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"Damian John Paul Brown" |
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10 May 2004 05:09:52 PM |
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do you read Steinbeck ? |
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 06:44:16 AM |
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"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
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I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
12 May 2004 05:29:51 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> astounded us with: news:k03oc.31901$jU.2145135
@twister.southeast.rr.com:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com...
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
I recall a "Merrie Melodies" with Sylvester the Cat as George and a big, dumb
cat as Lenny.
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| User: "Damian John Paul Brown" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 05:35:26 PM |
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:44:16 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com...
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
is there any chance of digging the cartoons up ?
I am likely going to see the play, starring Matthew Kelly as Lenny
you may not know him but he is a well known UK celebrity
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 05:47:21 PM |
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"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:44:16 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com...
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and
Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
is there any chance of digging the cartoons up ?
I am likely going to see the play, starring Matthew Kelly as Lenny
you may not know him but he is a well known UK celebrity
I wouldn't know where to find them. I think that they were done by Looney
Tunes.
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| User: "Damian John Paul Brown" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 06:53:06 PM |
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:47:21 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
is there any chance of digging the cartoons up ?
I am likely going to see the play, starring Matthew Kelly as Lenny
you may not know him but he is a well known UK celebrity
I wouldn't know where to find them. I think that they were done by Looney
Tunes.
I remember loony toons - I may be able to source them
you never know, it could be a hit - there is a Steinbeck Centre in his
homeland somewhere - if I ever visit the US I will go there...
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 05:47:36 PM |
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In article <lcl2a0p6cerdcfe8knm96p6csvu4pfpksv@4ax.com>, Damian John Paul Brown
says...
On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:44:16 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com...
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
is there any chance of digging the cartoons up ?
They pop up on Cartoon Network every once in a while. Believe they were done by
Warner Bros.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
12 May 2004 01:15:58 AM |
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:35:26 +0000 (UTC), Damian John Paul Brown
<damian@phpexpert.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:44:16 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com...
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
I liked the cartoon version (perhaps b4 your time), where George and Lenny
were played by dogs. "Which way did he go George, which way did he go."
is there any chance of digging the cartoons up ?
I am likely going to see the play, starring Matthew Kelly as Lenny
you may not know him but he is a well known UK celebrity
"Bugs Bunny" cartoon having fun with the movie portrayals of George
and Lenny.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 01:13:45 AM |
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In article <igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com>,
Damian John Paul Brown <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote:
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
Steinbeck is one of my favorites. I'm currently reading "The Moon is
Down", a story about life in an occupied country (Norway in WW2). It
seems to have some relevance for today.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 06:15:25 PM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
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In article <igvv90tptbsdml2icj3n0bg15i555ndqip@4ax.com>,
Damian John Paul Brown <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote:
I have just read Of Mice and Men and found it excellent...
even though I already knew the story having seen the colour film
starring John Malcovich as Lennie...
the ending is so dramatical...
if you haven't read any Steinbeck then I suggest you do so...
If it's well done, Of Mice and Men is one of the rare books that can be a
good film, it was written as a screenplay.
None have done justice to the opening scene.
I've read most if not all of Steinbeck and keep coming back to Cannery Row
and Sweet Thursday.
Sadly Doc's lab, part of the grocery store and what used to be The Bear Flag
are all that is left.
All the rest of Cannery Row is toursist trap and a good portion of it is
gone. They do have a nice little park named after Doc (Ed Ricketts) at the
breakwater.
Steinbeck is one of my favorites. I'm currently reading "The Moon is
Down", a story about life in an occupied country (Norway in WW2). It
seems to have some relevance for today.
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| User: "Damian John Paul Brown" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 05:38:24 PM |
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:13:45 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
Steinbeck is one of my favorites. I'm currently reading "The Moon is
Down", a story about life in an occupied country (Norway in WW2). It
seems to have some relevance for today.
I have East of Eden and Cannery Row with me from the library
I will read them after I have read Lord of the Rings
but The Moon is Down sounds interesting, I have noted that most Great
Authors have been involved in the World Wars in some way...
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 05:50:18 PM |
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"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:13:45 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
Steinbeck is one of my favorites. I'm currently reading "The Moon is
Down", a story about life in an occupied country (Norway in WW2). It
seems to have some relevance for today.
I have East of Eden and Cannery Row with me from the library
I will read them after I have read Lord of the Rings
but The Moon is Down sounds interesting, I have noted that most Great
Authors have been involved in the World Wars in some way...
Did you see the film of Cannery Row (it actaully combined a couple of his
novels, IIRC)? Nick Nolte and Debra Winger. It was great and really
captured the spirit of his books, if not entirely faithful to the plots.
Don't forget, "The Grapes of Wrath," of course! I forget its title, but I
read another of his novels about the early years of organized labor.
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| User: "Damian John Paul Brown" |
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11 May 2004 07:31:08 PM |
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:50:18 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
Did you see the film of Cannery Row (it actaully combined a couple of his
novels, IIRC)? Nick Nolte and Debra Winger. It was great and really
captured the spirit of his books, if not entirely faithful to the plots.
I have not seen the film Cannery Row, but I will try and hunt it
down...I have found that it is best to read a book before seeing the
equivalent film...
Of Mice and Men film is true to both the spirit and the plot of the
book...right down to the descriptions...
Don't forget, "The Grapes of Wrath," of course! I forget its title, but I
read another of his novels about the early years of organized labor.
Grapes of Wrath is the first book I read of Steinbeck's and it was
like watching a film...I am told there is a film production of GoW...I
am going to have to source all this Steinbeck information that I am
learning about and my trip to the US may be sooner rather than
later...
Feel Free to Vote for Me - www.phpexpert.org/feelfree/
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: do you read Steinbeck ? |
11 May 2004 08:09:31 PM |
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"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:50:18 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
Did you see the film of Cannery Row (it actaully combined a couple of his
novels, IIRC)? Nick Nolte and Debra Winger. It was great and really
captured the spirit of his books, if not entirely faithful to the plots.
I have not seen the film Cannery Row, but I will try and hunt it
down...I have found that it is best to read a book before seeing the
equivalent film...
Of Mice and Men film is true to both the spirit and the plot of the
book...right down to the descriptions...
Don't forget, "The Grapes of Wrath," of course! I forget its title, but
I
read another of his novels about the early years of organized labor.
Grapes of Wrath is the first book I read of Steinbeck's and it was
like watching a film...I am told there is a film production of GoW...I
am going to have to source all this Steinbeck information that I am
learning about and my trip to the US may be sooner rather than
later...
It's a terrific film, starring Henry Fonda.
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| User: "Damian John Paul Brown" |
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11 May 2004 09:44:42 PM |
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 01:09:31 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Damian John Paul Brown" <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote in message
news:20s2a05rcgok020801s05dj79lhp01c1ot@4ax.com...
On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:50:18 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
Did you see the film of Cannery Row (it actaully combined a couple of his
novels, IIRC)? Nick Nolte and Debra Winger. It was great and really
captured the spirit of his books, if not entirely faithful to the plots.
I have not seen the film Cannery Row, but I will try and hunt it
down...I have found that it is best to read a book before seeing the
equivalent film...
Of Mice and Men film is true to both the spirit and the plot of the
book...right down to the descriptions...
Don't forget, "The Grapes of Wrath," of course! I forget its title, but
I
read another of his novels about the early years of organized labor.
was that Of Mice and Men ?
excellent book - Short, Sweet and Dramatic...
Grapes of Wrath is the first book I read of Steinbeck's and it was
like watching a film...I am told there is a film production of GoW...I
am going to have to source all this Steinbeck information that I am
learning about and my trip to the US may be sooner rather than
later...
It's a terrific film, starring Henry Fonda.
must definitely be worth watching with such a star...
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| User: "johac" |
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12 May 2004 12:42:13 AM |
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In article <nhl2a01gcs2stsghiibsms37furl49kmoj@4ax.com>,
Damian John Paul Brown <damian@phpexpert.org> wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:13:45 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
Steinbeck is one of my favorites. I'm currently reading "The Moon is
Down", a story about life in an occupied country (Norway in WW2). It
seems to have some relevance for today.
I have East of Eden and Cannery Row with me from the library
I will read them after I have read Lord of the Rings
but The Moon is Down sounds interesting, I have noted that most Great
Authors have been involved in the World Wars in some way...
Donald Coers wrote a lengthy introduction to the version that I
have.(Penguin Classic Books Series). In it he describes how Steinbeck,
working for the US intelligence services early in the war used details
from interviews of refugees from Nazi occupied countries to write the
novel. The government saw its value as propaganda and had it translated
into many languages so it could be smuggled into occupied Europe. It was
one of the most widely read books during the war on the continent even
though it was banned. It looks at the occupation both from the point of
view of the occupied and the occupiers and the effect of the war and the
occupation on each.
There was a 1943 movie based on the novel, which I think that I may have
watched on TV, but so long ago that I forget the details.
So far I am enjoying it. I got my copy from Amazon.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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