Like I said your pointing the fingers at everyone else but yourself....But
They WANT EVERYTHING BANNED and your GUNS TOO. ***** kid they LOVE LIVE, THEY
WANT TO SAVE LIVES you think that the anti abortion stand is any different
from the Christian Right opinion on Firearms??? Try checking the NRA,
they'll tell you all the Christian groups trying to ban EVERYTHING.
"Samuel W. Heywood" <sheywood@MyRealBox.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.62.0612022254060.7488@sdf.lonestar.org...
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, ;-)> .... -- ..-. .. -.-. . ---- ...-- -.... ----.
wrote:
See Sam I know better if you examine the Financial Supporters of the
Anti-Gun Lobbyists it's many of the Christian Family groups. Be Real
Then Christian Groups all demanded that everything from dancing and
certain types of music even be banned. They're the ones screaming and
crying about video games. Americans have lost more personal freedoms and
liberty's under Republican lead governments then ANY Democratic. Nixon
allowed spying on your bank accounts, Bush allowed spying on everything
else.
The IRS has been spying on people's bank accounts ever since the laws
requiring us to pay income tax were enacted.
It is true that the Christian groups of the so-called "religious right"
want to ban "tasteless" music and most video games. Also they want to
ban dancing and liquor, but they do not want to ban guns. Many
Christians like to go hunting and to engage in recreational target
shooting. Also many of them, probably most of them, feel that Americans
have a right to keep a gun handy in their homes in case needed for
self-defense against life-threatening intruders. Most Americans know
that criminals will always have easy access to guns, even if they are
banned. Of course almost everybody can read the truth in the popular
slogan "When guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns."
Well what would anyone expect but the hillbillies in West Virginny
voting for and electing Bush. Since it's a state, and thier concern
with Guns is a State Issue and Not Federal... Then why elect a Democratic
Gov? Huh Gomer? Not to bright eh?
If you had ever read the Second Amendment of the US Constitution you
would know that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is a
federal concern, as well as a concern of the states. Is there some
part in the wording that you don't understand where it says that the
right "shall not be infringed".
Now read this from the National Review:
"West Virginia: Very pro-gun candidate Democrat Joe Manchin won his
first term as governor"
"http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGEwM2JmODM3NjI0YjUwMDJhZDI4Yjc3ZDNjYWY2MDk="
I did not say that all Democrats are against gun rights. I said that
"among them there are many noteworthy exceptions who support those
rights."
On the same web page cited above you may read a very interesting news
analysis on why All Gore was such a big loser in West Virginia
Under the Clinton administration the democrats enacted in 1994 a now
defunct and highly unpopular federal law known by the misnomer
of the "Assault Weapons Ban", as if a class of weapons known by that
name actually ever existed. The law expired in 2004 because it had
a 10-year sunset clause. The 2004 Congress did not want to renew the
unpopular ban. They Clinonite Democrats had arbitrarily banned many
perfectly ordinary rifles, none of which I know of are suitable for
military purposes in modern warfare. They put the so-called
"assault weapons" on an arbitrary statutory list. They did not
even attempt to define "assault weapons" in any manner other than by
putting the names and model numbers on an arbitrary statutory list
of weapons they arbitrarily considered as being "evil" or "ugly and
scary looking" or not politically correct.
You can ***** the morons here, but that's about all!
And how is that I have bullshitted you? Did I not prove my point?
Sam Heywood
-- USAR and MDARNG (Ret.)
-- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.62
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03 Dec 2006 01:40:30 PM |
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Sorry Dude read the 1974 Bank Act that forced the Banks to report your
transactions.
State Law concerning Gun Laws is paramount. From license restrictions
to magazine capacity limits to even number of weapons owned. The
right to purchase,possess and to carry are ALL MAINTAINED AT STATE
LEVEL The Feds couldn't care less. BECAUSE if every American was as
well armed as the Iraqi's America would be a Great Nation that Alos
could never be invaded, but since
So if the Iraqi's were as well armed as they, um, were. We could never have
invaded Iraq?
Or is that only true for us godfearingwhiteamericans?
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Did you miss something? Were? Like Duhhhhh it doesn't appear that we won
anything (what did we win? did we get a door prize for a Trillion dollars
wasted and 2900 dead soldiers?) much less are winning now are we dude? Even
though we confiscate weapons outa their asses, they got plenty more. Now
here in the States atleast on the East Coast, Russia could pretty much grab
the whole East Coast and what pick shotgun pellets out of their flak
jackets. Get Real!
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OKFch.6709$Py2.6399@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
Sorry Dude read the 1974 Bank Act that forced the Banks to report your
transactions.
State Law concerning Gun Laws is paramount. From license restrictions
to magazine capacity limits to even number of weapons owned. The
right to purchase,possess and to carry are ALL MAINTAINED AT STATE
LEVEL The Feds couldn't care less. BECAUSE if every American was as
well armed as the Iraqi's America would be a Great Nation that Alos
could never be invaded, but since
So if the Iraqi's were as well armed as they, um, were. We could never
have invaded Iraq?
Or is that only true for us godfearingwhiteamericans?
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02 Dec 2006 06:02:27 AM |
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lubow wrote:
Do southern governments have anything better to do than to screw around with
the US Constitution?
Not since lynching was outlawed
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30 Nov 2006 07:46:08 AM |
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On 30 Nov 2006 01:11:01 -0800, wrote:
Which Ten Commandments are inscribed in the monument? The story doesn't
say, but they are probably the Protestant Ten Commandments.
Probably - the same ones that were found to be illegal to put in a
courthouse in Talibama.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the
one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
-- H. L. Mencken
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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02 Dec 2006 06:46:44 PM |
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Now Protestant Christians all over Florida finally have a set of Ten
Commandments that actually mean something to them, seeing as that it
finally has approval from what they truly worship...big-government.
Obviously to them, the Ten Commandments have no meaning whatsoever
unless big-government sponsors and supports them.
Truly, what we have seen in Cross County, Florida is not devotion to
God, which Jesus commanded be done in private, but devotion to
big-government...just like the ideological similar
Stalinist-communists. It is very curious that by praising the Ten
Commandments by using them in public that they are violating several of
them to do so. But they won't care. Big-government is their true god.
As a Goldwater-conservative, I find this an attack on conservatism and
a ruthless attempt to expand government power, usurping the religious
independence of churches. It is not something a free government needs
to be doing.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their
religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a
debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this
supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on
one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will
fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral
convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'" - Senator
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 16 September 1981
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03 Dec 2006 09:56:02 AM |
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As a Goldwater-conservative, I find this an attack on conservatism and
a ruthless attempt to expand government power, usurping the religious
independence of churches. It is not something a free government needs
to be doing.
Goldwater conservative? I'm surprised there are any of you left. Now,
conservatism means, "spend, borrow and blame the next administration for the
mess."
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Lubow
"Lord Calvert" <CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1165106804.021650.225570@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Now Protestant Christians all over Florida finally have a set of Ten
Commandments that actually mean something to them, seeing as that it
finally has approval from what they truly worship...big-government.
Obviously to them, the Ten Commandments have no meaning whatsoever
unless big-government sponsors and supports them.
Truly, what we have seen in Cross County, Florida is not devotion to
God, which Jesus commanded be done in private, but devotion to
big-government...just like the ideological similar
Stalinist-communists. It is very curious that by praising the Ten
Commandments by using them in public that they are violating several of
them to do so. But they won't care. Big-government is their true god.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their
religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a
debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this
supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on
one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will
fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral
convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'" - Senator
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 16 September 1981
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| Title: Re: Dixie courthouse unveils the 10 C. |
03 Dec 2006 11:23:41 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:56:02 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
As a Goldwater-conservative, I find this an attack on conservatism and
a ruthless attempt to expand government power, usurping the religious
independence of churches. It is not something a free government needs
to be doing.
Goldwater conservative? I'm surprised there are any of you left. Now,
conservatism means, "spend, borrow and blame the next administration for the
mess."
Pat Buchanan is one of them.
--
Lubow
"Lord Calvert" <CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1165106804.021650.225570@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Now Protestant Christians all over Florida finally have a set of Ten
Commandments that actually mean something to them, seeing as that it
finally has approval from what they truly worship...big-government.
Obviously to them, the Ten Commandments have no meaning whatsoever
unless big-government sponsors and supports them.
Truly, what we have seen in Cross County, Florida is not devotion to
God, which Jesus commanded be done in private, but devotion to
big-government...just like the ideological similar
Stalinist-communists. It is very curious that by praising the Ten
Commandments by using them in public that they are violating several of
them to do so. But they won't care. Big-government is their true god.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their
religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a
debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this
supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on
one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will
fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral
convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'" - Senator
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 16 September 1981
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Dixie courthouse unveils the 10 C. |
03 Dec 2006 04:42:01 PM |
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Limbaugh wrote:
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:56:02 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
As a Goldwater-conservative, I find this an attack on conservatism and
a ruthless attempt to expand government power, usurping the religious
independence of churches. It is not something a free government needs
to be doing.
Goldwater conservative? I'm surprised there are any of you left. Now,
conservatism means, "spend, borrow and blame the next administration for the
mess."
Pat Buchanan is one of them.
Please. Don't insult our integrity. Buchanan is no
Goldwater-conservative. He's just another anti-American, big-government
worshiping, Christian-supremacist, Taliban-wannabee. He worked for the
big-government FBI back in the '60s. He claims to be a conservative but
has actively encouraged using the power of the state to control and
regulate his political enemies, just like his ideological predecessor
Dzhugashvili . He's just another commie in a choir robe, like his
buddies Falwell and Robertson.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"We were among Hoover's conduits to the American people" - Pat Buchanan
from his autobiography "Right from the Beginning", describing his
relationship with transvestite big-government terrorist J. Edgar Hoover
in his war on American citizens during the '60s.
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