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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Bill M" |
| Date: |
22 Mar 2007 04:02:45 PM |
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DOES ANY GOD EXIST |
Simple basic evidence that there are no real Gods.
There are 6.5 BILLION people in this world and no sane non delusional person
has ever heard from or seen any God. It never talks directly to us or
appears to us.
There are close to 1,000 different Gods believed in by mankind. Why would
any real God permit all these fakes and confusion?
If there was an all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
creator, why did it create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases
and serious body malfunctions? There are 12,000 known diseases that affect
and punish mankind indiscriminately. Over two million totally innocent
children die of starvation every year. Why punish millions of INNOCENT
CHILDREN in this horrible way?
Why does he permit millions of both young and old to starve to death or die
of miserable diseases? If there was an all powerful and caring god would it
permit totally "innocent children" to die at birth? Or worse, be born
lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs
etc.? Why are some born idiots and others with super intelligence? Why are
some born into wealth and others pauper poor? Why are his human creations
designed to deteriorate into a miserable and devastating old age regardless
of their religious affiliation?
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created gods!
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| User: "Vigyazat" |
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| Title: Re: DOES ANY GOD EXIST |
22 Mar 2007 07:47:03 PM |
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From "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>:
Simple basic evidence that there are no real Gods.
Evidence that there are no gods? Hope it's more than your usual speech,
then, Bill, which amounts only to an observation that there is no
evidence for gods. And I wonder if you're going to widen your scope to
take in gods other than the Christian one this time?
There are 6.5 BILLION people in this world and no sane non delusional
person has ever heard from or seen any God. It never talks directly to
us or appears to us.
Of course, the logical problem with this argument is that it is based
from the start on the idea that anyone who HAS seen a god or been spoken
to directly by a god must be insane and delusional, and therefore does
not count. Therefore, obviously, of those not so discounted, it's true
no-one has ever seen a god.
There are close to 1,000 different Gods believed in by mankind. Why
would any real God permit all these fakes and confusion?
Why would you assume that any 'real' god would necessarily care?
The answer is in the question: as always, the only god you're really
thinking about is God, with that telling capital 'G'.
If there was an all powerful creator
Assuming, as usual, that the 'god' we're talking about is defined as the
'creator'...
all loving and caring
Assuming, again, that the 'real' god must be 'loving and caring' -
because, again, you're actually thinking only about God, the god of the
Christians...
why did it create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes,
Volcanic Eruptions, Floods, Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds
of debilitating diseases and serious body malfunctions? There are
12,000 known diseases that affect and punish mankind indiscriminately.
Over two million totally innocent children die of starvation every
year. Why punish millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this horrible way?
And what's so special about children? Is it any less terrible when
adults suffer and die in this way? Or is it that adults just don't have
quite the emotive value in rhetoric that children have?
Why does he
Again, assuming a male god...
If there was an all powerful
Again, assuming the 'real' god must be all-powerful.
As always, your attack on gods turns out merely to be an attack on the
God of the Christians.
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the
opposite; that man created gods!
The objective evidence is that there is no objective evidence for God or
gods. Anything further in either direction is pure speculation.
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