"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or

realistic

than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Can you provide proof for us of prophesies (whether true or false) that
were
given by the tooth fairy or Santa?

Only the word of God in the old testament has verifiable prophesies that
can
be shown by known history to be 100 percent accurate. False prophets were
put to death, so you didn't try to make a living at this if you weren't
hearing from God.

The prophesies were in may cases so detailed, that historians alleged that
the book of Daniel (for example) was written after the event, but they
were
all shown to be wrong.

Then of course there's the anthropic principle.

So there's two verifiable evidences for the existance of God.

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:qfnXi.65114$c9.27528@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or

realistic

than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Can you provide proof for us of prophesies (whether true or false) that were
given by the tooth fairy or Santa?

Only the word of God in the old testament has verifiable prophesies that can
be shown by known history to be 100 percent accurate.

False prophets were
put to death, so you didn't try to make a living at this if you weren't
hearing from God.

The prophesies were in may cases so detailed, that historians alleged that
the book of Daniel (for example) was written after the event, but they were
all shown to be wrong.

Then of course there's the anthropic principle.

So there's two verifiable evidences for the existance of God.

"Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:qfnXi.65114$c9.27528@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or

realistic

than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Can you provide proof for us of prophesies (whether true or false) that w=

given by the tooth fairy or Santa?

Only the word of God in the old testament has verifiable prophesies that =

be shown by known history to be 100 percent accurate.

put to death, so you didn't try to make a living at this if you weren't
hearing from God.

The prophesies were in may cases so detailed, that historians alleged that
the book of Daniel (for example) was written after the event, but they we=

all shown to be wrong.

Then of course there's the anthropic principle.

So there's two verifiable evidences for the existance of God.

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:qfnXi.65114$c9.27528@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or

realistic

than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Can you provide proof for us of prophesies (whether true or false) that were
given by the tooth fairy or Santa?

Only the word of God in the old testament has verifiable prophesies that can
be shown by known history to be 100 percent accurate. False prophets were
put to death, so you didn't try to make a living at this if you weren't
hearing from God.

The prophesies were in may cases so detailed, that historians alleged that
the book of Daniel (for example) was written after the event, but they were
all shown to be wrong.

Then of course there's the anthropic principle.

So there's two verifiable evidences for the existance of God.

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:qfnXi.65114$c9.27528@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or

realistic

than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Can you provide proof for us of prophesies (whether true or false) that were
given by the tooth fairy or Santa?

Only the word of God in the old testament has verifiable prophesies

The prophesies were in may cases so detailed, that historians alleged that
the book of Daniel (for example) was written after the event, but they were
all shown to be wrong.

Then of course there's the anthropic principle.
So there's two verifiable evidences for the existance of God.

"Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:qfnXi.65114$c9.27528@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

There is NO objective verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY gods.
Lots of opinions but NO evidence! God beliefs are no more sound or
realistic than beliefs in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy

Evidence of gods;

There is NO objective verifiable evidence any gods have ever spoken to =

sane men. There is only the 'subjective opinions' of errant men.

There is NO objective verifiable evidence any gods have ever appeared to
any sane men. There is only the 'subjective opinions' of errant men.

Why does this all powerful god creator never communicate with us? Why d=

he never authenticate his very existence?

There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Heavens, Hells, Gods,
Spirits, Angels or Saints actually exist except in the imaginations of
man.

There is a wealth of objective verifiable material evidence that NO gods
actually exist.

Why does this all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
designer, create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floo=

Wars, Earth Quakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases and
serious body malfunctions? There are 12,000 known diseases that affect =

punish mankind indiscriminately. Why does he permit millions of both yo=

and old to starve to death or die of miserable diseases? Why punish
millions of INNOCENT CHILDREN in this horrible way?

Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent
children" to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully
developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born
idiots and others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth
and others pauper poor? Why does he permit over 2,000,000 innocent
children to die of starvation every year? Why are his human creations
designed to deteriorate into a miserable and devastating old age
regardless of their religious affiliation?

God supposedly created the world like it is, to punish man for Adam and
Eve's 'original sin'. Why does he also punish supposedly innocent child=

and animals with thousands of diseases, birth defects, starvation and to
be eaten by other animals?

Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks,
jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, wolves, poisonous snake=

stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this car=

and benevolent god create animals (including man) that need to painfully
kill and eat other animals to survive?

World War I claimed 9,000,000 lives of people of many religious faiths.

World II indiscriminately claimed over 20,000,000 lives of people of all
ages and religious faiths, plus a vast destruction of property and more
millions maimed for life.

The recent Asian Tsunami has claimed the lives of 200,000 men, women and
children of all religious persuasions. Over 100,000 of these were total=

INNOCENT children!

There were three major epidemics of the Bubonic Plaque - in the 6th, 14=

and 17th centuries. The death toll was over 137 million men, women and
totally innocent children.

The influenza of 1918-1919 killed at least 25 million men, women and
innocent children indiscriminately.

Diseases like malaria, AIDS, tuberculosis, etc. maim and kill millions
indiscriminately every year. More millions die of starvation and
malnutrition.

These indiscriminately afflicted the young and old, atheists and those =

all religious persuasions.

Meanwhile MAN, not god, has developed defenses and cures for hundreds of
serious diseases. Man has learned to create shelter, heat and cooling,
purify water, world wide electronic communications, power and
transportation systems including flying through the air.

Man has created a wonderful medical and drug system and improved housing
and food production. The result of MAN'S inventiveness has

DOUBLED the average life span. None of this was created by any gods.

Perhaps your loving and caring god is actually a cruel, heartless, mean
and torturing tyrant. If he treats us so cruelly during life, why do you
think he will let us enjoy peace and eternal happiness in his Heaven? A=

why does he keep all this a secret by preventing communication with our
dead parents, siblings and friends? (Or this god?)

There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs but NO
OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for the actual existence of ANY of these
gods. ALL god beliefs are based on the unsubstantiated 'opinions and
claims' of errant men.

If there is a god that created the Universe, he is obviously not an
all-caring and benevolent god. Nor is he an "Intelligent Designer". The
objective evidence is if there is a god creator, he has NO concern about
the welfare of the creatures on Earth.

The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposi=

that man created gods!

I challenge god believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence t=

their god actually exists except in their over active imaginations.

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There is a big difference between "over active imaginations" and the
presence of the Living God in the heart of believers

"What He has done for others, He could do for you; it is no secret what G=

can do"
Word from Rev. Thomas Dorsey

So many lives have been changed by the power of the Good News, which is t=

Resurrection power.
You say, " prove it" or "come up with some hard evidence." DON'T NEED TO
NOR CAN I :

revealed to the heart. Within my inner man( my spirit man) I know it to be
so. I know that I know that I know. This is that miracle of the re-birth.
Flesh gives birth to flesh (natural birth - understood and explained by
natural science)...spirit gives birth to spirit~~ cannot be understood by
science, therefore it requires no scientific proof or evidence to those w=

are born again from above. You must be born again, from above, to believe,
and understand ... you have to become like a little child. So let me
emphasize "become" ( with a child-like trust in; being teachable as a ch=

is) to begin to understand the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, otherw=

it is foolishness, much like it is to those perishing in their sins.

"You may ask me how I know my God is real;
you may doubt the things I say and doubt the way I feel;
but I know He's real today, He'll always be;
I can feel His hand in mine,
and that is good enough for me."
Words : Mossy Lister

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There is a big difference between "over active imaginations" and the
presence of the Living God in the heart of believers