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Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure
there are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies
our most cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like
to be treated.
We are taught it from childhood. We learn it from our parents. We learn
it at school. But more than any other place, we learn it in our churches
because it comes straight from the Bible. Found in Matthew, chapter 7
verse 12, it is in essence a summation of the Ten Commandments and the
Beatitudes from Christ's teaching. If you don't want to be ripped off,
don't rip off others. If you don't want your spouse to cheat on you,
don't cheat on your spouse. If you don't want to be judged, don't judge.
Now it's true we don't always abide by the Golden Rule. We often hurt
others in ways we, ourselves, would not like perpetrated against us.
Some of life's hardest lessons are actually reminders that we have
treated another in a way we would hate to be treated ourselves.
But there are some among us who never seem to break the Golden Rule.
Rather than struggling just to live up to a moral code, these people are
on the other side, the high moral ground as it were, and they spend
their time helping to enforce it. These people are our culture's
guardians, our vanguard whose presence keeps reminding us that we should
live by a higher standard, particularly the one embodied in our most
Golden of rules. As stated above, they are our churches.
But even among these valued institutions, there are some that take their
role more seriously than the rest. They are on the forefront of the
battle to keep our nation, its institutions, and its citizens abiding by
the morals encompassed in the Golden Rule. They are vocal, political,
and committed. They are known collectively as the Religious Right, a
name given them by the Press, and more commonly function under such
names as The Christian Coalition, Operation Rescue, The Family Research
Council, Focus on the Family, The Southern Baptist Convention, and
scores of others. They include many denominations and a host of
unaffiliated churches that call themselves "nondenominational,"
"community," or often simply "Bible" churches. Though they function as
separate entities, they are loosely united in their role as cultural
overseers, bound by the common goal of defending traditional moral
values in our society.
Can we not assume, then, that this group - the Religious Right, who have
set themselves up as the defenders of the Golden Rule - that they,
themselves, must clearly be following it? And if that is true, can we
not also assume, therefore, that the things they are doing to others are
the very things they wish others would do to them?
We must assume it is true. For if they are not following the Golden Rule
themselves, then how can they expect others to believe they are
defenders of it? And if they are indeed doing things to others that they
would not want done to them, then how can any of us believe them when
they speak of other values we should embrace?
Either they are liars, and we should simply ignore them; or our
assumption is true, and we should be doing to them as they are doing to
us. Based on the belief that the Religious Right indeed see themselves
as defenders of the Golden Rule, it is not inappropriate, therefore, to
make the following suggestions on what we should be doing to them.
1. Picket Their Churches
The Religious Right have taken the position that verbal and sometimes
physical confrontation is an acceptable method of enforcing morals. They
picket abortion clinics, often getting physically in the way of women
entering and leaving (even where new laws apply to prevent it), and
almost always emotionally battering the woman exercising her
constitutional right to control her body and her reproductive system. It
isn't bad enough that these woman have already gone through long hours
of torturous debate and have finally chosen an abortion - probably as a
last resort - these picketers must lob their emotional atomic bombs on
already tortured women, giving little thought to the devastation caused
when a horde of angry protesters focus their attention on one person at
a most vulnerable time in a most private issue.
And this does not even take into account those in the Religious Right
who believe God wants them to inflict bodily harm on these women, as
well as on the workers inside the clinics. Claiming a little-discussed
but widely-held belief called "Justifiable Homicide" (this is the belief
used by many Christians to support the death penalty for convicted
murderers), these extremists of the extreme blow up clinics and shoot
women and doctors in their attempts to defend their morals - and they do
it in the name of a moral God.
Based on their actions, it is clear that the Religious Right would like
us to do the same to them.
While blowing up churches and killing preachers is surely a violation of
other morals we hold dear (as well as being downright illegal), it
should be perfectly acceptable for us to picket and confront members of
Religious Right churches and parachurch organizations as they enter and
leave their buildings.
Go to their churches on Sunday Morning. You can find out when services
begin by reading the Saturday newspaper. Take big signs with horrible
pictures of people who have committed suicide because of the torment
caused them by the Religious Right, and wave your signs in their faces.
Yell at them. Pick out the nice family with kids in their Sunday best,
and get in front of them. Confront these people with the damage their
kids will suffer by being raised in such an intolerant institution. Wave
your gruesome signs in front of little old ladies, and tell them how
their donations are being used to cause such carnage to young women at
abortion clinics, and to women who wish to get equal pay for equal work,
and to young Gays seeking answers.
And if the Religious Right truly means what they say, then they will
thank you for following their example.
2. Disrupt Their Meetings
The Religious Right have shown support for the idea that public
outbursts at gatherings of the "morally-challenged" is a justifiable
method of spreading the word. They have disrupted rallies that support
equal rights for Gays. They have gotten into shouting matches at
meetings of Liberal politicians. They have heckled leaders of Planned
Parenthood when they give speeches.
Based on their actions, do we not have a mandate to do the same to them?
In your Sunday best, go into their sanctuaries and wait for the service
to begin. Plant yourselves in different places interspersed between the
regular members. Then, in five or ten minute intervals, take turns
standing up and yelling at the preacher and the congregation. Heckle
them about their support of oppressive legislation. Shout out against
their opposition to equal rights for women. Disrupt their services with
arguments against their stance on homosexuality.
By spreading out and waiting between outbursts, you can avoid the
possibility of all of you being escorted out of the building after the
first disruption. The church leaders won't be able to pick you out of
the crowd until you are already standing and shouting. With enough
people, you can effectively disrupt the entire hour-long meeting, making
it impossible for the church's members to ignore your protest.
And if you do it well, the Religious Right will be truly impressed with
your ability to do to them what they have been doing to us.
3. Picket Their Schools
The Religious Right have been active in our education system for
decades, but now they are hanging out en masse at public schools in
order to picket the curriculum or hand out anti-abortion pamphlets. They
are preying on our children in a covert attempt to infuse certain values
that the parents somehow failed to instill or to rally students against
values being taught in their schools. They meet kids as they get off the
bus, pushing flyers with pictures of aborted fetuses into their faces.
They march back and forth in front of the curb, where students are
trying to enter the school, chanting against sex education and condoms.
They rally at school board meetings, trying to force a curriculum that
is more in line with their moral ideals.
Based on this example, we need to be doing the same thing to them at
their Christian schools.
Meet their students at their buses, or at the curb as parents drop them
off, and give them flyers on safe sex, or better yet, hand out free
condoms. March back and forth in front of the curb, so kids walking to
school have to pass between you, and chant against their anti-gay or
anti-abortion rights teachings. Be loud and forceful. Go to their board
meetings (if you can, since a lot of them are private) and proclaim your
desire that they promote a more diverse curriculum.
Do this, and the Religious Right will surely take your imitation of them
as the highest form of flattery.
4. Boycott Their Companies
The Religious Right have now taken to boycotting companies that promote
a lifestyle that exists in opposition to their moral code. The Southern
Baptists have entered into a year-long boycott of Walt Disney, its
parks, its movies, and its products, because of the company's television
show, "Ellen," whose central character has come out as openly Gay. Focus
on the Family has put out a fact sheet naming companies that offer
benefits to same-sex couples just as they do married couples, such as
AT&T, and are asking members to boycott them. Some of those companies
also host Gay-oriented events, so they are particularly targeted. Other
Religious Right organizations are now calling for their members to abide
by these ongoing boycotts. Their goal is to apply pressure in order to
defend morality by making it a financial hardship for those who don't
comply.
In light of this demonstration of power brokering, we should follow suit
by boycotting businesses owned by members of the Religious Right.
Get a copy of the "Christian Yellow Pages." Most large cities have one,
and they can usually be found in the local Christian book store. In
smaller towns you need only talk to the locals to discover which
businesses are owned by members of the Religious Right. Find them, and
print up a list of the best targets. Hand it out on street corners. Send
it to the local media (unless the paper is owned by such a person, in
which case they will do the unethical thing - they won't cover the
story). Picket in front of the targeted businesses if you must. The
important thing is to let it be known that you are boycotting these
businesses because they are owned by people who promote an agenda that
discriminates against a person's right to choose whom they love. Use
your purchase power to make it a financial hardship to those who wish to
control your love life.
By using your power in such a way, you'll surely impress the Religious
Right with your ability to learn from their methods.
5. Put Up Candidates In Small, Local Elections
The Religious Right have tried for years to get their agenda recognized
by major political players. In 1988, they went so far as to run for
president, in the person of Pat Robertson, president of the Christian
Broadcasting Network. They have tried to seed the ranks of the
Republican party with their members and have threatened to pull their
support from candidates who don't bend to their moral demands. But they
have failed to gain a large enough foothold to change things on a big scale.
What they have done, however, that has had a major impact in the local
arena is to target small but important local elections and work to put
their people in those positions. They have placed their supporters on
school boards. They have placed their supporters on health boards. They
have placed their supporters on city councils. They have done it by
picking fights that won't draw much attention to their ultimate goal and
that generally have a low voter turn out. All they need do is convince
their members, in the protected confines of their churches, to turn out
in large enough numbers that their sheer presence will assure a victory.
The end effect has been the gradual filling of key city and county
administrative positions by people with enough power to affect
educational curriculum (targeted to keep Gay-friendly materials out of
schools), health services (where funding for pregnancy prevention
programs can be cut), and local laws (where measures that would protect
Gays from discrimination can be voted down).
In light of this brilliant, if subversive, strategy, we can learn a
lesson on how we should be doing the same in order to protect our civil
liberties.
People of conscience, who are opposed to the agenda of the Religious
Right, must band together and put forth their own candidates for these
positions. Churches have a ready-made avenue for doing this. We do not.
It will be more difficult for us, then, because we must first create an
environment where we can work together as well as local churches already
can. But we must do it, and we must then put forth candidates who can be
voted into office without disclosing their objectives. And then we can
assure them victory simply by voting en masse at these low-turnout
elections.
And if we get our people elected, we will surely earn the praise of the
Religious Right strategists who have championed the idea through the years.
6. Mislead Their Youth.
Our final suggestion may seem less brash than the previous ones, but it
is by far the most devious - and the Religious Right have been doing it
for years.
It's simple, subtle, and effective. What they do is create a social or
cultural event they know kids like and then force their message as a
part of the event. A good example is the "free rock concert." Kids love
rock music, and, being poor for the most part, they like events that are
free. Knowing this, a local Religious Right church or parachurch
organization will rent a local school auditorium and hire a Christian
rock band (most of which simply borrow their musical styles from what's
playing on the radio rather than create their own) and hand out flyers
inviting young people to a free rock concert. This brings in lots of
unsuspecting teens. Then, either during or at the end of the show, the
band will stop and the preaching will begin. Kids who would not normally
go to a church suddenly find that the church has come to them. And
parents who don't want their kids to be instilled with the values of the
Religious Right are nowhere around to protect them. Some groups even
block the exits to keep people from leaving during the sermon.
The band or preacher then does what is called an "alter call." This is
where they ask these kids, now in the spotlight and under pressure from
the other Christian kids, to come forward and choose a new lifestyle,
one replete with the church's morals and values. The pressure is
enormous, and many kids who would otherwise reject such beliefs find
themselves going forward to proclaim something they don't fully understand.
An extreme version of this happened recently in Colorado Springs, home
to a large number of Religious Right organizations like Focus on the
Family. A Baptist church hosted a carnival for neighborhood children.
While at the carnival, and without their parents to intervene, kids were
pulled aside and told they would go to hell unless they were baptized in
the church. Many kids, out of fear, complied. Some later complained to
their parents that they were forced to take off their clothes and put on
robes and be briefly held underwater as part of the ceremony. The
parents are now suing the church.
But if the Religious Right feel these kinds of subversive tactics are
acceptable as a means of defending good morals in our country, then we
should use the same tactics on them.
Find a local Gay or Lesbian band that is willing to go along, and set up
a free concert. Bill it as a free Christian music event, and print up
flyers to be passed around at all the local Religious Right churches and
parachurch organizations. Put them on car windows in the Focus on the
Family, 700 Club, or local church parking lots. Get the word out. And
make sure you use the right jargon. Just as unsuspecting teens are
attracted by a "free rock concert," kids indoctrinated into the
Religious Right's mentality will be attracted to an event that appears
genuinely Christian. Use the word "Christian" a lot. Also put in words
like "Born Again" and "Family Values." These are flag words used by the
Religious Right to test whether an event is truly to their liking.
Create a name for your concert promotion entity that also serves this
purpose. Use titles like, "Family Values Crusade" or "Born Again
Entertainment."
At the event, place a large number of "helpers" near the back of the
auditorium to "encourage" kids not to get up and leave. Then, toward the
end of the concert, stop the music and start preaching about the need
for kids to practice good safe sex. Use examples of both Gay and Lesbian
sexual encounters, and even have a Gay band member give a testimonial of
how a condom saved his life. At the end of the speech, ask those kids
not currently practicing safe sex to come forward and receive free
condoms. Use persuasive language. Make them feel guilty if they don't
come forward. One way the Religious Right does this is to have everyone
close their eyes and bow their heads, and then in a low, soft voice ask
all those who have sinned to raise their hands. No one else is suppose
to see them, but of course the leaders in the back of the room do. You
can do the same thing by asking those who have practiced unsafe sex to
raise their hands, and then encourage those who did so to come forward
and receive the gift of the rubber condom.
To be sure, it sounds like a devious ploy, but we have to remember that
if the Religious Right believe it is a good tactic to reach our children
with their message, then they must also believe it is a good tactic for
us to reach theirs. Put on a good show, and they will surely be amazed
that we believe in our values as much as they believe in theirs.
Indeed, all of the aforementioned suggestions might seem quite brash for
good people to perpetrate against our churches, but we must remember
that in doing these things we are merely doing unto the Religious Right
as they have done unto us. We must remember, that in using these
strategies against us, the Religious Right is asking us, dare we say,
begging us, to return the favor. For indeed, people of such high moral
values most certainly would not engage in activities that they would not
desire to be done unto them.
So break out the signs and look through the papers. There are churches
everywhere waiting to be touched by our protests (after all, they want
us to be good Protestants don't they?). It's time to show them we love
them just as they have shown that they love us.
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Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
We are taught it from childhood. We learn it from our parents. We learn it
at school. But more than any other place, we learn it in our churches
because it comes straight from the Bible. Found in Matthew, chapter 7
verse 12, it is in essence a summation of the Ten Commandments and the
Beatitudes from Christ's teaching. If you don't want to be ripped off,
don't rip off others. If you don't want your spouse to cheat on you, don't
cheat on your spouse. If you don't want to be judged, don't judge.
Now it's true we don't always abide by the Golden Rule. We often hurt
others in ways we, ourselves, would not like perpetrated against us. Some
of life's hardest lessons are actually reminders that we have treated
another in a way we would hate to be treated ourselves.
But there are some among us who never seem to break the Golden Rule.
Rather than struggling just to live up to a moral code, these people are
on the other side, the high moral ground as it were, and they spend their
time helping to enforce it. These people are our culture's guardians, our
vanguard whose presence keeps reminding us that we should live by a higher
standard, particularly the one embodied in our most Golden of rules. As
stated above, they are our churches.
But even among these valued institutions, there are some that take their
role more seriously than the rest. They are on the forefront of the battle
to keep our nation, its institutions, and its citizens abiding by the
morals encompassed in the Golden Rule. They are vocal, political, and
committed. They are known collectively as the Religious Right, a name
given them by the Press, and more commonly function under such names as
The Christian Coalition, Operation Rescue, The Family Research Council,
Focus on the Family, The Southern Baptist Convention, and scores of
others. They include many denominations and a host of unaffiliated
churches that call themselves "nondenominational," "community," or often
simply "Bible" churches. Though they function as separate entities, they
are loosely united in their role as cultural overseers, bound by the
common goal of defending traditional moral values in our society.
Can we not assume, then, that this group - the Religious Right, who have
set themselves up as the defenders of the Golden Rule - that they,
themselves, must clearly be following it? And if that is true, can we not
also assume, therefore, that the things they are doing to others are the
very things they wish others would do to them?
We must assume it is true. For if they are not following the Golden Rule
themselves, then how can they expect others to believe they are defenders
of it? And if they are indeed doing things to others that they would not
want done to them, then how can any of us believe them when they speak of
other values we should embrace?
Either they are liars, and we should simply ignore them; or our assumption
is true, and we should be doing to them as they are doing to us. Based on
the belief that the Religious Right indeed see themselves as defenders of
the Golden Rule, it is not inappropriate, therefore, to make the following
suggestions on what we should be doing to them.
1. Picket Their Churches
The Religious Right have taken the position that verbal and sometimes
physical confrontation is an acceptable method of enforcing morals. They
picket abortion clinics, often getting physically in the way of women
entering and leaving (even where new laws apply to prevent it), and almost
always emotionally battering the woman exercising her constitutional right
to control her body and her reproductive system. It isn't bad enough that
these woman have already gone through long hours of torturous debate and
have finally chosen an abortion - probably as a last resort - these
picketers must lob their emotional atomic bombs on already tortured women,
giving little thought to the devastation caused when a horde of angry
protesters focus their attention on one person at a most vulnerable time
in a most private issue.
And this does not even take into account those in the Religious Right who
believe God wants them to inflict bodily harm on these women, as well as
on the workers inside the clinics. Claiming a little-discussed but
widely-held belief called "Justifiable Homicide" (this is the belief used
by many Christians to support the death penalty for convicted murderers),
these extremists of the extreme blow up clinics and shoot women and
doctors in their attempts to defend their morals - and they do it in the
name of a moral God.
Based on their actions, it is clear that the Religious Right would like us
to do the same to them.
While blowing up churches and killing preachers is surely a violation of
other morals we hold dear (as well as being downright illegal), it should
be perfectly acceptable for us to picket and confront members of Religious
Right churches and parachurch organizations as they enter and leave their
buildings.
Go to their churches on Sunday Morning. You can find out when services
begin by reading the Saturday newspaper. Take big signs with horrible
pictures of people who have committed suicide because of the torment
caused them by the Religious Right, and wave your signs in their faces.
Yell at them. Pick out the nice family with kids in their Sunday best, and
get in front of them. Confront these people with the damage their kids
will suffer by being raised in such an intolerant institution. Wave your
gruesome signs in front of little old ladies, and tell them how their
donations are being used to cause such carnage to young women at abortion
clinics, and to women who wish to get equal pay for equal work, and to
young Gays seeking answers.
And if the Religious Right truly means what they say, then they will thank
you for following their example.
2. Disrupt Their Meetings
The Religious Right have shown support for the idea that public outbursts
at gatherings of the "morally-challenged" is a justifiable method of
spreading the word. They have disrupted rallies that support equal rights
for Gays. They have gotten into shouting matches at meetings of Liberal
politicians. They have heckled leaders of Planned Parenthood when they
give speeches.
Based on their actions, do we not have a mandate to do the same to them?
In your Sunday best, go into their sanctuaries and wait for the service to
begin. Plant yourselves in different places interspersed between the
regular members. Then, in five or ten minute intervals, take turns
standing up and yelling at the preacher and the congregation. Heckle them
about their support of oppressive legislation. Shout out against their
opposition to equal rights for women. Disrupt their services with
arguments against their stance on homosexuality.
By spreading out and waiting between outbursts, you can avoid the
possibility of all of you being escorted out of the building after the
first disruption. The church leaders won't be able to pick you out of the
crowd until you are already standing and shouting. With enough people, you
can effectively disrupt the entire hour-long meeting, making it impossible
for the church's members to ignore your protest.
And if you do it well, the Religious Right will be truly impressed with
your ability to do to them what they have been doing to us.
3. Picket Their Schools
The Religious Right have been active in our education system for decades,
but now they are hanging out en masse at public schools in order to picket
the curriculum or hand out anti-abortion pamphlets. They are preying on
our children in a covert attempt to infuse certain values that the parents
somehow failed to instill or to rally students against values being taught
in their schools. They meet kids as they get off the bus, pushing flyers
with pictures of aborted fetuses into their faces. They march back and
forth in front of the curb, where students are trying to enter the school,
chanting against sex education and condoms. They rally at school board
meetings, trying to force a curriculum that is more in line with their
moral ideals.
Based on this example, we need to be doing the same thing to them at their
Christian schools.
Meet their students at their buses, or at the curb as parents drop them
off, and give them flyers on safe sex, or better yet, hand out free
condoms. March back and forth in front of the curb, so kids walking to
school have to pass between you, and chant against their anti-gay or
anti-abortion rights teachings. Be loud and forceful. Go to their board
meetings (if you can, since a lot of them are private) and proclaim your
desire that they promote a more diverse curriculum.
Do this, and the Religious Right will surely take your imitation of them
as the highest form of flattery.
4. Boycott Their Companies
The Religious Right have now taken to boycotting companies that promote a
lifestyle that exists in opposition to their moral code. The Southern
Baptists have entered into a year-long boycott of Walt Disney, its parks,
its movies, and its products, because of the company's television show,
"Ellen," whose central character has come out as openly Gay. Focus on the
Family has put out a fact sheet naming companies that offer benefits to
same-sex couples just as they do married couples, such as AT&T, and are
asking members to boycott them. Some of those companies also host
Gay-oriented events, so they are particularly targeted. Other Religious
Right organizations are now calling for their members to abide by these
ongoing boycotts. Their goal is to apply pressure in order to defend
morality by making it a financial hardship for those who don't comply.
In light of this demonstration of power brokering, we should follow suit
by boycotting businesses owned by members of the Religious Right.
Get a copy of the "Christian Yellow Pages." Most large cities have one,
and they can usually be found in the local Christian book store. In
smaller towns you need only talk to the locals to discover which
businesses are owned by members of the Religious Right. Find them, and
print up a list of the best targets. Hand it out on street corners. Send
it to the local media (unless the paper is owned by such a person, in
which case they will do the unethical thing - they won't cover the story).
Picket in front of the targeted businesses if you must. The important
thing is to let it be known that you are boycotting these businesses
because they are owned by people who promote an agenda that discriminates
against a person's right to choose whom they love. Use your purchase power
to make it a financial hardship to those who wish to control your love
life.
By using your power in such a way, you'll surely impress the Religious
Right with your ability to learn from their methods.
5. Put Up Candidates In Small, Local Elections
The Religious Right have tried for years to get their agenda recognized by
major political players. In 1988, they went so far as to run for
president, in the person of Pat Robertson, president of the Christian
Broadcasting Network. They have tried to seed the ranks of the Republican
party with their members and have threatened to pull their support from
candidates who don't bend to their moral demands. But they have failed to
gain a large enough foothold to change things on a big scale.
What they have done, however, that has had a major impact in the local
arena is to target small but important local elections and work to put
their people in those positions. They have placed their supporters on
school boards. They have placed their supporters on health boards. They
have placed their supporters on city councils. They have done it by
picking fights that won't draw much attention to their ultimate goal and
that generally have a low voter turn out. All they need do is convince
their members, in the protected confines of their churches, to turn out in
large enough numbers that their sheer presence will assure a victory.
The end effect has been the gradual filling of key city and county
administrative positions by people with enough power to affect educational
curriculum (targeted to keep Gay-friendly materials out of schools),
health services (where funding for pregnancy prevention programs can be
cut), and local laws (where measures that would protect Gays from
discrimination can be voted down).
In light of this brilliant, if subversive, strategy, we can learn a lesson
on how we should be doing the same in order to protect our civil
liberties.
People of conscience, who are opposed to the agenda of the Religious
Right, must band together and put forth their own candidates for these
positions. Churches have a ready-made avenue for doing this. We do not. It
will be more difficult for us, then, because we must first create an
environment where we can work together as well as local churches already
can. But we must do it, and we must then put forth candidates who can be
voted into office without disclosing their objectives. And then we can
assure them victory simply by voting en masse at these low-turnout
elections.
And if we get our people elected, we will surely earn the praise of the
Religious Right strategists who have championed the idea through the
years.
6. Mislead Their Youth.
Our final suggestion may seem less brash than the previous ones, but it is
by far the most devious - and the Religious Right have been doing it for
years.
It's simple, subtle, and effective. What they do is create a social or
cultural event they know kids like and then force their message as a part
of the event. A good example is the "free rock concert." Kids love rock
music, and, being poor for the most part, they like events that are free.
Knowing this, a local Religious Right church or parachurch organization
will rent a local school auditorium and hire a Christian rock band (most
of which simply borrow their musical styles from what's playing on the
radio rather than create their own) and hand out flyers inviting young
people to a free rock concert. This brings in lots of unsuspecting teens.
Then, either during or at the end of the show, the band will stop and the
preaching will begin. Kids who would not normally go to a church suddenly
find that the church has come to them. And parents who don't want their
kids to be instilled with the values of the Religious Right are nowhere
around to protect them. Some groups even block the exits to keep people
from leaving during the sermon.
The band or preacher then does what is called an "alter call." This is
where they ask these kids, now in the spotlight and under pressure from
the other Christian kids, to come forward and choose a new lifestyle, one
replete with the church's morals and values. The pressure is enormous, and
many kids who would otherwise reject such beliefs find themselves going
forward to proclaim something they don't fully understand.
An extreme version of this happened recently in Colorado Springs, home to
a large number of Religious Right organizations like Focus on the Family.
A Baptist church hosted a carnival for neighborhood children. While at the
carnival, and without their parents to intervene, kids were pulled aside
and told they would go to hell unless they were baptized in the church.
Many kids, out of fear, complied. Some later complained to their parents
that they were forced to take off their clothes and put on robes and be
briefly held underwater as part of the ceremony. The parents are now suing
the church.
But if the Religious Right feel these kinds of subversive tactics are
acceptable as a means of defending good morals in our country, then we
should use the same tactics on them.
Find a local Gay or Lesbian band that is willing to go along, and set up a
free concert. Bill it as a free Christian music event, and print up flyers
to be passed around at all the local Religious Right churches and
parachurch organizations. Put them on car windows in the Focus on the
Family, 700 Club, or local church parking lots. Get the word out. And make
sure you use the right jargon. Just as unsuspecting teens are attracted by
a "free rock concert," kids indoctrinated into the Religious Right's
mentality will be attracted to an event that appears genuinely Christian.
Use the word "Christian" a lot. Also put in words like "Born Again" and
"Family Values." These are flag words used by the Religious Right to test
whether an event is truly to their liking. Create a name for your concert
promotion entity that also serves this purpose. Use titles like, "Family
Values Crusade" or "Born Again Entertainment."
At the event, place a large number of "helpers" near the back of the
auditorium to "encourage" kids not to get up and leave. Then, toward the
end of the concert, stop the music and start preaching about the need for
kids to practice good safe sex. Use examples of both Gay and Lesbian
sexual encounters, and even have a Gay band member give a testimonial of
how a condom saved his life. At the end of the speech, ask those kids not
currently practicing safe sex to come forward and receive free condoms.
Use persuasive language. Make them feel guilty if they don't come forward.
One way the Religious Right does this is to have everyone close their eyes
and bow their heads, and then in a low, soft voice ask all those who have
sinned to raise their hands. No one else is suppose to see them, but of
course the leaders in the back of the room do. You can do the same thing
by asking those who have practiced unsafe sex to raise their hands, and
then encourage those who did so to come forward and receive the gift of
the rubber condom.
To be sure, it sounds like a devious ploy, but we have to remember that if
the Religious Right believe it is a good tactic to reach our children with
their message, then they must also believe it is a good tactic for us to
reach theirs. Put on a good show, and they will surely be amazed that we
believe in our values as much as they believe in theirs.
Indeed, all of the aforementioned suggestions might seem quite brash for
good people to perpetrate against our churches, but we must remember that
in doing these things we are merely doing unto the Religious Right as they
have done unto us. We must remember, that in using these strategies
against us, the Religious Right is asking us, dare we say, begging us, to
return the favor. For indeed, people of such high moral values most
certainly would not engage in activities that they would not desire to be
done unto them.
So break out the signs and look through the papers. There are churches
everywhere waiting to be touched by our protests (after all, they want us
to be good Protestants don't they?). It's time to show them we love them
just as they have shown that they love us.
--
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
Wow! Where did *you* come from? Boy do you have your 'stuff' together!
I let it be known that I wanted to debate a local fundamentalist pastor, not
on the 'bible' per se, but on the extreme intolerance and hate-mongering he
and his 'followers' exhibit. Needless to say, the debate never even got
*close* to fruition. These people have consciously decided that they want to
hear only one side of the story - theirs!
Damn, your post hit a chord with me. It's well thought our and reasoned. I
mean it. Maybe in time - with the way things are presently going -- more
people than you think will embrace your powerful call to arms. The
opposition has already shown *this* atheist that they intend to take no
prisoners. Maybe it's high time *they* get a taste of what it's like to be
on the side of holy hate-mongering.
Just plain great -- and well written, I might add.
Greywolf
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Greywolf wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
Wow! Where did *you* come from? Boy do you have your 'stuff' together!
I let it be known that I wanted to debate a local fundamentalist pastor, not
on the 'bible' per se, but on the extreme intolerance and hate-mongering he
and his 'followers' exhibit. Needless to say, the debate never even got
*close* to fruition. These people have consciously decided that they want to
hear only one side of the story - theirs!
Damn, your post hit a chord with me. It's well thought our and reasoned. I
mean it. Maybe in time - with the way things are presently going -- more
people than you think will embrace your powerful call to arms. The
opposition has already shown *this* atheist that they intend to take no
prisoners. Maybe it's high time *they* get a taste of what it's like to be
on the side of holy hate-mongering.
Just plain great -- and well written, I might add.
I appreciate the compliment, but I unfortunately didn't write it. I'm
just the messenger.
You're right though- he makes excellent points and presents them very well.
--
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
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25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 AM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de0d5$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Greywolf wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
Wow! Where did *you* come from? Boy do you have your 'stuff' together!
I let it be known that I wanted to debate a local fundamentalist pastor,
not on the 'bible' per se, but on the extreme intolerance and
hate-mongering he and his 'followers' exhibit. Needless to say, the
debate never even got *close* to fruition. These people have consciously
decided that they want to hear only one side of the story - theirs!
Damn, your post hit a chord with me. It's well thought our and reasoned.
I mean it. Maybe in time - with the way things are presently going --
more people than you think will embrace your powerful call to arms. The
opposition has already shown *this* atheist that they intend to take no
prisoners. Maybe it's high time *they* get a taste of what it's like to
be on the other side of holy hate-mongering.
Just plain great -- and well written, I might add.
I appreciate the compliment, but I unfortunately didn't write it. I'm just
the messenger.
You're right though- he makes excellent points and presents them very
well.
--
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
Don't bother to answer. I've watched the religious right just coalesce and
grow more and more powerful down through the years. They're just flat-out
crazy and intensely focused. I am experiencing their cruel and irrational
ways as I write this. I have a *very* good idea of what it must have been
like for a Jew in Hitler's Germany in the late 30's. It is truly stupefying
to see what is being done out here to me. And this is only a *taste* of
their bizarre nature.
I don't really want to see things get too 'out of hand'. I'd like to see a
good 'peacemaker' come to power as President and head things 'off at the
pass', so to speak. This country is in a big enough of a mess already as it
is. We don't need the religious right causing any more trouble simply
because -- like a pouting spoiled child -- they can't get their way. Did I
say they are crazy? I wonder just how many people there are who are sick and
tired of the religious right? I know this: When I moved back up here, I had
a 'live-and-let-live' attitude towards these people. After seeing their
'true' nature up close and personal, I actually *hate* them -- and more so
each day. And guess what? They brought on my intense hate for them all by
themselves. And by being just what they are: truly vicious, cruel,
deceitful, and despicable pathetic excuses for human beings -- and who are
crazy on top of it.
I need to compose a thoughtful e-mail to BEM. His message was a very
powerful one. And thank you for bringing it to our attention.
Greywolf
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25 Jun 2006 10:26:47 AM |
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Greywolf wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de0d5$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Greywolf wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
Wow! Where did *you* come from? Boy do you have your 'stuff' together!
I let it be known that I wanted to debate a local fundamentalist pastor,
not on the 'bible' per se, but on the extreme intolerance and
hate-mongering he and his 'followers' exhibit. Needless to say, the
debate never even got *close* to fruition. These people have consciously
decided that they want to hear only one side of the story - theirs!
Damn, your post hit a chord with me. It's well thought our and reasoned.
I mean it. Maybe in time - with the way things are presently going --
more people than you think will embrace your powerful call to arms. The
opposition has already shown *this* atheist that they intend to take no
prisoners. Maybe it's high time *they* get a taste of what it's like to
be on the other side of holy hate-mongering.
Just plain great -- and well written, I might add.
I appreciate the compliment, but I unfortunately didn't write it. I'm just
the messenger.
You're right though- he makes excellent points and presents them very
well.
--
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
Full tilt.
Don't bother to answer. I've watched the religious right just coalesce and
grow more and more powerful down through the years. They're just flat-out
crazy and intensely focused. I am experiencing their cruel and irrational
ways as I write this. I have a *very* good idea of what it must have been
like for a Jew in Hitler's Germany in the late 30's. It is truly stupefying
to see what is being done out here to me. And this is only a *taste* of
their bizarre nature.
I don't really want to see things get too 'out of hand'. I'd like to see a
good 'peacemaker' come to power as President and head things 'off at the
pass', so to speak. This country is in a big enough of a mess already as it
is. We don't need the religious right causing any more trouble simply
because -- like a pouting spoiled child -- they can't get their way. Did I
say they are crazy? I wonder just how many people there are who are sick and
tired of the religious right? I know this: When I moved back up here, I had
a 'live-and-let-live' attitude towards these people. After seeing their
'true' nature up close and personal, I actually *hate* them -- and more so
each day. And guess what? They brought on my intense hate for them all by
themselves. And by being just what they are: truly vicious, cruel,
deceitful, and despicable pathetic excuses for human beings -- and who are
crazy on top of it.
I need to compose a thoughtful e-mail to BEM. His message was a very
powerful one. And thank you for bringing it to our attention.
YVW.
Greywolf
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--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
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26 Jun 2006 05:42:33 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de0d5$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Greywolf wrote:
[]
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
Bet'cher ***** it is and at breakneck speed.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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25 Jun 2006 04:11:40 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
--
Funny Thurgood quote #4:
"I can do more for your buns than any queer can."
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25 Jun 2006 04:54:06 PM |
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In article <pan.2006.06.25.21.11.16.975332@postini.spamcon.org>,
Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
i have believed what you just said for some years. now, i am
considering the possibility that the drastic event you reference
already happened in 2000 and that the country has already failed.
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26 Jun 2006 05:43:36 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
The country died quite awhile ago.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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25 Jun 2006 05:13:03 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
There won't be a war. Tensions were worse during the 60's than they
are today and they were worse still during the 30's. But there will be
a peaceful revolution within the next decade or so. The radical right
is dying and is currently merely gasping its last breaths.
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25 Jun 2006 08:35:02 PM |
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"Gospel Bretts" <Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American
Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
There won't be a war. Tensions were worse during the 60's than they
are today and they were worse still during the 30's. But there will be
a peaceful revolution within the next decade or so. The radical right
is dying and is currently merely gasping its last breaths.
I hope to hell you're right about that. But damn, there are so damn *many*
of em'. And they have infiltrated the highest offices in the land. I hope
their chosen candidates get a pummeling this November. They're a plague!
Greywolf
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26 Jun 2006 11:07:20 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Both of you are right. We are in this predicament because of those who
voted, AND because of those who didn't.
I understand what you are saying, and I agree, to a point. However,
those who didn't vote didn't choose Bush. Certainly you can say that
those who didn't vote could have voted against Bush, and statistically
they probably would have, but they are guilty only of indifference.
They are not guilty of choosing Bush.
People who don't vote don't matter, Barnacle. They're busy watching
American Idol, so ***** 'em.
Those who voted for Bush need to begin to take responsibility for their
actions, and trying to escape what they have done by saying those who
didn't vote could have stopped them doesn't cut it.
Most of us held our noses and voted for Bush because he sucks less
than Al Grrrr and Jean Kerrée. Nobody needs to "take responsibility"
for voting for the better of the two candidates. YOU clowns on the left
need to take some responsibility and admit that your party offered
awful candidates.
You liberal whiners always blame others for your mistakes.
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29 Jun 2006 06:19:16 AM |
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Foxtrot wrote:
YOU clowns on the left
need to take some responsibility and admit that your party offered
awful candidates.
Well, it seems that both parties offered up candidates that were rather
tepid. After all, if there were a clearly superior choice, then the last
Presidential election wouldn't have been the closest this nation has
gotten to a tie. Ever.
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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26 Jun 2006 11:20:14 PM |
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In article <h3b1a291ibjmukrfja348se85epsp3an6f@4ax.com>, Foxtrot
<foxtrot@null.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Both of you are right. We are in this predicament because of those who
voted, AND because of those who didn't.
I understand what you are saying, and I agree, to a point. However,
those who didn't vote didn't choose Bush. Certainly you can say that
those who didn't vote could have voted against Bush, and statistically
they probably would have, but they are guilty only of indifference.
They are not guilty of choosing Bush.
People who
<SLAP>
Shut up. You are too childish to take seriously.
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26 Jun 2006 11:24:50 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> wrote:
People who
<SLAP>
Shut up. You are too childish to take seriously.
Fine, be that way.
<PLONK>
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26 Jun 2006 11:56:09 PM |
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In article <emc1a2t33bjq11retrkonht3u4g2gumt09@4ax.com>, Foxtrot
<foxtrot@null.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> wrote:
People who
<SLAP>
Shut up. You are too childish to take seriously.
Fine, be that way.
Sounds good.
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26 Jun 2006 05:50:14 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:35:02 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Gospel Bretts" <Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American
Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
There won't be a war. Tensions were worse during the 60's than they
are today and they were worse still during the 30's. But there will be
a peaceful revolution within the next decade or so. The radical right
is dying and is currently merely gasping its last breaths.
I hope to hell you're right about that. But damn, there are so damn *many*
of em'. And they have infiltrated the highest offices in the land. I hope
their chosen candidates get a pummeling this November. They're a plague!
How can they since multiple fixes are in?
The Reich controls the voting machines and counters, disenfranchising
voters and making impossible for things to be 'fixed' until well after
the election is over. The USSC is stacked and is the 'Justice Dept,'
The Democraps have no spine or ethics and are nothing more than the
Rethugnican annex.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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26 Jun 2006 10:20:35 PM |
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stoney wrote:
[snicker-snack goes the vorpal blade]
My, you're being positively negative of late.
Cheer up! The Republicans will never take away death!
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:20:35 GMT, Dionisio
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stoney wrote:
[snicker-snack goes the vorpal blade]
My, you're being positively negative of late.
Facts can really suck. :\
Cheer up! The Republicans will never take away death!
Yeah, but that's taxing too......
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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29 Jun 2006 11:00:51 PM |
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stoney wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Cheer up! The Republicans will never take away death!
Yeah, but that's taxing too......
Ah, but they aim to do away with that tax.
;-)
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--Voltaire
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26 Jun 2006 04:10:23 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:13:03 +0000, Gospel Bretts
<Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
news:<bs1u92do0v9ep4ur66dgm3kaa3c1g85am5@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
There won't be a war. Tensions were worse during the 60's than they
are today and they were worse still during the 30's. But there will be
a peaceful revolution within the next decade or so. The radical right
is dying and is currently merely gasping its last breaths.
I hope you're right, and I figured that would be the case, but I didn't
want to jinx it. ;-)
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Bushism 5-25:
"All up and down the different aspects of our society, we had meaningful
discussions. Not only in the Cabinet Room, but prior to this and after this
day, our secretaries, respective secretaries, will continue to interact to
create the conditions necessary for prosperity to reign."
--Washington, D.C.; May 19, 2003
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26 Jun 2006 05:44:33 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:13:03 GMT, Gospel Bretts
<Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:40 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:52:18 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote
in message news:<129sn6skk6q5r0a@corp.supernews.com>...
I know this sounds a bit grim. And I hope I am waaaaay off the
mark. But do you think this country's heading towards a 2nd American Civil
War?
I know that tensions between the right and the left are at an all-time
high right now and that something drastic will probably happen. Whether
it's a civil war or something else, it will be a big turning point in the
history of this country, if the country survives it.
There won't be a war. Tensions were worse during the 60's than they
are today and they were worse still during the 30's. But there will be
a peaceful revolution within the next decade or so. The radical right
is dying and is currently merely gasping its last breaths.
The damage done is irreversable and terminal.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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24 Jun 2006 08:09:54 PM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
This is an awesome list, and I'm sure there's a lot more devious Christian
ploys out there to turn on them.
Nice work.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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24 Jun 2006 08:28:00 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
This is an awesome list, and I'm sure there's a lot more devious Christian
ploys out there to turn on them.
Nice work.
I didn't write the blog, but it basically says what I've been saying for
years- if we're going to fight theocracy and win, we have to take the
fight to their level and to hell with "we're better than that" and all
the other noble and ineffective *****. The battle (and it IS a
battle) has to be taken to their turf or they're never going to get it.
--
--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
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25 Jun 2006 04:37:58 AM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de06c$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
This is an awesome list, and I'm sure there's a lot more devious
Christian ploys out there to turn on them.
Nice work.
I didn't write the blog, but it basically says what I've been saying for
years- if we're going to fight theocracy and win, we have to take the
fight to their level and to hell with "we're better than that" and all the
other noble and ineffective *****. The battle (and it IS a battle) has
to be taken to their turf or they're never going to get it.
I tend more and more to agree with you.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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25 Jun 2006 05:00:36 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:37:58 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
message <2LCdnU2EOuToxAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@io.com>
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de06c$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
This is an awesome list, and I'm sure there's a lot more devious
Christian ploys out there to turn on them.
Nice work.
I didn't write the blog, but it basically says what I've been saying for
years- if we're going to fight theocracy and win, we have to take the
fight to their level and to hell with "we're better than that" and all the
other noble and ineffective *****. The battle (and it IS a battle) has
to be taken to their turf or they're never going to get it.
I tend more and more to agree with you.
I think, though, that it should be "tit for tat," so that if any journalist asks
you why you are protesting, you can link it to a prior incident of a theocratic
action against you (it needn't be a local incident, either, but that's always
best.) Then the journalist will get some background linkage for his story.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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25 Jun 2006 05:31:57 PM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:3l1u92lbra1ihrs309cn87alst83tqp7ua@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:37:58 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
in
message <2LCdnU2EOuToxAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@io.com>
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449de06c$0$31091$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:449dd2c6$0$31090$88260bb3@alt.teranews.com...
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure
there
are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our
most
cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be
treated.
This is an awesome list, and I'm sure there's a lot more devious
Christian ploys out there to turn on them.
Nice work.
I didn't write the blog, but it basically says what I've been saying for
years- if we're going to fight theocracy and win, we have to take the
fight to their level and to hell with "we're better than that" and all
the
other noble and ineffective *****. The battle (and it IS a battle)
has
to be taken to their turf or they're never going to get it.
I tend more and more to agree with you.
I think, though, that it should be "tit for tat," so that if any
journalist asks
you why you are protesting, you can link it to a prior incident of a
theocratic
action against you (it needn't be a local incident, either, but that's
always
best.) Then the journalist will get some background linkage for his
story.
It's a good idea. Hmmm...
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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24 Jun 2006 07:56:40 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
Nice attitude.
So break out the signs and look through the papers. There are churches
everywhere waiting to be touched by our protests (after all, they want
us to be good Protestants don't they?). It's time to show them we love
them just as they have shown that they love us.
Good. The rabid left is going to attack Christians. We'll do all we can
do to connect as many Democrats as possible to this for November's
elections.
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25 Jun 2006 10:25:40 AM |
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Foxtrot wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://elroy.net/ehr/dountoothers.html
Yelling at little old ladies never felt so right.
Nice attitude.
Yeah, it's almost as nice as shoving photos of bloody dolls in pregnant
womens faces and screaming "Murderer!", or telling a funeral party how
glad you are their loved one is dead, or hell, how about wholesale
Muslim slaughter?
So break out the signs and look through the papers. There are churches
everywhere waiting to be touched by our protests (after all, they want
us to be good Protestants don't they?). It's time to show them we love
them just as they have shown that they love us.
Good. The rabid left is going to attack Christians.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
SOMEbody didn't read the article, did they?
We'll do all we can
do to connect as many Democrats as possible to this for November's
elections.
Even better. Please do. Email it, print it on leaflets, rent a
billboard. The more people see it, the better.
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--sexkitten--
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
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