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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "one that cries out in the wilderness"
Date: 14 Nov 2003 03:19:42 PM
Object: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?
Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?
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User: "Kenneth Doyle"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 05:45:36 PM
"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com:

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I believe that the theory of cosmology predicts the big bang AND that the
universe always existed, given that "always" means "since the beginning of
time".
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User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 15 Nov 2003 11:00:59 PM
"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


I believe only I exist and that I'm dreaming all of this. So far,
experimental data confirms this hypothesis.
Oh, and I only started dreaming this last thursday, round 4.15
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 04:18:36 PM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:00:59 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I believe only I exist and that I'm dreaming all of this. So far,
experimental data confirms this hypothesis.
Oh, and I only started dreaming this last thursday, round 4.15

Start dreaming that I live in Oz, and that religion doesn't exist. :)
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
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User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 09:25:22 PM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:4ttfrvc4ih0e04et65hg0et86161v93f9c@Pern.rk...

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:00:59 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


I believe only I exist and that I'm dreaming all of this. So far,
experimental data confirms this hypothesis.


Oh, and I only started dreaming this last thursday, round 4.15


Start dreaming that I live in Oz, and that religion doesn't exist. :)

hehe what a lovely dream
if you ever come to sydney, we'll do lunch eh? and bring your lovely wife.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 11:38:30 PM
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:25:22 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

if you ever come to sydney, we'll do lunch eh? and bring your lovely wife.

Sidney? I'll have to bring my lovely charge card, from what I've
heard. But you have a date, you cute thing, you.
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 18 Nov 2003 12:14:26 AM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:25:22 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

if you ever come to sydney, we'll do lunch eh? and bring your lovely

wife.


Sidney? I'll have to bring my lovely charge card, from what I've
heard. But you have a date, you cute thing, you.

awwwww. sweet. but as hostess I must pay, and Sydney is pretty expensive,
yeah, specially here in the north east. but it's worth it, I think
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 08:28:22 PM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:18:36 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:00:59 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


I believe only I exist and that I'm dreaming all of this. So far,
experimental data confirms this hypothesis.


Oh, and I only started dreaming this last thursday, round 4.15


Start dreaming that I live in Oz, and that religion doesn't exist. :)

I live in Oz and there is little religion here.

--

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
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User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 18 Nov 2003 12:20:31 AM
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:18:36 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:00:59 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always

existed?


I believe only I exist and that I'm dreaming all of this. So far,
experimental data confirms this hypothesis.


Oh, and I only started dreaming this last thursday, round 4.15


Start dreaming that I live in Oz, and that religion doesn't exist. :)


I live in Oz and there is little religion here.

ever been to the heaven club in the valley in brisbane?? it's a church with
the pews taken out asnd a trapeze suspended from the ceiling which, when I
was there, a fabulous drag queen in angel wings and not much else was
swinging from. Here, not a peep about it, but imagine what they'd do to
owners and patrons alike if that setup was in the continental united
fundyland....
I reckon we should steal the title 'Land of the Free'
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 11:39:10 PM
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:28:22 +1100, Barry OGrady
<god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

I live in Oz and there is little religion here.

That's still much too much of it for my taste. None would be getting
closer.
--
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 21 Nov 2003 09:05:01 AM
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:39:10 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:28:22 +1100, Barry OGrady
<god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:

I live in Oz and there is little religion here.


That's still much too much of it for my taste. None would be getting
closer.

There is way too much.

--

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
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User: "SDG&E"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 04:00:40 PM
"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I dunno.
Since I am not most atheists, I can only tell you what *I know.
Ah Hemm...(throat clearing)
OK, I know there are different theories on how the universe began/did
not begin.
[ bows to the applause ]
Thank you very much.
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User: "Ron Baker"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 05:12:30 PM
"SDG&E" <noone@this.address> wrote in message news:3fb550a1_3@127.0.0.1...


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I dunno.
Since I am not most atheists, I can only tell you what *I know.
Ah Hemm...(throat clearing)

OK, I know there are different theories on how the universe began/did
not begin.

[ bows to the applause ]

Thank you very much.

[clap, clap, clap, clap]
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User: "GreenEggsNSpam"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 04:19:12 PM
Brilliantly spoken :-)
"SDG&E" <noone@this.address> wrote in message news:3fb550a1_3@127.0.0.1...


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I dunno.
Since I am not most atheists, I can only tell you what *I know.
Ah Hemm...(throat clearing)

OK, I know there are different theories on how the universe began/did
not begin.

[ bows to the applause ]

Thank you very much.




.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything alwaysexisted? 15 Nov 2003 10:43:47 PM
SDG&E wrote:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I dunno.
Since I am not most atheists, I can only tell you what *I know.
Ah Hemm...(throat clearing)

OK, I know there are different theories on how the universe began/did
not begin.

[ bows to the applause ]

Thank you very much...

.....buddy, there's an 'Oscar' for you if you keep it up
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 19 Nov 2003 11:51:20 AM
On 15 Nov 2003 22:43:47 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>,
Message ID: <3FB6FE3D.22DE3F0B@netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;



SDG&E wrote:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

I dunno.
Since I am not most atheists, I can only tell you what *I know.
Ah Hemm...(throat clearing)

OK, I know there are different theories on how the universe began/did
not begin.

[ bows to the applause ]

Thank you very much...


....buddy, there's an 'Oscar' for you if you keep it up

....meyer weiner...... :))))))))))
::::::FFFFFLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"""""""""""""""


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 18 Nov 2003 12:14:16 PM
"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

Or, perhaps both at the same time - so-called "M Theory" postulates that the
Big Bang may have been caused by the collision of membranes in
11-dimensional space.
--
Peacenik
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 21 Nov 2003 09:05:07 AM
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:14:16 GMT, "Peacenik" <criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:

"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


Or, perhaps both at the same time - so-called "M Theory" postulates that the
Big Bang may have been caused by the collision of membranes in
11-dimensional space.

Troll.

--
Peacenik

-Barry
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User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 21 Nov 2003 03:33:20 PM
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ucasrvcg81ka7j8lsppbnv8kqaf7gatmag@4ax.com...

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:14:16 GMT, "Peacenik"

<criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


Or, perhaps both at the same time - so-called "M Theory" postulates that

the

Big Bang may have been caused by the collision of membranes in
11-dimensional space.


Troll.

How on earth does my post qualify as trolling?
--
Peacenik
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 05:55:20 PM
"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?

This atheist agrees that the big bang theory seems to be the best
explanation currently available that encompasses all the facts. It has
already provided a prediction that matched subsequent observations, namely
the microwave background radiation.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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User: "Levy Oates"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 PM
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:20 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


This atheist agrees that the big bang theory seems to be the best
explanation currently available that encompasses all the facts. It has
already provided a prediction that matched subsequent observations, namely
the microwave background radiation.

....and it predicted the abundancies of H, D, He and Li.
---------
Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 08:28:23 PM
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:20 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


This atheist agrees that the big bang theory seems to be the best
explanation currently available that encompasses all the facts. It has
already provided a prediction that matched subsequent observations, namely
the microwave background radiation.

There is some evidence but it assumes that nothing changed over millions
of years so we can work backwards to a single point. But that makes no
more sense than assuming that if we compress a file enough times we
would get down to a single bit.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 15 Nov 2003 12:18:00 PM
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:20 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


This atheist agrees that the big bang theory seems to be the best
explanation currently available that encompasses all the facts. It has
already provided a prediction that matched subsequent observations, namely
the microwave background radiation.

Not a consideration. God creating the universe as an infinitely small point of
infinite density exploding outward, or an accident exploding outward produces
the same background radiation.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 15 Nov 2003 12:34:22 PM
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:18:00 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:20 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:


"one that cries out in the wilderness" <i.m.@peace> wrote in message
news:3fb5435a$0$35841$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com...

Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed?


This atheist agrees that the big bang theory seems to be the best
explanation currently available that encompasses all the facts. It has
already provided a prediction that matched subsequent observations, namely
the microwave background radiation.


Not a consideration. God creating the universe as an infinitely small point of
infinite density exploding outward, or an accident exploding outward produces
the same background radiation.

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.
--
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 08:38:59 AM
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:34:22 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Not a consideration. God creating the universe as an infinitely small point of
infinite density exploding outward, or an accident exploding outward produces
the same background radiation.

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.

My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 09:06:50 AM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:38:59 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:34:22 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Not a consideration. God creating the universe as an infinitely small point of
infinite density exploding outward, or an accident exploding outward produces
the same background radiation.


Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.


My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.

Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
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User: "Mekkala"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 04:14:51 PM
On 16 Nov 2003, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6i4frvsapai4n1ene43m8lsaujfs7uku8u@4ax.com:



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:38:59 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:34:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:

Not a consideration. God creating the universe as an infinitely
small point of infinite density exploding outward, or an accident
exploding outward produces the same background radiation.


Which raises the question as to what you think the differences
between a universe without God and a universe with God would be.


My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God
creating it.


Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?

Exactly like this one, of course. But you won't hear duke admitting it.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 01:09:38 PM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.

My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.

Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?

I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 16 Nov 2003 01:40:36 PM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.


My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.


Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?


I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.

"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 19 Nov 2003 11:53:45 AM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:40:36 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com>, Message ID:
<pjkfrvs8dr92sqdp1fnulovo0aj50kq56s@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.


My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.


Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?


I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.


"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...

Puke isn't equipped with an imagination either.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Do most atheists believe in big bang or that everything always existed? 17 Nov 2003 05:57:58 PM
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:40:36 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:09:38 -0600 in alt.atheism, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:06:50 +0000, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:

Which raises the question as to what you think the differences between
a universe without God and a universe with God would be.


My personal belief - there's no such thing as a universe without God creating
it.


Really? I'd never have guessed! But what do you think a universe
without a God, that arose through natural processes, would be like?


I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist.


"I swear, It's like drawing teeth...". Yes I know that's what you
think, but try and use your imagination...

I have no idea. Something like that doesn't exist. The evidence says so.
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