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04 Jul 2004 10:50:56 PM |
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Do you remember the davey and goliath show on Sundays? |
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
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| User: "Paul H." |
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06 Jul 2004 01:06:33 AM |
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"mark_digital" <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
Depends upon what you mean by "upbeat": I remember being disappointed that
Davey didn't slam a rock between Goliath's eyes and kill the annoying,
self-righteous mutt. So much for Biblical accuracy.
G: "You're sure twirling that sling mighty fast, Daaaaaveey!"
<Camera pans to Davey who has an evil smirk playing across his face>
G: "Slings can be dangerous without adult supervision, Daaaveeey"
<Davey releases one end of the sling and a meaty thunk is heard from off
camera, immediately followed by a yelp and a thud. Davey screws up his
face and mimics former President Ford's voice during the Nixon pardon
speech.>
D: "The long national nightmare is over!" <maniacally laughs until out of
breath, slapping his knee>
<Davey casually walks over to Goliath's prostrate body, prods it with a toe,
turns his head and spits.>
D: Guess I need me a new dog . One that knows when to keeping its freakin'
mouth shut, this time.
<Davey begins walking off, practicing excuses>
D: Honest, Mom, he just sort of fell over! No...wait... Hey, how about,
"Dad! Goliath was hit by a meteor! It was amazing! And so scary! Why did
God kill my doggie, Dad?" Yeah, that's the ticket... blame God... what a
gimmick... better than cross-posting, even!
<Fade to black>
Sigh... memories...
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| User: "Robert Schneider" |
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05 Jul 2004 11:20:07 AM |
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"mark_digital" <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
Yes, TBN still broadcasts that show.
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| User: "Woodsy Niles" |
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05 Jul 2004 01:38:02 AM |
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(mark_digital) wrote in
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
That sounds blasphemus.
--
Wood
"Donkeys can talk, people can fly, and a man named Jesus lives in the
Sky!"
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| User: "JTEM" |
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05 Jul 2004 02:17:26 AM |
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"Woodsy Niles" <woodsy@spamnot.mee> wrote
marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had
an upbeat story like a parable.
That sounds blasphemus.
It must be. It's their image on the signs for the "Creation" camp at
one of the local churches here.
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| User: "Woodsy Niles" |
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05 Jul 2004 02:19:11 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Woodsy Niles" <woodsy@spamnot.mee> wrote
marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had
an upbeat story like a parable.
That sounds blasphemus.
It must be. It's their image on the signs for the "Creation" camp at
one of the local churches here.
They're all going to hell.
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Wood
"Donkeys can talk, people can fly, and a man named Jesus lives in the
Sky!"
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| User: "David Buckna" |
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05 Jul 2004 11:34:31 PM |
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(mark_digital) wrote in message news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
See:
http://www.daveyandgoliath.org
http://www.daveyandgoliath.org/update.html
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David Buckna
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| User: "David Buckna" |
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04 Aug 2004 12:33:15 AM |
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(David Buckna) wrote in message news:<5ff8dc2e.0407052034.2c2216f3@posting.google.com>...
marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote in message news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
See:
http://www.daveyandgoliath.org
http://www.daveyandgoliath.org/update.html
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/orl-livchurchmerch080204aug02,0,71557.story?coll=orl-home-entlife
Davey and Goliath to the rescue
Lutherans hope that a couple of TV characters from long ago can
instill timeless values in kids today.
By Mark I. Pinsky
Sentinel Staff Writer
August 2, 2004
By the elaborate standards of today's ultra-slick, multimillion-dollar
vacation Bible school industry, "Davey and Goliath's Camp Creation" at
Emmanuel Episcopal Church in Orlando is a modest affair.
There are none of the banners, props or costumes typical of other camp
packages at this small church. Just a music CD with sing-along lyrics,
hand-copied onto an overhead-transparency screen. And DVDs of vintage
segments from Davey and Goliath.
The classic, stop-motion animated television series was developed by
the Lutheran Church in the late 1950s. The 15-minute segments feature
a good-natured but mischievous boy who tends to make the wrong
choices, and his drawling dog, who suggests the right path. Adult
humans, parents and a minister also give Davey guidance.
There are lots of theories about what is needed to turn around a
mainline Protestant denomination in decline, but few have ever thought
the answer might be a clueless animated boy and his canine conscience.
For the five-million strong Evangelical Lutheran Church in America,
whose membership is aging, Davey and Goliath may be the route to
salvation.
After three years, the ELCA's effort to revive the characters is
gaining momentum, with a national soft-drink commercial, a Christmas
television special and a growing line of merchandise, in addition to
the vacation Bible school curriculum, offered for the first time this
summer.
"Like many mainline Protestant denominations, we are struggling with
how to be effective in a culture that represents both a spiritual
desert and a spiritual jungle," the Rev. Mark Hanson, presiding bishop
of the ELCA, said in a 2001 Sentinel interview.
"We are always asking ourselves, 'How do we convey the heart of the
Gospel story to those who are not flocking to our churches?' "
Old-fashioned, relevant
The Davey and Goliath video messages are direct, if a little
old-fashioned, which is fine with Emmanuel's children's minister,
Barbi Worswick.
"They're so simple," she says. "The lessons are timeless. The values
are timeless."
The old programs deal with real-life situations, such as cleaning your
room, treating others fairly, working together and taking your
responsibilities seriously. God is mentioned, but the touch is light.
There was also racial diversity; even in the early 1960s, white Davey
had an African-American friend.
At first, Worswick thought the crude animation -- the predecessor to
claymation -- might not hold the children's interest, given the far
more sophisticated fare most are now accustomed to watching on
television, computer and movie screens.
But she is delighted that most of the 35 children attending the
five-day session are entranced.
"I think they're really good," says Jessica Chavez, 10, of Orlando.
"They send morals out. I like that they're pretty simple. You can get
the message. You don't have to guess."
Alex van den Berg, also 10, of Winter Park, agrees.
"It could be a little fancier, but it doesn't bother me," he says.
The segments are shown in Emmanuel's chapel as the last activity of
the half-day program.
At the morning chapel gathering that opens each day's program, the
Rev. Malcolm Murchison, Emmanuel's pastor, sometimes asks the kids
what lessons they learned from the previous day's segment.
"The series emphasizes God's love for children, and the wisdom of
parents," says the Rev. Eric Shafer, director of communications for
the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. "Those are themes that
resonate with people of all faiths -- and with people of no faith."
Clearly, the vacation Bible school curriculum, developed by the
denomination's publishing house, Augsburg Fortress, is reaching
congregations beyond the ELCA.
More than 5,000 copies of the curriculum have been sold this year,
about half to Lutheran congregations, the denomination says. Those
churches, in turn, are reaching beyond their own membership for the
vacation Bible school.
At Emmanuel Episcopal, for example, about half of the children
attending are from families that are not members. And throughout
Central Florida, Methodist and Congregational churches also have used
the Davey and Goliath curriculum.
Ad-campaign tradeoff
Davey and Goliath have proved to be a durable commodity, so bathed in
the glow of baby-boomer nostalgia that they have been mocked by The
Simpsons. Since the early 1980s, more than 600,000 videocassettes of
the Davey and Goliath episodes have been sold, and the prospect of a
DVD release holds the promise of even greater sales.
The Lutherans developed the series with Art Clokey, creator of the
equally beloved Gumby and Pokey. Davey and Goliath ran from 1960 to
the early 1970s, with reruns airing weekends through the mid-1980s.
In its most visible recent foray, the Lutherans licensed the boy and
his dog for a 30-second Mountain Dew commercial, which ran nationally
between February 2002 and February 2003. The spot turned Goliath's
line, "Oh, Davey," into a teen catchphrase.
"We benefited; they benefited," says Shafer of the deal with the
soft-drink company. "It was a win-win situation. In addition to the
licensing fee, it brought Davey to a new generation."
Some in the denomination objected to hyping a sugary, caffeinated
drink to children. Others complained about Davey's ironically
out-of-character line, "We got hosed."
"We did have some criticism about the language in the spot, as well as
about the product," Shafer says. "We justified it. It was a tradeoff."
Then, in 2003, a documentary about the history of the show, called Oh
Davey! aired on ABC affiliates. The denomination is now shopping a new
holiday special, Davey and Goliath's Snowboard Christmas -- financed
in part by the Mountain Dew fee -- to commercial broadcast and cable
networks. It is also stop-motion animation.
During the past three years, the denomination has produced and
licensed merchandise ranging from T-shirts and key chains to Davey and
Goliath figures with bobbing heads.
Shifting to the Davey and Goliath curriculum this year has raised
Augsburg Fortress' vacation Bible school revenue by $300,000,
according to the publisher. Next summer's curriculum, already being
marketed, is "Davey and Goliath's Circus Spectacular." It, too, uses
segments from the old series. A book titled Life Lessons from Davey
and Goliath was published in 2003.
Last week, the denomination signed a deal with Scholastic Books, the
world's largest publisher and distributor of children's books, to
create coloring and activity books based on the series.
A denomination Web site devoted to Davey and Goliath, which includes
suggestions about how to use the series in ministry, is averaging
5,000 visitors a week.
For Lutherans, raising enough interest -- and money -- to relaunch
Davey and Goliath with a season of new episodes is the ultimate goal.
"Children in the 21st century are hungry for God's love," says the
ELCA's Shafer. "We want to feed them."
Mark I. Pinsky can be reached at or
407-420-5589.
===
Davey and Goliath's Snowboard Christmas [2004 TV Special]
http://www.daveyandgoliath.org/snowboard/story.html
---
http://www.elca.org/Scriptlib/CO/ELCA_News/encArticleList.asp?a=2870&p=4
ELCA NEWS SERVICE
July 27, 2004
ELCA and Scholastic Initiate Agreement
04-136-MR
CHICAGO (ELCA) -- The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
(ELCA) and Scholastic have entered into a new agreement this summer in
an effort to bring "Davey and Goliath" to a new generation of
children. Scholastic is the world's largest publisher and distributor
of children's books.
[snip]
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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04 Aug 2004 11:51:59 AM |
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Yes, I remember it. The dog freaked me out, man... I mean with that
deep, dopey voice, he just reminded me of some demon from the 9th
dimension of Hell or something. Davey was okay, though.
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L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "The Jester" |
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05 Jul 2004 02:26:27 PM |
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(mark_digital) wrote in message news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
-The Jester, 774
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| User: "Robert Schneider" |
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05 Jul 2004 05:51:07 PM |
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"The Jester" <jesterdel@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:30eb24ae.0407051126.278cccc5@posting.google.com...
marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote in message
news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
-The Jester, 774
The Simpsons called it Gravey and Jobriath. I guess for legal reasons, but
it was an enjoyable spat.
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| User: "Robert Schneider" |
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05 Jul 2004 06:01:04 PM |
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"Robert Schneider" <rss1174@SPAMMENOTearthlink.net> wrote in message
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"The Jester" <jesterdel@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote in message
news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
-The Jester, 774
The Simpsons called it Gravey and Jobriath. I guess for legal reasons,
but
it was an enjoyable spat.
There is a 1.36MB clip here.
http://everythingisnt.com/images/simpsons_militant_lutherans.avi
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| User: "Geoff" |
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05 Jul 2004 08:44:20 PM |
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marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote in message
news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
-The Jester, 774
The Simpsons called it Gravey and Jobriath. I guess for legal reasons,
but
it was an enjoyable spat.
Oh that's rich!
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05 Jul 2004 05:44:58 PM |
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(The Jester) writes:
marky_digital@hotmail.com (mark_digital) wrote in message news:<5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>...
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
MAD TV did a version that was a David Berkowitz parody, with
Goliath telling Davey to "Kill, kill, kill"
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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06 Jul 2004 02:04:31 AM |
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
The Simpsons did a quick parody of it a few years ago. In the same
claymation style, it had Davey in the basement, making a pipe bomb to
blow up Planned Parenthood. Goliath was watching, saying, in his slow
voice, "I don't know if this is such a good idea, Davey..." After I
saw it, I couldn't speak for about 30 seconds. I spent the next 5
minutes rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically. I was impressed
that they'd gotten it on the air.
There was the Mountain Dew commercial a few years ago where Davey and his
friend Tommy are fighting over a can of Dew and his father takes it from them
and asks if they realize what they were doing wrong. His father then drinks the
can and says, "Let that be a lesson to you, boys." Tommy then says, "What just
happened?" and Davey responds, "We got hosed, Tommy. We got hosed."
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "YoYo your.business.com" |
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05 Jul 2004 09:06:43 AM |
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Didn't that come on after Gumby haha ROFL....
"mark_digital" <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
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| User: "Frank ess" |
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05 Jul 2004 09:50:59 AM |
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YoYo wrote:
Didn't that come on after Gumby haha ROFL....
"mark_digital" <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
SHHH
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| User: "Sean C" |
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05 Jul 2004 02:18:19 AM |
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In article <5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>,
mark_digital <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote:
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
I always liked that show as a kid. I even liked the opening music, "A
Mighty Fortress is our God" by Martin Luther. I don't remember any of
the religious angle, though. I'd love to see it again.
Sean C
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| User: "Peter A. Stavrakoglou" |
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05 Jul 2004 03:30:08 PM |
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"Sean C" <redhawk@burnspammersalive.hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:050720040318191555%redhawk@burnspammersalive.hvc.rr.com...
In article <5148587c.0407041950.11737d75@posting.google.com>,
mark_digital <marky_digital@hotmail.com> wrote:
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
I always liked that show as a kid. I even liked the opening music,
"A
Mighty Fortress is our God" by Martin Luther. I don't remember any
of
the religious angle, though. I'd love to see it again.
Sean C
IIRC, the show was sponsored by the Lutheran Church.
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| User: "raven1" |
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05 Jul 2004 01:05:03 PM |
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On 4 Jul 2004 20:50:56 -0700, (mark_digital)
wrote:
It was claymation davey and his dog goliath and they always had an
upbeat story like a parable.
Ah, yes. Goliath was always giving him advice, like "But Davey, Pastor
says you'll go blind if you do that!"...
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