Religions > Atheism > do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ?
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03 Nov 2007 12:02:05 AM |
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do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
05 Nov 2007 11:43:53 AM |
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<radeonr420@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194066125.346191.276890@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
WTF?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
07 Nov 2007 01:01:01 PM |
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On Nov 5, 12:43 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<radeonr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194066125.346191.276890@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
WTF?
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Look at the groups the original post was crossposted to...hint: one is
the dead giveaway rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Hatter
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
07 Nov 2007 02:54:47 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194462061.882522.272220@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 12:43 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<radeonr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194066125.346191.276890@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
WTF?
--
Look at the groups the original post was crossposted to...hint: one is
the dead giveaway rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Yeah, I noticed that. I guess a lot of class acts hang out on that
newsgroup :P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
1557
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
03 Nov 2007 09:04:28 PM |
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Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
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Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
03 Nov 2007 09:04:30 PM |
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On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
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Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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04 Nov 2007 08:57:13 PM |
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wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
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Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
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No, I'm not, but yes I'm glad I pissed you off. I enjoyed it.
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
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p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
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I do indeed, and it's too late, I already had two kids, now in their
thirties, and they LOVED the way we raised them, and MY family's fine,
you asswipe!. So eat your ***** and die!
Steve
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 08:52:24 PM |
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On Nov 4, 8:57 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
------------------
Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
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No, I'm not, but yes I'm glad I pissed you off. I enjoyed it.
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
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p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
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I do indeed, and it's too late, I already had two kids, now in their
thirties, and they LOVED the way we raised them, and MY family's fine,
you asswipe!. So eat your ***** and die!
Steve
I fucking hope you get Testicular cancer, you fucking *****.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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06 Nov 2007 04:47:56 AM |
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On Nov 4, 8:57 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
------------------
Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
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No, I'm not, but yes I'm glad I pissed you off. I enjoyed it.
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
.
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
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I do indeed, and it's too late, I already had two kids, now in their
thirties, and they LOVED the way we raised them, and MY family's fine,
you asswipe!. So eat your ***** and die!
Steve
I fucking hope you get Testicular cancer, you fucking *****.
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I'm too old to get it. You lose.
Steve
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| User: "rwa2play, The Northern Lariat" |
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04 Nov 2007 01:20:41 AM |
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On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
------------------
Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
Pot calling kettle, are you there kettle?
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
Now what would God say about your foul language, huh?
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
Guess somebody knows they're going to hell regardless so they might as
well stop pretending. :-D
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rwa2play, The Northern Lariat
The vanguard of RSPW. I <3 joshi puroresu.
"Don't sing it, BRING IT!" -- Scott Hall.
Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. -- Albert Einstein
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| User: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 10:55:53 AM |
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"rwa2play, The Northern Lariat" <rwa2play@gmail.com> wrote in
news:NvdXi.2187$cL7.62@newsfe09.lga:
radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's
parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those
children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens
have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
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Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just
like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone
they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
Pot calling kettle, are you there kettle?
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
Now what would God say about your foul language, huh?
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
Guess somebody knows they're going to hell regardless so they might as
well stop pretending. :-D
Moo Cow
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| User: "s0183616" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have hadsexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 01:24:43 AM |
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rwa2play, The Northern Lariat wrote:
radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
------------------
Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
Pot calling kettle, are you there kettle?
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
Now what would God say about your foul language, huh?
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
Guess somebody knows they're going to hell regardless so they might as
well stop pretending. :-D
Just observing, but if I'm tracking the people right, I think Steve is
way wrong.
I'm saying that making affairs illegal is wrong.
I am OK with cheating in a marriage having civil implications unless a
prenup contradicts that or the vows were very clear that monogamy was
not expected.
If you take a hardcore vow, you should be held civilly liable. Not
hardcore civilly liable, but at least a little bit.
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| User: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 10:55:49 AM |
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s0183616 <s0183616@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:LAdXi.13446$4V6.4925@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net:
rwa2play, The Northern Lariat wrote:
radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's
parent or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual
affairs) got divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons,
re-married, therefore wrecked the home & destroyed their
family.... do those children/teen need to 'obey' that parent or
parents? do those children/teens have to respect and 'honor'
their parents who do that?
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Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just
like everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to
try to make them stay with each other even if they hate each
other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and
we WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone
they can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and
identifies you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
Pot calling kettle, are you there kettle?
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids.
you sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your
own family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
Now what would God say about your foul language, huh?
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
Guess somebody knows they're going to hell regardless so they might
as well stop pretending. :-D
Just observing, but if I'm tracking the people right, I think Steve is
way wrong.
I'm saying that making affairs illegal is wrong.
I am OK with cheating in a marriage having civil implications unless a
prenup contradicts that or the vows were very clear that monogamy was
not expected.
If you take a hardcore vow, you should be held civilly liable. Not
hardcore civilly liable, but at least a little bit.
Moo Cow
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 09:13:41 PM |
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s0183616 wrote:
rwa2play, The Northern Lariat wrote:
radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:04 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
radeonr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
------------------
Get over it! Your parents had a right to a decent sex life, just like
everyone else, but like a squaling little child you want to try to
make them stay with each other even if they hate each other's guts!
They have the RIGHT to have affairs if they wish, we HAVE NOT and we
WILL NOT be making that illegal! Being made to stay with someone they
can't stand to ***** is a violation of their humanity, and identifies
you as immature and stupid.
Steve
I'm thinking your reply is one of 2 things, maybe both
1.) you're a troll and you are trying to push my buttons, get me
angry. if true, congrats, you succeeded. ***** you.
Pot calling kettle, are you there kettle?
2.) you really believe what you said. if so, you're an incredibly
toxic piece of *****, and i hope to ***** that you don't have kids. you
sound like someone who wouldn't think twice about wrecking your own
family, as well as the family of your mistress. ***** you.
Now what would God say about your foul language, huh?
p.s. 3. oh, i forgot..... ***** YOU STEVE.
Guess somebody knows they're going to hell regardless so they might as
well stop pretending. :-D
Just observing, but if I'm tracking the people right, I think Steve is
way wrong.
I'm saying that making affairs illegal is wrong.
I am OK with cheating in a marriage having civil implications unless a
prenup contradicts that or the vows were very clear that monogamy was
not expected.
If you take a hardcore vow, you should be held civilly liable. Not
hardcore civilly liable, but at least a little bit.
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You're civilly responsible for children. No other obligation is implied
between equals, because if they are equals how do you decide who owes
what to whom?? And if they hate each other's guts, you wouldn't want
them raising children together anyway.
If they have an affair that "breaks-up" the marriage, then that was NOT
a marriage, and that affair was not what "broke up" that marriage! The
causes of the break-up of a marriage are precisely equally the fault of
both sides, no solitary blame can be assigned fairly, and no decision
about balance between their respective degrees of fault can correctly
be ascertained either. There are simply too many aspects, most of them
unknowable, to reasonably consider!
Individuals have the right to an enjoyable sex-life, because without
one they haven't a reason for existing at all and aren't any good to
children, society, or themselves. Only they can decide how they must
pursue that goal, and children must stay out of it.
All the children whining that they want their parents to live together
and love each other again is just immaturity, a case of them not
knowing what is actually good for them, or else they'd fucking know
better!
When they are more mature, they will be able to move on from that with
better perspective. They must be encouraged to seek that maturity,
not a return to the impossible that wastes their time and emotional
energy.
Steve
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| Title: Re: do children need to obey / respect / honor parents who have had sexual affairs and got divorced ? |
04 Nov 2007 10:06:12 PM |
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On Nov 4, 9:13 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
If they have an affair that "breaks-up" the marriage, then that was NOT
a marriage, and that affair was not what "broke up" that marriage!
that is the most pathetic steaming pile of pure ***** I have ever
heard.
you are so wrong steve, you wouldn't know what right was if it cracked
you in your face.
The
causes of the break-up of a marriage are precisely equally the fault of
both sides, no solitary blame can be assigned fairly, and no decision
about balance between their respective degrees of fault can correctly
be ascertained either.
BULL *****.
There are simply too many aspects, most of them unknowable, to
reasonably consider!
NONSENSE. a wife/mother or husband/father could easily be the only
person to blame for an affair and destruction of the marriage and the
family. while sometimes it is complicated and many times both are
to blame, that doesn't mean that in many marriages one party isn't
mostly or entirely at fault.
Individuals have the right to an enjoyable sex-life, because without
one they haven't a reason for existing at all and aren't any good to
children, society, or themselves.
so you are saying sexlife is the be all, end all of a marriage and a
family?
die and burn in hell.
Only they can decide how they must
pursue that goal, and children must stay out of it.
you fucking *****.
All the children whining that they want their parents to live together
and love each other again is just immaturity, a case of them not
knowing what is actually good for them, or else they'd fucking know
better!
LOL, you fucking sick piece of garbage.
When they are more mature, they will be able to move on from that with
better perspective. They must be encouraged to seek that maturity,
not a return to the impossible that wastes their time and emotional
energy.
Steve
what a tradegy that you were a father to any child. pitiful excuse
for a man, a husband and a father. you truly are sickening.
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06 Nov 2007 04:56:36 AM |
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wrote:
On Nov 4, 9:13 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
If they have an affair that "breaks-up" the marriage, then that was NOT
a marriage, and that affair was not what "broke up" that marriage!
that is the most pathetic steaming pile of pure ***** I have ever
heard.
you are so wrong steve, you wouldn't know what right was if it cracked
you in your face.
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Wow, what logic. You said nothing.
I think you've confused thought with ranting *****.
The
causes of the break-up of a marriage are precisely equally the fault of
both sides, no solitary blame can be assigned fairly, and no decision
about balance between their respective degrees of fault can correctly
be ascertained either.
BULL *****.
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So she left your ***** for a guy with a bigger *****, eh?
It's all over your post, asswipe.
You picked her, and you didn't know it, obviously, but you were
never really even married.
There are simply too many aspects, most of them unknowable, to
reasonably consider!
NONSENSE. a wife/mother or husband/father could easily be the only
person to blame for an affair and destruction of the marriage and the
family. while sometimes it is complicated and many times both are
to blame, that doesn't mean that in many marriages one party isn't
mostly or entirely at fault.
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Now you'd like to blame her alone for both of your ignorances and
stupidities. Stupid.
x> > Individuals have the right to an enjoyable sex-life, because
without
one they haven't a reason for existing at all and aren't any good to
children, society, or themselves.
so you are saying sexlife is the be all, end all of a marriage and a
family?
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It's the thing without which nobody would even bother to GET married.
Everybody knows that when phrased THAT way!
die and burn in hell.
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More of your ranting and inability to think.
Only they can decide how they must
pursue that goal, and children must stay out of it.
you fucking *****.
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More of your ranting and inability to think.
All the children whining that they want their parents to live together
and love each other again is just immaturity, a case of them not
knowing what is actually good for them, or else they'd fucking know
better!
LOL, you fucking sick piece of garbage.
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More of your ranting and inability to think.
When they are more mature, they will be able to move on from that with
better perspective. They must be encouraged to seek that maturity,
not a return to the impossible that wastes their time and emotional
energy.
Steve
what a tradegy that you were a father to any child. pitiful excuse
for a man, a husband and a father. you truly are sickening.
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More of your ranting and inability to think.
Don't you really even KNOW how to argue???
You can't just insult someone, you have to actually give good and
cogent reasons why THEIR thinking is wrong, but you're only capable
of blathering your emotional nonsense.
Steve
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06 Nov 2007 05:13:10 AM |
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On 3 nov, 06:02, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs)
Get real and stop talking like a prude straight from the 19th
century...
No one, besides repressed neocons, talk about adultery.
got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons,
Like what?
re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
Yup!
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
And decency for you is strictly sexual matter...
How come Americans are so hypocrite and prude?
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
So, you think it's better for children to see their parents stuck in a
dead, meaningless and hypocrite relationship that makes them unhappy?
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06 Nov 2007 06:24:29 PM |
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BTW, your ideas, as are steve's, are DISASTROUS to a healthy family.
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07 Nov 2007 06:19:33 AM |
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wrote:
BTW, your ideas, as are steve's, are DISASTROUS to a healthy family.
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This little clown thinks he could have held his disastrous marriage
together if he could have just had the threat of suing the guy his
wife was fucking.
He also thinks he could have kept his parents together by society
forcing them to live together.
In other words, he's a fucking immature little idiot.
Steve
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10 Nov 2007 10:13:46 PM |
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On Nov 6, 5:13 am, wrote:
Get real and stop talking like a prude straight from the 19th
century...
No one, besides repressed neocons, talk about adultery.
WRONG.
that's fucking *****. people in modern society talk about ADULTERY
to this day. every day. Most DECENT human beings (unlike you) agree
that ADULTERY is wrong, hurtful, damaging. disastrous, devastating and
has terrible consequences for everyone involved, especially for the
kids, and even including the ones commiting adultery.
so GET REAL YOURSELF and, for the love of God, get a fucking clue,
you homewrecking pile of pig-*****.
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11 Nov 2007 03:25:06 PM |
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wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:13 am, wrote:
Get real and stop talking like a prude straight from the 19th
century...
No one, besides repressed neocons, talk about adultery.
WRONG.
that's fucking *****. people in modern society talk about ADULTERY
to this day. every day.
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But NOT with a serious eye to trying to ban it.
Won't happen now, not ever.
Most DECENT human beings (unlike you) agree
that ADULTERY is wrong, hurtful, damaging. disastrous, devastating and
has terrible consequences for everyone involved, especially for the
kids, and even including the ones commiting adultery.
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All those outcomes are produced by the parents being uncivil with each
other about each other's sexual needs. They don't need to act like
imature greedy selfish children in order to raise children.
so GET REAL YOURSELF and, for the love of God, get a fucking clue,
you homewrecking pile of pig-*****.
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You're an ignorant laughable little soap-opera drenched Fundy *****.
Steve
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05 Nov 2007 12:07:15 PM |
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On 3 nov, 06:02, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
So you would aprove off half the children in the world disobeying
there parents?
Do you think that would be beneficial to society?
And who will teach these children to disobey? The parents?
Or do you think it a gooe idea for all the children of adulteres
divorcees etcetera to be put in homes, and be tutored by adulterous
divorces care-takes instead?
Remember: You are talking about half (or more) of all children.
It may even be true, that 80% of al pairs of parents, contain at least
one adulterer.
And if the father commits adultery, should the child than disobey the
mother too,
and vice-versa?
Or should the child only disobey the aduterous parent?
And who is going to tell the child about this adultery?
And what if the adultery happens before the child knows what adulter
is?
Should sexual education take presidence at Kindergarten?
And shouldn't the same be applied to teachers, policemen, politicians?
Don't you just love Anarchism?
Peter van Velzen
(known to have flirted with Anarchism)
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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06 Nov 2007 06:21:37 PM |
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On Nov 5, 12:07 pm, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 3 nov, 06:02, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
So you would aprove off half the children in the world disobeying
there parents?
Do you think that would be beneficial to society?
And who will teach these children to disobey? The parents?
Or do you think it a gooe idea for all the children of adulteres
divorcees etcetera to be put in homes, and be tutored by adulterous
divorces care-takes instead?
Remember: You are talking about half (or more) of all children.
It may even be true, that 80% of al pairs of parents, contain at least
one adulterer.
And if the father commits adultery, should the child than disobey the
mother too,
and vice-versa?
Or should the child only disobey the aduterous parent?
And who is going to tell the child about this adultery?
And what if the adultery happens before the child knows what adulter
is?
Should sexual education take presidence at Kindergarten?
And shouldn't the same be applied to teachers, policemen, politicians?
Don't you just love Anarchism?
Peter van Velzen
(known to have flirted with Anarchism)
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
ugh, another family-destroying guy with a GAPING cunthole that leaks
toxic *****.
***** will you?
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06 Nov 2007 07:33:48 PM |
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<radeonr420@yahoo.com>snip
ugh, another family-destroying guy with a GAPING cunthole that leaks
toxic *****.
***** will you?
Grow up, junior.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
1557
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07 Nov 2007 12:48:18 AM |
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On Nov 6, 7:33 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<snip>
*PLONK*
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07 Nov 2007 09:07:01 AM |
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writes:
On Nov 6, 7:33 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<snip>
*PLONK*
Don't go away mad...just go away.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Lake Erie 1 (SO) (November 4)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, November 8 at Milwaukee, 7:05
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07 Nov 2007 11:19:50 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklk9anlgq.fsf@eris.io.com...
radeonr420@yahoo.com writes:
On Nov 6, 7:33 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<snip>
*PLONK*
Don't go away mad...just go away.
He plonked me? LOL, that's too funny ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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08 Nov 2007 12:18:56 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklk9anlgq.fsf@eris.io.com...
radeonr420@yahoo.com writes:
On Nov 6, 7:33 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
<snip>
*PLONK*
Don't go away mad...just go away.
He plonked me? LOL, that's too funny ;)
Humor is obviously lost on him. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Lake Erie 1 (SO) (November 4)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, November 8 at Milwaukee, 7:05
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07 Nov 2007 11:55:15 AM |
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In article <1194394897.061965.20550@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> writes:
On Nov 5, 12:07 pm, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 3 nov, 06:02, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
So you would aprove off half the children in the world disobeying
there parents?
Do you think that would be beneficial to society?
And who will teach these children to disobey? The parents?
Or do you think it a gooe idea for all the children of adulteres
divorcees etcetera to be put in homes, and be tutored by adulterous
divorces care-takes instead?
Remember: You are talking about half (or more) of all children.
It may even be true, that 80% of al pairs of parents, contain at least
one adulterer.
And if the father commits adultery, should the child than disobey the
mother too,
and vice-versa?
Or should the child only disobey the aduterous parent?
And who is going to tell the child about this adultery?
And what if the adultery happens before the child knows what adulter
is?
Should sexual education take presidence at Kindergarten?
And shouldn't the same be applied to teachers, policemen, politicians?
Don't you just love Anarchism?
Peter van Velzen
(known to have flirted with Anarchism)
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
ugh, another family-destroying guy with a GAPING cunthole that leaks
toxic *****.
***** will you?
Why? For pointing out that under your proposal, the majority
of our children would pay no attention to their parents?
Kindly explain why Peter is not correct. Here,s you may
use this space:
-- cary
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07 Nov 2007 11:18:01 AM |
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On 7 nov, 01:21, wrote:
On Nov 5, 12:07 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 3 nov, 06:02, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
So you would aprove off half the children in the world disobeying
there parents?
Do you think that would be beneficial to society?
And who will teach these children to disobey? The parents?
Or do you think it a gooe idea for all the children of adulteres
divorcees etcetera to be put in homes, and be tutored by adulterous
divorces care-takes instead?
Remember: You are talking about half (or more) of all children.
It may even be true, that 80% of al pairs of parents, contain at least
one adulterer.
And if the father commits adultery, should the child than disobey the
mother too,
and vice-versa?
Or should the child only disobey the aduterous parent?
And who is going to tell the child about this adultery?
And what if the adultery happens before the child knows what adulter
is?
Should sexual education take presidence at Kindergarten?
And shouldn't the same be applied to teachers, policemen, politicians?
Don't you just love Anarchism?
Peter van Velzen
(known to have flirted with Anarchism)
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
ugh, another family-destroying guy with a GAPING cunthole that leaks
toxic *****.
***** will you?
Why why, if somebody considers the family-destroying consequenses of
your post, you declare that someone to be guilty of what you have
prescribed?
And to make sure we know you talk *****, you add an unsupported
claim about his behind?
If you want someone to *****, you should do it yourself, for I am
not in favor of evasive behaviour.
Evidently you do not want to be taken seriously,
OK I won't. But I will not run from what I have said.
It is not good for society when children of parents that have a
distorded relationship, become disobedient, and it is not in the
interest of the children to display such behavior!
Peter van Velzen
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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03 Nov 2007 08:25:03 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:02:05 -0700, radeonr420 wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent or
parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got divorced
for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore wrecked the
home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen need to 'obey'
that parent or parents? do those children/teens have to respect and
'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
Of course.
I mean, parents should be given the benefit of doubt in that they are
human beings, not some kind of perfect angels, but respect is earned.
Period.
If respect isn't something earned, it's not worth anything.
(On the other hand, who knows what "honor your mother and father" meant
to people back then? That culture is gone, thousands of years distant,
the context is lost.)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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07 Nov 2007 02:33:10 AM |
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On Nov 3, 12:02 am, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
Dear
I assume by your question that you have personally experienced
this issue of have a father and mother that were hard to honor. Since
you are a stranger on usenet I have no way of knowing if you are
correct in your estimation of your parents or if you are wrong.
I had an issue about my father. He had a problem with alcoholism
for many decades of his life. I do not mean just an addiction to
alcohol, but he had the serious emotional dimension to the alcohol
problem. I.e. sober he was the most rational, most decent person in
the world. But drunk he was an incredible irrational ***** and,
sufficiently drunk, he was emotionallly hostile and paranoid. It is
very hard to respect your father when you have heard him screaming at
your mother "You are more evil than Hitler".
I have no good answer to your issue about your parents. I do not
suggest that it is ALWAYS necessary to honor your parents. Yet it is
psychologically painful when one finds it impossible to respect one's
parents.
If you genuinely hate your parents, then you have a problem and
need psychiatric assistance. If you don't hate your parents, but
simply feel anger and outrage that they were irresponsible in your
opinion, well, I'm not sure how to advise you.
I'm simply going to sign off now and wish you well in resolving
this.
Mike
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03 Nov 2007 12:24:26 AM |
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On Nov 3, 12:02 am, wrote:
Do you think that children / teenagers of broken homes, who's parent
or parents have commited adultery (I mean had sexual affairs) got
divorced for very wrong & selfish reasons, re-married, therefore
wrecked the home & destroyed their family.... do those children/teen
need to 'obey' that parent or parents? do those children/teens have
to respect and 'honor' their parents who do that?
because I think, without a doubt, that they don't and shouldn't.
"Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother" should only apply to good, decent
parents.
not fucking ***** and ***** excuses for mothers & fathers who ***** up
their kids lives by having affairs, getting divorced, destroying
families... which is all too incredibly everyday in America.
The leader for the Republican nomination resents that.
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