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Religions > Atheism |
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"Ben Kaufman" |
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30 Aug 2007 05:11:33 PM |
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Does it get any sillier II |
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
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Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
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Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR2007082702048.html
Ben
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 05:15:53 PM |
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On Aug 30, 3:11 pm, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
It's approximately as silly as threatening Orlando, Florida with a
hurricane because they had a Gay Pride Day at one of the amusement
parks - which is what Pat Robertson did.
Truly, the silliness factor of serious theists never *ceases* to amaze
me.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 06:24:51 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5tu6@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR2007082702048.html
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 06:49:58 PM |
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On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 11:44:06 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Matt also says that non-consensual ritual infant mutilation is NOT
mutilation!
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
31 Aug 2007 03:35:29 PM |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:14:06 +0930, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> in <927fd3tdsril79566s4kcnkcurask4fiac@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Matt also says that non-consensual ritual infant mutilation is NOT
mutilation!
What a stupid and irrelevant comment. No, I never said that mutilation
is not mutilation. Try again.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 09:58:45 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier defending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious enough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
Ben
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
05 Sep 2007 02:40:44 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:58:45 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier defending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious enough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
No one knows the 'mind of God,' tis one of them 'mystery' things.
[rolls eyes]
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
13 Sep 2007 08:26:00 AM |
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On 5 Sep., 21:40, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:58:45 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrot=
e:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Is=
raeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jew=
s, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" h=
e said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, =
they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any =
wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's sp=
eech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR20=
0=2E..
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier de=
fending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious e=
nough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
No one knows the 'mind of God,' tis one of them 'mystery' things.
[rolls eyes]- Skjul tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
The rabbi in question thinks he does, except when he needs the above
excuse of course. Requiring consistency from religious doctrines is
clearly an evil idea promoted by Satan and his rational henchmen.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
18 Sep 2007 07:11:42 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:26:00 -0700, wrote:
On 5 Sep., 21:40, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:58:45 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:49:58 -0700, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier defending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious enough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
No one knows the 'mind of God,' tis one of them 'mystery' things.
[rolls eyes]
The rabbi in question thinks he does, except when he needs the above
excuse of course. Requiring consistency from religious doctrines is
clearly an evil idea promoted by Satan and his rational henchmen.
Satan never lied or killed anyone which must be why he's evil.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Sep 2007 10:15:01 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:40:44 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:58:45 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier defending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious enough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
No one knows the 'mind of God,' tis one of them 'mystery' things.
[rolls eyes]
The only thing that's NOT a mystery is how they can believe it.
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| User: "stoney" |
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11 Sep 2007 07:25:01 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:15:01 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:40:44 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:58:45 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
Even from a theist perspective, imagine God allows a Jewish soldier defending
against the annihilation of Israel to die because he was not religious enough,
but on the other hand, Hitler gets to survive a bomb in his meeting room.
No one knows the 'mind of God,' tis one of them 'mystery' things.
[rolls eyes]
The only thing that's NOT a mystery is how they can believe it.
Induced mindnumbing [so to speak] terror.
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| User: "Ghod" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 09:47:54 PM |
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skyeyes wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:24 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5...@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR200...
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
You are of a more serious mindset than I am. I see it as dreadful,
wrong, hurtful, *and* silly.
Brenda
I like you...very nicely put, very nicely indeed.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Does it get any sillier II |
30 Aug 2007 09:53:33 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:24:51 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:11:33 -0400, in alt.atheism , Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> in
<uvfed35hdk9g5r15rhrg5rjgrsd4uq5tu6@4ax.com> wrote:
"JERUSALEM -- An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews, sparking
outrage in Israel.
...
Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he said,
"when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah, they don't
pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it any wonder that
they're killed? It's no wonder."
...
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR2007082702048.html
I don't see how that is silly. Dreadful, wrong, and hurtful, yes, but
not silly.
http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/silly
3a: weak in intellect : foolish b: exhibiting or indicative of a lack of common
sense or sound judgment <a very silly mistake>
Ben
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