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"AMOS" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:39:52 PM |
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DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
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| User: "Fritz Langs Claytonopolis" |
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05 Apr 2004 02:17:42 AM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
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<snip ignorance>
Fucking idiot!
<plonk>
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:56:18 PM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
There are 6.2 Billion people in the world not 2 billion. There have not been
trillions of people who have died, somewhat less than currently exist now.
If you can't get those numbers even close why would we believe you about 6
foot DNA? Besides an argument from incredulity is not terribly logical nor
convincing.
Gary
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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05 Apr 2004 11:01:57 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:56:18 -0600 the ET form known as Gary
Bohn<garybohn@sasktel.net> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
There are 6.2 Billion people in the world not 2 billion. There have not been
trillions of people who have died, somewhat less than currently exist now.
I think the numbers would have to be more. If you multiply 5,000
generations representing 100,000 years and assume a stable 5 million
global population (estimated by most demographers) for most of that
that period that gives you 25 billion to the beginning of agriculture
after which things become more complicated and that number could
probably be doubled.
According to J. Richard Gott III, 7.7% of the people who ever lived
are alive today - "Implications of the Copernican Principle for Our
Future Prospects," _Nature_ 363:315-9 (27 May 1993)
J.N. Biraben - 60 billion since 40,000 BCE
According the Guinness book 65 billion for the same period.
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| User: "Dale" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:30:49 PM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
There were about 2 billion people in 1930, the 3 billion mark was crossed in
the late 50s, Watson and Crick announced their discovery of DNA in 1953, so
I'd guess this tract was written around 1954.
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| User: "Speed9920000" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:45:27 PM |
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Your whole basis here is that ONLY a god can make the 4 proteins for the dna
sequence which, unfortunately is not true because the 4 nucleic bases are
commonly found in nature. And as to the part of the complexity of it, almost
3.7-3.9 Billion years of evolution will make it pretty different.....
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| User: "Yang, AthD \h.c." |
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05 Apr 2004 12:45:36 AM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Let me guess, you still can't figure out how i's possible that billions of
emails and websites in the world are made up of nothing but zeros and ones.
Yang
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| User: "" |
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05 Apr 2004 03:03:00 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:45:36 -0700, "Yang, AthD \(h.c.\)"
<eacmole@AWOLBushmail.com> wrote:
"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Let me guess, you still can't figure out how i's possible that billions of
emails and websites in the world are made up of nothing but zeros and ones.
Yang
Well met! (I'll be using that...jes sooo ya know!)
<golf clap>
OTOH, you probably lost AMOS. It's scratching its head saying "Ones
and zeroes...wot? I've never seen an email or website with just ones
and zeroes. Silly atheist! Therefore, God exists!"
zamboni
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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05 Apr 2004 03:48:45 AM |
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Yang, AthD <eacmole@AWOLBushmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
AMOS <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Let me guess, you still can't figure out how i's possible that billions of
emails and websites in the world are made up of nothing but zeros and
ones.
Good one!
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:44:10 PM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on)
What planet are you on? The one I'm on currently has 6.3 billion different
people and the official estimate for numbers of those who have ever lived is
106 billion.
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Windows XP Problem and Troubleshooting Resources
<a href="http://kadaitcha.cx"></a>
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| User: "John Baker" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:18:05 PM |
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"AMOS" <amos@godly.man> wrote in message
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com...
Sure, Amos, sure. And 'A Visit From St. Nicholas' proves the TRUTH of Santa
Clause. Get a fucking life, moron.
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| User: "Woden" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:51:51 PM |
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AMOS <amos@godly.man> honored us in alt.atheism with the following
discourse:
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
Another fine example of the American educational system. <...me gets
sick...>
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "TheScientificTruth" |
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05 Apr 2004 10:58:33 AM |
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Another fine example of the American educational system. <...me gets
sick...>
The system is worse than anybody realizes. I know college students who
think mutations violate the laws of physics because they aren't
supposed to happen and some people think that when you burn fat and
sugar it actually turns to energy via E=mc^2. We should elmonate
religion and embrace science.
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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05 Apr 2004 11:31:10 AM |
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"TheScientificTruth" <scientificfundamentalist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:985fee65.0404050758.29f1ddca@posting.google.com...
Another fine example of the American educational system. <...me gets
sick...>
The system is worse than anybody realizes. I know college students who
think mutations violate the laws of physics because they aren't
supposed to happen and some people think that when you burn fat and
sugar it actually turns to energy via E=mc^2.
They are quite possibly right about that. E = mc^2 applies to
molecular chemical reactions just as it applies
to nuclear reactions. If you burn a gram of fat
then a very small part of that mass is converted
to energy and that is according to E = mc^2.
We should elmonate
religion and embrace science.
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| User: "TheScientificTruth" |
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06 Apr 2004 02:06:48 PM |
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"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <rbaker4@msnn.com> wrote in message news:<iRfcc.37579$Lq4.3243@twister.socal.rr.com>...
"TheScientificTruth" <scientificfundamentalist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:985fee65.0404050758.29f1ddca@posting.google.com...
Another fine example of the American educational system. <...me gets
sick...>
The system is worse than anybody realizes. I know college students who
think mutations violate the laws of physics because they aren't
supposed to happen and some people think that when you burn fat and
sugar it actually turns to energy via E=mc^2.
They are quite possibly right about that. E = mc^2 applies to
molecular chemical reactions just as it applies
to nuclear reactions. If you burn a gram of fat
then a very small part of that mass is converted
to energy and that is according to E = mc^2.
The point is that they thought the entire fat molecules are turning
into energy via E=mc^2. The total number of electrons, neutrons, and
protons that go into the reaction come out, none have turned into
energy.
We should elmonate
religion and embrace science.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:08:44 PM |
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AMOS <amos@godly.man> wrote in
news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@4ax.com:
GOD REIGNS
Does not.
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Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Q: Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?
A: To get to the other...er, um...
[seen on a math jokes site]
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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05 Apr 2004 03:41:48 AM |
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AMOS <amos@godly.man> wrote in alt.atheism
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
From where? He's the one causing mutations in DNA copying?
He's doing it on purpose?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:12:54 PM |
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AMOS <amos@godly.man> wrote in news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@
4ax.com:
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral.
Elements? You mean bases I guess.
.. or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
That is good evidence that all living things are descended from the same
common ancestor. Well done on discovering this evidence for evolution.
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species..
Yes each and every one of us has a few mutations that make us genetically
unique along with having a set of genes mixed and matched from our
parents.
. who but an all powerful God could create such universal
No who. Just ordinary old physics and chemistry.
LK,
<SNIP>
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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05 Apr 2004 08:28:25 AM |
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AMOS <amos@godly.man> wrote in news:bhh1705gvk2ckk866pbcgmt6fugu050h6d@
4ax.com:
Do you realize that in each cell of your body contains a *SIX FOOT*
double helix "ladder"? It's called DNA. Did you know that there are
only 4 elements that make up the DNA spiral... or that they are split
into 2 pairings... or that 1 element cannot combine with an element
that is the same as itself or the element its partnered with... or
that the 2 on the left and only mate with 1 of the 2 on the right and
vice versa? While I'm at it, did you know that every living thing;
plants, animals, etc. are made up of the those exact same 4 elements?
Now I ask you; with the over 2 billion very different people in this
world, (not to mention the trillions of chemically unique individuals
who've passed-on), the thousands of different plant forms and animal
species... who but an all powerful God could create such universal
diversity with only 4 "puzzle" pieces or that can reduce a 6 foot
grouping of those pieces in even the most mircoscopical cell?
GOD REIGNS
How is it that a bunch of silicon and copper can make pretty pictures
and display all these words?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "M C" |
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05 Apr 2004 05:49:37 PM |
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How is it that a bunch of silicon and copper can make pretty pictures
and display all these words?
That electronic wonder on your desk had a creator, too. It's existence is
evidence of an intelligent creator. If a mere human mind can make a
computer, then why is it not possible that an intelligent creator made the
DNA in your cells? Think about it. Perhaps it will save your soul and help
you find Jesus.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Apr 2004 05:38:23 PM |
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"M C" <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:1073hd4h7r4nl5c@corp.supernews.com...
How is it that a bunch of silicon and copper can make pretty pictures
and display all these words?
That electronic wonder on your desk had a creator, too. It's existence is
evidence of an intelligent creator. If a mere human mind can make a
computer, then why is it not possible that an intelligent creator made the
DNA in your cells? Think about it. Perhaps it will save your soul and help
you find Jesus.
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
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| User: "M C" |
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05 Apr 2004 09:09:49 PM |
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Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built
in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had
an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe
he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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06 Apr 2004 05:23:41 AM |
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"M C" <mcunix@swbell.net> astounded us with:
news:1073t4hbl4cstec@corp.supernews.com:
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that
creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We
have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built
in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had
an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that
it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe
he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over
a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
That was a rather un-christian thing to say.
Here's a gentler way. MC has an IQ of 65 and disagrees.
I would have given extra points if you included "lake o'farr" in there as
well.
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Apr 2004 09:04:25 PM |
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"M C" <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:1073t4hbl4cstec@corp.supernews.com...
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that
creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We
have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built
in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had
an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that
it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe
he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over
a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Translation: I cannot refute your argument, so I'll make empty threats and
call you names like the ignorant, superstitious fool I am.
Don't look now, but your stupidity is showing. :-)
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| User: "Xaonon" |
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05 Apr 2004 07:10:41 PM |
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Ned i bach <1073t4hbl4cstec@corp.supernews.com>, M C <mcunix@swbell.net>
teithant i thiw hin:
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that
creator is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by
humans. We have proof of that. Some are built by the people using them,
others are built in factories and then purchased by the end user, but
all are made by human beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other
hand, know that DNA had an intelligent creator, and there's no objective
evidence to indicate that it did. The possibility that such a creator
*might* exist is not, given the complete lack of supporting evidence,
sufficient reason to believe he/she/it *does* exist. Paley's watchmaker
argument was thoroughly demolished over a century ago. Time for
Christians to find a new angle.
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Ah yes, the "believe me or else" argument. Always the sign of a winner.
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Xaonon, EAC Chief of Mad Scientists and informal BAAWA, aa #1821, Kibo #: 1
http://xaonon.dyndns.org/ Guaranteed content-free since 1999. No refunds.
"The universe would be better with out franz heymann. Any group of people
would be better with out the slime." -- Kurt Stocklmeir, in sci.physics
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| User: "M C" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
05 Apr 2004 11:38:50 PM |
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When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Ah yes, the "believe me or else" argument. Always the sign of a winner.
I'm an atheist. I was just pulling his leg to see to see if anyone even pay
attention to me. I mean... "Ape-boy"??? God...
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
06 Apr 2004 01:07:45 PM |
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M C wrote:
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Ah yes, the "believe me or else" argument. Always the sign of a winner.
I'm an atheist. I was just pulling his leg to see to see if anyone even pay
attention to me. I mean... "Ape-boy"??? God...
You should see Duke or many of the other Christers in here. "you're
going to burn in hel" is a favourite of theirs, an ape boy isn't that
unlikely
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Not BAAWA
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| User: "TCS" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
05 Apr 2004 10:34:16 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:38:50 -0700, M C <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote:
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Ah yes, the "believe me or else" argument. Always the sign of a winner.
I'm an atheist. I was just pulling his leg to see to see if anyone even pay
attention to me. I mean... "Ape-boy"??? God...
uh huh. And the reason for your posting the typical fundiot "your computer
obvious has a creator -- so must DNA" drivel is.....?
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| User: "M C" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
06 Apr 2004 12:51:02 AM |
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"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc7499n.7vt.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:38:50 -0700, M C <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote:
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
Ah yes, the "believe me or else" argument. Always the sign of a
winner.
I'm an atheist. I was just pulling his leg to see to see if anyone even
pay
attention to me. I mean... "Ape-boy"??? God...
uh huh. And the reason for your posting the typical fundiot "your
computer
obvious has a creator -- so must DNA" drivel is.....?
Getting sick of this stupid thread and wanted to be the first to say it.
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| User: "TCS" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
05 Apr 2004 07:30:24 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:09:49 -0700, M C <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote:
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built
in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had
an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe
he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
When you are burning in hell, I will be the one laughing, Ape-boy.
ah... christian love. You're nothing if not predictable.
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| User: "The Other Alan" |
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| Title: Re: DNA proves TRUTH of Creationism |
06 Apr 2004 05:07:20 AM |
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John Baker wrote:
"M C" <mcunix@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:1073hd4h7r4nl5c@corp.supernews.com...
How is it that a bunch of silicon and copper can make pretty pictures
and display all these words?
That electronic wonder on your desk had a creator, too. It's existence is
evidence of an intelligent creator. If a mere human mind can make a
computer, then why is it not possible that an intelligent creator made the
DNA in your cells? Think about it. Perhaps it will save your soul and help
you find Jesus.
Yes, the computer sitting on my desk had an intelligent creator. It so
happens that as far as this particular computer is concerned, that creator
is me. And there's the rub. We know computers are built by humans. We have
proof of that. Some are built by the people using them, others are built in
factories and then purchased by the end user, but all are made by human
beings. No mystery there. We don't, on the other hand, know that DNA had an
intelligent creator, and there's no objective evidence to indicate that it
did. The possibility that such a creator *might* exist is not, given the
complete lack of supporting evidence, sufficient reason to believe he/she/it
*does* exist. Paley's watchmaker argument was thoroughly demolished over a
century ago. Time for Christians to find a new angle.
What possibility that such a creator might exist? No such thing is
possible, due to the fatal problem inherent in the very idea of it
(special pleading for that one thing) which Bertrand Russell pointed out:
"The argument that there must be a first cause is one that cannot have
any validity. If anything must have a cause, then God must have a cause.
If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the
world [universe, everything that exists] as God." -- Lord Bertrand
Russell (1872 - 1970)
If you still think such a thing is possible, try it for yourself, try
crafting an argument for a first cause/creator without the fatal problem
Russell points out. It can't be done.
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