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27 Nov 2005 06:37:00 PM |
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Do babies burn in Hell? |
Do babies burn in Hell?
Recently I found a webpage that all believers in
salvation-through-faith should read. It is entitled "Do Babies
Automatically go to Heaven?" The author, K. B. Napier, argues they do
not. His argument is simple: One must be born again to go to heaven;
babies cannot be born again; therefore babies are doomed.
The implications of his argument are so horrible that most Christians
will immediately turn from the suggestion. How could God burn a baby in
hell forever for not believing, even though the baby had never reached
an age where he could understand? What would one ever say to a grieving
mother whose infant was in hell? Napier confronts that problem:
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I can partially understand the desire not to increase the burden of
a bereaved parent, by saying something soothing...but to claim it to be
a part of scriptural teaching is yet another matter, of gravest
importance, because it totally undermines the true gospel...In an
effort to comfort the bereaved they often say things that are
unscriptural. This is particularly so if the dead person is an unborn
or young child. What minister has the courage to teach what scripture
says in such circumstances? I know of none!<<
I struggle to think how Napier might comfort the grieving mother whose
infant is supposedly screaming in hell.
Napier is quick to point out that babies are sinners and that sinners
go to hell. But even he cannot seem to find the words to declare that
babies go to hell. He chooses to concentrate on his conclusion that
they don't go to heaven. But he clearly infers where infants go: They
all burn in eternal conscious torment in hell forever.
But if you reject Napier's teaching, and find that the rule requiring
new birth has an exception in the case of infants--and most Christians
think it does--are there other exceptions? Are the mentally handicapped
also exempted? What about those who haven't heard? What about those who
have reviewed the facts, and decided they cannot believe? If babies can
be exempted from the curse without a new birth, why can't others enjoy
the same exemption? And then why would faith even matter?
If one truly thought that one must believe certain assertions to escape
hell, it seems to me he would end up at the barbaric conclusion that
Napier reaches. What do you think?
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28 Nov 2005 11:44:09 AM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> astounded us with:
news:1133116620.693516.201350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Do babies burn in Hell?
Maybe, seeing as "hell" is "being surrounded by christians"
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27 Nov 2005 07:19:38 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote
Recently I found a webpage that all believers in
salvation-through-faith should read. It is entitled "Do Babies
Automatically go to Heaven?" The author, K. B. Napier, argues they do
not. His argument is simple: One must be born again to go to heaven;
babies cannot be born again; therefore babies are doomed.
The implications of his argument are so horrible that most Christians
will immediately turn from the suggestion. How could God burn a baby in
hell forever for not believing, even though the baby had never reached
an age where he could understand? What would one ever say to a grieving
mother whose infant was in hell? Napier confronts that problem:
Hence the teaching on limbo.
(Rejected by Proestants because they wanted to reject Purgatory, with the
associated abuses of indulgenes, and the two were associated too closely).
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| User: "Dale" |
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27 Nov 2005 08:27:12 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Do babies burn in Hell?
No, but people who post HTML to Usenet groups do go to Hell, as do people
who top-post their responses.
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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27 Nov 2005 11:52:35 PM |
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In article <AEoif.20839$7h7.4212@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Do babies burn in Hell?
No, but people who post HTML to Usenet groups do go to Hell, as do people
who top-post their responses.
• HTML posters also get a month in Purgatory for each word posted in HTML. .
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28 Nov 2005 04:07:05 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:52:35 -0800, (€€R.L.Measures) wrote:
In article <AEoif.20839$7h7.4212@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133116620.693516.201350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Do babies burn in Hell?
No, but people who post HTML to Usenet groups do go to Hell, as do people
who top-post their responses.
• HTML posters also get a month in Purgatory for each word posted in HTML. .
Yes, but who's going to pray them out?
Let'm burn!!
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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28 Nov 2005 09:49:36 AM |
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In article <4i0lo1pcqnv524on9ako3gq4lgd8rnarp5@4ax.com>, CB
<country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:52:35 -0800, (€€R.L.Measures) wrote:
In article <AEoif.20839$7h7.4212@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133116620.693516.201350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Do babies burn in Hell?
No, but people who post HTML to Usenet groups do go to Hell, as do people
who top-post their responses.
• HTML posters also get a month in Purgatory for each word posted in HTML. .
Yes, but who's going to pray them out?
Let'm burn!!
• HTML posters would do well to invest in a Carmelite Brown Scapular®.
http://www.ocarm.org/eng/scapoeng.htm
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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27 Nov 2005 07:51:34 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Do babies burn in Hell?
(snip)
If one truly thought that one must believe certain assertions to escape
hell, it seems to me he would end up at the barbaric conclusion that
Napier reaches. What do you think?
I think if anyone worships a thing that would do such things, they are
monsters.
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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27 Nov 2005 07:57:24 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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27 Nov 2005 08:17:42 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
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28 Nov 2005 03:07:13 PM |
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in message
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
He's referring to abortion.
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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28 Nov 2005 05:38:44 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in message
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and
simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
He's referring to abortion.
He's not being very accurate, then, is he?
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27 Nov 2005 11:49:40 PM |
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In article <FL-dnXsEktfSiBfeRVn-vA@giganews.com>, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
• God allows anti-choicers t say any damn thing they please.
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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27 Nov 2005 10:33:22 PM |
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Mark Stahl wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dmd333$lq7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Heavens, No! Why not just let all babies be born and then humanely
drown the ones we don't like? (Chesterton)
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Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Nov 2005 11:19:01 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:33:22 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
Mark Stahl wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dmd333$lq7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Heavens, No! Why not just let all babies be born and then humanely
drown the ones we don't like? (Chesterton)
Abortionists are doing that now.
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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29 Nov 2005 06:05:31 AM |
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in article gsplo1hm0vsn69l0vvtj31no0q0utooarb@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/28/05 6:19 AM:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:33:22 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
Mark Stahl wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dmd333$lq7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Heavens, No! Why not just let all babies be born and then humanely
drown the ones we don't like? (Chesterton)
Abortionists are doing that now. And thinking about is as close
as I get to sex.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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28 Nov 2005 11:18:09 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dmd333$lq7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over 45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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28 Nov 2005 05:38:13 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over
45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
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28 Nov 2005 11:44:42 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:38:13 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over
45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one. They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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28 Nov 2005 11:51:47 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:38:13 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over
45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one.
I have several, including a medical dictionary.
They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
They're undeveloped zygotes or fetuses, not babies.
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29 Nov 2005 11:08:25 AM |
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In article <R_Kdnfs-uqpnBRbeRVn-uQ@giganews.com>, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:38:13 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over
45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one.
I have several, including a medical dictionary.
They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
They're undeveloped zygotes or fetuses, not babies.
• To a True Believer Roman Catholic, a condom is absolutely, positively,
a baby-killer,
- "I can not believe that salvation is based on contraception by
temperature and damnation is based on rubber".
- Dr. André Hellegers.
(late Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at
Georgetown University Hospital)
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29 Nov 2005 11:45:47 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
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Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one.
I have several, including a medical dictionary.
They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
They're undeveloped zygotes or fetuses, not babies.
Sorry, they have heartbeats, and they move and kick, suck their thumbs, and all
sorts of things.
Now you may find joy and glee in butchering them, but we don't. Remember, they
are human babies, not dogs.
duke
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30 Nov 2005 12:03:47 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one.
I have several, including a medical dictionary.
They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
They're undeveloped zygotes or fetuses, not babies.
Sorry, they have heartbeats, and they move and kick, suck their thumbs,
and all
sorts of things.
Most abortions are performed long before any of these things short of the
heartbeat. Besides, with the exception of the thumb sucking, the exact same
thing can be said of the fetuses of any mammal.
Now you may find joy and glee in butchering them, but we don't.
You prefer to wait until they're sentient to do your butchering, I know.
Remember, they
are human babies, not dogs.
They aren't human babies or dogs, duke.
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30 Nov 2005 02:20:12 AM |
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in article juppo1l9kpjlakvta89bfonrocam0elhb9@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/29/05 6:45 PM:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
Abortion doesn't involve babies, sorry. Get yourself a dictionary.
You better get yourself one.
I have several, including a medical dictionary.
They are unborn human babies, not dogs.
They're undeveloped zygotes or fetuses, not babies.
Sorry, they have heartbeats, and they move and kick, suck their thumbs, and
all
sorts of things.
Now you may find joy and glee in butchering them, but we don't. Fortunately,
we have towelheads for that.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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29 Nov 2005 02:21:57 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:18:09 -0600, duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:42 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dmd333$lq7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Why would anyone ever do that, and why would you think it's OK?
Actually they do it with forceps. It's called abortion. And over 45,000,000
babies have been butchered that way.
Forceps? You really are ignorant, aren't you? They use forceps to
extract a (live) baby whose head is too big to get thru the birth canal.
If you want to relieve your uterine lining of uninvited guests, a suction
curette is the tool you want.
duke
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Do babies burn in Hell? |
27 Nov 2005 10:10:01 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:57:24 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Well, for those that choose to use the Christian God as the ultimate
in morality, then imitation of this God should be considered noble
behavior, and the answer would be yes.
Cruelty and Violence in the Bible
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
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| User: "satyr" |
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27 Nov 2005 11:10:51 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:57:24 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an imagined
being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is OK?
Can you even still get vacuum tubes? Everything is integrated
circuits now.
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Malcolm
(regniztar@btinternet.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and
simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Do you know someone who is doing this?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Do babies burn in Hell? |
27 Nov 2005 10:43:44 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Do you know someone who is doing this?
You can see it on video.
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Do babies burn in Hell? |
28 Nov 2005 01:04:36 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in news message
<dmdcr0$lmr$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Do you know someone who is doing this?
You can see it on video.
How many times a day do you watch this video?
Liz #658 BAAWA
"The Bible is a wonderful source of inspiration for those
who don't understand it." -- George Santayana
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Do babies burn in Hell? |
28 Nov 2005 03:07:57 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns971B855DED548vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Malcolm
(regniztar@btinternet.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
It doesn't matter that the god doesn't exist, if you worship an
imagined being that tortures babies, then you're a monster, pure and
simple.
But if you pull babies to bits with high-power vacuum tubes, that is
OK?
Do you know someone who is doing this?
How do you think most 1st trimester abortions are performed?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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