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"J Young" |
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21 Feb 2006 01:57:28 PM |
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Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex marriages and
NO same-sex adoptions. America has every right to set the moral standard by
which it wishes to live by.
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20060221/1a_lede21.art.htm
In 16 states, laws or ballot votes proposed
Efforts to ban gays and lesbians from adopting children are emerging across
the USA as a second front in the culture wars that began during the 2004
elections over same-sex marriage.
Steps to pass laws or secure November ballot initiatives are underway in at
least 16 states, adoption, gay rights and conservative groups say. Some -
such as Ohio, Georgia and Kentucky - approved constitutional amendments in
2004 banning gay marriage.
"Now that we've defined what marriage is, we need to take that further and
say children deserve to be in that relationship," says Greg Quinlan of
Ohio's Pro-Family Network, a conservative Christian group.
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 02:14:25 PM |
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*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
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| User: "Jim Higgins" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 03:47:05 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 08:14:20 PM |
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Jim Higgins wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin.</pre>
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<br>
<ul>
<li>The nature of the agreement that God made with Abraham was that
ten righteous
people would be enough to save both cities. So, if the angels had been
sent to determine the fate of the city, they should have engaged in a
systematic
search of the cities for righteous people. Did they? No.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Nowhere, in any of the accounts of the story, are the angels
referred to
as males. Therefore, it is pure speculation that the townsfolk wanted
to
rape men. For all that is known, they could have been about to rape
women,
or -- for those who hold that angels are neither male nor female --
beings
with no sex or gender at all. <br>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The judgment was to have been of both cities, yet the angels only
visited
one!</li>
</ul>
<br>
Would you like some other holes?<br>
<br>
How about a Chick Lot cartoon?<br>
<br>
Oh, OH! I know! We could get lexicographical and explore word meanings!
Wouldn't that be fun!?!<br>
<br>
(Why bother with noting the Bible verses that contradict your stance.
That wouldn't be sporting.)<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 06:40:33 PM |
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"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it says
that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the planet, put
them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says that he then
floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water subsided. Finally
this fellow redistributed all of the animals where they belong putting the
marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in Africa, the Polar Bears at the
Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South Pole, Bisons in North America, etc?
Yup, that book of yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days while
that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited him up.
Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world record for
being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
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| User: "Jim Higgins" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 06:55:07 PM |
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"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it says
that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the planet, put
them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says that he then
floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water subsided. Finally
this fellow redistributed all of the animals where they belong putting the
marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in Africa, the Polar Bears at the
Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South Pole, Bisons in North America, etc?
Yup, that book of yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days while
that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited him up.
Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world record for
being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a problem
for believers.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 08:14:54 PM |
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"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vndjmms9o7097@corp.supernews.com:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it
says that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the
planet, put them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says
that he then floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water
subsided. Finally this fellow redistributed all of the animals where
they belong putting the marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in
Africa, the Polar Bears at the Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South
Pole, Bisons in North America, etc? Yup, that book of yours is really
and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days
while that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited
him up. Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world
record for being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a
problem for believers.
And the fact is the bible is not factual. Not even close. It is your
belief in lies that is the problem. Take your homophobic trash elsewere.
pierce
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:30:29 PM |
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In <11vndjmms9o7097@corp.supernews.com>, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral. Should we stone
you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event. No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it
says that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the planet,
put them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says that he
then floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water subsided.
Finally this fellow redistributed all of the animals where they belong
putting the marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in Africa, the Polar
Bears at the Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South Pole, Bisons in North
America, etc? Yup, that book of yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days while
that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited him up.
Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world record for
being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a problem
for believers.
Well, if you want to live a theocratic paradise, try Iran...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Churches are closing...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M611110AC
Mardi Gras is rolling...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
Now, what was this about god's judgement?
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Anthony Lindemann" |
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22 Feb 2006 04:19:38 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:55:07 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it says
that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the planet, put
them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says that he then
floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water subsided. Finally
this fellow redistributed all of the animals where they belong putting the
marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in Africa, the Polar Bears at the
Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South Pole, Bisons in North America, etc?
Yup, that book of yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days while
that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited him up.
Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world record for
being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a problem
for believers.
What facts... you have no facts to stand on *****.
Anthony
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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22 Feb 2006 04:28:46 PM |
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In News aropv1p9pp8rsut0q0spt6ua25jo75s50f@4ax.com,, Anthony Lindemann at
anthony76@pdq.net, typed this:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:55:07 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it
wishes to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand,
lying is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself
exterminated every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their
'burbs for that exact sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book
it says that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the
planet, put them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it
says that he then floated with his boat for over 40 days until the
water subsided. Finally this fellow redistributed all of the
animals where they belong putting the marsupials in Australia, the
giraffes in Africa, the Polar Bears at the Noth Pole, the Pengins
at the South Pole, Bisons in North America, etc? Yup, that book of
yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days
while that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish
vomited him up. Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds
the world record for being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly
written ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a
problem for believers.
What facts... you have no facts to stand on *****.
Anthony
I guess he means the facts that he has no facts.... Or perhaps the facts
that he's delusional...
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
22 Feb 2006 04:49:37 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:19:38 -0600, Anthony Lindemann
<anthony76@pdq.net> wrote in message
<aropv1p9pp8rsut0q0spt6ua25jo75s50f@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:55:07 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9771BDFBB5D41mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact
sin.
Let me guess. You have video of this event.
No?
I see....you have it in a book.
Let me get this straight. You have it recorded in a book that God
destroyed a city because of acts of anal sex and in this same book it says
that a man collected all 3 million species of animal on the planet, put
them in a boat before a world wide flood came? Then it says that he then
floated with his boat for over 40 days until the water subsided. Finally
this fellow redistributed all of the animals where they belong putting the
marsupials in Australia, the giraffes in Africa, the Polar Bears at the
Noth Pole, the Pengins at the South Pole, Bisons in North America, etc?
Yup, that book of yours is really and truly factual.
Oh, that is just a story?
What about a fellow that was swallowed by a fish, lived for 3 days while
that fish swam in the ocean, then after 3 days the fish vomited him up.
Yup. That is really factual too. That guy holds the world record for
being able to hold his breath.
Oh that is just a story too?
Moses and the Egyptian slaves? Another story eh.
Adam and Eve? Another fictional story huh?
So where do the stories end and the facts start?
The answer is that the bible has zero credibility.
Face it, the bible is nothing but a bad collection of poorly written
ancient fiction.
pierce
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a problem
for believers.
What facts... you have no facts to stand on *****.
Anthony
The word "fact" has a different meaning for "believers." Their
"facts" are mutable, and can be made up as they go along. The concept
of proof is simply non-existent to them.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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21 Feb 2006 07:33:57 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> posting the following on Tue, 21 Feb 2006
19:55:07 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
Your lack of belief doesn't alter the facts. Your problem, not a problem
for believers.
The point is that there are very few facts in the Bible. The Exodus?
Never happened. We can read Egyptian history, you know, and there was
never an entire nation held as slaves. Sodom and Gommorah? Real
cities.. that both sat on an active fault line. Noah's Ark? Did not
happen.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 08:29:47 PM |
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In <11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex marriages
and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes to
live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying is
immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral. Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin.
Except that you don't have any evidence this ever happened.
By the way, Ezekiel 16:49 says:
"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters
had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not
help the poor and needy."
Near as I can tell, the *Bible says they were destroyed for being
Republicans...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Churches are closing...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M611110AC
Mardi Gras is rolling...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
Now, what was this about god's judgement?
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:58:37 PM |
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In article <11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>, Jim Higgins
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing
That's often the nature of fiction.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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21 Feb 2006 04:00:36 PM |
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Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Hint: Morality does not come from the Bible.
Hint: God isn't real.
Hint: The Bible advocates slavery.
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| User: "Lost Planet Airman" |
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21 Feb 2006 04:23:03 PM |
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Sgeo wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Hint: Morality does not come from the Bible.
Hint: God isn't real.
Hint: The Bible advocates slavery.
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
--
"Land of the free indeed. We've become a nation of ***** whipped
corporate whores."
- Rick 2003-11-19, 10:59 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
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| User: "655321" |
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21 Feb 2006 05:12:56 PM |
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Lost Planet Airman wrote:
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
Unscientific pop-psychology noted.
655321
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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21 Feb 2006 04:45:54 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:23:03 -0600, Lost Planet Airman
<knightrd@comcast.net> wrote in message
<S6OdnS1fP8xaD2benZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Sgeo wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Hint: Morality does not come from the Bible.
Hint: God isn't real.
Hint: The Bible advocates slavery.
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
This is a silly argument. One could use your *exact* argument to say
that opposite sex parents also short changes them in a different way.
It's just that you happen to approve of ignorance when it comes to
same-sex relationships.
o Same-sex couples proved better at managing disagreements and anger
than did comparable heterosexual married couples. Research suggests
that parental conflict may be one of the most significant sources of
difficulty for children, Stacey said.
http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/6908.html
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| User: "Lost Planet Airman" |
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22 Feb 2006 04:36:36 PM |
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Boy Toy wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:23:03 -0600, Lost Planet Airman
<knightrd@comcast.net> wrote in message
<S6OdnS1fP8xaD2benZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Sgeo wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Hint: Morality does not come from the Bible.
Hint: God isn't real.
Hint: The Bible advocates slavery.
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
This is a silly argument. One could use your *exact* argument to say
that opposite sex parents also short changes them in a different way.
It's just that you happen to approve of ignorance when it comes to
same-sex relationships.
o Same-sex couples proved better at managing disagreements and anger
than did comparable heterosexual married couples. Research suggests
that parental conflict may be one of the most significant sources of
difficulty for children, Stacey said.
This may be true, and if Homsexuality was a product of psychology, this
would tend toward making them homosexual. If it is by birth however, as
claimed, then this would provide no use to the child, as in theory, they
will be with someone of the opposite sex, and thusly would only have
experience problem solving with the same sex.
http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/6908.html
--
"Land of the free indeed. We've become a nation of ***** whipped
corporate whores."
- Rick 2003-11-19, 10:59 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
22 Feb 2006 08:13:26 PM |
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In article <juSdnR1GcvXoemHe4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
Lost Planet Airman <knightrd@comcast.net> wrote:
Boy Toy wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:23:03 -0600, Lost Planet Airman
<knightrd@comcast.net> wrote in message
<S6OdnS1fP8xaD2benZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Sgeo wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Hint: Morality does not come from the Bible.
Hint: God isn't real.
Hint: The Bible advocates slavery.
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
This is a silly argument. One could use your *exact* argument to say
that opposite sex parents also short changes them in a different way.
It's just that you happen to approve of ignorance when it comes to
same-sex relationships.
o Same-sex couples proved better at managing disagreements and anger
than did comparable heterosexual married couples. Research suggests
that parental conflict may be one of the most significant sources of
difficulty for children, Stacey said.
This may be true, and if Homsexuality was a product of psychology, this
would tend toward making them homosexual. If it is by birth however, as
claimed, then this would provide no use to the child, as in theory, they
will be with someone of the opposite sex, and thusly would only have
experience problem solving with the same sex.
More unscientific gobbledygook based bigoted guesswork.
655321
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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21 Feb 2006 04:47:50 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Lost Planet Airman
<knightrd@comcast.net> posting the following on Tue, 21 Feb 2006
16:23:03 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Hint, Children learn a great deal about relationships between men and
women, and respect for each other, etc... in Man-Woman relationships.
Two parents of the same sex short-changes them.
Sorry, but over 200 studies dating back to the early eighties refutes
that. Seems that seeing any stable adult relationship provides a good
influence on children.
http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "newsguy" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:50:10 PM |
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Jim Higgins wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin.
Maybe you overlooked the fact that Sodom and Gomorrah
was destroyed for the worship of Baal, Jer 23:13-14, there
was not even 10 who worshiped God, Gen 18:32 and
inhospitality, Eze 16:49-50. None of which had anything
to do with homosexuality.
Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
It is a physical impossibility that the Bible says one word
about homosexuality or mentions an act of homosexuality,
because they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
at the time the bible was written.
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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21 Feb 2006 04:04:19 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a
divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10,
Ezk.16:40, Jn.8:3).
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| User: "Jim Higgins" |
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21 Feb 2006 06:52:56 PM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:l93nv1l7klm0a6t6424u9h9pb0nk6mg3s6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a
divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10,
Ezk.16:40, Jn.8:3).
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 09:18:24 PM |
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"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11vndjkcjsqt194@corp.supernews.com...
[snip]
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
Nah nah. My imaginary diety disagrees with your imaginary diety.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:31:29 PM |
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In <11vndjkcjsqt194@corp.supernews.com>, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:l93nv1l7klm0a6t6424u9h9pb0nk6mg3s6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral. Should we stone
you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin.
Yet you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous
sentence. While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone
homosexuals we do have warrant for avoiding them for the plague that
they are and noting what God has previously pronounced judgment on
homosexuality in *both* testaments. In this one He has given them enough
rope that they have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced
woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the adulterer
and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10, Ezk.16:40,
Jn.8:3).
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
For neglecting the poor and needy...
(At least according to that bible thing... heard of it?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Churches are closing...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M611110AC
Mardi Gras is rolling...
http://www.nola.com/mardigras/
Now, what was this about god's judgement?
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Sgeo" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 07:18:14 PM |
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Jim Higgins wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:l93nv1l7klm0a6t6424u9h9pb0nk6mg3s6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous
sentence. While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals
we do have warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and
noting what God has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in
*both* testaments. In this one He has given them enough rope that they
have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a
divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10,
Ezk.16:40, Jn.8:3).
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
God also tells us the proper way to treat slaves.
God also tells us to kill family members who try to make you worship "false"
gods.
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| User: "newsguy" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
21 Feb 2006 08:55:28 PM |
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Jim Higgins wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:l93nv1l7klm0a6t6424u9h9pb0nk6mg3s6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a
divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10,
Ezk.16:40, Jn.8:3).
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the sin was idolatry, not homosexuality.
It is a physical impossibility that the Bible says one word
about homosexuality or mentions an act of homosexuality,
because they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
at the time the bible was written.
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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| User: "Lost Planet Airman" |
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
22 Feb 2006 04:43:31 PM |
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newsguy wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:l93nv1l7klm0a6t6424u9h9pb0nk6mg3s6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0500, "Jim Higgins"
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<11vn2iufb4vkk59@corp.supernews.com>
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140552865.731819.121320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
*Homos will eventually get it through their heads; NO same-sex
marriages and
*NO same-sex adoptions.
Why so? Based on what?
*America has every right to set the moral standard by which it wishes
to live by.
Homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself. On the other hand, lying
is immoral, you're a liar, therefore you're immoral.
Should we stone you?
Amazing how you simply overlook the fact that God Himself exterminated
every
living thing in Sodom, Gomorrah and their 'burbs for that exact sin. Yet
you say homosexuality has nothing immoral in itself-see previous sentence.
While we have no warrant in this Testament to stone homosexuals we do have
warrant for avoiding them for the plague that they are and noting what God
has previously pronounced judgment on homosexuality in *both* testaments.
In this one He has given them enough rope that they have hung themselves.
Then you had better outlaw divorce too. Or do we get to cherry pick?
But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is
unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a
divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death" (Lev.20:10,
Ezk.16:40, Jn.8:3).
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the sin was idolatry, not homosexuality.
It is a physical impossibility that the Bible says one word
about homosexuality or mentions an act of homosexuality,
because they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
at the time the bible was written.
Incorrect. Perhaps you should read the Bible, instead of following the
obviously biased Homesexual News Network. Check any Bible except the
New Revised (Gay) Standard Edition
"Leviticus 18:22,23; 20:13,15,16 - Under the Old Testament, a man lying
with another man (or with an animal) was an abomination, and they were
both to be put to death.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11; 1 Timothy 1:9-11 - "Abusing oneself with mankind"
is listed along with other sins that are "contrary to the gospel" and
cause people not to inherit the kingdom of God (note also "effeminate").
This expression definitely refers to homosexuality, and the phrase is so
translated in *virtually all* modern translations." emphasis mine
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
--
"Land of the free indeed. We've become a nation of ***** whipped
corporate whores."
- Rick 2003-11-19, 10:59 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
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23 Feb 2006 12:02:47 AM |
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Lost Planet Airman wrote:
newsguy wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the sin was idolatry, not homosexuality.
It is a physical impossibility that the Bible says one word
about homosexuality or mentions an act of homosexuality,
because they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
at the time the bible was written.
Incorrect. Perhaps you should read the Bible, instead of following the
obviously biased Homesexual News Network. Check any Bible except the
New Revised (Gay) Standard Edition
Look, you can imagine whatever cherished illusion you wish,
but this will not change the facts of history and careful research
on this subject. And the site is History News Network.
"Leviticus 18:22,23; 20:13,15,16 - Under the Old Testament, a man lying
with another man (or with an animal) was an abomination, and they were
both to be put to death.
You might want to explain why Molech is before these verses?
Why in your imaginings is Molech even in Lev 18, a chapter
on sexual proscriptions? It is because that is the context
of these verses. Men had sex with Chemarim priest to give
seed to Baal-Molech. The context is Lev 18:21-24,
Lev 20:2-5,13-16 idolatry to the false fertility god Baal-Molech.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11; 1 Timothy 1:9-11 - "Abusing oneself with mankind"
is listed along with other sins that are "contrary to the gospel" and
cause people not to inherit the kingdom of God (note also "effeminate").
This expression definitely refers to homosexuality, and the phrase is so
translated in *virtually all* modern translations." emphasis mine
And there is the point, all modern "for-profit" translations throw
in the word homosexual or imply this to make money off
those like you. No scholar before the invention of the concept
of homosexuality in the late 19th century said one word
about these verses being about homosexuality. None.
The translation is:
...neither pimps, ... nor temple prostitutes, nor those that lie
with temple prostitutes, (shall inherit the kingdom of God. )
And the context is obvious when you read the rest of the
chapter. Temple prostitution, which Paul knew living in
Corinth a notorious city of temple prostitution.
If fornication is sex out of wedlock how can a "wife" have
fornication? Mat 5:32
Noted your fear of reading the below sites. On US case law.
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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| Title: Re: Drives to ban gay adoption heat up |
23 Feb 2006 03:38:37 AM |
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"newsguy" <nuwsguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140674567.217532.217440@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Lost Planet Airman wrote:
newsguy wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
Sin is sin and there is absolute right and wrong. God declared the
punishment for Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the sin was idolatry, not homosexuality.
It is a physical impossibility that the Bible says one word
about homosexuality or mentions an act of homosexuality,
because they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
at the time the bible was written.
Incorrect. Perhaps you should read the Bible, instead of following the
obviously biased Homesexual News Network. Check any Bible except the
New Revised (Gay) Standard Edition
Look, you can imagine whatever cherished illusion you wish,
but this will not change the facts of history and careful research
on this subject. And the site is History News Network.
"Leviticus 18:22,23; 20:13,15,16 - Under the Old Testament, a man lying
with another man (or with an animal) was an abomination, and they were
both to be put to death.
You might want to explain why Molech is before these verses?
Why in your imaginings is Molech even in Lev 18, a chapter
on sexual proscriptions? It is because that is the context
of these verses. Men had sex with Chemarim priest to give
seed to Baal-Molech. The context is Lev 18:21-24,
Lev 20:2-5,13-16 idolatry to the false fertility god Baal-Molech.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11; 1 Timothy 1:9-11 - "Abusing oneself with mankind"
is listed along with other sins that are "contrary to the gospel" and
cause people not to inherit the kingdom of God (note also "effeminate").
This expression definitely refers to homosexuality, and the phrase is so
translated in *virtually all* modern translations." emphasis mine
And there is the point, all modern "for-profit" translations throw
in the word homosexual or imply this to make money off
those like you. No scholar before the invention of the concept
of homosexuality in the late 19th century said one word
about these verses being about homosexuality. None.
The translation is:
..neither pimps, ... nor temple prostitutes, nor those that lie
with temple prostitutes, (shall inherit the kingdom of God. )
And the context is obvious when you read the rest of the
chapter. Temple prostitution, which Paul knew living in
Corinth a notorious city of temple prostitution.
If fornication is sex out of wedlock how can a "wife" have
fornication? Mat 5:32
Noted your fear of reading the below sites. On US case law.
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
You have chosen to be flagrantly wrong-you have a right to do so. Your head
on the block, not mine.
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