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| > | > | > | >I don't impose laws, Scout - and neither do you.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > We as a society do.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Then 'WE' need to make sure we don't allow such laws to be
| > enacted,
| > | > nor
| > | > | > call
| > | > | > | for such laws to be enacted, and oppose it when such laws
are
| > | > proposed.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | You can push it off on "society" but that's just ignoring
the
| > | > results
| > | > of
| > | > | > | individual actions that cummulativly result in such a mess.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You're making the assumption, Scout that yours is the only
"right"
| > | > | > opinion.
| > | > | > The people who enact such laws feel theirs are just as valid
as
| > | > yours -
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > have gotten their representatives to see things their way.
| > | > |
| > | > | Yep, which is why the law is ignored. Pass a stupid law and I
don't
| > care
| > | > how
| > | > | "right" you feel your point of view is, I shall ignore it if I
find
| > it
| > | > too
| > | > | objectionable to stand.
| > | >
| > | > No, the law isn't ignored.
| > |
| > | So no one ever breaks the law?
| > |
| > | > It is ignored by a segment of the population.
| > |
| > | First you say it's not ignored....then you admit it is.
| > |
| > | You need to make up your mind here.
| >
| > Stop taking small snippettes and trying to make your argument, Scout.
| > Because a minority choose not to follow the law does not mean the law
is
| > "ignored" by the general population.
|
| Ok, I'll accept this revisionism of your statement.

To hell with revision. The law isn't ignored - not by the majority nor by
law enforcement. Quit trying to squirm out.

| However, I know of laws
| that are regularly ignored by the general population because they are
| nonsense. Other laws are regularly ignored because people find them too
| limiting, objectionable, or offensive.

Well drug laws apparently don't fall into any of those categories.

| After all, the whole point of this was the drug laws, and if those
aren't
an
| example of laws regularly ignored by the general population....then why
are
| we having such a problem with illegal drugs?????

Who knows? I'm not an expert on why anyone would want to shove ***** in
their veins. But I suspect it has something to do with people who have
become addicted to something. Think that might have something to do with
why it is illegal?

|
|
| > |
| > | >> And when they are caught, they go to prison - and that screws
their
| > whole
| > | > lives over - which should be all the proof you need that your
harmless
| > | > drugs
| > | > aren't so harmless afterall.
| > |
| > | Ah, so the drugs screw up people's lives not because of the drugs,
but
| > | because a bunch of self rightous people have decided that they
should
be
| > | able to screw of the lived of people who don't conform to their
ideals
| > of
| > | what is "proper"?
| >
| > Is that your belief?
|
| I said it, didn't I?

Then maybe you should spend less time in Usenet fantasy land and more time
with people who have done drugs, let the drug cost them everything in
life,
and will tell you the horror isn't make believe.

"Drug use" is more than a couple of kids sitting around smoking a joint,
Scout.

| > |
| > |
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | > "Those" people and their opinions are just as valid as yours.
| > | > |
| > | > | Yep, but when people ignore the law....don't ***** about it.
| > | >
| > | > I don't. I sent them to prison. By the same token - don't *****
when
| > you
| > | > get caught and lose contact with your family, lose your job, lose
your
| > | > car,
| > | > etc.
| > |
| > | So I shouldn't get upset because of self rightous tyranny?
| > |
| > | Care to tell me what/when I should get upset due to infringement of
my
| > | rights?
| >
| > You don't have a "Right" to do drugs, Scout.
|
| Amendment IX
|
| The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
| construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

That has nothing to do with whether or not the States have the right to
make
drugs illegal, Scout.

been reading on the pro-druggie blogs.

|
|
| > You may want to do drugs.
| >
| > You may like to do drugs.
| >
| > But doing drugs has never been established as one of the God given
Rights
| > established under the Constitution.
|
| Free hint: The Constitution did not establish rights.

Right back at ya:
The "Bill of Rights" are amendments to the Constitution of the United
States
of America - and therefore, part of the Constitution.

You like your crow pie hot or cold?