Religions > Atheism > Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?
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14 Nov 2003 03:19:42 PM |
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Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? |
Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?
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17 Nov 2003 06:13:29 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:57:58 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:40:36 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:
Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.
My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.
Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.
"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says so.
Not drawing teeth, it's rewinding the movie over and over again and
hoping each time that the ending will be different. Give it up,
there's nobody home. :-)
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L8r,
Bill, the Avender
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I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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18 Nov 2003 12:19:08 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:13:29 GMT in alt.atheism, Bill, The Avender
(Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender)) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
In alt.atheism on Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:57:58 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:40:36 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:
Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.
My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.
Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.
"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says so.
Not drawing teeth, it's rewinding the movie over and over again and
hoping each time that the ending will be different. Give it up,
there's nobody home. :-)
I'm beginning to agree...
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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17 Nov 2003 07:23:18 PM |
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"Bill, The Avender" <Avender@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:57:58 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
<snip>
Not drawing teeth, it's rewinding the movie over and over again and
hoping each time that the ending will be different. Give it up,
there's nobody home. :-)
True enough but he's fun to play with sometimes and somebody has to watch
him.
If you watch his posts over time you see they vary a lot. It took me a
while to see what it reminded me of but I am firmly convinced he either
drinks a lot or goes off some meds on a regular basis.
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2003 05:47:29 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:13:29 GMT, (Bill, The Avender)
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I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says so.
Not drawing teeth, it's rewinding the movie over and over again and
hoping each time that the ending will be different. Give it up,
there's nobody home. :-)
You're right - you're not at home.
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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18 Nov 2003 07:44:22 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:47:29 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:13:29 GMT, (Bill, The Avender)
wrote:
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says so.
Not drawing teeth, it's rewinding the movie over and over again and
hoping each time that the ending will be different. Give it up,
there's nobody home. :-)
You're right - you're not at home.
heh... hurrrr... durrrrr.... hurrrrr.... yurrrr soo funnneeee...
huurrrr....
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L8r,
Bill, the Avender
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I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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21 Nov 2003 12:08:15 PM |
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On 17 Nov 2003, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> screwed up his face, groaned,
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:33oirv4m87mqo746qob63phhbnpgp41fv8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:40:36 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Which raises the question as to what you think the differences
between a universe without God and a universe with God would be.
My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without
God creating it.
Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.
"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says
so.
Let me put it this way, then, duke... if you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, how do you know it wouldn't be exactly like this
one?
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Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Nov 2003 05:32:36 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:08:15 GMT, Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>
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I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says
so.
Let me put it this way, then, duke... if you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, how do you know it wouldn't be exactly like this
one?
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the idiot
painterboy.
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| User: "Jim Balter" |
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| Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything alwaysexisted? |
22 Nov 2003 05:49:19 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:08:15 GMT, Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>
wrote:
I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says
so.
Let me put it this way, then, duke... if you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, how do you know it wouldn't be exactly like this
one?
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the idiot
painterboy.
You're rather slow, aren't you? If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
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<J Q B>
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Nov 2003 08:44:08 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:49:19 -0800, Jim Balter <spam@spam.spam> wrote:
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the idiot
painterboy.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
Be careful, it might be embarrassing for you.
If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
QED - we only know one - we can't know what the other would be like.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
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| User: "JessHC" |
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22 Nov 2003 05:19:04 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<aeturvs2k1hnl2doon7g63agokm92oei42@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:49:19 -0800, Jim Balter <spam@spam.spam> wrote:
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If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
QED - we only know one - we can't know what the other would be like.
Which of course doesn't answer the point. If you can't differentiate
a naturally arising universe from a divinely created one, you can't
claim to know this one arose divinely--you have no evidence to support
your claim. Or, rather, all the evidence you have indicates god acts
in such a way as to be indistinuishable from natural processes. This
is just another instance of you saying "I don't know, that's why I'm
correct."
You're rather slow, aren't you?
It only appears that way to you because we keep lapping you.
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| User: "Jim Balter" |
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22 Nov 2003 09:05:36 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:49:19 -0800, Jim Balter <spam@spam.spam> wrote:
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the idiot
painterboy.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
Be careful, it might be embarrassing for you.
I think not.
If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
QED - we only know one - we can't know what the other would be like.
You're missing the point.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
You're rather stupid -- too stupid to realize it.
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<J Q B>
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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22 Nov 2003 12:36:59 PM |
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"Jim Balter" <spam@spam.spam> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:49:19 -0800, Jim Balter <spam@spam.spam> wrote:
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a
godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the
idiot
painterboy.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
Be careful, it might be embarrassing for you.
I think not.
If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
QED - we only know one - we can't know what the other would be like.
You're missing the point.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
You're rather stupid -- too stupid to realize it.
He's not stupid. This answer is a borderline example of a type of behavior
typical to him.
He answers questions based on words in the question more than on the actual
content.
E.G. "Watch out because the time is coming." Earl might answer "My watch
keeps perfect time."
I think it's booze but it could be something else. Earl is probably over 61
so it could be early onset of Alzheimer's.
On the other hand this could just be one of his evasions.
Note to the cutest atheist.
Earl may never attain a mental age of 18 and his physical age is clearly
more than that. I can't see you with a short man with little man syndrome.
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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25 Nov 2003 07:17:47 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote in message
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"Jim Balter" <spam@spam.spam> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:49:19 -0800, Jim Balter <spam@spam.spam> wrote:
Now pay attention. I said right up there that I have no idea waht a
godless
universe would be like. Now you're starting to play games like the
idiot
painterboy.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
Be careful, it might be embarrassing for you.
I think not.
If you have no idea what a godless
universe would be like, then you can't know it wouldn't be
just like this one, in which case there couldn't be any evidence
against it. QED.
QED - we only know one - we can't know what the other would be like.
You're missing the point.
You're rather slow, aren't you?
You're rather stupid -- too stupid to realize it.
He's not stupid. This answer is a borderline example of a type of behavior
typical to him.
He answers questions based on words in the question more than on the
actual
content.
E.G. "Watch out because the time is coming." Earl might answer "My watch
keeps perfect time."
I think it's booze but it could be something else. Earl is probably over
61
so it could be early onset of Alzheimer's.
On the other hand this could just be one of his evasions.
Note to the cutest atheist.
Earl may never attain a mental age of 18 and his physical age is clearly
more than that. I can't see you with a short man with little man syndrome.
hehe. I thought duke was 17.....or am I thinking of a different kook? it's
*so hard to keep up lol
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25 Nov 2003 05:51:01 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:17:47 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
Note to the cutest atheist.
Earl may never attain a mental age of 18 and his physical age is clearly
more than that. I can't see you with a short man with little man syndrome.
hehe. I thought duke was 17.....or am I thinking of a different kook? it's
*so hard to keep up lol
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3 years high
school.
I'm actually 61, got my BSME in 1965.
And the difference between me and some of these turkeys in terms of real life
experiences is glaring. They have none.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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25 Nov 2003 08:20:26 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:17:47 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
Note to the cutest atheist.
Earl may never attain a mental age of 18 and his physical age is
clearly
more than that. I can't see you with a short man with little man
syndrome.
hehe. I thought duke was 17.....or am I thinking of a different kook?
it's
*so hard to keep up lol
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3 years high
school.
Earls's mind is slipping.
Sad little man. Afraid to admit he is wrong.
Afraid to tell us where he allegededly went to school.
I'm actually 61, got my BSME in 1965.
And the difference between me and some of these turkeys in terms of real
life
experiences is glaring. They have none.
How would you know that and how would we know you have anything but a desk
job as a menial engineer looking up things in tables to satisfy the needs of
the people doing the real design work?
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Nov 2003 05:31:20 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:26 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3 years high
school.
Earls's mind is slipping.
Sad little man. Afraid to admit he is wrong.
Afraid to tell us where he allegededly went to school.
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that I'm clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
But you are.
I'm actually 61, got my BSME in 1965.
And the difference between me and some of these turkeys in terms of real
life
experiences is glaring. They have none.
How would you know that
By your stupid remarks - which reflects no worldly experience at all.
and how would we know you have anything but a desk
job as a menial engineer looking up things in tables to satisfy the needs of
the people doing the real design work?
I don't care what you know.
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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26 Nov 2003 07:53:53 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:26 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3 years
high
school.
Earls's mind is slipping.
Sad little man. Afraid to admit he is wrong.
Afraid to tell us where he allegededly went to school.
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that I'm
clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
But you are.
I'm actually 61, got my BSME in 1965.
And the difference between me and some of these turkeys in terms of
real
life
experiences is glaring. They have none.
How would you know that
By your stupid remarks - which reflects no worldly experience at all.
and how would we know you have anything but a desk
job as a menial engineer looking up things in tables to satisfy the needs
of
the people doing the real design work?
I don't care what you know.
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
then answer my question, fraud. here, I'll post it for you again...
so, what does/did a BSc in mechanical engineering require you to actually
know? anything about chemistry? physics (if so, what kind)? geology?
biology? cosmology? ok, I put those last 3 in just to be an arrogant
smartass who knows about that stuff as well as the first two. but please,
enlighten me.
by the way, I'm 23, just so you feel that much more insecure ;)
I have friends who *are* mechanical engineers, so I can verify what you say.
*do* tell...
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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26 Nov 2003 09:45:34 PM |
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"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:26 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3 years
high
school.
Earls's mind is slipping.
Sad little man. Afraid to admit he is wrong.
Afraid to tell us where he allegededly went to school.
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that I'm
clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
Earl:
I'll put up anotehr $5000.00, the money to be held by the priest of your
choice.
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
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But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
According to Earl, and probably true in his case, he looks things up in
books.
then answer my question, fraud. here, I'll post it for you again...
so, what does/did a BSc in mechanical engineering require you to actually
know? anything about chemistry? physics (if so, what kind)? geology?
biology? cosmology? ok, I put those last 3 in just to be an arrogant
smartass who knows about that stuff as well as the first two. but please,
enlighten me.
by the way, I'm 23, just so you feel that much more insecure ;)
I have friends who *are* mechanical engineers, so I can verify what you
say.
*do* tell...
Tell then that Earl claims to have gone to a university and that when
questioned he said he went to an "engineering school" (That's a direct
quote).
As them how they refer to their school.
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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27 Nov 2003 12:10:15 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote in message
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"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:26 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
17 may well turn out to be painterboy's age. He admitted to 3
years
high
school.
Earls's mind is slipping.
Sad little man. Afraid to admit he is wrong.
Afraid to tell us where he allegededly went to school.
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that
I'm
clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
Earl:
I'll put up anotehr $5000.00, the money to be held by the priest of your
choice.
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer
system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
ooooo and I bet my 'immortal soul' tehe
<snip>
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
According to Earl, and probably true in his case, he looks things up in
books.
a mechanical engineer looks things up in books? I'm sure they do from time
to time, but that is definitely not their job description. unlike
theologists.....
then answer my question, fraud. here, I'll post it for you again...
so, what does/did a BSc in mechanical engineering require you to
actually
know? anything about chemistry? physics (if so, what kind)? geology?
biology? cosmology? ok, I put those last 3 in just to be an arrogant
smartass who knows about that stuff as well as the first two. but
please,
enlighten me.
by the way, I'm 23, just so you feel that much more insecure ;)
I have friends who *are* mechanical engineers, so I can verify what you
say.
*do* tell...
Tell then that Earl claims to have gone to a university and that when
questioned he said he went to an "engineering school" (That's a direct
quote).
As them how they refer to their school.
like all australian students doing a technical degree: uni
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27 Nov 2003 06:07:32 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:45:34 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that I'm
clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
Earl:
I'll put up anotehr $5000.00, the money to be held by the priest of your
choice.
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
Sorry, you refuse to discuss the particulars like:
a. I went to Princeton myself - I was a visitor one day.
b. Did you ever graduate?
c. I attended a one day seminar, and got a "degree" for it.
d & e. I already covered those.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
You're an untrustworthy type.
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
According to Earl, and probably true in his case, he looks things up in
books.
That's the classical way of learning.
Tell then that Earl claims to have gone to a university and that when
questioned he said he went to an "engineering school" (That's a direct
quote).
As them how they refer to their school.
You still can't comprehend that I have a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical
Engineering, can you?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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27 Nov 2003 12:04:13 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:45:34 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
What's the matter painterboy? Why should I admit to something that
I'm
clearly
and unquestionably not wrong about.
Earl:
I'll put up anotehr $5000.00, the money to be held by the priest of your
choice.
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer
system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
Sorry, you refuse to discuss the particulars like:
a. I went to Princeton myself - I was a visitor one day.
Three years in a cahtholic high school, seven in a catholic grade school.
b. Did you ever graduate?
Yes.
c. I attended a one day seminar, and got a "degree" for it.
That's nice, read what I said.
d & e. I already covered those.
Then those are the two you should pick and put your money where your
cowardly littlew mouth is.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
You're an untrustworthy type.
You don't trust anybody, not even yourt "friend" the catholic priest.
If you are right you gain $5000.00.
But you will not do it.
I doubt you woould do it even if you knew you were right.
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
According to Earl, and probably true in his case, he looks things up in
books.
That's the classical way of learning.
Tell then that Earl claims to have gone to a university and that when
questioned he said he went to an "engineering school" (That's a direct
quote).
As them how they refer to their school.
You still can't comprehend that I have a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical
Engineering, can you?
No evidence.
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2003 05:41:42 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:04:13 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer
system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
Sorry, you refuse to discuss the particulars like:
a. I went to Princeton myself - I was a visitor one day.
Three years in a cahtholic high school, seven in a catholic grade school.
And yet you learned nothing.
b. Did you ever graduate?
Yes.
Ummmmmm, one of those graduates, I see.
c. I attended a one day seminar, and got a "degree" for it.
That's nice, read what I said.
I did read it. You never said anything about graduating from a state college or
a university.
d & e. I already covered those.
Then those are the two you should pick and put your money where your
cowardly littlew mouth is.
You're afraid to make the deal.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
You're an untrustworthy type.
You don't trust anybody, not even yourt "friend" the catholic priest.
Of course I do.
If you are right you gain $5000.00.
But you will not do it.
I doubt you woould do it even if you knew you were right.
You won't make the deal.
You still can't comprehend that I have a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical
Engineering, can you?
No evidence.
There is no evidence you completed 7 years of Catholic grade school either.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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27 Nov 2003 07:23:51 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:04:13 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
You may bet on any two of the following.
a. I went to a Catholic high school.
b. I have four years of high school.
c. A degree from a state college or university.
d. Lungs are a gas exchange system as opposed to an oxygen transfer
system.
e. The RCC allows you to interpret the bible.
Sorry, you refuse to discuss the particulars like:
a. I went to Princeton myself - I was a visitor one day.
Three years in a cahtholic high school, seven in a catholic grade school.
And yet you learned nothing.
b. Did you ever graduate?
Yes.
Ummmmmm, one of those graduates, I see.
c. I attended a one day seminar, and got a "degree" for it.
That's nice, read what I said.
I did read it. You never said anything about graduating from a state
college or
a university.
Maybe in lousiana they do things differently.
In most of the USA you get a degree when you graduate.
Not that it's important. The bet is that I have a degree.
But maybe your ' I attended a one day seminar, and got a "degree" for it.'
and your claim to have a degree in ME is the reason for the statement.
d & e. I already covered those.
Then those are the two you should pick and put your money where your
cowardly littlew mouth is.
You're afraid to make the deal.
You will again chicken out.
Sad little man.
You're an untrustworthy type.
You don't trust anybody, not even yourt "friend" the catholic priest.
Of course I do.
If you are right you gain $5000.00.
But you will not do it.
I doubt you woould do it even if you knew you were right.
You won't make the deal.
You still can't comprehend that I have a Bachelor of Science in
Mechanical
Engineering, can you?
No evidence.
There is no evidence you completed 7 years of Catholic grade school
either.
I'm willing to put my money up. You continue to make excuses.
All you have to do is tell your priest about it.
But then he'd find out about all of it.
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2003 05:58:10 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:53:53 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
then answer my question, fraud. here, I'll post it for you again...
Fraud? Why a fraud - just because you don't know what an engineer is?
so, what does/did a BSc in mechanical engineering require you to actually
know? anything about chemistry? physics (if so, what kind)? geology?
biology? cosmology? ok, I put those last 3 in just to be an arrogant
smartass who knows about that stuff as well as the first two. but please,
enlighten me.
Already answered in part.
A ME also studied math thru calculus to differential equations, metallurgy,
statics, strength of materials, stress analysis, dynamics, gas dynamics,
thermodynamics, heat transfer, therory of controls, fluid flow, AC/DC electrical
theory, motors --- probably a little more that I've forgotten about.
Plus the usual like English, law, history, speech, what else?
by the way, I'm 23, just so you feel that much more insecure ;)
I have friends who *are* mechanical engineers, so I can verify what you say.
*do* tell...
Then I'm in great shape.
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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28 Nov 2003 01:26:40 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:a4pbsvoemc1e3qmenhu1gone4ea5l85ful@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:53:53 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
But I am sure you don't know what an engineer does.
then answer my question, fraud. here, I'll post it for you again...
Fraud? Why a fraud - just because you don't know what an engineer is?
hmmm. you are a very stupid individual
so, what does/did a BSc in mechanical engineering require you to actually
know? anything about chemistry? physics (if so, what kind)? geology?
biology? cosmology? ok, I put those last 3 in just to be an arrogant
smartass who knows about that stuff as well as the first two. but please,
enlighten me.
Already answered in part.
A ME also studied math thru calculus to differential equations,
metallurgy,
statics, strength of materials, stress analysis, dynamics, gas dynamics,
thermodynamics, heat transfer, therory of controls, fluid flow, AC/DC
electrical
theory, motors --- probably a little more that I've forgotten about.
probably a little more than google told you
Plus the usual like English, law, history, speech, what else?
and what kind of institution felt this was part of a science degree?
by the way, I'm 23, just so you feel that much more insecure ;)
I have friends who *are* mechanical engineers, so I can verify what you
say.
*do* tell...
Then I'm in great shape.
you're not. I still don't believe you. what you've said is part of a correct
answer, but it doesn't mean you're telling the truth
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| User: "ArWeGod" |
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28 Nov 2003 04:35:08 AM |
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"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QMCxb.30495$aT.21181@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
....huge snip cos I don't have clue what this is about and want to make inane
remarks in hopes the cutest atheist will like me...
you're not. I still don't believe you. what you've said is part of a
correct
answer, but it doesn't mean you're telling the truth
So it's a normal post to alt.atheism! :-)
-ArWeGod
p.s. Could you see my eyelids fluttering?
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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29 Nov 2003 04:38:04 AM |
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"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:wxFxb.26943$6%4.14133@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QMCxb.30495$aT.21181@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
...huge snip cos I don't have clue what this is about and want to make
inane
remarks in hopes the cutest atheist will like me...
haha I already like you
you're not. I still don't believe you. what you've said is part of a
correct
answer, but it doesn't mean you're telling the truth
So it's a normal post to alt.atheism! :-)
lol
-ArWeGod
p.s. Could you see my eyelids fluttering?
no, but it's a good thing to know ;)
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| User: "JessHC" |
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27 Nov 2003 09:45:27 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<a4pbsvoemc1e3qmenhu1gone4ea5l85ful@4ax.com>...
<snip>
A ME also studied math thru calculus to differential equations, metallurgy,
statics, strength of materials, stress analysis, dynamics, gas dynamics,
thermodynamics, heat transfer, therory of controls, fluid flow, AC/DC electrical
theory, motors --- probably a little more that I've forgotten about.
Plus the usual like English, law, history, speech, what else?
I hope you did considerably better in your math and science classes
than you did in English and speech.
<snip>
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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27 Nov 2003 11:59:24 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<a4pbsvoemc1e3qmenhu1gone4ea5l85ful@4ax.com>...
<snip>
A ME also studied math thru calculus to differential equations,
metallurgy,
statics, strength of materials, stress analysis, dynamics, gas dynamics,
thermodynamics, heat transfer, therory of controls, fluid flow, AC/DC
electrical
theory, motors --- probably a little more that I've forgotten about.
Plus the usual like English, law, history, speech, what else?
I hope you did considerably better in your math and science classes
than you did in English and speech.
He says 53% of he world belives in the christian god. Most sources say 1/6
of teh world.
Since Earl is never wrong that meansd that .53 = 1/6
He did not ever seem to catch on to the partial pressure problem so his
science is suspect.
<snip>
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2003 05:45:28 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:59:24 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
He says 53% of he world belives in the christian god. Most sources say 1/6
of teh world.
Nope: 1 in 6 people in the world today are Roman Catholic. Adding other
Catholics and Protestants, etc, it's 1 in 3 profess Christ. Adding Jews and
Muslims, 53% of the current world population believe in the same almighty God.
Since Earl is never wrong that meansd that .53 = 1/6
He did not ever seem to catch on to the partial pressure problem so his
science is suspect.
That one was clearly over your head.
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