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"Steve O" |
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19 Nov 2004 06:31:32 AM |
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Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear, if God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
....Duke???????
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22 Nov 2004 05:48:51 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:43:07 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
He never promised us a one way street. If we turn from him, he lets us go. Use your last
choice wisely.
Is god all forgiving? Yes or no?
I told you already - for unrepentant sin, no.
duke
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
For what?
Ho do you know god exists?
Why do you care. You already said you don't believe what I say.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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22 Nov 2004 07:01:25 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:43:07 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
He never promised us a one way street. If we turn from him, he
lets us go. Use your last choice wisely.
Is god all forgiving? Yes or no?
I told you already - for unrepentant sin, no.
Another thoughtless saying by Earl. The nuns probably liked him.
If there was a god and a life after death and if Earl's idea of hell had any
validity, something that the angels themselves show to be false, then the
soul would repent at the moment of death and be forgiven.
Maybe in a few hundred years if religion still exists this concept will
prevail, perhaps with a temporary time in "hell". The RCC even has a passage
to justify this.
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| User: "duke" |
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24 Nov 2004 05:12:25 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:01:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I told you already - for unrepentant sin, no.
Another thoughtless saying by Earl. The nuns probably liked him.
Thoughtless? I don't have to think about it, mikey. God said it was that way.
If there was a god and a life after death and if Earl's idea of hell had any
validity, something that the angels themselves show to be false, then the
soul would repent at the moment of death and be forgiven.
Wow. The angels said there is no hell and carry more weight than God. You must be
talking to your cousin satan about that one, mikey.
Maybe in a few hundred years if religion still exists this concept will
prevail, perhaps with a temporary time in "hell". The RCC even has a passage
to justify this.
You wish it said otherwise but it doesn't, does it mikey?
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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24 Nov 2004 01:04:21 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:01:25 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I told you already - for unrepentant sin, no.
Another thoughtless saying by Earl. The nuns probably liked him.
Thoughtless? I don't have to think about it, mikey. God said it was
that way.
No you don't have to think about it and it is evident that you don't.
If there was a god and a life after death and if Earl's idea of hell
had any validity, something that the angels themselves show to be
false, then the soul would repent at the moment of death and be
forgiven.
Wow. The angels said there is no hell and carry more weight than
God. You must be talking to your cousin satan about that one, mikey.
As usual anything outside what Earl learned by rote does not register with
him.
How he got "The angels said ther is no hell" out of what I wrote is
something only he understands.
Maybe in a few hundred years if religion still exists this concept
will prevail, perhaps with a temporary time in "hell". The RCC even
has a passage to justify this.
You wish it said otherwise but it doesn't, does it mikey?
You admit above you don't think about it. Others do and the concept of hell
you were taught as a child is different from the one you express now.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 Nov 2004 01:31:38 PM |
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In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear, if God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
-- cary
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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19 Nov 2004 02:22:11 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:cnlhmq$lie$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will
stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear, if
God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 Nov 2004 02:43:23 PM |
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In article <TBsnd.32$5v1.0@trnddc06> "Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com> wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will
stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear, if
God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
Or, in this particular case, "clever boy".
A common misapprehension, and I wouldn't mind at all, except that
the phrase "clever girl" has been forever fixed in my mind
as what the Great White Hunter said right before that
Velociraptoress ate his lunch, with him still around it.
-- cary
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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19 Nov 2004 06:53:24 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <TBsnd.32$5v1.0@trnddc06> "Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>
writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com>
wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will
stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not
mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear,
if
God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
Or, in this particular case, "clever boy".
A common misapprehension, and I wouldn't mind at all, except that
the phrase "clever girl" has been forever fixed in my mind
as what the Great White Hunter said right before that
Velociraptoress ate his lunch, with him still around it.
Actually, that's precisely what I thought of when I typed it. Sorry about
the involuntary gender-swap!
Raptor514
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 Nov 2004 07:01:30 PM |
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In article <8Awnd.580$pr1.460@trnddc07> "Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <TBsnd.32$5v1.0@trnddc06> "Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>
writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com>
wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too will
stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral, not
mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would appear,
if
God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
Or, in this particular case, "clever boy".
A common misapprehension, and I wouldn't mind at all, except that
the phrase "clever girl" has been forever fixed in my mind
as what the Great White Hunter said right before that
Velociraptoress ate his lunch, with him still around it.
Actually, that's precisely what I thought of when I typed it. Sorry about
the involuntary gender-swap!
Heh. I think I've noticed an odd general trend: the people who tend to
agree with me, or at least laugh (in a GOOD way, mind you... or so
they claim), on average seem to think this Cary is a "he". The ones
I bash mostly seem to assume I'm a "she" (and often attempt the "talk-down-
to-the-uppity-girl gambit with me)
There's some kind of insight in there somewhere, but I'd rather not think
about it...
-- cary
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19 Nov 2004 11:04:35 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <8Awnd.580$pr1.460@trnddc07> "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <TBsnd.32$5v1.0@trnddc06> "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>
writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <1vgsp0p2ji00cgth2rfbb44hpqkmp53mpt@4ax.com> Les
Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:31:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stevobo@aol.com>
wrote:
Read my lips, ms libby, one moment after you die, you too
will
stand
before God to answer
for what you did while in the flesh.
You don't want to believe me - fine. It's your funeral,
not
mine.
duke
*****
Duke...Is God all forgiving?
If he is, I'll be right behind you at the Pearly Gates.
And we'll both get in, right?
No answer, Duke???
Is God an all forgiving God or not?
Difficult conundrum isn't it?
While you reckon I'll be going straight to hell, it would
appear,
if
God is
all forgiving, that I'll be just as forgiven as you expect to
be.
God loves all sinners, Duke.
Perhaps he even loves you more than me?
Doesn't that ***** you off a little?
Still no answer, Duke?
...Duke???????
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'. Seems I am not
choosen. How do I apply to be chosen in order to get this
evidence?
Maybe we should put them all together in a big list and append
it to each of his posts?
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
Or, in this particular case, "clever boy".
A common misapprehension, and I wouldn't mind at all, except that
the phrase "clever girl" has been forever fixed in my mind
as what the Great White Hunter said right before that
Velociraptoress ate his lunch, with him still around it.
Actually, that's precisely what I thought of when I typed it. Sorry
about
the involuntary gender-swap!
Heh. I think I've noticed an odd general trend: the people who tend to
agree with me, or at least laugh (in a GOOD way, mind you... or so
they claim), on average seem to think this Cary is a "he". The ones
I bash mostly seem to assume I'm a "she" (and often attempt the
"talk-down-
to-the-uppity-girl gambit with me)
There's some kind of insight in there somewhere, but I'd rather not think
about it...
Well, I once dated a very, very pretty girl named "Carey" so that's all it
was in my case.
I think the insight is that many people still think of females as inferior
though I hope I'm wrong about that.
Raptor514
-- cary
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20 Nov 2004 05:40:55 PM |
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In article <DfAnd.113$TG2.67@trnddc01> "Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <8Awnd.580$pr1.460@trnddc07> "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <TBsnd.32$5v1.0@trnddc06> "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>
writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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{...}
A Duke FUQ?
Oh my, you clever girl. :-)
Or, in this particular case, "clever boy".
A common misapprehension, and I wouldn't mind at all, except that
the phrase "clever girl" has been forever fixed in my mind
as what the Great White Hunter said right before that
Velociraptoress ate his lunch, with him still around it.
Actually, that's precisely what I thought of when I typed it. Sorry
about
the involuntary gender-swap!
Heh. I think I've noticed an odd general trend: the people who tend to
agree with me, or at least laugh (in a GOOD way, mind you... or so
they claim), on average seem to think this Cary is a "he". The ones
I bash mostly seem to assume I'm a "she" (and often attempt the
"talk-down-
to-the-uppity-girl gambit with me)
There's some kind of insight in there somewhere, but I'd rather not think
about it...
Well, I once dated a very, very pretty girl named "Carey" so that's all it
was in my case.
I think the insight is that many people still think of females as inferior
though I hope I'm wrong about that.
Probably right, though: I seen to get called "Honey" a lot by whatever bigot
I'm currently macerating.
-- cary
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21 Nov 2004 12:31:51 PM |
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<shears of brevity>
I think the insight is that many people still think of females as
inferior
though I hope I'm wrong about that.
Probably right, though: I seen to get called "Honey" a lot by whatever
bigot
I'm currently macerating.
Lots of people have an oddly insulting way of being 'polite,' eh?
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Nov 2004 04:13:51 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:22:45 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'.
I haven't? I've already posted it over a dozen times on this ng.
Oh, well, what's one more time.
*****
Evidence of God (Rev1)- duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
One could hypothesize an astronomical event such as a prior universe
that collapsed in on itself and has now exploded outward to form our new
present universe. If this did happen, it would have happened again
and again for the same reason as the latest occurrence, thereby
suggesting that the universe always was, is, and always will be. Yet
another equal suggestion is that the universe was birthed out of
another universe, or another dimension.
The human mind cannot cope with the idea that all things lack a
beginning, and clearly neither matter nor energy on their own, the
basic building blocks of the universe, could either exist in and of
itself, or in and of its own intelligence.
The profession by believers is that our universe is a creation of
almighty God who is truly acknowledged as "always was, is, and always
will be". No alternative is available.
2. The big bang - first there was nothing - no time, no mass, no energy, no "outer space"
- then an infinitely small point of infinitely dense mass appeared which was not there
before, and then it exploded outward to form our universe, including "time" and all "outer
space" as we know it.
The universe is expanding, but into what? Is there an edge to the universe, and if there
is, what is it expanding into?
3. Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a
"design with purpose". It consists of a central computer (brain)
supported by a fluid transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump
(heart), an energy conversion system (stomach and intestines), a waste
disposal system, an oxygen transfer system (lungs) that is required to
transfer necessary oxygen to the brain and to the body parts,
maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and a body salinity
(same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer of
minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the
body.
4. The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50%
in the male and 50% in the female. We only mix the chemicals. Of special interest is the
fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary shape in mammals. These two
facts are especially conducive to support planned design.
5. ARC101: In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of
life forms as we move from the least to the greatest:
The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the
plant's existence because it fully lacks the faculties to do so. Nor
does the plant acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the
inanimate object.
One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or
relate to, the cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do
so. However, the cow does have a limited reverse recognition of the
plant because it is a noted food source for the cow, but the plant
does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is.
One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or
relate to, the human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways,
because it lacks the faculties to do so. Man, on the other hand, has
a full range of knowledge and a clear relationship directed backward
to the cow including leading the cow by the nose, but the cow has
minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees the man,
but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.
Notice how one level can relate backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite higher level only in a very rudimentary fashion. Yet each
higher level not only exists but exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.
What, then, regarding the existence of a level higher than the human?
As is seen at each level, the inability, or limited ability, to relate
to the level above it does not in any way negate its very existence.
We knowingly lack sufficient faculties to respond to, or relate to, a
higher level above man. Does this negate the existence of such a
level? Why should we be able to relate upwards when lower life can't.
By all logic, there should be at least one level above human.
As humans (mankind), we possess tremendous advanced faculties over
those of the cow - intelligence, reason, logic, love, empathy,
sympathy, knowing we suffer and why, etc. And we can use these
faculties to study, learn, reason, dream, and subjectively conclude
that, logically speaking, some level should exist higher than man.
As before, we too are limited in our ability to relate to that higher
level, but in no way does this negate its existence.
If there is no greater known than man, then man would be the pinnacle
of life, the top - evidenced by the mess we make of the world - war,
disease, pestilence, hatred, man's inhumanity to man, etc.
Man as the ultimate, the pinnacle, the top, is illogical.
How many levels are there above us? We don't know - we can't even
prove so much as one level. The top level, by all logic, must be
*perfection*. Is it reasonable to think the move from man to the top
is made in one step? That is not very imaginative.
So let's think in term of two steps - one greater than man and one
lesser than a supreme being. Strangely enough, the "angel" fits the
position exactly, more than man but less than perfection.
Can we prove it - of course not. But we can use our advanced
capacities to dream, to aspire, to reach out for that possible next
step, from which we can profess to truly be the creation of one more
perfect than us.
*****
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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19 Nov 2004 06:48:04 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:22:45 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'.
I haven't? I've already posted it over a dozen times on this ng.
Oh, well, what's one more time.
{ snip ]
Previously refuted.
http://tinyurl.com/57mu6
Regards,
Josef
Faith is when you believe something that nobody in his right mind would
believe.
-- Archie Bunker
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
20 Nov 2004 06:57:02 AM |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:48:04 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:22:45 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Hey, join the queue I am still waiting to responces to my post.
I pleaded I asked him nicely but he won't even give me any of
this evidence he claims of of his concept 'god'.
I haven't? I've already posted it over a dozen times on this ng.
Oh, well, what's one more time.
{ snip ]
Previously refuted.
Your pipe dream. No atheist yet has been able to challenge my words.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
20 Nov 2004 08:10:25 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
....
Previously refuted.
Your pipe dream. No atheist yet has been able to challenge my words.
Keep dreamin', Doooooooooooooooookie.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Nov 2004 07:49:12 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:10:25 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
Previously refuted.
Your pipe dream. No atheist yet has been able to challenge my words.
Keep dreamin', Doooooooooooooooookie.
I do so every night.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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21 Nov 2004 07:57:53 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:10:25 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
Previously refuted.
Your pipe dream. No atheist yet has been able to challenge my words.
Keep dreamin', Doooooooooooooooookie.
I do so every night.
Let me know when you are ready to wake up and smell the coffee.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Nov 2004 05:30:20 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:57:53 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:10:25 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
Previously refuted.
Your pipe dream. No atheist yet has been able to challenge my words.
Keep dreamin', Doooooooooooooooookie.
I do so every night.
Let me know when you are ready to wake up and smell the coffee.
I believe in God. I suggest you wake up.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
21 Nov 2004 06:00:25 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:57:53 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
....
Keep dreamin', Doooooooooooooooookie.
I do so every night.
Let me know when you are ready to wake up and smell the coffee.
I believe in God. I suggest you wake up.
I have done so. That's why I am an atheist.
Pleasant dreams, Doooooooooooooookie.
Regards,
Josef
One night I prayed to know the truth. The next morning I found I was an
atheist.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Nov 2004 05:49:31 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:00:25 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
I believe in God. I suggest you wake up.
I have done so. That's why I am an atheist.
Pleasant dreams, Doooooooooooooookie.
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
23 Nov 2004 06:05:38 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:00:25 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
I believe in God. I suggest you wake up.
I have done so. That's why I am an atheist.
Pleasant dreams, Doooooooooooooookie.
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
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| User: "duke" |
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25 Nov 2004 05:52:09 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
no almighty God.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
25 Nov 2004 05:45:30 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, duke poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
no almighty God.
As I noted on a previous occasion, you have never met a fallacy that you
didn't like.
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
25 Nov 2004 12:40:14 PM |
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In article <7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes
into play if there is no almighty God.
Hey, one doesn't have to believe to "win," as you said, so Pascal's
Wager, as lame as it is, doesn't even apply... as you said.
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
‹ Quentin Crisp
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| User: "Donalbain" |
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25 Nov 2004 09:19:50 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
no almighty God.
Or:
You: win(if there is a God as you believe)/los(if there is any other
sort of god who gets annoyed at you picking the wrong team)/no win(if
there is no after life)
me: win(if there is a deity, but he hid himself and rewards people who
DONT believe in him because he made it so there is no evidence and he
likes people who dont fall for cons)/no win(if there is no
afterlife)/lose(if there is a deity and he is annoyed at not being
worshipped)
Odds look much the same to me.
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
25 Nov 2004 12:42:36 PM |
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In article <983b42a3.0411250719.7a3c130a@posting.google.com>, Donalbain
<Donalbain@gmail.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into
play if there is
no almighty God.
Or:
You: win(if there is a God as you believe)/los(if there is any other
sort of god who gets annoyed at you picking the wrong team)/no win(if
there is no after life)
me: win(if there is a deity, but he hid himself and rewards people who
DONT believe in him because he made it so there is no evidence and he
likes people who dont fall for cons)/no win(if there is no
afterlife)/lose(if there is a deity and he is annoyed at not being
worshipped)
Odds look much the same to me.
You left one out: Win (for not having expended precious human resources
bowing and scraping in the hopes of receiving favor from the deity
whose wishes are deliberately vague/hidden and self-contradictory)
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
‹ Quentin Crisp
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
25 Nov 2004 05:37:05 PM |
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GlennGlenn wrote:
In article <983b42a3.0411250719.7a3c130a@posting.google.com>,
Donalbain <Donalbain@gmail.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes
into play if there is
no almighty God.
Or:
You: win(if there is a God as you believe)/los(if there is any other
sort of god who gets annoyed at you picking the wrong team)/no win(if
there is no after life)
me: win(if there is a deity, but he hid himself and rewards people
who DONT believe in him because he made it so there is no evidence
and he likes people who dont fall for cons)/no win(if there is no
afterlife)/lose(if there is a deity and he is annoyed at not being
worshipped)
Odds look much the same to me.
You left one out: Win (for not having expended precious human
resources bowing and scraping in the hopes of receiving favor from
the deity whose wishes are deliberately vague/hidden and
self-contradictory)
He always leaves out a lot.
He might have picked the wrong god(s).
What he says and what he prectices are so different that he hasn't much of a
chance if it is true.
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Nov 2004 07:45:31 AM |
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On 25 Nov 2004 07:19:50 -0800, (Donalbain) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
no almighty God.
Or:
You: win(if there is a God as you believe)/los(if there is any other
sort of god who gets annoyed at you picking the wrong team)/no win(if
there is no after life)
me: win(if there is a deity, but he hid himself and rewards people who
DONT believe in him because he made it so there is no evidence and he
likes people who dont fall for cons)/no win(if there is no
afterlife)/lose(if there is a deity and he is annoyed at not being
worshipped)
Odds look much the same to me.
Good luck on that one.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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| Title: Re: Duke???...Where are yoooouuu???? |
26 Nov 2004 10:25:31 AM |
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In article <8rceq09fhoks3vs2bgh5abvv976mhr0up5@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 07:19:50 -0800, (Donalbain) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<7phbq0ph2ubj9fdnanhij3mjv2ehdu2aaa@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:05:38 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
Ok, enjoy your eternal life.
Enjoy your mythology, Doooooooooooooooookie. It's all you've got.
Pathetic, but true.
I think it's wonderful.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. atheist: lose/no win. No win comes into
play if there is
no almighty God.
Or:
You: win(if there is a God as you believe)/los(if there is any other
sort of god who gets annoyed at you picking the wrong team)/no win(if
there is no after life)
me: win(if there is a deity, but he hid himself and rewards people who
DONT believe in him because he made it so there is no evidence and he
likes people who dont fall for cons)/no win(if there is no
afterlife)/lose(if there is a deity and he is annoyed at not being
worshipped)
Odds look much the same to me.
Good luck on that one.
You must agree that the odds are actually in favor of the nonbeliever,
considering the vast number of jealous deities out there being alleged.
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
‹ Quentin Crisp
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